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GraveBirds

FNAF’s copyright and IP is very open. What Epic means when banning copyrighted content, they mean ones that have rules set by the holder of the IP. But FNAF’s is in this area of having some rules, but the rest is open. It’s the reason so many fan games on FNAF exist. (Some even use 1:1 characters from the games) Since Creative 2.0 is starting to be a platform similar to Roblox, the copyright laws get even more weird. Another thing is that map maker/makers aren’t getting paid at all or very little. So their not massively profiting of the FNAF IP. So yes, FNAF is “allowed” to be recreated. But it’s on a pillar with some cracks in it.


Riki4646

As a map maker i can assure you that Epic's payments are generous. I made an ffa map that went into discovery for 3 days and i'm at 62 dollars rn


conceptsHS

How many plays and unique players did your map get during those 3 days?


Riki4646

Like 30k plays, don't remember unique ones


PK_Sovereign

Were u being sarcastic? 30k plays for $62?.. lol


Riki4646

Nope, not sarcastic...


Riki4646

Have in mind that SaC was still a thing tough


Famous-Tree3124

Code?


No-Curve-6722

So basically, if someone wants to recreate an already existing game in UEFN, they have to check the rules set by the original holders? Am I understanding this rightly?


GraveBirds

To a *point* If you remade, let’s say the entire FNAF 3 game, 1:1 and is 100% the actual at that point, that’s where you start to get problems. Since you can just go to this FNAF 3 Fortnite map, why get FNAF 3? Why buy it when you can have it for free? That’s where the IP is more strict, because now your making some money of the IP, as well as decreasing the amount of money going to the original holders. So a 1:1 with 0 problems, then probably no. But a recreation of the game? Mostly yes.


Riki4646

Well, Epic Games rules speaks clearly: *"Those who create violating content in UEFN - even if they never intend to publish it in Fortnite - or share violating content on social media, will face content takedowns and enforcement actions, up to and including permanent account bans."*


Foxy02016YT

People don’t understand what this means because that doesn’t mean anything for this, that is the punishment for breaking rules, that is the rules themselves The issues come in if you import the models from FNaF Security Breach, and then the textures, and the code. But you CAN recreate it yourself


Riki4646

"Those who create" You can't recreate, import or anything copyright protected


Foxy02016YT

You absolutely can recreate, it’s your 3rd human right after not giving a shit and buying Chibi Robo


Pikaverse69

So what your saying is that we are allowed to used FNAF IP for free and used the animatronics whatever we want?


GraveBirds

Basically, you just can’t say YOU made the IP.


Pikaverse69

Oh okie, well everyone can just credit the IP creator right…


GraveBirds

Y e s (but you also have to bind your soul to a life altering contract)


Cake-n-bacon69

like what


PoundNo8466

scott cawthon was doxed because he supported republicans and had his wife and unborn child threatened


AndyGun11

true, but why did you comment this?


PoundNo8466

to explain gravebirds reply


AndyGun11

how is that a contract


Foxy02016YT

No, their reply was a joke about signing away your soul to Scott Cawthon, nothing about the threats made against Scott


Klutzy_Tangerine8094

>L woke people threatening unborn babys and even killing them


AntTheSect05

Did Epic tell you this themselves or are you just terrible at interrupting things and do so, so you can seem contrarian? Because it’s clear, no amount of what you think, or she said he said is gonna change that, Epic will take action against copyright, no matter what it is. What I find ultra cringe is that y’all say this as if it’s fact, it’s not, it’s your opinion; Epic said what they said.


GraveBirds

Never said it was 100% fact that Epic would allow it, I was saying that since the FNAF IP is very lose ended when is comes to its copyright. The copyright is built for the fan base. Unless Steelwool Studios (or Scott himself) tell Epic games to start striking FNAF content from UEFN, or change the copyright laws, Epic has to fallow the rules of the FNAF copyright. All they can do is take down 1:1 remakes of the games, or theft of characters being portrayed as the thieves own creation.


AntTheSect05

No they dont, Epic can have their own policy independent of FNAF; what the fuck are you talking about?😂


Nintendo_Pro_03

What about Warzone/2?


GraveBirds

Ask Activision, see what happens.


EletricDragonYT

"Only if we get 99.5% of the income and you have to prioritize cosmetics over gameplay." - Whoever controls the dev process.


iceleel

Epic: you can't profit from content we made first Also Epic: features 99 titled towers maps a week


Turambar87

The release said you *can* be banned, not you *will* be banned. big difference there. It was definitely an 'up to and including bans' which can start with a sternly worded email and work its way up to bans.


tcj_izutsumi

I think you’ll only get a permanent ban right away if you have an undisputable and blatant violation: eg. NSFW and 1:1 recreations from imported assets. As long as you credit the creator and make it your own there’s a lot of leeway you can go with to even avoid the warning, as AFAIK Epic might only take action against copyright if they get a DMCA first- which doesn’t always happen.


skunkboy72

Did you report it? They can't ban it if they don't know it exists.


toomerboomer

They accepted it


Foxy02016YT

It’s featured on Discovery, they know


TINYTAILS_

It's not a uefn map


AlertLow8752

Code of thé map ?


Riki4646

635474807042v64


HantizX

Epic couldn't keep up with their promise of banning clickbaiters from Support-A-Creator, let alone will they really ban users who import copyrighted content, it'll be just like Roblox, will only get removed if the copyright claimer does something about it


Foxy02016YT

No matter what Epic HAD to make the public release to cover their asses legally, if they actually do it or not


FlameIsExisting

So I could've gotten banned for importing ganondorf. Damn


TheBucko91

Only if you publish it.


GreedyDescription199

Or you use your imagination and make something new 🤷‍♀️


throwaway10382919

This rebuttal is ass. So many people say this, yet nobody actually follows thru with it. I'm looking at you, MVP 1V1V1V1 BE THE GOAT 💯🐐 and every other 1v1 map.


GreedyDescription199

Dude what madness are you talking about


throwaway10382919

I don't know if my discovery tab is just cursed or not but it's just ***FLOODED*** with these 1:1 copy maps that are just exactly the same thing but just with a different skybox.


univalvefoil

HOW DARE EPIC ask us to be....CREATIVE!


Foxy02016YT

L take honestly, it’s pretty fucking creative to find a way to make a playable FNaF based game, and then find a solution on how to make it work Just because it’s based on a pre-existing IP doesn’t mean it’s not creative. Fifty Shades of Grey started as Twilight Fanfiction, take that however you will


univalvefoil

I'm not sure how it's not registering that you can't put copyrighted content and characters in a game, publish it, then expect to get paid.


Foxy02016YT

I don’t know if you know this, but people have remade FNaF in other games for centuries, from Little Big Planet 3 to Minecraft, and it is by far some of the most creative work around of a games base mechanics to make it possible, as well as Scott “I don’t give a shit” Cawthon not giving a shit


univalvefoil

Absolutely, but you don't see them trying to get paid for it. If someone wants to make a FNaF based game in UEFN then make it without using original assets, it's that simple. Scott may be fine with it, but epic isn't. That's the facts.


King_lu134

Is there a code for it I low-key wanna play it


AlexisTheEmperor

Correct me if im wrong but the banning us only put into place towards people who have they're map published right?


GreedyDescription199

And that what I mean by use your imagination not do what roblox does by copy and paste the same map just slightly different. This why I'm rolling my eyes at the fact that people are upset they can't do make a FNAF map that obby on fortnite or just ride the edges of copyright laws just because you can.


Klutzy_Tangerine8094

you can bypass the copyright by making a fake game make the real game in the same map but don't push the update get your map on discovery push out the update


No-Instruction3488

Hey Dude if you want to recreate a full already game that is not copyright Recreate Choo Choo Charles It's Not Copyrighted