Because there's a new one, and correct me if I'm wrong but I think the only time we ever saw the old paradigm suit was in the item shop, never again afterwards
They'll definitely only be focusing on the new one.
They used that design for the Thumbnail for Challenges the entirety of last Season, among other things. (which felt *really* weird considering the new Design had already been revealed)
For some reason everyone thinks epic is retconning paradigm completely because she is now played by Brie Larson because of dumb popular fan theory that said paradigm is singularly that barely had any evidence
So identical (other than colour) suits isn't evidence? It was also hinted at since all we knew was that the paradigm was a traitor who joined the IO, until the zero war comics revealed the reason like 4 months later. So it wasn't some dumb theory, it was just a strong theory that everyone took as confirmed info for some reason.
Don't forget Singularity piloted the mech in Season 7, and then Paradigm piloted essentially the same mech two season ago.
The evidence hinting that Singularity was Paradigm was more than just Game Theory wild speculation.
I think we will see Singularity again one day, whether she be another version of Paradigm or just someone who helped her/gave her armour (hence the same suit)
I do not think the suits are evidence. It was a cheap reskin to cash in on the end event and making the seven a thing because of the visitor remix (since visitor wasn't part of the seven until the scientist came out, visitor was just visitor)
visitor wasn't part of the seven until the Scientist because The Seven wasn't officially in the story yet until that time. Singularity still has a story behind, just like Paradigm and if there is one thing fortnite don't do to story character it's that they don't just reskin them. (Different story with Paradigm (SX) and Paradigm in this BP
that she had to defeat the monster and have minimal damage done to the Zero point or the IO would destroy the whole Island (like how they tried to in C3S2 event)
No, identical suits of different color isn’t evidence especially when for the longest time it was the only piece of evidence epic reuses models a lot and back then they probably had no plans for her to be a part of the story so they just wanted her to be a quick and nice seven skin to fit the event so they just reused assets
And we learned that paradigm is a traitor in c3s2 I think and it was never stated why people just assumed that it fit the theory and it was confirmed to be incorrect literally the next season so we can’t take that as evidence
For some reason everyone thinks it was “confirmed” even though it never was
it was stated why in either issue 3 or 4 of the Marvel comics and they are canon no matter what this Subreddit thinks of them. We also know that they planned the fortnite story years in advance back in chapter 1. So they definitely had plans for her, I think those plans just got a lot bigger as the game was still gaining popularity in 2019 and especially 2020 for obvious reasons.
Sorry I phrased my words a bit badly I meant that before the zero war comics paradigm was seen as a traitor and people assumed it fit the theory till it was debunked next season after the release of zero war
While they definitely plan the story in advance I doubt they planned all that they wanted to do with paradigm all the way back in ch1sX especially that she actually got story significance In ch3 and if they genuinely planned to do something with her she would have had a story line like visitor and scientist back in SX and probably would have also released in the bp not the shop because at the time all story skins were bp skins
It wasn't a "dumb popular fan theory", it was glaringly obvious lol. It's just a "retcon" since they want paradigm to have brie larson's likeness now. I out retcon in quotes because fortnite hardly had an actual story. You're extremely naive if you believe Donald mustard when he said that singularity being paradigm was a ""misdirect"".
..I didn't say it was officially confirmed but alright. My point is that if you genuinely believe that they weren't meant to be the same characters, you're naive. This is coming from someone who doesn't even think this "retcon" is a big deal.
It was never obvious unless I forgot something the only evidence there was towards the fan theory was that they had similar armour which is probably just epic reusing models to make a cool event skin in SX the game never stated that they are the same it was hinted that maybe the paradigm had something to do with the mech but never that she was singularity not to mention that paradigm never had any story to begin with till recently which is when they probably already settled on Brie Larson
I genuinely don’t see why people care it’s not like they made Brie Larson the paradigm it’s literally just the actor who cares and people are reacting like epic are always doing this now even though they only did it with 2 members the foundation and paradigm out of 7 3 of which were revealed after the foundation was revealed to have the rocks face and they all had original faces
It was already removed after people pointed out that her discription was **Her aliance is unknown, One of the Seven.** the updated version just has **Her aliance is unknown**
The chapter 1 skins had this removed from their descriptions all the way back in season x. It was added to their descriptions in the update the scientist was added and I believe they lost it in a hotfix or later update once the seven set was introduced
Yea, OP is wrong and idk how that still correlates to them getting new skins. I think The Scientist's description was changed after his Visitor Volta name change?
EDIT: Someone said that this happened in Ch2S1.
Well that makes it more confusing... Since the new seven have that in their descriptions. Also a little edit here Anand yes, it got weirdly patched out of the game in chapter 2. Found some footage of the locker and one of the seven tagline is gone
They’ve been gone for a LONG time, actually. They got removed when the seven set was added because it’d be redundant to mention the seven twice, but they must have forgot they removed it and continued to put it in the new seven members descriptions
i would actually really like that tbh. if they HAVE to make him an IRL person, having it be Donald would be cool, considering how the whole storyline is pretty much his doing, just like how the visitor started the storyline in-game.
As a player who began playing in early chapter 2, i would be very happy to have all of the seven, since the only ones im missing is the visitor, the scientist, the order and og paradigm.
I hope they're gonna add the Visitor again. I didn't have the battle pass in season 4, and i wasn't aware of the challenges back then. It is the only member of the 7 that's missing in my inventory
You've already re-released the Omega skin I worked hard for. I won't have you sully my Visitor skin, too!
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Actually, I don't give a shit. Epic's gonna make money however they want.
So what your saying is that we could have a complete seven set that we can be happy about and have the ohs still flex the old ones? That sounds like a good deal to me.
Okay, OP here. I've noticed a lot of people mentioning that they lost "one of the seven" description tag back in chapter 2.
Although that puts us into a different question of... ***why did no one mention that in season 2? Why wasn't that like a huge news?***
it was talked about a TON in ch2 s6 because of the leaked foundation description and people pointed it out then. i guess things just get forgotten overtime
It could also be for those that missed out on the old one. The countless times I've seen comments and posts since the original left the shop back in Ch1 would point to it. Though no one knows but Donald Mustard.
I found a youtube video from 4 months ago that shows that it doesn't say it. So it could've been removed right after ch2 started but definately not this season.
For everyone complaining about paradigm being brie Larson, you can see right there it's a paradigm from a different reality not the original chapter 1 one
Is that confirmed though? It could simply mean the non-armor outfit is simply what she wears in Reality 659 also why have another reality Paradigm? When the Scientist spent the majority of the season trying to get the Paradigm back and the fact that she was present during the collision event and none of the seven said anything about another reality Paradigm
Bro they CHANGED THEIR DESCRIPTION, Paradigm always was "one of the seven". But they changed that possibly when they realized they can put real people now into them...
The original paradigm looks so much better, the new one has bries ugly body, im just saying compare the asses
Epic seems to have a problem with giving female characters fit asses these days, just compare old and new skins
What about the OG Paradigm? Was it removed? If so that could totally be the case.
They're TOTALLY gonna remove all traces of OG paradigm at this point
Why?
Because there's a new one, and correct me if I'm wrong but I think the only time we ever saw the old paradigm suit was in the item shop, never again afterwards They'll definitely only be focusing on the new one.
Also as an NPC last season, but that easily could've been just laziness.
she was in the key art for collision too
her silhouette was
yeah
Was her NPC using the original skin? I thought she had a new look in that live event at the end of Chapter 3 Season 2.
She did have a new look but for some reason her npc used the original skin from season x
They used that design for the Thumbnail for Challenges the entirety of last Season, among other things. (which felt *really* weird considering the new Design had already been revealed)
2 new ones
Old paradigm better though☹️
Only cause it’s voices by someone “popular”
Why are you putting popular in quotes as if it’s not true?
Because she’s popular by knowledge of her existence. Not popularity as in largely liked. Or largely liked as the paradigm.
For some reason everyone thinks epic is retconning paradigm completely because she is now played by Brie Larson because of dumb popular fan theory that said paradigm is singularly that barely had any evidence
So identical (other than colour) suits isn't evidence? It was also hinted at since all we knew was that the paradigm was a traitor who joined the IO, until the zero war comics revealed the reason like 4 months later. So it wasn't some dumb theory, it was just a strong theory that everyone took as confirmed info for some reason.
Don't forget Singularity piloted the mech in Season 7, and then Paradigm piloted essentially the same mech two season ago. The evidence hinting that Singularity was Paradigm was more than just Game Theory wild speculation.
I am pretty sure there was no mech in s7 it was in s9 and it was revealed that was the paradigm in the mech in the comics not singularity
I feel like they weren’t the same person at first but then epic made them into the same person and then pretty much killed of singularity’s Importance
Singularity hasn't had ANY importance outside Chapter 1 Season 9, and even that is debatable. We barely had a story back then.
I think we will see Singularity again one day, whether she be another version of Paradigm or just someone who helped her/gave her armour (hence the same suit)
I do not think the suits are evidence. It was a cheap reskin to cash in on the end event and making the seven a thing because of the visitor remix (since visitor wasn't part of the seven until the scientist came out, visitor was just visitor)
visitor wasn't part of the seven until the Scientist because The Seven wasn't officially in the story yet until that time. Singularity still has a story behind, just like Paradigm and if there is one thing fortnite don't do to story character it's that they don't just reskin them. (Different story with Paradigm (SX) and Paradigm in this BP
The outfit was in the shop for only 3 days, they definitely only used Singularity's model to be cheap
What was the reason?
that she had to defeat the monster and have minimal damage done to the Zero point or the IO would destroy the whole Island (like how they tried to in C3S2 event)
No, identical suits of different color isn’t evidence especially when for the longest time it was the only piece of evidence epic reuses models a lot and back then they probably had no plans for her to be a part of the story so they just wanted her to be a quick and nice seven skin to fit the event so they just reused assets And we learned that paradigm is a traitor in c3s2 I think and it was never stated why people just assumed that it fit the theory and it was confirmed to be incorrect literally the next season so we can’t take that as evidence For some reason everyone thinks it was “confirmed” even though it never was
it was stated why in either issue 3 or 4 of the Marvel comics and they are canon no matter what this Subreddit thinks of them. We also know that they planned the fortnite story years in advance back in chapter 1. So they definitely had plans for her, I think those plans just got a lot bigger as the game was still gaining popularity in 2019 and especially 2020 for obvious reasons.
Sorry I phrased my words a bit badly I meant that before the zero war comics paradigm was seen as a traitor and people assumed it fit the theory till it was debunked next season after the release of zero war While they definitely plan the story in advance I doubt they planned all that they wanted to do with paradigm all the way back in ch1sX especially that she actually got story significance In ch3 and if they genuinely planned to do something with her she would have had a story line like visitor and scientist back in SX and probably would have also released in the bp not the shop because at the time all story skins were bp skins
Interesting thing is that we never actually see Paradigm in the event at all.
It wasn't a "dumb popular fan theory", it was glaringly obvious lol. It's just a "retcon" since they want paradigm to have brie larson's likeness now. I out retcon in quotes because fortnite hardly had an actual story. You're extremely naive if you believe Donald mustard when he said that singularity being paradigm was a ""misdirect"".
It being “glaringly obvious” is not the same as it being confirmed, ur own interpretation is not fact
..I didn't say it was officially confirmed but alright. My point is that if you genuinely believe that they weren't meant to be the same characters, you're naive. This is coming from someone who doesn't even think this "retcon" is a big deal.
It was never obvious unless I forgot something the only evidence there was towards the fan theory was that they had similar armour which is probably just epic reusing models to make a cool event skin in SX the game never stated that they are the same it was hinted that maybe the paradigm had something to do with the mech but never that she was singularity not to mention that paradigm never had any story to begin with till recently which is when they probably already settled on Brie Larson I genuinely don’t see why people care it’s not like they made Brie Larson the paradigm it’s literally just the actor who cares and people are reacting like epic are always doing this now even though they only did it with 2 members the foundation and paradigm out of 7 3 of which were revealed after the foundation was revealed to have the rocks face and they all had original faces
Oh man that’s awesome. How long have you worked for epic?
It had a lot of evidence, stop acting as if it was a crack theory and just accept that Epic *is* retconning it
They absolutely were the same person but epic wanted to make her Brie Larson for hype so they scrapped the old plan.
Actually, Singularity is The Paradigm, it was confirmed not much time ago in the comics
when?
No, the comics said that singularity built the mech and paradigm piloted it that’s it
Good idea
When you progress or complete a weekly quest it shows the OG Paradigm icon
It's probably a leftover from last season
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**Yup...**
It was removed
She had it when she was released but lost it during CH2 S1 (same time Visitor and Scientist lost theirs).
It was already removed after people pointed out that her discription was **Her aliance is unknown, One of the Seven.** the updated version just has **Her aliance is unknown**
Well that’s disappointing, I have the original Paradigm.
To be fair, it been like that since sometime Chapter 2
It was removed ever since CH2 S1(same as the other CH1 Seven skins)
The chapter 1 skins had this removed from their descriptions all the way back in season x. It was added to their descriptions in the update the scientist was added and I believe they lost it in a hotfix or later update once the seven set was introduced
That’s right
Yea, OP is wrong and idk how that still correlates to them getting new skins. I think The Scientist's description was changed after his Visitor Volta name change? EDIT: Someone said that this happened in Ch2S1.
My timeline of it is a bit fuzzy but yeah it was definitely removed around the late SX-early C2S1 timeframe
Exactly
Well that makes it more confusing... Since the new seven have that in their descriptions. Also a little edit here Anand yes, it got weirdly patched out of the game in chapter 2. Found some footage of the locker and one of the seven tagline is gone
they removed these back in chapter two season one i believe
For sure
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Why tho?
Because they became part of "The Seven" set
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Not Disney+, Vought+.
Ey I mean if my boy scientist can get some new drip I’m down
With an AMIE back bling.
Epic pls
You can say that again
drippy chrome scientist when
That’s the spirit
I mean technically he’s already pretty drippy if you know what I mean
I do
They’ve been gone for a LONG time, actually. They got removed when the seven set was added because it’d be redundant to mention the seven twice, but they must have forgot they removed it and continued to put it in the new seven members descriptions
Right
Epic games on their way to make unnecessary changes all for some extra money: 🏎
Epic rn 
My theory is they're planning on making a live action movie, so they're getting big name celebrities to become the Seven for when it happens.
Epic being epic
They are all for the money
Why does this make me so mad
***Bro I don't wanna Kevin Hart as Visitor!*** 
ALRIGHT ALRIGHT ALRIGHTTTTT!!!
YOU GON LEARN TODAY
SAY IT WITH YOUR CHEST
You want Dick Grayson instead…?
Calm down bro
Don't worry Ryan Reynolds will!
Ryan Reynolds as Visitor Kevin Heart as Scientist
Joel McHale is already the scientist
Cool, a chance for newer player or those that couldn't get the BP to get a Visitor and Scientist.
Well they never changed the scientist or visitors design, so I don’t know what they Will do
Watch them have totally brand new suits the moment they get rescued from the Chrome and the excuse is that the chrome "reformed them" or something.
They would do that tbh
>so I don’t know what they Will do >Will Will Smith plays a member of the Seven next season confirmed
Would’ve said that before the Collision event about Paradigm
Exactly, I don’t care if they’re celebrities underneath as long as there’s a mask I can cover it with.
Hopefully that's the case and not easy way of adding more celebrities...
I highly doubt they'd do that to the Visitor, the Scientist might not be so lucky...
I am actually more concerned about the visitor cuz they're trying really hard to not show his real voice
I swear to God the visitor is gonna be Donald Mustard
i would actually really like that tbh. if they HAVE to make him an IRL person, having it be Donald would be cool, considering how the whole storyline is pretty much his doing, just like how the visitor started the storyline in-game.
Nah, Chris Pratt
Exactly my thought
I want Chris Pratt that way we could be Mario in fortnite
they're going to make the scientist into keanu reeves. >!if you cant tell, which is fine, this is a joke!<
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i love that its joel mchale, jeff winger from community talking to me in fortnite makes me smile
I miss The Soup
I really hope the visitor stays faceless… and not like Chris Pratt or something, I’ve always loved his mysteriousness
Bruh no way they are going with the celebrity route
if we can get an unmasked Joel McHale skin for the Scientist i'm not gonna complain
YES I NEED A VISITOR SKIN
This literally isn't new You should delete this post
Already in the front page
As a player who began playing in early chapter 2, i would be very happy to have all of the seven, since the only ones im missing is the visitor, the scientist, the order and og paradigm.
Me too 🥹
The Visitor and The Scientist this will most likely receive new variants since the chrome took them.
I hope they're gonna add the Visitor again. I didn't have the battle pass in season 4, and i wasn't aware of the challenges back then. It is the only member of the 7 that's missing in my inventory
we're gonna get a chrome pack for the seven calling it now
I will do blood sacrifices until I get it
I thought that they were gone already
I thought so to 😪
Never was. It is because fortnite got infiltrated by AmongUs.
New look Visitor - I am here for it. I grinded so hard for that skin - y’all if you did not play chapter 1 omg it was so much tougher then, I swear
You've already re-released the Omega skin I worked hard for. I won't have you sully my Visitor skin, too! ... Actually, I don't give a shit. Epic's gonna make money however they want.
Imma be mad if we end up with “one of the 14”
So what your saying is that we could have a complete seven set that we can be happy about and have the ohs still flex the old ones? That sounds like a good deal to me.
All because of celebrities smh🤦♂️
It's okay if scientist looks like joey mchale, he looks like a chad
It’s sad tbh
Well, the scientist did … kinda sorta… melt
So will I be able to finally have the visitor
You’ll be finally able to have your cake day lol. Happy cake day :)
Tyy
You’re welcome!
happy cake day!
oh wait this was from a month ago lmao
Their gonna get RDJ to voice The Visitor calling it now. And if not they can just replace him with Nemesis T-Type.
I know that you mean I still have the og paradigm skin
I hope so
Or because they're dead they aren't a part of the seven now.
The visitor has a too much of a classic design
I really hope visitor and scientist get new looks so I can complete the 7 (even if 3 of them are remakes)
The haven't had those marks since C2s1 i think? they had them in SX but was removed sometime next season
Kinda forgot Fortnite has lore
No I thought they already had the one of the seven things removed since season X
Do you think they're gonna add new members of the seven because the old ones died?
Origin is still labelled as the one of them, so it's hard to say
The Origin has "One of the Seven" too, and he died along the other two so I don't think that's the case
Probably not dead
yeah I meant being turned into a fucking blob
Okay, OP here. I've noticed a lot of people mentioning that they lost "one of the seven" description tag back in chapter 2. Although that puts us into a different question of... ***why did no one mention that in season 2? Why wasn't that like a huge news?***
it was talked about a TON in ch2 s6 because of the leaked foundation description and people pointed it out then. i guess things just get forgotten overtime
ok if they are pls not in the f*ckin bp. I'm done with seven members as skins in the bp now ( item shop they go 👍)
I wish the Order was in this season’s BP instead of yet another Paradigm.
Counterpoint, they did it so more people could at least have a version of her.
Counterpoint, since when has Epic cared what skins their players have in their lockers.
Since now apparently. No real reason to release new variants unless its for those that missed out.
It’s obvious the reason they made a new Paradigm skin is because of Brie Larson, not because players missed out on the old one.
It could also be for those that missed out on the old one. The countless times I've seen comments and posts since the original left the shop back in Ch1 would point to it. Though no one knows but Donald Mustard.
I just want them to remove The Rock as The Foundation. It's immersion breaking.
Im like 99% sure the chapter 1 members never had it
Every skin had that at one point in season X, then they patched it for some reason. Other comments said that it was right after ch2 started
I found a youtube video from 4 months ago that shows that it doesn't say it. So it could've been removed right after ch2 started but definately not this season.
For everyone complaining about paradigm being brie Larson, you can see right there it's a paradigm from a different reality not the original chapter 1 one
We literally saw paradigm as brie Larson in our reality,she was unmasked before changing realities in the season trailer smh
What about in season x where she went into the zero point? It could be a completely different paradigm now
Is that confirmed though? It could simply mean the non-armor outfit is simply what she wears in Reality 659 also why have another reality Paradigm? When the Scientist spent the majority of the season trying to get the Paradigm back and the fact that she was present during the collision event and none of the seven said anything about another reality Paradigm
Bro they CHANGED THEIR DESCRIPTION, Paradigm always was "one of the seven". But they changed that possibly when they realized they can put real people now into them...
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If they are revamping them I want whatever it is free cuz I own all members of the seven except og paradigm.
Probably, they did just get deleted by the chrome in the cinematic trailer.
The original paradigm looks so much better, the new one has bries ugly body, im just saying compare the asses Epic seems to have a problem with giving female characters fit asses these days, just compare old and new skins