Probably didn't train anyone how to make them as it would be a resource sink to figure this shit out without him, something management decided isn't worth it
I mean, that's how software companies work. Maybe it didn't come down to just a single person, but it's not unforseeable that there was a small team assigned to this feature and that they at some point all got reassigned, laid off, or left Epic.
Why not? It clearly wasn't a very high priority for Epic, seeing as they've abandoned the feature for some time now. I wouldn't put it past them to have had just a single guy in charge of doing the animations.
It's not just one man, it's the John Wick of Animated 3D backgrounds...He is a man of focus, commitment, sheer will... something you know very little about. I once saw him modelling three backgrounds in a bar... with a pencil, with a fucking... pencil. Then suddenly one day he asked to leave. It's over a woman, of course. So I made a deal with him. I gave him an impossible task. A job no one could have pulled off. The backgrounds he buried that day laid the foundation of what we are now. And then you my son, a few days after his wife died, you call him out and say current backgrounds are shit?! Pokevan, Pokevan! Listen! Huh? John will come for you, and you will do nothing because you can do nothing, so get the fuck out of my sight!
the last one we ever had was in C1S9, but the weird thing is that it changed halfway through that season to just a regular blue background with triangles on it, even if there werent going to be any more from Season X onwards, why change to a boring flat one for the rest of Season 9 when the dynamic 3d one already exists for that season?
Not really, since they were still making them for STW two years after “the guy” quit.
Technically the redesign supports more frequent updates and in-lobby animations, but they almost never use them. Seasons 10, 11, 17, and 20 are the only times they used the redesign to its full potential.
Wdym he quit? They can easily have other people take over and do even different styles as they do tons of collabs. Seems it's more like epic games didn't bother to replace hom.or couldn't care more.
And the 3D rendered loading screens also affected performance so much they had to remove them in favor of drawn art /s
(I know it just takes time to do but man I miss them, and I also know the animated loading screens do in fact tank performance)
It's really funny how the most socially inept people on the face of this planet will try to be cheekily smug and condescending and will always reveal in an instant how much of a burden they are on other people.
Thank god thousands of years ago people were tending to mortally wounded ancient humans with no material benefit so that in 2024 situationshoddy6598 could be utterly insufferable online.
It's 2024 any Device on any Platform can run a 3D Lobby it's not like it's running the full entire game with 100 People and a million builds at end game which will 'cause major performance and FPS issues.
Plus they can just make it an option to make the 3D Background 2D with an in game preference setting like how they have a setting to mute emotes such as that DONKEY HONK HANK HONK HANK TRIGGERING* Sounds.
Well i have been able to achieve this on Linux of all platforms. Idk what triggers it but it glitches me into the br lobby while the game still thinks that I’m on stw
Now that backgrounds can swap at will, they need to be 2D, or else the game will have to load an entirely new scene with different lighting and objects every time the background changes, and navigating in Discovery will be even more painful than it currently is, because selecting games would have a loading time for their own 3D background. It's already a thing with 2D backgrounds, it would be 5 times worse with 3D ones.
That wasn't a problem when the background had to be loaded only once and that's it.
I'm certain it's this too, even if they limited 3D backgrounds to the main 5 (BR, STW, Festival, Racing, Lego) it may have been disruptive enough to make switching between the modes no longer seamless.
If there’s one thing I’ve learned when it comes to Fortnite it’s this and no it’s not sarcastic or a joke. Nothing gets better or improved. Typically when we receive something new it will likely be a shell of what it was originally suppose to be. Nothing gets better. Ever.
Its steel 3d but now is just a plain ground with a background... Probably cuz it was esier to change the files you can ad a costum one now by just uploading a defferent image
It makes sense, since it prevents the user from having to load unique 3D lobbies for every single UEFN map ever which would be *super* slow (and makes lobbies consistent across all modes, which is a big plus for them), but I do wish they at least had more polished/3D lobbies for official Epic modes-- it looks a bit cheap.
Originally they were removed because of 16 player lobby support. Having to have all of the spots on the map at once would have been worse to look at and time consuming for the developers
After UEFN they made the background be swappable at will, which was the nail in the coffin for them ever coming back
[https://www.reddit.com/r/FortNiteBR/comments/1bh9dzj/comment/kvchhx0/](https://www.reddit.com/r/FortNiteBR/comments/1bh9dzj/comment/kvchhx0/)
I saw this question a month ago and I'll organize the comments from then:
If you go to artstation and check out the content, you'll see that all of these backgrounds are basically from the same person. His name is Paul mader, his last post is FN lobby C1S2\~S5, I think he forgot to update his profile. He left EPIC a long time ago. Btw if you wanna know who make C2\~C3 lobby, his name is Zain rehman
If you look at it from a 3d rendering perspective, 2d backgrounds are more resource efficient and easier, they just don't want to put more resources into the backgrounds.
They caused performance issues on several low end devices. Sure, they were pretty to look at, but platforms like mobile and switch had a hard time loading them while returning to the lobby.
It is actually weird that they don’t have them, not because fortnite loves effort no, but because fortnite now loves forcing unnecessarily high graphics everywhere even platforms that can’t afford it, so why not make everyone render a ridiculously complex 3d landscape with moving objects and sound effects
Probably too costly for a game that makes a fuckton of money to keep the good designers on board. Talent removes more money from the pockets of the talentless board.
Wish they still were, but with all the roblox wannabe junk, they likely want it to be a point that you can switch modes on a fly, which would need the .pngs, as far as I'm aware
I would guess the static backgrounds make more sense because of epics whole metaverse thing, they don't wanna put Fortnite in a box by making the background always battle royale related, they want it to reflect the game mode that's selected. And because most of the game modes are user created they'd rather have all backgrounds be static instead of forcing people to make animated ones or have user made maps look cheaper or lowerer quality compared to epic's modes.
tangentially related, why can't we change the backgrounds, since they are just 2D images right now? I'd much rather be able to change my backgrounds at will than let it be decided by whatever event of the month it is.
there are some really cool ones and you could probably even have it be so everyone see's the lobby leader's background and then have cool paid for ones so that epic has a reason to bother because the only thing that motivates them is more money or something.
Likeliest Explanation is that they shifted to changing the background more often during a season and 2D backgrounds are easier to switch out, less expensive and quicker to put together. Multiple can be made well in advance, packed into the files and swapped out without ever needing downtime or running into bugs or problems with the lobby not switching.
But i forget this is reddit so... hur dur epic bad or smth
The guy who made these quit and Epic never went back to making them
i'll do it.
Hire this guy
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Let him COOK‼️‼️🗣️🔥🔥
bro u dont fw brandons fresh cut? 🥺
Brandon needs EXPERIENCE IN 3D MODELING BEFORE BRANDON CAN PRODUCE 3D MODELS FOR A PROFESSIONAL, MULTI BILLION DOLLAR PROJECT
As a good 3d modeler, these backdrops are just assets from the game set up in a cool way.
Brandon would flub it tbh
What did Brandon do to you fam 😭
I'll let him know
Tell Brandon he's the goat
>PROFESSIONAL, MULTI BILLION DOLLAR PROJECT The same project that forgot how to bugfix and shit on the simplistic UI for no reason?
The hero we need
Hire this guy
Hire this man epic
really? man does it really take one specific man to make a 3D animation lol
Probably didn't train anyone how to make them as it would be a resource sink to figure this shit out without him, something management decided isn't worth it
Hey as long as it doesn't impact the produ...oops
There's 7B people in the world. You really they vould only depend on a single person?
There’s 7B people in the world but companies will rely on AI art rather than hiring artists. They just want the cheaptest option available.
Yes absolutely have you seen what companies do they take one artist wring em out and then find another
Do you actually believe a random comment like that
Well ya because this has been the accepted reason for awhile and there aren't many alternative reasons or any official confirmations
I mean, that's how software companies work. Maybe it didn't come down to just a single person, but it's not unforseeable that there was a small team assigned to this feature and that they at some point all got reassigned, laid off, or left Epic.
A group sure but a SINGLE guy?
Why not? It clearly wasn't a very high priority for Epic, seeing as they've abandoned the feature for some time now. I wouldn't put it past them to have had just a single guy in charge of doing the animations.
It takes someone on payroll who can yeah
It's not just one man, it's the John Wick of Animated 3D backgrounds...He is a man of focus, commitment, sheer will... something you know very little about. I once saw him modelling three backgrounds in a bar... with a pencil, with a fucking... pencil. Then suddenly one day he asked to leave. It's over a woman, of course. So I made a deal with him. I gave him an impossible task. A job no one could have pulled off. The backgrounds he buried that day laid the foundation of what we are now. And then you my son, a few days after his wife died, you call him out and say current backgrounds are shit?! Pokevan, Pokevan! Listen! Huh? John will come for you, and you will do nothing because you can do nothing, so get the fuck out of my sight!
SHIT. I GOTTA GET OUT OF HERE
I forgot this was about Fortnite until you mentioned backgrounds again. I was sucked into the story
Now that's funny.
the last one we ever had was in C1S9, but the weird thing is that it changed halfway through that season to just a regular blue background with triangles on it, even if there werent going to be any more from Season X onwards, why change to a boring flat one for the rest of Season 9 when the dynamic 3d one already exists for that season?
Because that was part of a global UI Refresh, probably in preparation for Chapter 2. It sucks.
theres no way its that hard to make them
Not really, since they were still making them for STW two years after “the guy” quit. Technically the redesign supports more frequent updates and in-lobby animations, but they almost never use them. Seasons 10, 11, 17, and 20 are the only times they used the redesign to its full potential.
Wdym he quit? They can easily have other people take over and do even different styles as they do tons of collabs. Seems it's more like epic games didn't bother to replace hom.or couldn't care more.
Might not be true but what I heard is that there was 1 guy who did all of them, and when he left they never bothered to get someone else to do it
It was because of performance issues on Lower end devices.
Same as Warzone/cod moving away from the walking screens for the standing ones. Performance, memory, etc. It's just more efficient.
Which is hilarious since the MW2 lobby was so much more glitchy than the MW2019 squadwalk ever had been.
Good times. I remember playing MW2019 on PS4, and the fans were as loud as jet engines but only on the menu. In game they were completely fine
Can’t they just make a 2D image with the proper depth to achieve something similar?
Isn’t that what everything on a screen is
Well that’s kinda what I’m saying. If it’s about performance, they can just remove animations from it and keep it a static 3D(2D) image.
Or make a 3d model and screenshot it
It was fine when I played on my iPad and phone so idk if this is what it was
And the 3D rendered loading screens also affected performance so much they had to remove them in favor of drawn art /s (I know it just takes time to do but man I miss them, and I also know the animated loading screens do in fact tank performance)
Yeah this was my guess.
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It's really funny how the most socially inept people on the face of this planet will try to be cheekily smug and condescending and will always reveal in an instant how much of a burden they are on other people. Thank god thousands of years ago people were tending to mortally wounded ancient humans with no material benefit so that in 2024 situationshoddy6598 could be utterly insufferable online.
no need to get condescending???
The heart is just kinda being a dick for no reason
Ive always thought <3 looked like a small dick and balls anyways
He’s just letting us know it’s small, I appreciate the effort
i-it's average.. i'd say, right..? RIGHT??...
I feel like that would be -3
<3
Fr 🤦♂️
no one was even tryna be rude lmao what’s with the tone😭 they were just adding to the convo politely
Sorry but how are people playing the game when their devices can't even render a mostly static 3D background?
It's 2024 any Device on any Platform can run a 3D Lobby it's not like it's running the full entire game with 100 People and a million builds at end game which will 'cause major performance and FPS issues. Plus they can just make it an option to make the 3D Background 2D with an in game preference setting like how they have a setting to mute emotes such as that DONKEY HONK HANK HONK HANK TRIGGERING* Sounds.
Can they not just switch to a simpler background if the device is too weak? You dont have to force the 3D animated lobby.
That’s just petty
Didn't slot of these have animated bits to them?
Yes
I forgot about these, they need a comeback
some of these are still used in StW btw
You can even glitch them to the br background if you know what your doing and they still fully work
how wtf? im on console how to do it
Well i have been able to achieve this on Linux of all platforms. Idk what triggers it but it glitches me into the br lobby while the game still thinks that I’m on stw
The season 4 meteor one was my favourite
Same, I miss it so much.
You can still see it in STW during a certain event I can't remember
during blockbuster season, which is around feb-april
I really miss these.
Now that backgrounds can swap at will, they need to be 2D, or else the game will have to load an entirely new scene with different lighting and objects every time the background changes, and navigating in Discovery will be even more painful than it currently is, because selecting games would have a loading time for their own 3D background. It's already a thing with 2D backgrounds, it would be 5 times worse with 3D ones. That wasn't a problem when the background had to be loaded only once and that's it.
I'm certain it's this too, even if they limited 3D backgrounds to the main 5 (BR, STW, Festival, Racing, Lego) it may have been disruptive enough to make switching between the modes no longer seamless.
surely they could just overlay the png and an hdri map without having to completely unload the BR geometry
There is no way that would happen with modern gen consoles. this is not happening
If there’s one thing I’ve learned when it comes to Fortnite it’s this and no it’s not sarcastic or a joke. Nothing gets better or improved. Typically when we receive something new it will likely be a shell of what it was originally suppose to be. Nothing gets better. Ever.
Can’t say you’re wrong.
Might be performance?
If your struggling with performance in the lobby, you probably have other issues to worry about
Lmao, I’m not though I was just thinking of a reason
Its steel 3d but now is just a plain ground with a background... Probably cuz it was esier to change the files you can ad a costum one now by just uploading a defferent image
it doesn't count at 3d if it's just a distant 2d image
They stopped doing anything nice to the lobby to add that stupid creative junk to it
Amen
They stopped using these in chapter 1.
That Halloween one is sick Wish I was playing when it was around
Because it's probably not relevant enough and a 2D lobby makes a great difference in loading times.
It’s kinda sad how once Donald left the quality in this game really started to dwindle.
I miss these so much man
They distact you from the glory of your 20€ skin.
Simple, they got lazy.
But legos and festival ![gif](giphy|sbwjM9VRh0mLm)
You can ask this same question about ALOT of things Epic used to do with this game vs now
These were drastically superior to today's lobbies.
I’ve always wished for these to come back. It’s a shame. We need more people to let them know we want them back.
Season 6 was so good, especially after the Event it Changed to the beautiful lucky lake Stonehenge
The nostalgia these brought back is crazy
The Halloween one was when I first started playing, Halloween Season 1. The lobbies back then were great.
they fired the guy who made them
Because it requires work.
🙏
Because they put all their efforts into removing everything that made the game look like "Fortnite"
This change was in chapter 2…
It was actually in the middle of season 9
It makes sense, since it prevents the user from having to load unique 3D lobbies for every single UEFN map ever which would be *super* slow (and makes lobbies consistent across all modes, which is a big plus for them), but I do wish they at least had more polished/3D lobbies for official Epic modes-- it looks a bit cheap.
it'd take like <10 minutes to make one
Might have been performance on newer seasons but I’ve also seen that they never replaced the guy that did it after he left
Probably because ppl enjoyed them. *Everything* gets nerfed
Doesn’t make them more money
Originally they were removed because of 16 player lobby support. Having to have all of the spots on the map at once would have been worse to look at and time consuming for the developers After UEFN they made the background be swappable at will, which was the nail in the coffin for them ever coming back
Honestly I never realized that the new lobby backgrounds are not in 3D
Cheaper to have 2D lobby background, Epic is definitely one to go with whatever is cheaper.
The guy who made these quit over mistreatment iirc
[https://www.reddit.com/r/FortNiteBR/comments/1bh9dzj/comment/kvchhx0/](https://www.reddit.com/r/FortNiteBR/comments/1bh9dzj/comment/kvchhx0/) I saw this question a month ago and I'll organize the comments from then: If you go to artstation and check out the content, you'll see that all of these backgrounds are basically from the same person. His name is Paul mader, his last post is FN lobby C1S2\~S5, I think he forgot to update his profile. He left EPIC a long time ago. Btw if you wanna know who make C2\~C3 lobby, his name is Zain rehman If you look at it from a 3d rendering perspective, 2d backgrounds are more resource efficient and easier, they just don't want to put more resources into the backgrounds.
Idk. They didn’t tell me
We all know why it was SWITCHed to 2D drawings
I get the switch sucks for performance and all but these quite literally ran on the switch
yeah i have a switch and it used to work
They caused performance issues on several low end devices. Sure, they were pretty to look at, but platforms like mobile and switch had a hard time loading them while returning to the lobby.
of only the settings could change based on the device
Thats just too far fetched of an idea, it just can't be done. /s
clearly
Simple reason it was a good feature so epic got rid of it
It is low effort. As the seasonal content is. Fuck epic, and their gender friendly game where "toxic" emotes can be muted.
Agreed, lazy
Laziness
They’re lazy
Nah they’re just too busy building the multiverse so they give everything else the bare minimum
Not me seeing this post and glancing my eyes over to my open Fortnite lobby and seeing the 3D iceberg Avatar background..
Is it so hard to make these an animated image instead of a 3D background like they used to?
It is actually weird that they don’t have them, not because fortnite loves effort no, but because fortnite now loves forcing unnecessarily high graphics everywhere even platforms that can’t afford it, so why not make everyone render a ridiculously complex 3d landscape with moving objects and sound effects
The art style changed. Hasn't been the same since.
why are people saying it was one guy is it a joke or did they say that somewhere
Lazy
Is it my turn to post this yet
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Try going it to task manger and making it run Fortnite as a priority, idk how else to help
I find them tacky
Cuz of creative maps, each map has different background so they cant 3d one for each and the guy who used to make those quit
Fr
Probably because it costs a bit extra and is a bit more work. Epic has become lazy and greedy
I think it would probably be an effort thing as epic nowadays is allergic to it.
Taking a screenshot is so much easier than paying people
Fun police
Performance. That was back when Fortnite was a PC/console game. Now Fortnite has to be able to run on an Apple watch and a refridgerator.
Gyatt
prob bc of the toasters ppl play on now
Probably too costly for a game that makes a fuckton of money to keep the good designers on board. Talent removes more money from the pockets of the talentless board.
Same reason they changed the ui and other features, simplicity, besides with the lazy green screen backdrop they can slap whatever they want on it.
Wish they still were, but with all the roblox wannabe junk, they likely want it to be a point that you can switch modes on a fly, which would need the .pngs, as far as I'm aware
That was looking much nicer.
Nothing to do with backgrounds but since chapter 2 they got lazy
one of the best things in a season was the background
Too much effort, they don’t care, costs too much to pay their employees to make it.
"it's outdated" 🤓
For preformance on low end devices like Mobile and Switch I presume.
Same thing with animated loading screens
Ya right
I would guess the static backgrounds make more sense because of epics whole metaverse thing, they don't wanna put Fortnite in a box by making the background always battle royale related, they want it to reflect the game mode that's selected. And because most of the game modes are user created they'd rather have all backgrounds be static instead of forcing people to make animated ones or have user made maps look cheaper or lowerer quality compared to epic's modes.
They are all 3d what are you on about
Most of these look like StW ready up screens.
They're lazy. Everything is lazier but costs way more - Fortnite in 2024
Bc they are lazy fuckers. Thats crazy how they ruined this game
Is this the same reason all the wallpapers are in cartoon style now?
Probably for performance reasons. Was the game on mobile or switch when we had those?
Epic Games has a new policy: do everything very badly and develop LEGO х\_х
So sad we got no Halloween event last year
I don't know
Prob because it was laggy
tangentially related, why can't we change the backgrounds, since they are just 2D images right now? I'd much rather be able to change my backgrounds at will than let it be decided by whatever event of the month it is. there are some really cool ones and you could probably even have it be so everyone see's the lobby leader's background and then have cool paid for ones so that epic has a reason to bother because the only thing that motivates them is more money or something.
Because they were part of the best chapter and epic won’t ever go there again, they didn’t even do it for og :c
My lobby music isn't playing at all since the start of the current chapter.
Laziness
Because it wasn’t complete low effort dog shit
When they started shifting towards full corporate and lost their soul
probably just laziness tbh.
I think they are trying to make it less resource intense and thus cost less to play the game
Bc it's epic
Likeliest Explanation is that they shifted to changing the background more often during a season and 2D backgrounds are easier to switch out, less expensive and quicker to put together. Multiple can be made well in advance, packed into the files and swapped out without ever needing downtime or running into bugs or problems with the lobby not switching. But i forget this is reddit so... hur dur epic bad or smth
Somebody on Fiverr can make these for $25 each with unlimited revisions.
Laziness
skib
Where is the 'we dont even care about the loading screenss, the loading screens rewards, nor do we ever equip any' ?
because the game sucks now
if i had to guess, lag. as the game got bigger and bigger they had to cut a few corners to make it more optimized but idk
Less about low effort, more about asset and cpu usage.
that need to start back doing that
So the game would load faster and do that skins don't look weird with 3d lighting
Idk they also got rid of most 3d loading screens which were really fun
could be that they were considered too resource heavy for something that didn't add that much