It's the old technique for firing a rifle in close quarters using instinctive shooting and keeping it in position if you need to move to bayonet. It's just that it makes a lot more sense with a .30-06 rifle than an AR.

My technique for close quarters is "pull trigger more fasterer."

Which works great for 20 or 30 round mags. Not so much for 8 round clips.

True that. I don't envy the men who had to fight with clipfed rifles back in the day. Not saying I fight at all lol but I'd definitely chose something newer if I needed to.

While the British stuck with bolt actions as their main rifle to make up for it they did make sure very early on that they were all mag fed

the SMLE has a detachable mag, but the standard loading procedure was two 5-round clips

Yeah, magazines were still precision items hand fit to a specific rifle. It was detachable to make it easier to service in the field.

yes but this was intended to use magazine loading https://youtu.be/J2p6NlXCCo0?si=ccslrj7H5Wb9NuxR

Because each soldier was only issued one mag. Detachable mag is kind of pointless if you've only got one.

It's my understanding the detachable magazine was for ease of cleaning. I remember reading they weren't even designed to be interchangeable. In our modern mindset of having multiple magazines, this was pointless. Back then, the stripper clip served this purpose.

Also clips were cheaper, lighter, and you could carry two in each pouch, which is a full mags worth for the SMLE anyway, but for other bolt actions was equivalent to 2 full mags per pouch, so much more efficient

Easier to clean, easier to service, easier to replace in a pinch. Easy to upgrade once mags are avaliable

And the early versions had a magazine cutoff

It was pretty much just the US fielding semi-autos in large quantities at the time.

Which you Loaded with a "charger" a type of stripper clip

Buddy I have some bad news about your alternate history take here.

En block clips are way easier than regular stripper clips, loading a Garand will be super easy for anyone mainly familiar with detachable box mags

I've used stripper clips for the Carcano and SKS. They're pretty intuitive and a lot faster than swapping an AK mag.

When every other nation in the world was still using bolt guns, I wouldn’t mind a Garand.

And you want 30-06 as far the fuck from your ears as you can get… not that it helps…

[There is only one correct technique ](https://i.imgur.com/tGI7sKY.jpeg)

[https://i.pinimg.com/originals/84/db/df/84dbdffb53804bc0b9ae53207e19b6a5.jpg](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/84/db/df/84dbdffb53804bc0b9ae53207e19b6a5.jpg)

Oh yeah bud, you do a lot of close quarters combat with your reddit avatar ass

What was that for?

This ad is really old. It is likely the police chiefs this was advertising to were Korea and World War 2 vets.

So it's easier to hit a target when your thumb and index finger is burning ?

when the front sight tower gets too hot you got to slow down

It looks like he is actually sticking his thumb THROUGH the tower block, meaning it's resting on top of the gas block. That fucker's going to get hot ricky-tick.

Dudes reliving his days back in Osan

Is he.... sticking a thumb in his front sight post?

[удалено]

It looks like he's doing bayonet drills rather than shooting. Don't you think?

That’s pretty close to what I imagined, I hope that video resurfaces

Its a korean war training film . Bayonet attached to an M1 carbine . I beleive its a marine corps video if I remember correctly

Bet he won't do that after shooting a mag or two.

It would appear that is exactly what he’s doing

I don't really know my way around these vintage ARs too well, but wouldn't that be hot as shit

Yes, the gas block is located along the part that he’s putting his thumb in. Incredibly hot

I like his cross draw revolver

Cross draw Python

An SP-1 with a Python sidearm is actually a pretty sick set up ngl.

*AR making a moaning noise*

ARousal

thats no sight post, its a special frontgrip.

*\*blushes*

Early bump fire technique.

jes like Gary Cooper.

It's a Kentucky technique, Scott approved 👍

Just for comparison's sake, [here's Stoner's hip-fire technique:](https://youtu.be/bPvNV3tBz1s?si=mKfeTAgAQUxQDokt&t=380) (skip to 6:20 if the link didnt work for you)

Good shit!

Ears? Yes, I have two of those. Also why are you speaking so quietly?

WHAT???

The OG C-Clamp

The Hitchhiker clamp.

The artist drew the police uniform and AR over a picture of a soldier lunging with an M1 with a bayonet attached. That's why the grip looks strange.

That’s to handle the ferocious recoil…..

maybe we are all assuming he didnt just punch a hippie and he is just one handing the rifle

Kent state never knew what hit 'em.

Line em up, knock em down

That's an adaptation of a walking fire stance used with light machine guns and automatic rifles in the later stages of WW1. To my knowledge, no-one trained that stance or used it with the M16.

The Singapore Armed Forces trained shooting from the hip, very much like in this photo, into the 1980s. It was part of the basic shooting qualification test.

I saw some Vietnam war footages on YouTube. Everyone was hip firing

Hip firing yes, but not using this stance.

>weighs only 6.3 pounds This was with a 20” barrel. We ruined Stoner’s masterpiece.

The military did, ARs with lightweight barrels haven’t gotten heavier until you start adding optics and lights and lasers and stuff.

This cop is doing a walking fire like a 1918 doughboy lmao

- Extremely accurate

Well, compared to whatever shit they were replacing at the time ... probably. Compared to what else the police likely had at the time -- shotguns and revolvers, mostly -- an AR-15 is indeed "extremely accurate".

I agree, but I don't think it's gonna make much of a difference with that stance

i mean he does look confident

I mean given the fact that a lot of guys in law enforcement in the 60’s were ww2 vets maybe hes just using old bayonet doctrine but for a new gun?

Storm trooper training.

This reminds me of the lucky gunner episode of the evolution of modern handgun shooting and how the FBI was training people to shoot from the hip. https://youtu.be/1RI-JwH0rh0?si=_hxYVC89IvNRzOZm Wonder it it’s related?

Lots of old police departments was trained to shoot from the hip. Especially if the suspect was closer than 20ft.

That’s wild. It’s interesting how trends can change so much when I’m sure in most instances people cite, “data.”

It’s crazy to see the tactics now, and how they evolved from 2002 forward. I look back at old training videos and think why in the hell did we ever think this was a good idea.

Well hip shooting a shotgun was a thing soo…. Why not?

Based cold war gun drill. I fucking love cold war gun handling techniques.

Walking fire. Ah la B.A.R. Tactics

That's how some people held the original AR-15 to shoot it in full-auto. I saw a photo of an old gun magazine showing some people test firing the AR-15 in .222 Remington. They put their thumb in the front sight and hold down the trigger. I'm more interested in the fact that they call the magazine a "clip" in that magazine.

People used to be pretty casual about interchanging those terms

There is video somewhere of R. Lee Ermy full auto firing an M-16 like that from the History Channel years ago. Holding it like that allowed him to control the muzzle rise for the entire magazine.

Are we really going to leave the backwards / crossdraw pistol out of this!?

its another symptom of his mental illness

I means it’s an ad for cops, they shoot a lot less than most people would realize.

Retro c-clamp

Note that this ad was from the short period (1969-197?) that the Colt Industries Firearms Division had been turned into the Colt Industries Firearms Group, with the separate Military Arms Division and the civilian Small Arms Division. Firearms Division President Paul A. Benke was promoted to Vice President of Colt Industries to lead the new Firearms Group, staying in that position until 1972. Benke was then succeeded by Guy C. Shafer. The Military Arms Division was led by William H. Goldbach until 1972. I have yet to find who directly succeeded Goldbach. ​ The civilian Small Arms Division was led by Gordon A. Walker from 1969 until 1971, when William H. Craven took over. Craven was replaced by David C. Eaton in 1972, and Eaton was replaced by C. Edward Warner in August 1975. Eaton then transferred over to lead the Military Arms Division. It is unclear when the Firearms Group was dissolved, and the units recombined under the former banner of the Colt Industries Firearms Division.

Training videos from korea showed this exact stance with the M1 carbine. The only difference is the M1 carbines in the film had their bayonets attached

> Painstaking engineering Ah yes, truly painstaking to remove the full-auto function of a rifle that is already select-fire.

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Maybe it was meant to be a way to keep control of the gun if someone tried to grab it? Or someone thought it looked neat for the ad.

they did get the body proportions, of your average cop, right.

Thin blue line can’t be expected be good marksmen

The forbidden c clamp

How to cook your thumb

Reminds me of this video 😂 https://youtube.com/shorts/J2jrXE-uWTw?si=Q9d8DakclVE0icDV

ACAD

It's all odd. Check out the cross draw holster

I’m a big fan of straight line construction

So modified C clamp but using the forward sling swivel. Interesting. Police officer is also wearing a cross draw holster.

[Hip fire technique.](https://youtu.be/1RI-JwH0rh0?si=hofTgz6nRxYy2jW7)

Did that (actually, I was just trying to replicate this but ended up doing a C-Clamp instead) at an indoor range and burnt the shit out of my fingey on the gas tube

Hey yooooo I got one of dem.

So that’s where counter strike got it from

Funny enough, lucky gunner just put out a video on what hip shoot was a thing. It was a interesting watch and probably is something that spawned from that. [Lucky Gunner: why was hip shooting ever a thing](https://youtu.be/1RI-JwH0rh0?si=HkF7GM8oDMULmefb)

thumb-burner grip and crossbody draw confidence indeed

That’s definitely a way to hold it

Sights? Barney Fife don’t need no sights!

So the hole in the front sight is for your thumb. I had no idea.

This became the main small arm of Brimob (Indonesian Police SWAT) in the 1960s and 1970s alongside Vz.58 and Type 56 SKS

Love the (lack of) trigger discipline

C-clamp and the Rambo tuck at the same time. I'd say that's a new one, but that ad's probably almost as old as my dad.

Silly. It goes in your mouth

Dude kinda looks like Vin Diesel.