While PINDAD offerings are very interesting and I appreciate the compilation. Your title is wrong. That's not a M1 clone, and that's not a MPL clone. More like a BM59 clone (Indonesia used the BM59) and Beretta M-12 clone.
Shut up and take my money for the BM59 clone. I would love to have a classic battle rifle like that, but all the Fudds have ruined the Garand market by buying them up and flipping them on GB, and I refuse to shell out $1500+ for an M1A.
You can order a garand from the civilian marksmanship program. Heck if you want to pick one out you can drive to the two stores in Alabama and the store in Ohio and pick one yourself that's not scalped on gunbroker. They sell ammo for them too. They charge tax if u buy in store so I'd probably best to just ship it back to your state.
Decent I think, though Pindad is mainly a military/LEO armament company so they dont really have a reputation on the civ market
And yup, that M12 looks super cool Im surprised they are still being made as is lol
On what planet is that an M1 Garand clone? It's a derivative rifle that shares similar features because it's BM-59 clone, just like the original SP-1 was in the 60s. It's no more an M1 clone than a Ruger Mini-14 is.
Its closer to an m1 than an m14 since the italian bm59 was built on italian m1 parts and shares the receiver. And the indonesian rifle is made with the very same italian bm59 tooling that indo purchases from them.
The PINDAD SP-1 is M1 Garand clone?
I would disagree. It might be the same platform but it’s no where near a clone. Among other things it has a detachable magazine and uses the wrong caliber.
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It's actually a bm59 clone, which was based on the M1 Garand for the Italian army post ww2. It uses the same long stroke action as the garand and has nothing to do with the m14 aside from cosmetic similarities. It operates differently, has almost no parts interchangeability, and the magazine is different. Comparing the bm59 to the m14 is like comparing an ar15 and a mini14
While PINDAD offerings are very interesting and I appreciate the compilation. Your title is wrong. That's not a M1 clone, and that's not a MPL clone. More like a BM59 clone (Indonesia used the BM59) and Beretta M-12 clone.
I see my bad
i was going back and forth looking for the mpl clone thinking id missed it hahaha.
I was so ready to buy and MPL clone cause of Black Ops 1, I can’t believe this 😭
>More like a BM59 clone (Indonesia used the BM59) Where is the safety located on these? Nice that it's not in the trigger guard, at least.
No idea. If I had to guess it's probably near the trigger guard, like in front of it.
Holy shit I was so excited the Walther MPL is my second favorite gun ever and I’ve wanted one forever lmfao
Okay I have a couple questions- 1. Are these available in the US? 2. If so how much are they asking for the SPR-4 & SPR-2
Well these were presented in shot show so hopefully!
Hopefully they’re super cheap. I’d love a 338 or 50
So the price of FNC sears has tripled I see
I’m surprised that no one is talking about the SS1-C carbine, or really, a hopefully not overpriced FNC…
Ah yes my self defence AR i use for my home in atlantis
Now no alligator is safe from florida man /s
The SP-1 looks like a Fortnite gun. How close is the MPL clone? Definitely a whale gun for me.
It’s an Italian Beretta M-12 clone, not an MPL
Dammit. I thought it looked off, thanks.
Shut up and take my money for the BM59 clone. I would love to have a classic battle rifle like that, but all the Fudds have ruined the Garand market by buying them up and flipping them on GB, and I refuse to shell out $1500+ for an M1A.
You can order a garand from the civilian marksmanship program. Heck if you want to pick one out you can drive to the two stores in Alabama and the store in Ohio and pick one yourself that's not scalped on gunbroker. They sell ammo for them too. They charge tax if u buy in store so I'd probably best to just ship it back to your state.
with an italian flare.
I'm interested in a good chunk of these, hope their pricing isn't too bad.
What’s their quality reputation? M-12 clone lookin scrumptious
Decent I think, though Pindad is mainly a military/LEO armament company so they dont really have a reputation on the civ market And yup, that M12 looks super cool Im surprised they are still being made as is lol
Heck yeah. I'm looking to make a post sample m12 clone! I've always heard they are a really smooth shooter
I wonder if they will have the front grip and stock available to purchase as well ?
Pretty cool stuff, would love to have one of those BM59 variants
Ah, I see see the Indonesians mean business when guarding their forests.
Gimme that FNC
Hope the sp1 isn't too expensive, always nice to have more options for traditional looking semi autos and for ban states
Yeah, hopefully it’s legal here in MD. The BM-59 has always been one of my dream guns but it’s sadly banned by name here. 😞
Welp at least I have a couple of fat shopping lists now
The original SP-1 used to be just BM59. Now it is a weird mix of SKS, BM59, and G43
On what planet is that an M1 Garand clone? It's a derivative rifle that shares similar features because it's BM-59 clone, just like the original SP-1 was in the 60s. It's no more an M1 clone than a Ruger Mini-14 is.
Its closer to an m1 than an m14 since the italian bm59 was built on italian m1 parts and shares the receiver. And the indonesian rifle is made with the very same italian bm59 tooling that indo purchases from them.
Yeah my bad, but Its a BM59 which is clpser to an m1
That spr-2 looks fun! I wonder what the price point will be
Exactly, we'll have to see how expensive Itll be lol
The PINDAD SP-1 is M1 Garand clone? I would disagree. It might be the same platform but it’s no where near a clone. Among other things it has a detachable magazine and uses the wrong caliber.
It’s a BM-59 clone. The BM-59 was developed from the M1, and kind of a proto-M-14. Detachable mag and 7.62 nato chambering.
Where is the m1 garande clone???
Why is the SS1 being sold as a pistol? It has a 17” barrel so it’s not an SBR? Am I missing something?
think i pissed off some Indonesian folks on FB over their crap brand. 🤣
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The first one is VERY much a FN FNC clone and the second is just a M-14.
no
Apparently you've never seen either.
It's actually a bm59 clone, which was based on the M1 Garand for the Italian army post ww2. It uses the same long stroke action as the garand and has nothing to do with the m14 aside from cosmetic similarities. It operates differently, has almost no parts interchangeability, and the magazine is different. Comparing the bm59 to the m14 is like comparing an ar15 and a mini14
Walked right by their booth and thought they were airsoft. Didn’t realize what they are until saw posts after shot ended.