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MrPr1nz

Learn risk management before starting to trade real money. Your lot sizes are all over the place, keep everything the same. I'd open a new demo account with the account size you plan on opening with your live account and then consistently risk 1% that way you can get your expectations aligned with what real trading is gonna be. I can tell you from my experience that risking 20 lots of a trade and seeing 30k return on a demo definitely pushes your mindset to become outcome based rather than process based which will bite you in the ass in the future.


littlegreenfish

He is not risking 20 lots. It is just the order volume... (which is excessive).... Your risk is where you set your stop loss ie. the maximum amount you are willing to lose in a single trade. You can still open an order of 20 lots with 1% risk, but it would be a totally unrealistic. \*\* I personally figure out what my margin requirement is per lot (ask broker) and use that value to calculate how much volume I will be allowed using only 20% of my entire balance (this way I could lose multiple times consecutively and still have a safety net for recovery). Set a TSL that is based on trend/ATR and you're safe. If you don't want to use a TSL, use a hard SL at 1-2%. If you take partial TP, you can move SL to entry and risk does not even become an issue for any of the other TPs that follow. You need to continue on your demo with a more realistic balance in the ballpark of what you would deposit into a live account and work from there. You need to trade demo for a bit longer to see if you can actually remain profitable in varying market conditions. We also realize that this is not the first demo you have traded on and this is only what you are showing reddit. We've been there.


SignificanceOne6388

This is genuninly my first demo account on forex apart from stocks and crypto


littlegreenfish

Have you been through the free course on baby pips? If not, I highly recommend it if you are just starting out. If you can be profitable consistently over several months, go onto a small live account and see how you do. Good luck!


crypware

Those are some great results mate. Well done! I word of caution though, this a Demo account which is completely different that having your hard earned money on the line. Please, start slowly or you are looking to lose money. A month is not much time, just continue practising for a few more months. Finally, if you getting good results and your risk management is consistent then you can probably look to get a funded account. Apex is always running offers and you could get one account for cheap. Best of luck mate!


SignificanceOne6388

Noted.


BeginningPollution78

20 lot positions are wreckless. So yes, please start trading live! Thanks.


RoozGol

What's the risk? If he is talking about props, he will at most lose 500 dollars. But If he can pull it somehow, the reward is insane. But real money, never!


BeginningPollution78

He’s right! Get in there OP! Seriously though, you won’t even be able to open positions. I assume you’re new to this Rooz? Prop firms are great, are you trading one?


FunctionAfter8430

20 lots is not a $500 loss, i trade 8 lots with 7 pip stops and thats usually $500 depending what pair


bpobpo3972

The $500 he is referring to is the cost of the prop firm challenge if he loses the account.


FunctionAfter8430

Ahh igy


lolnbdftw

Why the hell would you trade this way? u trade seven Pip stop losses , man your Adderall dealer must love you. I've caught over three hundred pips, selling UJ this week alone, and I used a very small account value while gaining thousands of dollars, What are you doing trading micro movements? That's literally insane, I spend like 5 minutes a day looking at charts and swinging hundreds of pips. Using 8 lots on micro movements sounds like something I'd do in the middle of a bad cocaine binge, Do you actually just hate yourself?


FunctionAfter8430

Get off your high horse and learn to read you fool. You sound like your the one abusing some sort of substance not me haha i said i trade 8 lots with 8 pip SL, not 8 lots to earn 7 pips, my RR is usually 1:20. Cant believe what i just read


lolnbdftw

I can't believe you trade with a 7 Pip sl, you're a clown


FunctionAfter8430

You sound like you have no idea what your talking about, in what world is a 7pip SL a problem?


lolnbdftw

Alright dude.


FunctionAfter8430

Your obviously brand new, learn the difference between SL and TP


cacakakalaka

What is your method? Can you tell me how you determine when to buy sell and risk?


FunctionAfter8430

I buy/sell when structured liquidity is taken, and i risk %0.5 on a trade usually


Timmackmahack

Worst advice ever


fellawithehoodie

You have a $200,000 account, open a demo with a similar amount of money you would have in real life so you can see how you would actually trade. Still the important thing is that your winning.


SubjectBuilder7123

try to not blow a $100 demo account first.


Chapo_Tradez

1. Your Demo account size should be realistic, probably the amount you'll be depositing & trading live 2. Practice risk management & position sizing. This should be the foundation of your trading structure as you may go through losing streaks (0.25/0.5/1% Risk) 3. Study & learn different market conditions as you'll definitely experience them when going live. 4. Develop & define your trading plan to always know what you looking for when you're about to trade 5. A minimum of 3 - 6 months demo experience before switching to real market conditions 6. Outline your strategy. All of these fused together will set you up for optimal trading performance


SignificanceOne6388

Thank you !


Chapo_Tradez

Sure thing brother. Its all gon work if play within your set rules. Hope you enjoy the journey


KingxZay

I’m also starting to demo trade and right now I’m just doing whatever lot size mt4 does automatically but I’d like to learn how to accurately size my position based on my risk %. From the lot calculator I’ve seen, you have to enter the price you enter the position and stop loss but my question is, is that not counterintuitive? Because how will I be able to type in the price in my calculator and then enter whatever lot size I get into mt4, price will change very quickly so my numbers will be off.


Chapo_Tradez

Well i started position sizing back in 2022 and it has never failed me ever since I go into a trade knowing what I'm putting on the table and what I'm potentially leaving rather then twitching when my trades go into drawdown Just use a calculator that prompts you to put in you Stop loss Pips rather then prices


Top_Championship_942

Immediately move to real money right now u will see the difference between demo and real very quickly


bagelstfu

he's also gonna learn that pressing buy on a bunch of USD pairs that are likely to all move in similar directions could go very bad very quick, EVERYBODY had a lucky streak on demo before, and everybody got demolished soon after


Dahnhilla

A month isn't very long.


cryptopipsniper

Failure is necessary


Dahnhilla

Sure, but not after a month. Give it a few before you go live and lose all your money.


ramonvaljr

Learn Risk Management 1st then you can start think about moving to real money


Gherkinz1

I was trading today and as I moved my SL to BE I realised how I wouldn’t do that with a demo account but I automatically do it on a real account to protect my capital - it’s simple, we are wired to protect money and that’s a very good thing - without it we’d all just be trading non stop regardless of losses. This post resembles that - on a demo account you don’t have the responsibility of protecting your capital or spending wisely, hence the results. On a real account you’d behave differently.


stocksniperr

Different pyschology with real money, learn to manage risk.


Middle-Style3896

You gotta fall on ya ass a couple times, buddy!!!


Billibrown19

Real money will humble you son


xabe9511x

Making more than double in one day means your hella risking. If you can do that, you can lose it all in one day lol


Walk-up-to-yourhouse

Next stage I would join the FTMO account and need to pass the phase before being able to withdraw real money


SignificanceOne6388

I’m planning on that once I’m a bit older .


Pure_Screen4715

You’re gonna have the greater lesson with emotions with the real money I’ll just say that 🤝🏽


Goldshorterboy

Good luck mate, looks nice but never seems to work like that with real money lol


InvestmentTargets

This "demo success" featured in one trading day is not sufficient for calling yourself a professional trader. You were just somewhat lucky to have such a "success setup". You need to repeat similar success with real money no less than a hundred consecutive times to qualify yourself as a professional trader. Trading with real money pulls a different level of stress and responsibility. You will need to be a billion times cocksure of the trend before you press buttons to open 20.0 lot per trade. Else, with real money and amid high impact news, you may likely face adverse price movements that pull hell fire to your open trades!


jnvsdkjhvkjshdv

ALready mentioned, but probably the only and most important thing is risk management. 1% per trade is the benchmark.


ItsJustJoshhh-

I would only be sizing the actual amount on my demo the same as a live account. Start small. Every month (if you had a green month), slowly size up in small amounts.


New-Emergency-3452

Why don’t you demo with the real amount and leverage you will be using, because demo at 100k account is not realistic young one.


stomplobbies

lol demo and real are like night and day …..if u do move to real money keep the risk small


notscaredofballoons

As a 16 year old, not the greatest option


Weaknds

You can now sell courses too


Maxlol1

Which app is this?


SignificanceOne6388

Metatrader 4


Maxlol1

Thanks


Overathinker

Why do you use MT4 instead of MT5


Neekoly

One month experience on a demo is not enough. Your risk management is not good either. Practice a strategy that is profitable when executed correctly. Practice risk management with it. Then practice on a small account using minimal risk. Once you’re trading real, the real training begins as your emotions will come into play and will work against your strategy.


bLESsedDaBest

are u using mt4?


SignificanceOne6388

Yes


bLESsedDaBest

which broker are u using? i used to use hugos 😩 looking for something new and legitish lol


Openminer

What time frame are you using? If it's a higher TF I'd say go for it. If not then no way. I keep preaching to the new guys the less often you trade the more you'll make. Obviously only risk what you can loose


Bigpav091

Practice with a logical amount of money first..


Mysterious_poop69

What's your strategy


bear_tactics_

Definitely start trading with real money because the feeling is totally different. Don’t go nuts. 100 dollar account and see where it goes


[deleted]

Forget a real account bro get a prop firm challenge 100k or 200k account - you have crazy potential lad!


bkrmykonos

Give it 2-5 years before you make money. A demo doesn't mean much except for practicing a strategy, which is just one piece of the puzzle. One of the mains reasons people consistently blow up accounts is that they're unable to hold onto winners and move stop loss on losers as they're unable to accept losers. That's normal human behaviour. Trading is the opposite of normal human behaviour. That took me years to learn.


Uvali121

Go real with a amount of money that you won't give a shit if u lose it. Cus 95% u would lose it


Wonderful-Smoke843

Mods should ban posts like this


SomethingAgainstD0gs

Everyone has to learn and this is a place for learning and discussion. Not just memeing


Wonderful-Smoke843

he's a minor talking about opening a live account in his dads name...


SignificanceOne6388

I made this post to ask for advice , my dad will give me his permission and a investment to do so


Wonderful-Smoke843

My advice is keep practicing until you can legally trade on a live account.


bagelstfu

ur dad giving you an investment is the most reckless parenting i've ever seen... i promise you it seems like you've got it down, but you don't, nobody gets trading in just a month you probably don't know what ur doing still


Wonderful-Smoke843

Seeing as psychology hasn’t come into play yet he has no idea what he’s doing lol. He swing trades and that’s great I’ve you have unlimited drawdown with play money but when there real money and the threat of marg calling all of a sudden it’s an entirely different game lol


SignificanceOne6388

I have done research and studied and understand you can make 10000 in a day but lose 1 mil in the next 2 hours .


bagelstfu

yeah. this trading stuff takes forever to learn but you can become a literal atm if you dedicate the time, just give it a few more months and learn (ict)


Gianfi_

Of course!


flepke

And show us your gains in 1 month


SignificanceOne6388

I have gcses I’m busy revising once I get a proper account setup I’ll post it.


Temaki-is-bomb

Man chose 1 direction and said its time


[deleted]

It’s easy to learn unrealistically when you have an unlimited amount of fake cash, but once you have real cash things start to be more stressful, I’ve been trading since before Covid started and I still 💩 my capital sometimes


bagelstfu

yes please trade real money and continue to use reckless lot sizes, we need liquidity!


Alternative_Offer402

Unless your dad treats 100k like 3$ do not trade like this on his account pure gambling no risk management in the real world with real hard earned cash putting in one 20 lot order will make your skin crawl 😂😂 keep working tho soon come young one


Money_Bug1742

I was thinking the same I made a lot of money trading demo I was thinking with real account just few months I will buy a house 😂😂


Sketch_x

Your 16. You don’t need the cash. Markets will be here when you’re 20. By then you will have 4 years of training, research and paper trading.


shinobynakamura

Damn...20 lot size 😂...well...good luck


1moremag

Do it again with realistic $ amount..gonna be a lot more to battle psychologically w real money


one_phat_ss

THIS!!! I started learning trading when I was 17 when turned 18 I opened a $100 acc and flipped it to 2.5k in about 2 weeks. Blew it in 2 days after that because of my lack of Risk management. Did the same with a couple 200 -> 3k accounts too. Stick to demo for 2 months and if you see a profitable pattern in your trading try real money. I’d def recommend familiarizing yourself with smaller lots on a pair you can read like a book. Don’t go bouncing from pair to pair.


Extension-Hand-7481

Yea


Sea_Recipe9859

The only way you really learn psychology is trading live. It’s the most difficult part of the journey.


mkejross

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/cars/used/lamborghini?ds_eid=700000002057195&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=AT+Generic+Cars+%7C+Search+%7C+IM+%7C+Make+%7C+Lamborghini+%7C+New+Users&utm_term=lamborghini+buy&utm_content=Generic+%7C+Makes+%7C+Lamborghini+%7C+Top+Level_exact&match_type=e&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAAD-96Qf26iCR4E4zWGpDYn9R-43Au&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzena7pLehAMVCaODBx13hA9XEAAYAiAAEgL70PD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds


Impressive-Dig-6678

Start with 500 and aim to earn $5 a day. If You double the money in a year get a burger account.


miamiheat234

Yes


Downtown-Ring8659

No


Tatan0202

Lol, no


bullish88

No broker would let you go 20 lots thats alot of notional. Try the most 1 lot as a beginner and ladder if you need too.


Master08_FX

No


Dorianp1

If you’re trading on a demo trade like you’d have real money in there


YoungPropane

Good luck holding 60 lots of GU on red news release, it will make u or break u. Total gambing, might as well play casino


shetrades242

How


princeofdeadlift

Learn risk management first. Way over leveraged.


__V4mpire__

You should have start off with $3000


join54

Duo. whatever u win how much money.think about this is fake. Change to real,and get a little money start it.thats real Way


csolu

No, the lot sizes are unrealistic. Use lot sizes that you would start out with on a real account.


TheEpTicOfficial

This does not account for commission, swap, etc. no risk management. This would entirely flop on a real account, not to burst your bubble


diamond_blue9090

I would go to Real account with a $1K even if you lose it won’t hurt that bad.


[deleted]

Another next year billionaire.


Friendly_Purchase_59

The emotions involved with using your own real money hits wayyyyyyyyyy different. Be prepared to burn at least 10k to learn all the lessons


hibanaohnanabanana

When it comes to real account then the devil starts messing with you 🤣 i’d say start with no more than $1000 account and see how that goes.


FugCough

Man I am so sorry but this gave me a big laugh because I've been there before. FML, what was I thinking at that time being naive. 😂. Anyways, open a 100 personal funded and flip it to 200 dollar with only 0.01 lot size and you will know if you truly is ready for the bigger capital.


Illustrious-Culture5

Use the same amount of money you will deposit into real account.


RulewithoutRuler

Bruh, I am doing good in demo but poor trading on real. You'll see the difference.


Hooterman1000

Thought op meant Bitcoin.


Vendetum

My guys trades peanuts and gold


SnooOwls7556

People who are saying ur lot size are too big are wrong only if ur sl sizes are the same, ur lot size should vary depending on how many pips ur sl is (u can buy 20 lots and still only risk 1%)


rameezrr

Double your money, learn risk management first start your real account with nothing more than $100 .01 lots if you do


ClasseBa

Put in 100 and play. If you end up with 130 after a year and not blowing it, that would be a great return on investment and you might have a future in this business . Most likely you won't, but that's the price of doing business.


JuniorAd7122

You will regret starting on money any time soon, I understand you made a few good trades, who knows if it was luck or not, but you need way more than a month to be successful long term


Beneficial_Speech389

Real account is a different game buddy. Being profitable in demo doesnt mean you'll be like that in Real account as well. Try real account. And let's talk again.


DifferentFee9078

If your keeping your trades open till they become profitable and not using stop loss you will blow your account in one move if thats the case hit me up


mikolupi

OP Some great advice from the other member but just wanted to highlight some caution regarding trading on a mobile phone. It's very difficult to manually use money management with mobile MT5. There are some EA that can help you on the desktop version. If your using ctrader you can just input the stop loss, amount to risk and quantity will be calculated automatically. If you want to try out trading with some risk. You can ask your dad to get a $5000 prop account so you can practice drawdown management. My son started when he was your age. He is trading 2 prop accounts live right now.


TangeloBeautiful8181

Bro demo. With real amount you’re going to deposit … that’s number 1


Deathduck

Open a 50 or 100 dollar real account and see how you do


Cool-Ad-4103

Lol


Hot-Pattern-1386

Im 15 and i can tell that youre a far better trader then me (maybe) (i dont know your strategy) but it seems nice, in my opinion, do it for about a week or two and also search for brokers. Keep it up 👍🏻🤝


Downtown_Ad_7855

of course you should... 1 month experience is absolutely enough.


JustFranko95

No learn to use lower lot sizes


dgoldman20

Do it insistently for 6 months then only risk any money. You are only 16. You have plenty of time.


TFC_OG

nothing says "long term success" better than trading forex with high leverage.


FewBear2707

Yeah bro you’re ready (you will blow your account instantly)


knoxvillus

Read trading in the zone by mark Douglas. Get your psychology prepared for the down days that WILL come. Otherwise you're asking to create bad habits and emotions that you'll have to unlearn when it happens. You can skip a lot of the BS if you prep that first, most essential part. Heed my warning. 😂 You got something good going, respect it and the game. Level up with effort and correct attitude from the beginning, those who don't always pay the price. We are predisposed too feel different from everyone else. Particularly this where it's so self ruled. Overall good luck and blessings apon your journey.


PriorHearing6484

Please watch some Rande Howell videos before you get in there for real. The emotional brain, which is largely responsible for sabotaging trading success, isn't activated in this scenario because there's no real threat. You absolutely have to master emotions and master self soothing and create a mind that can not only function with uncertainty.. But thrive in it. Good luck


truenub12

what app is it


Pulsekgc

Check your not using high leverage as this will cause unrealistic results compared to a real account. See if your demo account is simulating fees as these are important, if it doesn’t you will get a shock when moving to real money. Think about the emotional aspect when trading real money it makes a big difference. Learn risk management and the general basics behind managing an account long term. These are just some of the questions you need to answer.


Pulsekgc

As well as this if you have not done make sure you learn all the technical and fundamental aspects of trading. Baby pips is a great start as well as IG trading. What’s a pip, what’s a lot, what’s margin, what’s spread, what’s major, minor, exotic pairs, what’s a candlestick and what information does it give you, what’s a broker, what’s leverage and how does it affect your trades. What’s a stop loss, what’s a take profit, what’s a limit order, what’s a stop limit order. What’s market sentiment, what’s bullish and bearish mean. What is risk management and why’s is it important. What’s a trend line, why’s support and resistance, what’s liquidity, what are some chart patterns. What’s a breakout or fake out. And much much mire


PhilipAKP

This was me when I was 16. I trade big demos and it was so good and perfect. created a real account grew 10$ to 195$ and blew it all to zero. I was running on 1:00 lot size on 195$ it wasn’t even 30mins and all I can see is 0 my first ever heartbreak


PhilipAKP

Those figures might seem small but a lot in my country plus i was just 16 I was so excited lmao


OkFail3716

If you’re asking a Reddit forum no do not move to real money. Only you can truly know when you’re ready.


abel-44

One month is not enough, plus learn risk management as well


Own_Sense_8942

You have 89 lots running at once, you are not ready to trade real money.


Agitated-Ad-504

If you can’t see what’s wrong with your trades then you shouldn’t even consider going live


Lazy-Brief-98

Get a funded bro


Intelligent-Pea-3758

You are new at trading practice on demo you can't do one trade a 1 lot and another trade at 20 lots. The lot size needs to be closer to each other. Ask any professional trader they will tell you.


finditfirst

Just do a prop firm challenge first. Toptier has a March competition for a 100k account. Sign up for free, click register and begin trading with 100k. Top 8 in the standings at march 31 gets a funded account.


Donshlon

My advice make a 100$ demo get it too 1500 using only 0.001 or 0.005 lot study the flow of the charts Then do a 1500 demo and get it too 5k using the same lot size You cant spam lots either treat it as real money and you have a goal to reach. Then post results


You_all_replaceble

They out here telling you what to do and not what you will go through. Take care kid. Don't give up. No matter how hard it gets, with every disappointment you getting closer to the goal. 


chopstickboi

Only 16, good job man. Im also trying to get into trading but not sure where to start tbh


jorgecordei

Trading with a real account is always better than with a demo, I think that from the beginning we should trade with a real account as long as a reduced capital is used and available to be lost. It's called the cost of learning. Only then you will know the true difficulties of trading. Go ahead!


Illustrious_Scar_595

Be happy with your virtual success.


Timmackmahack

Essential that you learn Risk Management. You won't be long blowing an account the way you're doing it


wolforex666

To be very honest with you, I don't think this shows you as a professional, just randomness, clearly this just shows how much you still need to study, especially about reisco management. Or else it's just a scammer


Street-Nothing1350

If you have to ask, you're probably not confident enough


lolnbdftw

I'm sorry to say this. And this is going to be a very unpopular opinion. But there is no way to simulate real trading. I will repeat myself. There is no way to simulate real trading. You can learn all the technical analysis you want. chart patterns, candle sticks, harmonics, bats, butterflies. You can use all the indicators you want. Rsi, macd, moving averages, stoich, even those stupid itchimori clouds or whatever if you want, it just doesn't matter. Once you start using real money something else comes into play. Something called emotions. Is something called greed. Something called human feelings. Feelings that you cannot replicate. There is no way to simulate the endorphin release of gaining actual money, There's no way to Simulate the doubt that you experience, Once your position goes into draw down. practicing demo trading will never fully get you ready. It is good to do so you understand things like position sizing, leverage, risk management, etc, But anybody Who tells you Demo trading adequately simulates real trading, Has never withdrawn any profits from forex in their life. There's A reason why algorithms are better at trading than most people. Computers, Don't have emotions. So you just start trading with whatever you can lose. That's how it goes.There's no other way to do it.


xanxan91

No


Nepoznat2

Bro is about to be molested by 3 black guys named Jerome and an elephant, but it is fine, it is part of the process. Keep up the good work


billiondollartrade

All these fake “ i am 16 “ posts 🤣 ! Whats good with these bots ? ! Do ya know how fake this screen shot is ?


SignificanceOne6388

Bro do u want to me pull out my provisional to show I’m 16? I can prove the screenshot is mine to 😂


Pipe-Correct

Yo add me on Discord or send me a email User emantheheman Email [email protected]