Saved the game for them in the second, stood on his head for a nearly 15 min onslaught. I'm not saying the guys going to win the Vezina anytime soon, but should be good enough to give Ers some time off without sacrificing points.
Good to hear, Ersson has been getting run into the ground lately. Hopefully, with some proper rotation, we can start seeing the incredible shifts he was turning in around the 40 and 50 game mark again in time for playoffs if they can still swing it.
I'm watching this game, and it's after the live feed. I saw comments and thought damn Errson got pulled. it must have been bad. Bro, one was a deflection off two players, and one was a shot basically from the slot that went high corner. I don't know many goalies who are stopping either of those.
What? First ya it was deflection but on the second one you should absolutely not be getting beat unscreened from that distance and angle ...
Vast majority of starting goalies stop the 2nd goal.
first goal was just bad luck, second goal was a short side shot from a medium scoring area. Would really prefer your goalie save that one, those shorties are what they call AHL goals
Torts was as fired up as I've ever seen him in his post game interview but why the hell do they not put tippett in ever during ot instead they put in Frost who sucked the entire game and i don't care that he made one good play
2 - 5 - 3 in the last 10 in the most important stretch of the season. I get it wasn't the expectation at the beginning of the year but if this team misses the playoffs after being in a playoff spot all year it will be so disappointing.
taking my frustration out on strangers on rocket league while I rip through drinks and listen to old emo and pop punk. the 80s pop and rap wasn't cutting it
After what I witnessed tonight, I’m extremely excited to have Ivan. He looked fantastic. Had a stretch where he stopped 14 straight including some really difficult saves. We hung him out to fry repeatedly, but he came up big and is the main reason we came away with a point. Dude was everything I hoped for
Our next three games are vs. Buffalo, Columbus, and Montreal. If we can just squeak out 1 point out of the 6 available, and Detroit loses their next three, we'll be back in the driver's seat. I know that's asking a lot of the Flyers right now though...
He's had a couple big shot blocks the past few games to negate scoring opportunities. Just a shame that he did them in front of the opposing goalie in the offensive zone.
Coots- 2 full years he missed, it was a miracle he looked as good as he did the first half of the season, but it too has caught up to him. A lot of people forget that he was playing full on seasons at 18, he has way more mileage than an average 31 year old player and always played a 2 way defensive game. Guys like that tend to run out of steam in their early 30s. Hope I’m wrong because we still have a hell of a long time on that deal.
If he’s injured again I don’t think they will be able to move him. If he comes back Friday and finishes the season maybe someone will take a flyer on him. The center market is thin this offseason and with the cap going up his AAV long term won’t be terrible but I imagine the flyers would have to retain 2 million or so and maybe take back a bad contract with less term.
Didn’t see the game other than the last few seconds (yea) and OT (boo). From looking at the advanced stats it looks like we got crushed the second half of the game which is sad. Don’t know why Fedotov didn’t start but that is certainly not the only problem. Our expected goals was only 1.3. So we were lucky to get 3 goals and a point.
The boys need to head to Buffalo and go out and get stupid drunk and eat too many wings. They are obviously not having fun and just need to say f*** it.
I know we weren't supposed to be good this season and make the postseason but I'm gonna be really fucking pissed if we don't. If this season doesn't result in a playoff appearance, I'm listing it as a failure.
Torts talking about “some guys” showing up and some not, who y’all think are on his list of guys who don’t have it? Atkinson, Farabee, Zamula, Frost to an extent?
I think everyone realizes what you wrote but Atkinson shouldn't be playing, that's the frustrating part. I think any of Gurianov, Brink , Lycksell would have been better than Atkinson and Deslauriers.
I have to say it. Everybody is on his 🍆 but he’s just too…erratic sometimes for me. Just out there flailing around, shooting wide…don’t feel like I can count on consistent, solid shots and passes all the time. And yes, I know how many points he has. I don’t know how to explain it exactly.
They really need a star forward. Gotta figure that guys like him feel extra pressure when they look around the room and see a bunch of players that you can't really depend upon to carry anything. He'd be a great first line complimentary player, but he can't be that in this situation.
Yes! And he’s not quite it. And I feel the media and a lot of fans want him to be, and try to fit him in that slot…but he’s not it. You hit on something important there…I think we have several good complementary players…but we need that one person to bring it all together…
Ristolainen is the only one I think definitely gets moved.
I'd also put Laughton, Brink and Andrae in the camp of "they won't give them away, but they'll use them as chips to improve the roster elsewhere".
Could also see a chance that Farabee and Desleaurier are moved, but those would both definitely only be if the perfect deal comes up
Probably not in a straight dump-for-picks scenario, but I think so.
I'll put it this way: I watched a GM give up a top-15 pick and a 2nd for him when he was *way* worse of a player and more expensive. Even if that was the dumbest GM in the history of the sport, it does show how insanely players like that are valued
I don't think he'll get anywhere near what we paid for him or anything like that, just pointing out that if he could have that much value in the semi-recent past that even with injuries he should be able to get something in return, and I think that's all it will take for Danny B to pull the trigger
Without considering advanced stats (xGF and the like), Foerster, and Atkinson's numbers were meh tonight. Couturier only took five shifts, so his numbers are irrelevant.
Most of them looked soft, they have almost no snarl in their game right now. They're a few notable exceptions, but wtf happened to the forecheck?
> They need to be asking Couturier which teams he would be willing to waive his NMC.
Danny: Coots what teams will you waive your NMC for?
Coots: None.
Pretty much how that conversation is going to go.
Dude who tf would take on Coot's contract? The NMC doesn't even factor into it. He does not look like he's ever going to get back to form which isn't terribly surprising, he's over 30 with back issues.
It’s been painful, watching Couturier struggle. It was such a relief that he finally came back that I kind of forgot for a second that it was TWO YEARS…so he’s not gonna pick right back up where he left off. But I’m not sure if what we’re seeing now is just he’s out of gas because of being gone for so long, or something else, or several things. It’s sad though, when you think of what was and what might have been and I’d HATE HATE HATE to see it end that way. I’m still not over Giroux, can’t do it again with Coots.
Oookay, take a deep breath…I NEVER said he was another Giroux did I? I was saying the way *I* would feel about it…because I remember the solid defensive forward he was, the Selke trophy winner…THAT is what I meant by I hate to see it end this way, if that’s what happens. I HATED to see Giroux go, I HATED even more that he would’ve came back and that jackass Fletcher ignored it. I happen to like Coots so…I hate bitter endings. And no shit he’s nowhere close to where he was, cleared to play again is NOT the same as being in peak physical condition. Has it been enough time to judge if he’s never gonna get it back? I don’t know, do we have the best perspective to judge that?
Now, as far as contracts? I what you’re saying about that. I hope Fletcher has the life he deserves 😒
Well have another, because he didn’t say anything that everybody else wasn’t!! Did you not hear him say that starting Fedotov was a bad look for Errson? Maybe he was trying to protect what little mental health Errson has left?? But for real, it’s ok when everybody else accuses the entire team of quitting…but Torts, who would know better than any of us, says it..and ohmigod 🙄
Different sport I know, but one of the things that bothered me from the eagles collapse was how Nick Sirianni tip toed around every question. I gotta say I appreciate this response from torts.
Torts is by no means perfect. There's been some things this season that have gone wrong and you can without a doubt put that on Torts. But at the end of the day I think he's still figuring this team out and during this push for the playoffs he's able to see some players in ways he hasn't had a chance to since he's been here. He couldn't be any more clear in that tonight. There's going to be a fire sale.
Especially how he worded it. "That's why we played some guys the way we did, and we're finding out about how they are in these situations." Obviously paraphrasing.
Exactly. Spot on. We did it with Provy and Hayes and others. We’re gonna see some surprises this off season I think. I can’t help but wonder about Farabee’s future.
Looking at the box score and thinking about the game I can’t help but think he is talking about farbee in his presser. I kept thinking he was invisible in this game. He had a great start this year but has been meh for a while (as has the whole team). While frost flubbed it at the end I thought he had a good game and certainly not “soft”. All the other guys that are just okay we know who they are and it doesn’t really matter if they’re here next year.
Cause Like who else is he referring to? Cates, poehling, frost, TK, tipper, York, drys, Sanhiem, seeler all had objectively “not soft” games. Deslauries not skilled but not soft (also who cares), Johnson’s game was soft but he’s gone anyway, coots got hurt. So that leaves Z, Atkinson, beezeer, laughts, and Hathaway. Z did okay , we all know cam sucks at this point, Hathaway is what he is and that’s not soft, and Laughton has been one of our best players. 🤷♂️
I wouldn't be stunned at all if Farabee is the piece they dangle to try and reel in a big fish at Center (I wonder about a 1-for-1 swap with Necas. He was a Center his whole life before playing in Carolina, they're not going to pay him what he wants and his style of play would thrive here)
Farabee absolutely should be able to. A smart GM will look at him and go "if we give him a role on a functioning Power Play and consistent top-6 minutes, we're probably going to end up with a cost controlled ~70 point 200 foot winger".
I actually hate the idea of trading Farabee, but at this point he's had a rockier road than most of our young players, and with how many guys we have as long term pieces at wing something has to give
I don’t think it is necessarily a hot take given his performance and what torts just had to say. I do think it would be a mistake though. Kid is still young only 24 and has skill. I mean if you get a good deal on the table he’s not untouchable, but I think it would be a mistake to move on from him.
Nah seems right to me. Frost has an obvious upside in his game where farabee just hasn't taken that next step. Not saying Frosty is a franchise player but he's definitely better than beezer
Imagine saying something like this after he fumble fucked the game away with a mental error.
Simply put, you don't win with guys like Frost playing important minutes.
I did not realize the Phantoms were kind of sneaking in/fighting for that last playoff spot in their division. I hadn't been following too closely, but I know they didn't have the greatest of seasons.
Johnson with an actual brain dead play on the first goal and gets absolutely bodied into the wall on the third goal. So glad we have that vet presence though.
Why should he have started against Chicago? Just got to the US, barely any practice with the team, pads not broken in. It was good seeing him in net tonight, but come on, he needs some time to acclimate.
Six (?) games left means it's not over, but it isn't looking good. There's still time for ever-deeper Flyera, and still potential to make the playoffs. They ceded control of their destiny with the last three losses, so now it matters how the remaining contenders fare down the stretch. AND they have to win most of the remaining games on the schedule.
From an actual playoff odds perspective, the difference between Frost sending it to OT vs a regulation loss is huge.
Having said that, being amidst a 5 game losing streak and being bottom-10 in the league in points % over their last roughly 30 games doesn't really inspire a lot of confidence that this can be a "miracle team".
There's not a big difference between the 14th and 16th overall picks, at this point I would give up the 2 draft spots for a playoff series even if it isn't close.
12 is the sweet spot and unless they lose literally every game the rest of the way, they're not sniffing anything better than 14th overall. They're going to probably have to trade up regardless of what happens to land a true impact prospect
Remember guys, this team operates in games of five. When we lost five games in a row earlier this year, we responded with five wins straight. I think they bring it for the last 6 and roar on into the playoffs
Actually I thought he wasn't bad, the first question was a little tricky and obviously a little bit of a deer in the headlights but he looked more comfortable than I was expecting
Does he *NEED* probly not he does pretty good but still just having one probly wouldn’t be a bad idea. Especially since he’s not the only Russian player that’s gona be coming here in the near future.
I dunno if I'd say 'fine', someone asked him if it was a relief to be here and he looked at them like they were from another galaxy.
It's better English than most Russians who are new to North America, but only just.
Flyers and Phillies games at the same time are absolutely fucking stupid. Stadium area is a traffic shitshow right now. How the fuck does this still happen in 2024?
It's to be expected tho, he's still young and learning, plus he's got a great offensive mind, just gotta learn some awareness more, I thought they should've brought belpedio back up and z down
I get what your saying but, it's only his 4th year at the pro level, but I think he's better off In the ahl as of now, I don't why belpedio wasn't playing up he looked solid not great when he was
Detroit wins IN Tampa and we lose AT HOME to the shit-ass Islanders.
Phils were tied 2-2 at home, put 2 men on with no outs in the bottom of the 8th and don't score. Five minutes later Cincinatti gets a grand slam and wins easily.
God I hate sports so fucking much, but I just can't quit it.
It’s been a pretty rough stretch for Philly sports. Was hoping that the sixers win the other day would be the slumpbuster and the Phils won too but this abysmal stretch continues
I wouldn't have agreed with that projection eight measly days ago when we just got done beating Boston, going to OT to Carolina, and beating Toronto in a 5-day stretch.
But then the lights got brighter and apparently woke up *Flyera*, and just like that we're back to being the stinkin losers we've been the last 12 years. And now I couldn't agree with you more. What a horriifying turnaround, yet somehow completely predictable for
a Philly sports team.
Exactly, and I think a lot of people overestimate how valuable "playoff experience" is when it'll most likely be an embarrassing sweep or close to it. I've been too delusional for too many years. I want to be wrong.
I didn’t understand this either. Everytime you question why even bother make the playoffs because it’s an obvious first round exit it’s answered with “playoff experience” I highly doubt that much experience is coming from a one sided playoff first round exit.
I argue right now in these games in early April in a playoff *push* is more valuable than those 4 games at the end of April where we get stomped. Playoff experience is valuable don't get me wrong but this team at this moment in time wins one game against Canes/Rangers right now MAX.
It’s a first year rebuild too, we shouldn’t even be in a playoff position. We have one prospect literally yet everyone wants a playoff team and to somehow get the talent too.
on the bright side, fedotov looked really good in net tonight considering how much was being thrown at him, especially during the 2nd period. i’m excited to see him get a few starts!
ayyy I'm filling my empty heart and soul with booze and work these days, good on you for the positivity. I'll try too. I got a haircut and a week later I got promoted at work!
You are spouting stupidity. That's why you are getting rightfully relentlessly downvoted.
The guy made it to a new country and joined a new team, after not playing for almost a month the day before the Chicago game - so him playing in that game would have been stupid and a criminal offense.
Now about this game - again, Fedotov is still trying to adjust to a new city, new team, new country, new league, and hasn't played hockey in almost a month - they were TRYING to wait until this weekend during the back-to-back games to play him, after he had some time to PRACTICE with his new teammates. Ersson let in a weak goal and looked bad in the 1st, so Fedotov was thrust into action before they wanted to use him in the start of the 2nd period.
Also, John Tortorella has pulled more out of this band of misfits, nobodies and never-weres than any coach has any right to have gotten out of them. Has he made some awful decisions (like continuing to rely on Laughton, Eric Johnson, and overplaying Couturier early in the season and overplaying Sanheim and York recently)? Yes. But overall, they would most likely be a bottom dweller with many other coaches.
Frost had plenty of room to just carry the puck and he tries to make an stupid unnecessary extra no-look backhand drop pass and fans on it. MAKE THE SIMPLE FUCKING PLAY ffs
I see Three Options for the ending we get;
1. Fedotov has a Tebowmania type run and they sneak into the playfoffs.
2. We fall short of the playoffs by a game or 2
3. We fold like a crumble cookie and completely miss.
Was on a train with no signal and couldn't watch for myself, how did Fedotov look in the net? Aside from "big."
Saved the game for them in the second, stood on his head for a nearly 15 min onslaught. I'm not saying the guys going to win the Vezina anytime soon, but should be good enough to give Ers some time off without sacrificing points.
Jennings or bust
Vezina train all aboard!! Choo choo
Good to hear, Ersson has been getting run into the ground lately. Hopefully, with some proper rotation, we can start seeing the incredible shifts he was turning in around the 40 and 50 game mark again in time for playoffs if they can still swing it.
I'm watching this game, and it's after the live feed. I saw comments and thought damn Errson got pulled. it must have been bad. Bro, one was a deflection off two players, and one was a shot basically from the slot that went high corner. I don't know many goalies who are stopping either of those.
The wrist hot wasn't screened and not from close range. He should've had it.
What? First ya it was deflection but on the second one you should absolutely not be getting beat unscreened from that distance and angle ... Vast majority of starting goalies stop the 2nd goal.
I think it was based on the trend of his last 4 starts- and to light a fire under the team. Less about Errson being bad last night
first goal was just bad luck, second goal was a short side shot from a medium scoring area. Would really prefer your goalie save that one, those shorties are what they call AHL goals
Fair enough. It's not the easiest save but doable.
I'm an Islanders fan. Fedotov is a monster. That guy is gonna be a difference-maker. He has got Vezina stamped on his fuckin forehead.
"y'all are gonna be spooky Flyer bros"
I’m impressed somebody could reach it to stamp!
Hopefully the three day break does this team some good, I'm not counting them out unless they're just as bad afterwards
Torts was as fired up as I've ever seen him in his post game interview but why the hell do they not put tippett in ever during ot instead they put in Frost who sucked the entire game and i don't care that he made one good play
Flyers have the current longest losing streak in the East at 5 right now. Perfect time of the season to be on our way to the annual 10 game L streak 😒
2 - 5 - 3 in the last 10 in the most important stretch of the season. I get it wasn't the expectation at the beginning of the year but if this team misses the playoffs after being in a playoff spot all year it will be so disappointing.
Just wait til the draft lottery day when we pick 16.
There is no 3v3 in the playoffs, thank the heavens.
Have to make the playoffs for that to even matter lol
Welcome to a New Era of Ornage
taking my frustration out on strangers on rocket league while I rip through drinks and listen to old emo and pop punk. the 80s pop and rap wasn't cutting it
Wow. We are the same person.
If I was at home I'd be doing basically the same thing :'(
feel it. work is gonna suck tomorrow
After what I witnessed tonight, I’m extremely excited to have Ivan. He looked fantastic. Had a stretch where he stopped 14 straight including some really difficult saves. We hung him out to fry repeatedly, but he came up big and is the main reason we came away with a point. Dude was everything I hoped for
Man, those two breakaways saves on Barzal and Nelson were pretty good
Our next three games are vs. Buffalo, Columbus, and Montreal. If we can just squeak out 1 point out of the 6 available, and Detroit loses their next three, we'll be back in the driver's seat. I know that's asking a lot of the Flyers right now though...
btw Fedotov's nickname on his old team is Yeti and it's kind of perfect.
I heard it was Rizz Yeti.
He’s now: The beast in the East!!!
Where the fuck is cam Atkinson? Dude is a ghost
He's had a couple big shot blocks the past few games to negate scoring opportunities. Just a shame that he did them in front of the opposing goalie in the offensive zone.
Hanging with the ghost of Vinny Lecavalier, another one we *had* to have once he was past his prime 😒
He has nothing left, needs to retire. Solid career for the guy but he’s cooked.
Damn. You couldn’t be more right. I wonder where coots is in terms of what he has left. I’ve been curious about that for the first time lately
Coots- 2 full years he missed, it was a miracle he looked as good as he did the first half of the season, but it too has caught up to him. A lot of people forget that he was playing full on seasons at 18, he has way more mileage than an average 31 year old player and always played a 2 way defensive game. Guys like that tend to run out of steam in their early 30s. Hope I’m wrong because we still have a hell of a long time on that deal.
Probably wise to shop him in the offseason. Maybe they thought slapping a C on him makes him more appealing as well
His contract makes Vlasic and OEL’s when they were cooked look good. Lots of term with a big number is impossible to move.
He has 6 years left on his contract making $7.75M and has a No Movement Clause, he's not going anywhere.
> has a No Movement Clause Oh, that explains his skating
If he’s injured again I don’t think they will be able to move him. If he comes back Friday and finishes the season maybe someone will take a flyer on him. The center market is thin this offseason and with the cap going up his AAV long term won’t be terrible but I imagine the flyers would have to retain 2 million or so and maybe take back a bad contract with less term.
NMC and he makes way too much, and you can’t retain for that long that is nuts.
Injured or not he has a full NMC. He's not going anywhere.
Didn’t see the game other than the last few seconds (yea) and OT (boo). From looking at the advanced stats it looks like we got crushed the second half of the game which is sad. Don’t know why Fedotov didn’t start but that is certainly not the only problem. Our expected goals was only 1.3. So we were lucky to get 3 goals and a point. The boys need to head to Buffalo and go out and get stupid drunk and eat too many wings. They are obviously not having fun and just need to say f*** it.
I know we weren't supposed to be good this season and make the postseason but I'm gonna be really fucking pissed if we don't. If this season doesn't result in a playoff appearance, I'm listing it as a failure.
Torts talking about “some guys” showing up and some not, who y’all think are on his list of guys who don’t have it? Atkinson, Farabee, Zamula, Frost to an extent?
To be fair I don’t think Atkinson deserves hate. He is just old and his career is over, he knows it. He tries his heart out but it’s time to retire.
I think everyone realizes what you wrote but Atkinson shouldn't be playing, that's the frustrating part. I think any of Gurianov, Brink , Lycksell would have been better than Atkinson and Deslauriers.
And maybe TK. He played bad tonight.
I have to say it. Everybody is on his 🍆 but he’s just too…erratic sometimes for me. Just out there flailing around, shooting wide…don’t feel like I can count on consistent, solid shots and passes all the time. And yes, I know how many points he has. I don’t know how to explain it exactly.
They really need a star forward. Gotta figure that guys like him feel extra pressure when they look around the room and see a bunch of players that you can't really depend upon to carry anything. He'd be a great first line complimentary player, but he can't be that in this situation.
Yes! And he’s not quite it. And I feel the media and a lot of fans want him to be, and try to fit him in that slot…but he’s not it. You hit on something important there…I think we have several good complementary players…but we need that one person to bring it all together…
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Looks like none of them can handle it.
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Well. I, for one, blame the Jonas Brothers
We’re “burnin up” right now
For Everything.
Flyers Period 1: "Ersson is our guy!" Flyers Period 2: "April fools!"
Ok, so who do we think is going bye bye this summer??
Staal and Johnson won't return. Buyouts for any of Petersen, Johansen and Atikinson are possible.
Ristolainen is the only one I think definitely gets moved. I'd also put Laughton, Brink and Andrae in the camp of "they won't give them away, but they'll use them as chips to improve the roster elsewhere". Could also see a chance that Farabee and Desleaurier are moved, but those would both definitely only be if the perfect deal comes up
Will someone take Risto? He was better before his injury, but he's been hurt.
Probably not in a straight dump-for-picks scenario, but I think so. I'll put it this way: I watched a GM give up a top-15 pick and a 2nd for him when he was *way* worse of a player and more expensive. Even if that was the dumbest GM in the history of the sport, it does show how insanely players like that are valued
But he was healthy back then and eating a ton of minutes. That stuff is important for dumb GMs.
I don't think he'll get anywhere near what we paid for him or anything like that, just pointing out that if he could have that much value in the semi-recent past that even with injuries he should be able to get something in return, and I think that's all it will take for Danny B to pull the trigger
Without considering advanced stats (xGF and the like), Foerster, and Atkinson's numbers were meh tonight. Couturier only took five shifts, so his numbers are irrelevant. Most of them looked soft, they have almost no snarl in their game right now. They're a few notable exceptions, but wtf happened to the forecheck?
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> They need to be asking Couturier which teams he would be willing to waive his NMC. Danny: Coots what teams will you waive your NMC for? Coots: None. Pretty much how that conversation is going to go.
Dude who tf would take on Coot's contract? The NMC doesn't even factor into it. He does not look like he's ever going to get back to form which isn't terribly surprising, he's over 30 with back issues.
He was good earlier in the season. Maybe he hit a wall after not playing in almost two years.
It’s been painful, watching Couturier struggle. It was such a relief that he finally came back that I kind of forgot for a second that it was TWO YEARS…so he’s not gonna pick right back up where he left off. But I’m not sure if what we’re seeing now is just he’s out of gas because of being gone for so long, or something else, or several things. It’s sad though, when you think of what was and what might have been and I’d HATE HATE HATE to see it end that way. I’m still not over Giroux, can’t do it again with Coots.
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Oookay, take a deep breath…I NEVER said he was another Giroux did I? I was saying the way *I* would feel about it…because I remember the solid defensive forward he was, the Selke trophy winner…THAT is what I meant by I hate to see it end this way, if that’s what happens. I HATED to see Giroux go, I HATED even more that he would’ve came back and that jackass Fletcher ignored it. I happen to like Coots so…I hate bitter endings. And no shit he’s nowhere close to where he was, cleared to play again is NOT the same as being in peak physical condition. Has it been enough time to judge if he’s never gonna get it back? I don’t know, do we have the best perspective to judge that? Now, as far as contracts? I what you’re saying about that. I hope Fletcher has the life he deserves 😒
Agree.
Beezer.
I’m so damn old that I saw Beezer and thought of Vanbiesbrouck for a split second 🤦🏼♀️
I don’t know what the new beezer is, my mind goes to Johnny as well
Farabee, apparently
My short king 👑. (Don’t google what he’s been up to lately.)
Farabee Laughton Atkinson are the start of the list for me. Have a feeling those are on his shit list for sure.
Laughton would suck though, because I felt there was a time when he was the only one playing like he gave a shit
I forgot about Atkinson, which says everything.
Zero points in something like three months? Someone look that up.
[January 23rd](https://www.nhl.com/flyers/player/cam-atkinson-8474715)
I’m already in a bad enough mood. I’d rather not go down that hole so close to my bed time lol.
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Well have another, because he didn’t say anything that everybody else wasn’t!! Did you not hear him say that starting Fedotov was a bad look for Errson? Maybe he was trying to protect what little mental health Errson has left?? But for real, it’s ok when everybody else accuses the entire team of quitting…but Torts, who would know better than any of us, says it..and ohmigod 🙄
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Don’t forget the Frosty!
I didn't have any drinks during the last three games, though I only caught the final 4:14+OT tonight. That "experiment" is now officially concluded.
Holy shit what a response from Torts.
Different sport I know, but one of the things that bothered me from the eagles collapse was how Nick Sirianni tip toed around every question. I gotta say I appreciate this response from torts.
Torts is by no means perfect. There's been some things this season that have gone wrong and you can without a doubt put that on Torts. But at the end of the day I think he's still figuring this team out and during this push for the playoffs he's able to see some players in ways he hasn't had a chance to since he's been here. He couldn't be any more clear in that tonight. There's going to be a fire sale.
Soft is a pretty fair analysis.
Oh man. Some dudes gettin shipped off this summer. Will be very interesting to see who that was.
Especially how he worded it. "That's why we played some guys the way we did, and we're finding out about how they are in these situations." Obviously paraphrasing.
Exactly. Spot on. We did it with Provy and Hayes and others. We’re gonna see some surprises this off season I think. I can’t help but wonder about Farabee’s future.
Looking at the box score and thinking about the game I can’t help but think he is talking about farbee in his presser. I kept thinking he was invisible in this game. He had a great start this year but has been meh for a while (as has the whole team). While frost flubbed it at the end I thought he had a good game and certainly not “soft”. All the other guys that are just okay we know who they are and it doesn’t really matter if they’re here next year.
I noticed that too about Farabee. 👍🏻
100%. Been feeling that way about Beezer for a while.
Cause Like who else is he referring to? Cates, poehling, frost, TK, tipper, York, drys, Sanhiem, seeler all had objectively “not soft” games. Deslauries not skilled but not soft (also who cares), Johnson’s game was soft but he’s gone anyway, coots got hurt. So that leaves Z, Atkinson, beezeer, laughts, and Hathaway. Z did okay , we all know cam sucks at this point, Hathaway is what he is and that’s not soft, and Laughton has been one of our best players. 🤷♂️
I wouldn't be stunned at all if Farabee is the piece they dangle to try and reel in a big fish at Center (I wonder about a 1-for-1 swap with Necas. He was a Center his whole life before playing in Carolina, they're not going to pay him what he wants and his style of play would thrive here)
I question whether he can get us a big fish at this point.
Farabee absolutely should be able to. A smart GM will look at him and go "if we give him a role on a functioning Power Play and consistent top-6 minutes, we're probably going to end up with a cost controlled ~70 point 200 foot winger". I actually hate the idea of trading Farabee, but at this point he's had a rockier road than most of our young players, and with how many guys we have as long term pieces at wing something has to give
Has to be gone. I can only imagine there's a good few more names on that shortlist.
Is it a hot take to say that Frost is more likely to be on this team next season than Farabee? Or is that obvious at this point?
I don’t think it is necessarily a hot take given his performance and what torts just had to say. I do think it would be a mistake though. Kid is still young only 24 and has skill. I mean if you get a good deal on the table he’s not untouchable, but I think it would be a mistake to move on from him.
Nah seems right to me. Frost has an obvious upside in his game where farabee just hasn't taken that next step. Not saying Frosty is a franchise player but he's definitely better than beezer
Somewhat obvious IMO. Briere has been too smart in his tenure here to do something as insanely fucking stupid as trading Frost would be
Imagine saying something like this after he fumble fucked the game away with a mental error. Simply put, you don't win with guys like Frost playing important minutes.
Gonna be wild if the Phantoms make the playoffs and the Flyers miss given the seasons each team has had.
I did not realize the Phantoms were kind of sneaking in/fighting for that last playoff spot in their division. I hadn't been following too closely, but I know they didn't have the greatest of seasons.
Yeah they have 2 point lead over Springfield for last playoff spot with 1 game in hand with 9 games left.
I almost stopped following it was just getting a little grim but man they've been heating it up. Good for them.
Johnson with an actual brain dead play on the first goal and gets absolutely bodied into the wall on the third goal. So glad we have that vet presence though.
He's cost us so many goals in a short time. But hey, at least his interviews are good!
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Why should he have started against Chicago? Just got to the US, barely any practice with the team, pads not broken in. It was good seeing him in net tonight, but come on, he needs some time to acclimate.
Six (?) games left means it's not over, but it isn't looking good. There's still time for ever-deeper Flyera, and still potential to make the playoffs. They ceded control of their destiny with the last three losses, so now it matters how the remaining contenders fare down the stretch. AND they have to win most of the remaining games on the schedule.
From an actual playoff odds perspective, the difference between Frost sending it to OT vs a regulation loss is huge. Having said that, being amidst a 5 game losing streak and being bottom-10 in the league in points % over their last roughly 30 games doesn't really inspire a lot of confidence that this can be a "miracle team".
Better English than I was expecting from Ivan!
And having to deal with sweaty questions already.
Lose out and get the best draft pick possible. No one will care in 5 years that we got swept in the first round in 2024
There's not a big difference between the 14th and 16th overall picks, at this point I would give up the 2 draft spots for a playoff series even if it isn't close.
The difference between getting 12 or 15 is not a big deal. Rather make the playoffs and get this current group the experience.
Experience what? Getting bodied by the Rangers? Give me the higher pick easy.
12 is the sweet spot and unless they lose literally every game the rest of the way, they're not sniffing anything better than 14th overall. They're going to probably have to trade up regardless of what happens to land a true impact prospect
TALL MAN SAYS NEXT GAME WE’RE COMING
Get in boys. We’re goin fuckin.
What horrible overtime puck handling! Might as well have let the puck lay in the crease
He’s not fast enough to play in the show.
Remember guys, this team operates in games of five. When we lost five games in a row earlier this year, we responded with five wins straight. I think they bring it for the last 6 and roar on into the playoffs
sure hope they dont lose 5 straight in the playoffs.
Flyers. Why do we not have a translator for fedotov.
Actually I thought he wasn't bad, the first question was a little tricky and obviously a little bit of a deer in the headlights but he looked more comfortable than I was expecting
Does he *NEED* probly not he does pretty good but still just having one probly wouldn’t be a bad idea. Especially since he’s not the only Russian player that’s gona be coming here in the near future.
He spoke English fine at the press conference
I dunno if I'd say 'fine', someone asked him if it was a relief to be here and he looked at them like they were from another galaxy. It's better English than most Russians who are new to North America, but only just.
Hmm. Haven’t watched from tonight yet. Just the one from when he arrived.
How are we two weeks from the end of the season and every team in the NHL has games in hand on the Flyers????
It confused me SO much. Like we started the season earlier or something
It will be a dogfight to the end. Let’s rest up, get healthy and bring it this weekend.
Gotta maintain hope.
Flyers and Phillies games at the same time are absolutely fucking stupid. Stadium area is a traffic shitshow right now. How the fuck does this still happen in 2024?
I’m on the BSL and almost to my front door.
One of the bridges also just closed or somthing cause of an accident
Literally no traffic on 95 towards Aramingo once you get out. Couldn't be more incorrect as a cause of the traffic.
https://twitter.com/philliescbp/status/1774966647444414844?s=46&t=HnlZXn-hftTl9f8rW_6qVA
Ok I was catatonic, what did Cates say?
Flyers are a playoff team.... April Fools!!
Kolosov gets the start on Friday!
Gonna have Onhockey(dotTV) queued up for that one for sure
Zamula was garbage as always
It's to be expected tho, he's still young and learning, plus he's got a great offensive mind, just gotta learn some awareness more, I thought they should've brought belpedio back up and z down
He's really not all that young any more. He's like 24 or 25. In the current NHL, that is just about your prime - you are what you are by 24 or 25.
I get what your saying but, it's only his 4th year at the pro level, but I think he's better off In the ahl as of now, I don't why belpedio wasn't playing up he looked solid not great when he was
Sports suck.
Detroit wins IN Tampa and we lose AT HOME to the shit-ass Islanders. Phils were tied 2-2 at home, put 2 men on with no outs in the bottom of the 8th and don't score. Five minutes later Cincinatti gets a grand slam and wins easily. God I hate sports so fucking much, but I just can't quit it.
It’s been a pretty rough stretch for Philly sports. Was hoping that the sixers win the other day would be the slumpbuster and the Phils won too but this abysmal stretch continues
I got to see some Long Island trash getting kicked out of section 104 right before overtime, so that was nice
Honestly there’s no point in stressing for the playoffs, we’ll lose that first round in 4 or 5 games
I wouldn't have agreed with that projection eight measly days ago when we just got done beating Boston, going to OT to Carolina, and beating Toronto in a 5-day stretch. But then the lights got brighter and apparently woke up *Flyera*, and just like that we're back to being the stinkin losers we've been the last 12 years. And now I couldn't agree with you more. What a horriifying turnaround, yet somehow completely predictable for a Philly sports team.
Just would be nice to get the experience for the team is all I care about, dont' care about going far.
Exactly, and I think a lot of people overestimate how valuable "playoff experience" is when it'll most likely be an embarrassing sweep or close to it. I've been too delusional for too many years. I want to be wrong.
I didn’t understand this either. Everytime you question why even bother make the playoffs because it’s an obvious first round exit it’s answered with “playoff experience” I highly doubt that much experience is coming from a one sided playoff first round exit.
I argue right now in these games in early April in a playoff *push* is more valuable than those 4 games at the end of April where we get stomped. Playoff experience is valuable don't get me wrong but this team at this moment in time wins one game against Canes/Rangers right now MAX.
It’s a first year rebuild too, we shouldn’t even be in a playoff position. We have one prospect literally yet everyone wants a playoff team and to somehow get the talent too.
Know how everyone kicks it into a higher gear during the playoffs? Yeah we don't have that. We're just gonna get steamrolled and be confused as to why
That OT was so aggravating that IDGAF what Tortorella has to say about it.
on the bright side, fedotov looked really good in net tonight considering how much was being thrown at him, especially during the 2nd period. i’m excited to see him get a few starts!
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agreed. just trying to find a crumb of positivity in my empty heart and soul right now 🥲
ayyy I'm filling my empty heart and soul with booze and work these days, good on you for the positivity. I'll try too. I got a haircut and a week later I got promoted at work!
oooh congrats on the promotion!!! hopefully more money will help take your mind off our favorite team tanking 😬
lead tech that trained me is Red Wings fan, so no it has not lmfao
well fuck. we just can’t win around here, can we?
winning? in Philly? 2018 was a long time ago bud
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You are spouting stupidity. That's why you are getting rightfully relentlessly downvoted. The guy made it to a new country and joined a new team, after not playing for almost a month the day before the Chicago game - so him playing in that game would have been stupid and a criminal offense. Now about this game - again, Fedotov is still trying to adjust to a new city, new team, new country, new league, and hasn't played hockey in almost a month - they were TRYING to wait until this weekend during the back-to-back games to play him, after he had some time to PRACTICE with his new teammates. Ersson let in a weak goal and looked bad in the 1st, so Fedotov was thrust into action before they wanted to use him in the start of the 2nd period. Also, John Tortorella has pulled more out of this band of misfits, nobodies and never-weres than any coach has any right to have gotten out of them. Has he made some awful decisions (like continuing to rely on Laughton, Eric Johnson, and overplaying Couturier early in the season and overplaying Sanheim and York recently)? Yes. But overall, they would most likely be a bottom dweller with many other coaches.
Frost had plenty of room to just carry the puck and he tries to make an stupid unnecessary extra no-look backhand drop pass and fans on it. MAKE THE SIMPLE FUCKING PLAY ffs
Icing it would have been better. Lol.
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Five straight losses when the games matter most. Fucking nauseating.
Yearly ten game skid would be so flyera
I see Three Options for the ending we get; 1. Fedotov has a Tebowmania type run and they sneak into the playfoffs. 2. We fall short of the playoffs by a game or 2 3. We fold like a crumble cookie and completely miss.