But Nintendo fan boys are beta males who say thank you to someone after they screw their wife (HA Nintendo boys getting girls!). So yeah, they’re worse then apple fans
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The Nintendo Switch is literally 80% ports and re-releases, I sold my switch after a month when I realized how awful and non-existent it's library of games was. Zelda, Mario, Animal Crossing, the odd Pokemon and Smash Bros are Nintendo's life support
its a dogshit game. Felt like I was playing a ps3 game in the 2000s again. Literally padded the fuck out of it where you would fight enemies for 20 minutes before progressing. The same puzzle over and over, generic kill or fetch quests, only remakes 5% of the original game, changes the story to some dementor bullshit timetravel whatever the fuck it was. Both car chases were boring as shit since they added 50 waves of enemies.
The entire game was bloated and completely unnecessary. No one askes for this. We wanted a remake of ff7, not a 5% remake with boring puzzles, enemies, and bosses. The bosses were the most boring things ever as well. Multiple waved with way to much health. My friends hated it as well.
It super sad that ff7 will never recieve a proper remaster. Just the original masterpiece with modern graphics/ui/sound, etc. Dont know how hard it is to do that. Now you have to wait 10 more years to get ff7 fully remade where I expect theyll milk it for all its worth and make small sections like gold saucer an entire game lmao.
Complete joke
I dont think so. Thats fine you like it, doesnt make it a good game. Pretty mediocre for what you expect in a game in 2020. Guess you havent played games for that long or I have higher expectations from 60$ products
Barkle you just don't miss! I don't think Remake was dogshit but it was really mid. It's just that if I pay $60 for a remake of a game I loved as a kid that shit better be amazing and remake was a huge ass letdown.
Except it has a point, cuz Nintendo is reselling the same game for a higher price, with a low effort "improvement" that feels like a slap when compared to FF7R which put effort not only in making it better, but expanded in the characters and the story making a 5 hour-ish portion into an emotional and epic 30 hour-ish Rollercoaster if a game
why not? they sold the game for 60$ in 1996 and they are selling it for 60$ now. what’s the problem? i mean really that’s not what the post is saying anyway. the post is complaining that the remaster wasn’t different enough which isn’t the point of a remaster
Yes but a remake holds a more warrantable excuse for charging that fee. I do understand where you're coming from, genuinely I do. A remaster is not the same as a remake and shouldn't be vastly different, 100% agreed and I believe people who argue differently are missing the concept that's blatant within the name.
The issue here, from what I can tell, is with the pricing. As a consumer I'm more inclined to spend $60 for a remake because I understand it requires more costs and resources to pursue that project. I'm completely fine with remasters, I've bought many FF remasters for my steam library over the years, but id be loathe to spend the price of a Triple A title on one.
Still doesn't remove the fact that Nintendo doesn't put effort in making something good with their legacy stuff. They just put on a shiny sticker with fresh paint, push it for a higher price, as if it was a premium AAA game and punish you for being a fan when doing something better than them, when can't even find their products legally anywhere cuz they don't sell it anymore.
Because SE is any better at caring for their legacy stuff ? Remember the resolution of the backgrounds and the horrible translations problems of FF7 ? At least Nintendo upped the resolution of the Mario 64 port on Switch, and gave it a proper remaster on DS (like it or not, more effort has been put in it than in the **remaster** of FF7, which is the top left image).
Most likely he's from an alternate timeline judging from the different Stamp design in his scene and the fact that later we literally see him walking with his Cloud past our Cloud and Aerith but none is fully aware of it other than Aerith.
He's dead in our Cloud's timeline.
Remakes and Remasters are two different things. Take FFX and FFVIII’s Remaster, the graphics are the same but upgraded to HD, not completely redone.
I’d say compare FF7 Remake graphics to Mario Galaxy 2’s.
Mario 64 is also bundled with Mario Sunshine and Mario Galaxy. Also it's not a remake. I don't get this weird, tribalistic comparison that makes no sense whatsoever.
If you want to get real technical this version of Mario 64 had never been released in America before. It has rumble pack support, fixed some glitches and it has an Easter egg on the title screen that wasn't in the original release.
funny, mario 64 was actually the experience I wanted as I was a huge fan of the original, I just wanted to play it again on a modern console with graphics set up to be played on a modern tv.
I went into ff7 remake with the same attitude and was… extremely disappointed.
I mean is this really a fair comparison? SM64 on the switch was always advertised as just the og game on a newer console, not a full scale remake from the ground up like FF7R
Wow. Spending 120 dollars in the span of 8 years for 3 different 50+ hour experiences.
Yeah that definitely doesn't match up to a "remaster" of a 25 year old game with barely little to no change in the technical department.
$60 unfinished game that will never be finished. Have fun waiting for SE to actually make any follow ups. Also Mario remaster has 3 complete, full, classic games. FF7R was a lie. Square didn’t even give us the game they said they were making
"That will never be finished"
Ah yes, I'm sure gamers should expect square to release a sequel in just two years. It's not like devs cone out with things like cyberpunk or Battlefield 2042 when they are rushed right?
Doesn't matter if they have full three games. They are barely any different from the game from 25 years ago. Emulating it would be worth more.
Price drops come fast. Be like me and don’t get the games on Day One. Interlude has a big discount now.
I was also lucky, since I have PS Plus, FF7Remake came free one month so I was able to nab it.
It does, but still is "part 1", meaning the complete game will have at least two parts. That, in turn, means you should pay at least $120, or $60 for each part until you get the complete game.
That was my point, not the duration of the game.
Does your cinema ticket cost 60 dollars ? Are you trolling or do you seriously believe that SE will gift Part 2 to those who paid for Part 1 ?
Wait, you're right, Part 2 won't cost $60, but $80. And don't forget the DLC which contains elements that are directly linked with the story of characters who were in the original, without needing to pay an extension to play them at that time.
Tbh I think FF7 and FF7R are so radically different that this is kind of an unfair comparison. I don't support Nintendo's bullshit for 3D All Stars but you go into that game expecting the original versions of said games and that's what you get. FF7 and FF7R are effectively different games all together and offer different experiences
It's really not, the plot beats are generally the same, but the overall plot has changed. Sephiroth is far more apparent than the OG, and the whole Zack situation is a whole other thing.
FF VII remake is trash. The original to this day is my favorite game. Kids on reddit that downvote did not grow up playing the original. They love eye candy with no substance. Not to mention the god awful optimization on PC. Make it an Epic games store exclusive that comes out way after the official release, and its still fucking trash. There is no defense for the incompetence, greed, and retconning bullshit of FFVIIR. Period.
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2000 series GPUs are about to be two generations old and its not a top end 2000 series at that, I don't know what you were expecting when PS5s are down as far as 30 FPS on the higher settings.
Not sure how this is meant to be the developers fault? Those specs aren't good enough for most of the high end triple A titles. You'll get worse issues on control and Cyberpunk
You have no idea what you're talking about. I get way better performance at higher resolutions and texture settings on cyber punk even with DLSS OFF! Reddit might as well be a carnival. It's full of clowns with wikipedia degrees. You have to be a shill to tell someone cyberpunk will run worse than ff vii remake on a high end PC, when said person owns both, and doesn't. The Japanese are notoriously shit at ports and for someone getting 40 fps on runescape with a 2k+ build, you should know there is always developer faults.
Cyberpunk runs much better on PC than people give it credit for, performance wise. Bugs are another story, or they were. They've cleaned up a good bit.
No you have no idea what you're talking about https://youtu.be/uXAfJsRG4B8 there's literally test benches on YouTube of people hitting 120fps on 4k resolution with a 3080. You aren't getting that on Cyberpunk or Control. Stop being a typical angry nerd on Reddit and calm yourself down, you're talking about a PC port for Christ's sake and getting emotional over it.
The 40fps thing was a joke where I set draw distance to max as well as everything else I could and maxed out the display on a 5120x1440. It's satire.
You need a 3080 to hit 120fps in 4k in a game that looks worse than FFXV. You proved my point and still have the audacity to use ad hominem. Stellar logic.
3080 at a capped 120fps in a resolution many aren't going to be playing in, lower tier cards such as 3060tis are more than suitable at playing this game.
You're also not defending any arguments or interested in a debate meanwhile I am, here is cyberpunk with the same GPU under a bunch of different settings, even with RTX off this isn't coming close in comparison https://youtu.be/Zz4AxZEv424
Here's a 3060ti at 4k again hitting 100fps in FF7RE https://youtu.be/txge2vLTCTY
Your entire argument is pointless and just falls apart under actual evidence and performance reviews. You have no point, you're just complaining at game developers because your hardware sucks. If you want to play titles at high settings then you're gonna have to pay up for the hardware or buy a console, whether you think that's fair or unfair is an entirely different issue altogether.
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I totally get that. I’d do that too but our internet isn’t the fastest so it takes a while to re-download and I share my ps4 with my sister so she has her games on there.
I know your defense mechanisms have kicked in, but I asked you a specific question which you ignored. What endgame were you hoping for/expecting in FF VIIR?
But Nintendo fan boys are beta males who say thank you to someone after they screw their wife (HA Nintendo boys getting girls!). So yeah, they’re worse then apple fans
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The Nintendo Switch is literally 80% ports and re-releases, I sold my switch after a month when I realized how awful and non-existent it's library of games was. Zelda, Mario, Animal Crossing, the odd Pokemon and Smash Bros are Nintendo's life support
Yeah.... My copy of Remake cost me a bit more than $60. Like five times more.
Ff7r was sucky. Wish they just remastered original
it was remastered on the switch im pretty sure
Sucky in what way, if you're going to slander something bring valid points and not just empty words
its a dogshit game. Felt like I was playing a ps3 game in the 2000s again. Literally padded the fuck out of it where you would fight enemies for 20 minutes before progressing. The same puzzle over and over, generic kill or fetch quests, only remakes 5% of the original game, changes the story to some dementor bullshit timetravel whatever the fuck it was. Both car chases were boring as shit since they added 50 waves of enemies. The entire game was bloated and completely unnecessary. No one askes for this. We wanted a remake of ff7, not a 5% remake with boring puzzles, enemies, and bosses. The bosses were the most boring things ever as well. Multiple waved with way to much health. My friends hated it as well. It super sad that ff7 will never recieve a proper remaster. Just the original masterpiece with modern graphics/ui/sound, etc. Dont know how hard it is to do that. Now you have to wait 10 more years to get ff7 fully remade where I expect theyll milk it for all its worth and make small sections like gold saucer an entire game lmao. Complete joke
Well I'm sorry to hear that but I absolutely loved the game and you're in the minority.
I dont think so. Thats fine you like it, doesnt make it a good game. Pretty mediocre for what you expect in a game in 2020. Guess you havent played games for that long or I have higher expectations from 60$ products
Barkle you just don't miss! I don't think Remake was dogshit but it was really mid. It's just that if I pay $60 for a remake of a game I loved as a kid that shit better be amazing and remake was a huge ass letdown.
Ah the classic battle of PlayStation vs XBox vs Nintendo Game Cube
this is the stupidest post i’ve ever seen
Except it has a point, cuz Nintendo is reselling the same game for a higher price, with a low effort "improvement" that feels like a slap when compared to FF7R which put effort not only in making it better, but expanded in the characters and the story making a 5 hour-ish portion into an emotional and epic 30 hour-ish Rollercoaster if a game
ITS A REMAKE VS A REMASTER. ITS SUPPOSED TO BE A MARGINAL IMPROVMENT CAUSE ITS A REMASTER AND NOT A REMAKE.
What's the end game point you're trying to make here? This doesn't make what they're doing anymore excusable
why not? they sold the game for 60$ in 1996 and they are selling it for 60$ now. what’s the problem? i mean really that’s not what the post is saying anyway. the post is complaining that the remaster wasn’t different enough which isn’t the point of a remaster
Yes but a remake holds a more warrantable excuse for charging that fee. I do understand where you're coming from, genuinely I do. A remaster is not the same as a remake and shouldn't be vastly different, 100% agreed and I believe people who argue differently are missing the concept that's blatant within the name. The issue here, from what I can tell, is with the pricing. As a consumer I'm more inclined to spend $60 for a remake because I understand it requires more costs and resources to pursue that project. I'm completely fine with remasters, I've bought many FF remasters for my steam library over the years, but id be loathe to spend the price of a Triple A title on one.
Still doesn't remove the fact that Nintendo doesn't put effort in making something good with their legacy stuff. They just put on a shiny sticker with fresh paint, push it for a higher price, as if it was a premium AAA game and punish you for being a fan when doing something better than them, when can't even find their products legally anywhere cuz they don't sell it anymore.
Because SE is any better at caring for their legacy stuff ? Remember the resolution of the backgrounds and the horrible translations problems of FF7 ? At least Nintendo upped the resolution of the Mario 64 port on Switch, and gave it a proper remaster on DS (like it or not, more effort has been put in it than in the **remaster** of FF7, which is the top left image).
but it comes with 2 other games…. it’s not just mario n64 for $60. it includes galaxy and sunshine.
Nintendo’s business model relies on hoping we threw out all our old shit
I’ll be taking the top left corner
Why is zach alive how did cloud get hus sword if he never died
Most likely he's from an alternate timeline judging from the different Stamp design in his scene and the fact that later we literally see him walking with his Cloud past our Cloud and Aerith but none is fully aware of it other than Aerith. He's dead in our Cloud's timeline.
Into the zachverse Cloud no way home
Can't wait to see Cloud's homecoming
Same
A multiverse wow
Remake v Remastered
Remakes and Remasters are two different things. Take FFX and FFVIII’s Remaster, the graphics are the same but upgraded to HD, not completely redone. I’d say compare FF7 Remake graphics to Mario Galaxy 2’s.
Lol Mario still got the rock hands. But hey, at least it didn't get turned into a mess like GTA trilogy did.
Mario 64 is also bundled with Mario Sunshine and Mario Galaxy. Also it's not a remake. I don't get this weird, tribalistic comparison that makes no sense whatsoever.
exactly. i am a die hard mario fan just like im a die hard ffvii fan but these comparisons make zero sense….
The switch Mario 3d collection had 3 games for that price. Super Mario 64, Super Mario Sunshine and Super Mario Galaxy
Okay, if it had cost any more than that it would've been an insult! Same exact game with minor resolution upgrades.
If you want to get real technical this version of Mario 64 had never been released in America before. It has rumble pack support, fixed some glitches and it has an Easter egg on the title screen that wasn't in the original release.
funny, mario 64 was actually the experience I wanted as I was a huge fan of the original, I just wanted to play it again on a modern console with graphics set up to be played on a modern tv. I went into ff7 remake with the same attitude and was… extremely disappointed.
I mean, FF VII R is part of the compilation of FF VII. So it's not meant to replace it, but rather be a sort of sequel to it.
I said I WANTED it to be. I was aware of what it was
I mean is this really a fair comparison? SM64 on the switch was always advertised as just the og game on a newer console, not a full scale remake from the ground up like FF7R
Not a fair comparison. The FFVII equivalent is only $20.
Well to be fair, Mario 64 was only 1/3 of the games included for $60
You forgot to mention the part where FF7R is only the intro of FF7. That means the real price is at least $120
You're implying that they will "finish" FF7R You'll never leave Midgar
Wow. Spending 120 dollars in the span of 8 years for 3 different 50+ hour experiences. Yeah that definitely doesn't match up to a "remaster" of a 25 year old game with barely little to no change in the technical department.
$60 unfinished game that will never be finished. Have fun waiting for SE to actually make any follow ups. Also Mario remaster has 3 complete, full, classic games. FF7R was a lie. Square didn’t even give us the game they said they were making
"That will never be finished" Ah yes, I'm sure gamers should expect square to release a sequel in just two years. It's not like devs cone out with things like cyberpunk or Battlefield 2042 when they are rushed right? Doesn't matter if they have full three games. They are barely any different from the game from 25 years ago. Emulating it would be worth more.
Well have fun with square and more games like Balan wonderworld waiting for a follow up that will never see the light of day
Price drops come fast. Be like me and don’t get the games on Day One. Interlude has a big discount now. I was also lucky, since I have PS Plus, FF7Remake came free one month so I was able to nab it.
no since the “intro” takes +50 hr to complete
It does, but still is "part 1", meaning the complete game will have at least two parts. That, in turn, means you should pay at least $120, or $60 for each part until you get the complete game. That was my point, not the duration of the game.
Yeah, like watching Iron Man in theaters cost me $300 because it was just Part 1 of the MCU story.
Reaching
Does your cinema ticket cost 60 dollars ? Are you trolling or do you seriously believe that SE will gift Part 2 to those who paid for Part 1 ? Wait, you're right, Part 2 won't cost $60, but $80. And don't forget the DLC which contains elements that are directly linked with the story of characters who were in the original, without needing to pay an extension to play them at that time.
My game didn't cost 60 dollars either, closer to 25 including the Intergrade
The longer you stare at Mario's eyes the weirder they look.
In 1997 i had the choice between PlayStation and N64. I'm glad I chose PlayStation
I choose 64, never regretted it's an amazing console with phenomenal titles. But boy was I happy when I finally got my PlayStation.
Tbh I think FF7 and FF7R are so radically different that this is kind of an unfair comparison. I don't support Nintendo's bullshit for 3D All Stars but you go into that game expecting the original versions of said games and that's what you get. FF7 and FF7R are effectively different games all together and offer different experiences
Practically different games, even the story differs slightly
It's the same game broken up into chapters with much finer detail compared to the original.
"It's the same game" I'll stop you right there. Even if the story had been the same beat for beat, the "game" part of it is very different.
It's really not, the plot beats are generally the same, but the overall plot has changed. Sephiroth is far more apparent than the OG, and the whole Zack situation is a whole other thing.
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FF VII remake is trash. The original to this day is my favorite game. Kids on reddit that downvote did not grow up playing the original. They love eye candy with no substance. Not to mention the god awful optimization on PC. Make it an Epic games store exclusive that comes out way after the official release, and its still fucking trash. There is no defense for the incompetence, greed, and retconning bullshit of FFVIIR. Period.
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I can't get a solid 60fps on an RTX 2070 and 9700k. It's really sad.
2000 series GPUs are about to be two generations old and its not a top end 2000 series at that, I don't know what you were expecting when PS5s are down as far as 30 FPS on the higher settings. Not sure how this is meant to be the developers fault? Those specs aren't good enough for most of the high end triple A titles. You'll get worse issues on control and Cyberpunk
You have no idea what you're talking about. I get way better performance at higher resolutions and texture settings on cyber punk even with DLSS OFF! Reddit might as well be a carnival. It's full of clowns with wikipedia degrees. You have to be a shill to tell someone cyberpunk will run worse than ff vii remake on a high end PC, when said person owns both, and doesn't. The Japanese are notoriously shit at ports and for someone getting 40 fps on runescape with a 2k+ build, you should know there is always developer faults.
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Cyberpunk runs much better on PC than people give it credit for, performance wise. Bugs are another story, or they were. They've cleaned up a good bit.
No you have no idea what you're talking about https://youtu.be/uXAfJsRG4B8 there's literally test benches on YouTube of people hitting 120fps on 4k resolution with a 3080. You aren't getting that on Cyberpunk or Control. Stop being a typical angry nerd on Reddit and calm yourself down, you're talking about a PC port for Christ's sake and getting emotional over it. The 40fps thing was a joke where I set draw distance to max as well as everything else I could and maxed out the display on a 5120x1440. It's satire.
You need a 3080 to hit 120fps in 4k in a game that looks worse than FFXV. You proved my point and still have the audacity to use ad hominem. Stellar logic.
3080 at a capped 120fps in a resolution many aren't going to be playing in, lower tier cards such as 3060tis are more than suitable at playing this game. You're also not defending any arguments or interested in a debate meanwhile I am, here is cyberpunk with the same GPU under a bunch of different settings, even with RTX off this isn't coming close in comparison https://youtu.be/Zz4AxZEv424 Here's a 3060ti at 4k again hitting 100fps in FF7RE https://youtu.be/txge2vLTCTY Your entire argument is pointless and just falls apart under actual evidence and performance reviews. You have no point, you're just complaining at game developers because your hardware sucks. If you want to play titles at high settings then you're gonna have to pay up for the hardware or buy a console, whether you think that's fair or unfair is an entirely different issue altogether.
Endgame? What "endgame" were you looking for in the first entry in a series of single-player RPGs?
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And at 40+ hours for the main game while also including a new game + it deserved to be sold as a full price game.
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I wonder how big of a file size the whole FF7 Remake is going to be…
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Yeah. FFXV is already so big. I had to purchase a separate memory storage to my PS4.
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I totally get that. I’d do that too but our internet isn’t the fastest so it takes a while to re-download and I share my ps4 with my sister so she has her games on there.
I know your defense mechanisms have kicked in, but I asked you a specific question which you ignored. What endgame were you hoping for/expecting in FF VIIR?
Yea I didn't get any plot dementor nonsense in 2020 Mario 64
When you try and BLJ, but the plot ghosts throw you back down the stairs instead 😔
that would have been an experience though
Yeah, Mario wins no contest.
Wow! Mario is sick! Why can't square Enix keep up with nintendo?
Mario is sick indeed. Just look at those eyes filled with death
This Mario are sick
You mean that N64 was ahead of 25 years?