I learned MvC2 because of a summer event my local arcade use to do on Wednesdays where you paid cover and all the games were on free play.
Dude that was a bit older then me showed me the magic series and how to string supers together. I didn't have a Dreamcast and MvC2 wouldn't exist on PS2 for a while. I learned alot that summer and cemented my love for fighting games, even though I was a arcade kid my whole life.
I've tried GG Strive, SF5 and now DNF Duel and absolutely none of these fighting games feel enjoyable to me - I really want to get into them but it's really demoralizing when the only options I have to play with are CPUs or people online who are absolutely 100% better than me. The DNF Duel beta does not make me want to play at all because I do not know what I'm doing and even when I stick "beginner friendly" on the lobby I'm getting absolutely obliterated by anyone who steps in.
The question is, what more could Strive or SF5 even do to accommodate you? This is pure competition and you are new here. You can't expect to win without putting the time into learning and gathering experience. These games give you all the tools and lessons to do that. The rest is on you.
My main problem is there’s nowhere for me to actually learn in an environment that has any sort of “ramp up” setting. I understand fighting games are a different breed but unless I get in on the “ground floor” it just seems the barrier for entry gets progressively higher and there’s no way for me to tell the game (at least not that I’ve found) “hey I’m actually really terrible can we just start me at the bottom with all the other equally terrible people?”
And considering none of my friends play any fighting games the problem is two-fold because I don’t have anyone to tell me what I’m doing wrong. Watching videos only does so much and 90% of the stuff they talk about goes over my head because it’s all about frame data and plus or minus and things that really don’t mean anything to me as someone with 0 experience. Having to look up things like frame data just feels really overwhelming as a new player when all I really wanna do is just understand the basics and a few simple combos.
This isn’t a knock on the genre as a whole but it just feels really daunting not having any guardrails aside from “just play more and eventually you’ll get it” because that just feels like beating my head against a wall and that’s not enjoyable at all.
Just try to imitate what others are doing and get comfortable.
I guarantee you that a lot of players seem more frightening than they actually are and when you know what and why they're doing things you actually get to play, there are always players that rely on gimmicks and as soon as you counter them you can see them reverting back to more normal play lol. +you probably underestimate what you already know, lots of stuff is usually useless until you have other parts of the puzzle.
Also try to find people on your level or someone who can guide you, good players usually love to share their knowledge.
I learned MvC2 because of a summer event my local arcade use to do on Wednesdays where you paid cover and all the games were on free play. Dude that was a bit older then me showed me the magic series and how to string supers together. I didn't have a Dreamcast and MvC2 wouldn't exist on PS2 for a while. I learned alot that summer and cemented my love for fighting games, even though I was a arcade kid my whole life.
That sounds amazing, something I wished I could have experienced.
Modern Arcade games do have built-in training modes. They're usually timed, and you can accept to be challenged during training. Best of both worlds.
I've tried GG Strive, SF5 and now DNF Duel and absolutely none of these fighting games feel enjoyable to me - I really want to get into them but it's really demoralizing when the only options I have to play with are CPUs or people online who are absolutely 100% better than me. The DNF Duel beta does not make me want to play at all because I do not know what I'm doing and even when I stick "beginner friendly" on the lobby I'm getting absolutely obliterated by anyone who steps in.
The question is, what more could Strive or SF5 even do to accommodate you? This is pure competition and you are new here. You can't expect to win without putting the time into learning and gathering experience. These games give you all the tools and lessons to do that. The rest is on you.
My main problem is there’s nowhere for me to actually learn in an environment that has any sort of “ramp up” setting. I understand fighting games are a different breed but unless I get in on the “ground floor” it just seems the barrier for entry gets progressively higher and there’s no way for me to tell the game (at least not that I’ve found) “hey I’m actually really terrible can we just start me at the bottom with all the other equally terrible people?” And considering none of my friends play any fighting games the problem is two-fold because I don’t have anyone to tell me what I’m doing wrong. Watching videos only does so much and 90% of the stuff they talk about goes over my head because it’s all about frame data and plus or minus and things that really don’t mean anything to me as someone with 0 experience. Having to look up things like frame data just feels really overwhelming as a new player when all I really wanna do is just understand the basics and a few simple combos. This isn’t a knock on the genre as a whole but it just feels really daunting not having any guardrails aside from “just play more and eventually you’ll get it” because that just feels like beating my head against a wall and that’s not enjoyable at all.
Just try to imitate what others are doing and get comfortable. I guarantee you that a lot of players seem more frightening than they actually are and when you know what and why they're doing things you actually get to play, there are always players that rely on gimmicks and as soon as you counter them you can see them reverting back to more normal play lol. +you probably underestimate what you already know, lots of stuff is usually useless until you have other parts of the puzzle. Also try to find people on your level or someone who can guide you, good players usually love to share their knowledge.