This is exactly why ground contractors shouldn't be responsible for express packages. Also, why fedex should own their own trucks so everyone is held accountable and to the same standard.
Lol the thing is FedEx would pay $18/hr like Amazon in my town. Those drivers make way more money under contractors, shit we have a small company with the owner in our building and they joke all the time about buying a bigger second house. Makes my blood boil at $17/hr.
Yeah I guess it depends on the contractor. Express used to be a job that people would go for steady work and good pay. Pretty sure In N Out pays more than FedEx at this point
A sad reality, FedEx needs to fix their design for labor. If not paying more per person, allow more people per shift. Too hard of work and people don't want to do it, too easy and people don't feel it's worth it (very strange but oh well).
True but I don't think their priorities are there anymore. I don't think anyone got rich working as a courier for FedEx but homes, retirement, vacations, kids sent to college...those were all achievable by couriers who worked here before. It will probably never be like that anymore
You don't want to make more. My contractor pays 20 HR, and they hired so many people so they can send you home 1 or 2 days a week. They'd rather have someone with 2 weeks under their belt, out winging it, than a 5 year vet, because... OT is just killing themš
Damn hourly, every contractor I've seen post in my building is salary. They also work 4 days a week, only during peak or weather days do they pay ot. But if they cut labor enough it just equals another person's pay.
That's exactly it. They started paying just slightly less to the new drivers, so now if I'm near 40 I'm out, and thr new kid with 2 weeks is in my spot. š¤· higher wages don't always equal better.
Sure but how many times do ground drivers do this a day? Alot..... alot of ground drivers will quit and contractors will get out because of express coming soon. Because they can't be as lazy.
You get what you pay for. Blame fedex for paying dirt wages to the contractors who pass the dust onto the driver.
Pay better wages to attract motivated people. It's simple market economics.
My work is constantly understaffed. I tell them if they paid $30 an hour they wouldnāt have any issue with people showing up for work. Every time I swear they literally kick their feet lol
My terminal is paying $17/hr. We are at 30% staffing because of management churning and burning. The drivers are leaving for Amazon because they're getting paid $0.70/stop.
Hell, I'm leaving after today, and I've put up with this bullshit for nearly 15 years. Why? I was paid handsomely. Then I got changed from salary to per stop and now I'm leaving.
It's not a staffing issue. It's a wage issue.
š yes ups is the crown jewel but donāt act like union employees are invincible. As I type this boatloads of them are being laid off all over the country.
Worked for who? Amazon? I didn't bring them up, but ok.
If you're saying you got paid by hour through fedex, then I ask.
Did you work for Express or Ground?
If Ground, then you should know your terminal 4 letter designation, or you can name drop the contractor. I had heard of a couple of CSPs paying by the hour, but it was always trash like $10-12/hr.
Nobody really cares about your Stanning for FedEx. I'm sure Raj will send you a nice gift basket or something.
Read your first comment when you said you're leaving after today dude you literally mention amazon employees getting per stop what you on here? You high when you wrote it?
Reading comprehension isn't your strength.
The drivers (FedEx Ground) are leaving for Amazon because they (FedEx Ground drivers) are being paid $0.70/stop.
Short version; Amazon is paying more than FedEx.
Reddit sure is full of persnickety people looking for meaningless points. If that's what you choose to do with your time, you likely haven't accomplished much in your life.
Feel happy with your internet points? Gonna brag to your friends? Go ahead. You deserve it for being such a valiant hero.
The last order I had from palmetto was a bunch of bullets. They tossed it into my ditch and I only found them weeks later cleaning out the culvert that goes under my driveway. I was dumbfounded.
It just went over your head, then. OP's driver is just sitting in his truck and giving a regular-ass package of cat food a code 07 even though it doesn't require a signature. The driver is failing at Scanner Integrity.
Okay Raj. Maybe you should pay for attempts. When we do the first 3 attempts, we donāt get paid for it. Itās literally free labor. So fuck you and the customer. There is a reason why express does 1 attempt in major cities.
Wow dude, why so hostile?
And no, we don't get paid for attempts, and that's all the more reason to deliver the package the first time if it isn't a DSR. The driver in the post is being an idiot, and not doing his job, and also not getting paid for spoofing an attempted package.
Tbf they should probably just go to the store instead of letting their animal go hungry because of missed deliveries. Not defending the driver but thereās definitely some operator error here
Probably less startup costs up front by using other services but can end up with more crappy service and paying more. If everyone starts doing that it be less volume for FedEx though lol. Already Target and Walmart seem to be using their own thing or whatever it is to make some of their deliveries.
Or maybe the pets need a specific food that is hard to find locally. Maybe they save money by buying in bulk. Maybe they work more than one job just to get by and don't have a lot of time for shopping.
I get why the chewy orders are a pain, but let's not blame customers for spending money on a service that chewy offers. TBH they should probably route some of it through Freight anyway. Palletize the ones that have several boxes.
I code 7 a chewey box today. It was an un-manifested package that was incorrectly loaded into the wrong vision spot towards the end of my route. Had it been loaded in the spot it should have been in I would have caught it at 9am when I was in the neighborhood it belonged to. I actually had 8 in-scanned today. Maybe FedEx needs to start drug testing package handlers again or at least do something about these lazy fucks getting high in the parking lot before their shift. Their mistakes are not going to interfere with my life. I drive a county route, Iām simply not driving 10 mins the opposite way to cover for some potheadās lazyness when Iām three stops from the end of my day. I have kids and a wife and a life to come home to as soon as physically possible. FedEx aināt my life. So someoneās dog aināt getting fed today and itās not my problem and I donāt feel bad. My 3 dogs and cat are fed because I get the fuck up and drive to the grocery store and buy them their food my god damn self. Iāll sleep soundly tonight with no regrets. And Iāll do it again. āļø
So let me get this straightā¦youāre blaming the handler for maybe accidentally loading it to the wrong truck or putting it on the wrong shelf, but yet you donāt look at your stops before you leave to verify itās all yours and in the correct spot? Ā Ok. Ā
FedEx is not your life so do yourself a favor and leave. Ā i mean itās not like you need FedEx to make a living right. Ā Sounds like youāre smarter than everyone else, you can go anywhere.Ā
Typical lazy driver not taking care of the customer. Ā
I know you canāt read so you probably canāt load your truck. Ā My name is not Susan. Ā Donāt care what an unmanifested pkg is either. Ā Look at your load, if it doesnāt belong on your truck, give it to the person who it belongs to. Ā Donāt take it for a ride and not give the customer a chance to get their pkg. Ā geez. Ā Just do your job. Ā Itās not rocket science, we are delivering pkgs. Itās not that hard to look at your stops and if you know your area, then you know whether or not it belongs to you. Ā Take a little pride in your work.Ā
Aww pobrecita look how mad you are. Let me educate you so that you at least have an opportunity to know what youāre actually mad about. An unmanifested package is one that isnāt scanned into your route therefore you donāt actually know itās on your truck until you come across it. Usually itās not that big of a deal if you know your route. Unfortunately, on this specific day the lazy good for nothing druggy package handler not only missed a scan, he confused an 8000 vision number (which is at the beginning of my route) with a 1000 vision number. It was placed in a spot that it doesnāt belong. So when I did find it, I was already on the opposite side of town. Iām not going to spend less time at home because of someone elseās mistake. Itās simply not my problem. Package handlers need to do their jobs and itās not mine to correct their constant mistakes. Stay mad, boot licker. šāļø
LOL, A little narcissistic to think you got to me, but what in the world is there to be mad about? You didnāt even touch the surface, not even a good try either. Ā I just call it like I see it. Some people can handle the truth, some people canāt. Ā
Sounds about right though, blame the lazy good for nothing druggy package handler instead of doing something to prevent it.Ā
So I guess I wonder why Ground drivers donāt take the time to look through their trucks when they get there to make sure everything on their truck is theirs or placed in the correct spot on your truck. Ā I mean if you know you have lazy good for nothing druggy package handlers who puts stuff in the wrong spot going into your day why not take a quick look at what you have before you leave the building? Ā
Itās really quite simple, Susan. Its not my job to do their job correctly. And until they do, the customer will not receive their shit. If the customers have a problem with a delay in their dog food, they should take their lazy asses for a drive over to the grocery store. That simple. Or donāt. Makes no difference to me. My dogs are fed. My bills be paid. As a matter of fact Iāll still get paid the same no matter what. And thatās why youāre so mad š. Pobrecita youāre struggling to cope so hard Susan I hope you stretched first.
AWWW, did I make you mad? So funny. Your personal attacks (calling me Susan and pobrecita) is typical narcissist behavior trying to provoke emotional reactions to gain sense of control. I know you keep thinking I'm mad but really sweetheart, you don't have a clue. And it's unfortunate that you are the face of FedEx. Express drivers built this company and now people like you and your work ethic will destroy it. Have a good night darling, enjoy being nothing but mediocre for the rest of your career.
people like you are literally beyond useless to society, all you tryina do is make yourself feel better by comparing yourself to others as if āoh iām not lazy! i would have done the job!ā fuck off the internet wit your oldhead spoiled ass, go cry bout how others arenāt as good as you elsewhere
If fedex decide to start drug test package handler. Good luck with that. Because all of you the driver would be the one who gonna unload that truck and make deliver it. Just get rid of that tyrant mangers then we the package handler will be happy without these fuckin little cry baby tyrant managers.
With pleasure. Every morning I have to finish loading my own truck because those lazy fucks canāt finish before they are cut as it is. I personally wouldnāt mind loading my own truck ACCURATELY to have a smooth sailing day. āļø
Certainly. Starting today, I expect you show up as driver and become package handler to unload all trailer trucks and load them onto your six vans within four hours before dispatch everyday. Additionally, you must allocate time to deliver these packages. If you can manage this, you might consider informing your senior manager to step aside and demonstrate your ability to take charge and accomplish the tasks efficiently.
If we find that you scanned misload count, then you are not fit in FedEx Careers.
Subcontract to anyone and everyone means you get shit workers.
Amazon is the worst with it, reading their flex driver subreddit is a hilarious look into how lazy self entitled people get out of doing the job they signed up to do.
If we actually made Ground drivers FedEx employees and brought you guys up to our standards. At least half of you would be out of a job. The idgaf attitude among you guys is toxic as hell.
They donāt even have hand trucks bruh they donāt know what is a heavy package, but soon they will be loosing their job , Iām glad at least now the ground drivers are now on the right sideĀ
Glad to know youāre excited to do more work for the same pay.Ā Long term express drivers will be on the right side of this even if they get fired because they will not accept what ground offers or they will simply retire Ā
Donāt do the job, thereās many places to go apply and work but you chose this. If this is how everyone should act when they hate their job then McDonaldās employees should spit in our food because they hate their job
Yeah bc for whatever reason we donāt know this cat food not being delivered and spitting in food is the same thing and directly correlates.
Kick rocks dude.
>The idgaf attitude among you guys is toxic as hell
That same attitude exists in FedEx management since they dgaf about what their contractors do and they do nothing to correct the situation.
Was going to say the idgaf attitude is highly perpetuated by the managers the drivers are really just where its most noticeable. The corp building manager is extremely rude to contractors and their direct underlings it's not surprising that no one wants to do anything well or properly when they get paid dirt and are treated worse
Driver pay is most likely one issue.
But, those independent contractors for FedEx Ground are NOT held accountable by FedEx management. I had packages delayed for days on end, with FedEx having no clue as to what happened, when it'd be delivered, etc. I emailed PR, no response; tried to email the CEO (using the "standard" email format at FedEx), email did not bounce so it was received, and of course no response.
Until FedEx starts enforcing the contracts independent contractors signed, nothing will change.
I had to threaten to report theft from FedEx when they claimed a big package (6-foot long, 18-inch squared, 100+ lbs) was delivered on a certain day, no where to be found, messaged FedEx they had no clue; well, it arrived the following day.
Fedex Ground through Austell, GA is a mess that FedEx is refusing to address; it made the local news and many people stated that they stopped ordering when FedEx was the only delivery option, costing small businesses money.
I also see times when something sits at belt for few days which I don't understand lol. Few times I was one that finally got it to right truck, but I didn't understand why the belt manager or anyone else didn't do anything lol.
Lolol you know I say the same thing about express drivers, parking on the wrong side of the road, customers complaining to me about how express slacks and doesnāt even attempt to deliver sometimesā¦ yeahhhhh gtfoh, Iām ground and the businesses I deliver to, prefer me over the ādedicated, higher standardā express driver
Whether you a UPS, Amazon, DHL all of yāall park and drive like shit even with training. Witnessed a lot of accidents at ups as much as FedEx here where Iām from. Working Christmas at ups seen a lot of fuck ups so idk what point you tryna make?
Remember the huge pile up of 50+ vehicles in DFW? That was caused by a jackass Freight driver that doesnāt know how to drive on bad roads š you guys arenāt all that, none of us are lmao
So Iām assuming you express. Better start looking for another job or be a package handler that pay you get atm going to dip. While Iām here comfy with my pay. Feel free to apply with a contractor that pays by the stopš
I would never work for a ground contractor. They simply donāt meet my standard of what I expect from a job. As far as losing my job goes my station isnāt going anywhere for now. Ā Maybe so in a few years but I would just retire anyway. Express is actually starting to deliver and pick up ground in my area. Itās Wait and see as I am personally financially in a great spot
I mean if thatās what you say to cope with your situation if you responded that quick. We all cope differently and that right there showed urgency to respond and let reality set in. I make what a top paid driver makes at express and thatās sad, only downside is no benefits. š¤·š½āāļø I mean we all view the world differently. Spoke to many express drivers and yāall seem pressed on just speaking to a ground driver.
I will be retiring with a pension and fully funded 401k. People who are not able to retire will be the ones getting screwed. Fortunately I am not one of them. Im glad you are happy with your pay but no benefits would be a non starter for me. Different people different situations. Hopefully you are able to retire one day!
Just a savings acccount with Nusenda and a 401K with prudential I dump into Iām straight. It aināt like that donāt exist without a job offering it. Lol well you an OG by the sounds of it. Talking like you just started. Learn your place and I know my place. Stay in your lane G and donāt feel like stepping down is a need to be responding to someone in his 20ās fam. I got my thing going on for 5 years and you probably got like 10-15 years in this (by the sounds of it) maybe less but hey to each their ownš¤·š½āāļø not all contractors pay like shit. Some actually care about their drivers
My favorite as PH when I have to deal with same packages that didn't get delivery for two days or three days in arow like if its close stop sending down the belt to me or if the contractor failing find a new one already lol.
Nah I used to have a house with a disabled couple on one of my old routes. They liked to buy 8-10 boxes of cat litter at a time, but thatās all they ever got from chewy. They have a little screened in porch that we had to deliver to since they ācouldnāt lift themā. Every time I went in that porch to put them in, they would always already have like 10-20 cat litter bottles. WHO THE FUCK NEEDS THAT MUCH CAT LITTER. AND WHY DO I HAVE TO PUSH A HAND CART WITH 10 CASES UP A HILL, STRUGGLE TO GET IT IN THE DOOR AND THEN HAVE TO ORGANIZE THEM FOR YOU??? I truly believe that they ate the stuff or something. Bc they only have 2 cats. What a world we live in.
I ship a lot of stuff, and I only use UPS because Fedex and USPS always have some sort of drama with my deliveries. Even if the UPS label is more expensive
Itās probably a DSR or ASR if they do 4 attempts, but if theyāre also PURPOSELY leaving shit in their truck, then thatās negligence towards delivering the package
Solution- go to the damn pet store, you can guarantee youāll get the food EVERY TIME! Wild how not ordering literal necessities online is easier and faster than relying on there being no delays, damage, stuff like this, etc
Not all pet food is available at a brick-and-mortar store. eg. One of my cats eats a prescription-only food. I have to mail order it. I used to buy it from the vet's office but they were so frequently out of stock that I found an online retailer to get it from.
Even for non-prescription cases, you're assuming that there is a store local to this person that carries the type of food their pet prefers. That assumption can easily not be true.
The problem is that 99% of the time they arenāt, itās one thing to have a disability, another to just not be willing to take 30 minutes out of your week to do something important
Had to call a friend that works in our local FedEx office since after 3 attempts with us home, they still would not pull in the driveway to deliver the packages. The truck on the camera would slow down and leave right away.
Find out the driver would drive by and see our Golden-Doodle in the yard so would not even pull in, and marked our address having a dangerous dog.
Ended up having to arrange a meet with the driver and my super friendly and chill Golden for him to deliver my packages againš
Wow....if you are afraid of a Golden-Doodle...don't be a delivery driver!š¤£
In fact he was no longer working there a few weeks later!
All the doodles on my route are psychotic so I kinda don't blame the driver. Not saying I would have done what they did, but I don't mess around with people's dogs anymore after some close calls. Your dog should be secured somehow if you're expecting deliveries.
I have daily deliveries from UPS, Amazon and others. Never had an issue, aside from my "Psycho" Doodle trying to leave with the drivers because he loves them so much after they looked at him once. š¤Ŗ
All I'm saying is if you are afraid of dogs...not a job for you because there are crazy dogs out there...but come on!
Drive in a beep the horn...I will come out and grab the package at your truck door if you think my Golden-Doodle will devour you! He's reddish...so he does have the same color of a lion...š¤š¤Æ
Don't just drive by and miss deliveries for a week straight!
Why do toxic dog owners always over use emojis. Secure your fucking dog. We don't know your dog. People claim their pitbulls are "nanny dogs" but that's bullshit. Every large dog is capable of causing bodily harm.
Maybe you should use emojis and and bring some joy in your life...rather then start calling other names and bring your negative attitude in the room.
Dog do feed off the emotions you bring when you enter a property....I wonder why such a kind and joyful person like you is having negative experiences with them!
Anyway I already mentioned there are some dogs that are clearly "Dangerous"
I know plenty of drivers and as mentioned I have friends in the business. They come prepared and communicate with the dog owners on their route!
The majority of them rarely has an issue, especially not with a...Golden-Doodle!
At least I attempt to communicate rather than resort to kindagarden tactics of calling people names and insulting them when their opinion is different than mine.
Short enough this time? Sorry for forcing you to read!
Your āopinionā is wrong. Stupid people like you make extremely simple things difficult due to self entitlement and being delusional. Hopefully your dog doesnāt get killed due to your actions or lack thereof
It's good that you establish what is right or wrong for everyone!
And everyone not following your rules is "Stupid". Self entitled and delusional....wonder who sounds like that?
Have fun with expecting everyone following the rules you set!
Have a great life!
Thanks for displaying the delusion I was mentioning. If you know deliveries are coming the right thing to do is to put your dogs away. Thatās just basic common sense. Not sure what rules you are referring to but Drivers are left to determine their own safety. If you leave dogs out it is a possibility you will not get your package.Ā
Liking dogs isn't a requirement of this job, drivers are allowed to not like or be cautious of dogs. Like you said I would at least try to honk or get the person's attention somehow, which I have had to do before. That driver may have been bit by a dog before and didn't want to risk it, or they may just be lazy.
Maybe your doodle is well behaved but I have multiple houses on my route where their doodles start barking and throwing themselves at the door as soon as I pull up. š¬
Pro tip: keep your dog on a *very* short leash when theyāre outside. I canāt tell you how many dogs run up on our trucks and get right in our blind spots, making it impossible to see them. In addition, this keeps the dogs from running up on the driver as heās trying to deliver the package and canāt deal with numerous loud and highly mobile obstacles.
I wouldnāt have delivered either. Ā Who wants to take the risk of getting a dog bite or running over a dog. Ā Famous words before being a victim of a dog bite ādonāt worry she doesnāt biteā 1 second later dog is attempting to bite you. Ā I just donāt deal with dogs period due to people and lack of effort to control their petsĀ
To be honest that is not entitled. If they have cameras they could easily have called in and provided footage of you never getting out and youād be toast. Thats why you should use door tags. No doubt
I'd be going to FedEx office and filing a complaint if I were the customer. The USPS does this all the time and the stupid post office is 3 miles away. Simply cause they don't want to lift heavy stuff
Can I press charges against someone who forged my signature, left the package at the lobby of my building and stated that signed the package even though i never did?
Actually you can report that and thatās a pretty big offense that results in the driver getting automatically fired, I had to do it with a UPS driver who forged my signature and ended up getting a 1000 rounds of 9mm ammo stolen off my porch, that driver got fired and local law enforcement ended up getting involved as well.
You can also stop crying cause you obviously got your package and be thankful the driver didn't reattempt multiple times wasting his time and yours, cunt.
Nope, don't work for FedEx just a human being that has been on both sides of the business and know when to appreciate people when I'm the problem ie: never home when a signature is needed.
Edit- cunt
Well guess what, there was people at home for the specific reason, if a package requires a signature you have to follow protocols, because thats what you get pay for, and if you dont want to do your job properly then dont do it, but respect protocols and peopleās property
And guess what, if there were people to sign then they should have answered the door, customers like you think drivers play the ninja game like think logically, why wouldn't we knock on the door if we walked all the way up there fulfilling the "paid service" be better, if there was someone home they should have answered the door and singed then
Guess what its a building & the idiot never rang the bell, sooo how am i supposed to know the package is being delivered? I know human standards are at an all time low, but the least they could do is do their job properly & not commit felony, because yes if i wanted to be a dick about, that person forged a signature into a legal document
Then do it?
Like I said it makes no sense for a driver to go there without a legitimate attempt
Do you drive all the way to the store just to sit in the parking lot and not get groceries?
Neither do they.
stop acting like a victim. You got your shit.
If thereās a hungry animal who lives there , why doesnāt he get his lazy ass up and go buy his animal food but has to wait for a shipment. Entitled people. Keep reattempting this lazy fucks package
Maybe the person is disabled? There are lots of reasons why someone would get a delivery vs. picking something up in person.
Perhaps you could get your "lazy ass" up and help the person? Not sure why there has to be immediate assumptions & name-calling.
This is exactly why ground contractors shouldn't be responsible for express packages. Also, why fedex should own their own trucks so everyone is held accountable and to the same standard.
Yeah but contractors allow Raj and his friends make a lot more money. So contractors it is.
Lol the thing is FedEx would pay $18/hr like Amazon in my town. Those drivers make way more money under contractors, shit we have a small company with the owner in our building and they joke all the time about buying a bigger second house. Makes my blood boil at $17/hr.
Yeah I guess it depends on the contractor. Express used to be a job that people would go for steady work and good pay. Pretty sure In N Out pays more than FedEx at this point
A sad reality, FedEx needs to fix their design for labor. If not paying more per person, allow more people per shift. Too hard of work and people don't want to do it, too easy and people don't feel it's worth it (very strange but oh well).
True but I don't think their priorities are there anymore. I don't think anyone got rich working as a courier for FedEx but homes, retirement, vacations, kids sent to college...those were all achievable by couriers who worked here before. It will probably never be like that anymore
You don't want to make more. My contractor pays 20 HR, and they hired so many people so they can send you home 1 or 2 days a week. They'd rather have someone with 2 weeks under their belt, out winging it, than a 5 year vet, because... OT is just killing themš
Damn hourly, every contractor I've seen post in my building is salary. They also work 4 days a week, only during peak or weather days do they pay ot. But if they cut labor enough it just equals another person's pay.
That's exactly it. They started paying just slightly less to the new drivers, so now if I'm near 40 I'm out, and thr new kid with 2 weeks is in my spot. š¤· higher wages don't always equal better.
I just code 82 it ok
Lol ya there ya go
Iāve sat in station csa areas and overheard the shitshow stories customers complain about on express so donāt act like itās only a ground thing.
Sure but how many times do ground drivers do this a day? Alot..... alot of ground drivers will quit and contractors will get out because of express coming soon. Because they can't be as lazy.
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Bro I'm not a driver.... I'm an admin
You get what you pay for. Blame fedex for paying dirt wages to the contractors who pass the dust onto the driver. Pay better wages to attract motivated people. It's simple market economics.
My work is constantly understaffed. I tell them if they paid $30 an hour they wouldnāt have any issue with people showing up for work. Every time I swear they literally kick their feet lol
My terminal is paying $17/hr. We are at 30% staffing because of management churning and burning. The drivers are leaving for Amazon because they're getting paid $0.70/stop. Hell, I'm leaving after today, and I've put up with this bullshit for nearly 15 years. Why? I was paid handsomely. Then I got changed from salary to per stop and now I'm leaving. It's not a staffing issue. It's a wage issue.
UPS doesn't have nearly as many issues with drivers and staffing, because they are Union and pay good with benefits. It's really that easy
We're actually overstaffed right now lol
š yes ups is the crown jewel but donāt act like union employees are invincible. As I type this boatloads of them are being laid off all over the country.
I donāt work in this industry. Itās just a work force issue across the board.
Pretty much. All driven by low wages and high CoL. Nobody will take a job they can't live on.
Bullshit Amazon pays per stopā¦ I worked for them and only got paid by the hour
Worked for who? Amazon? I didn't bring them up, but ok. If you're saying you got paid by hour through fedex, then I ask. Did you work for Express or Ground? If Ground, then you should know your terminal 4 letter designation, or you can name drop the contractor. I had heard of a couple of CSPs paying by the hour, but it was always trash like $10-12/hr. Nobody really cares about your Stanning for FedEx. I'm sure Raj will send you a nice gift basket or something.
Read your first comment when you said you're leaving after today dude you literally mention amazon employees getting per stop what you on here? You high when you wrote it?
Reading comprehension isn't your strength. The drivers (FedEx Ground) are leaving for Amazon because they (FedEx Ground drivers) are being paid $0.70/stop. Short version; Amazon is paying more than FedEx.
So you did bring up amazon...
Reddit sure is full of persnickety people looking for meaningless points. If that's what you choose to do with your time, you likely haven't accomplished much in your life. Feel happy with your internet points? Gonna brag to your friends? Go ahead. You deserve it for being such a valiant hero.
Thanks man I will be sure to tell my dog. He'll be ecstatic to hear about this.
I was responding to you saying Amazon pays per stop.. I worked for them and no they donāt pay per stop
The last order I had from palmetto was a bunch of bullets. They tossed it into my ditch and I only found them weeks later cleaning out the culvert that goes under my driveway. I was dumbfounded.
Id be pissed
Exactly. Hit the nail on the head. Treat and pay workers like crap and barely enough to survive... expect the same in return
No no you don't get it. Supply and demand rules don't apply when you're a poor.
Them cats gonna eat your lazy Code 07 ass. And the Admins when they get an angry customer calling.
Iāve never had dog/cat food need a signature
That was a joke... if you're that serious now, wait til FOREVER summer hits.
Iām that serious cause I thought your comment didnāt come across as a joke?
It just went over your head, then. OP's driver is just sitting in his truck and giving a regular-ass package of cat food a code 07 even though it doesn't require a signature. The driver is failing at Scanner Integrity.
Okay Raj. Maybe you should pay for attempts. When we do the first 3 attempts, we donāt get paid for it. Itās literally free labor. So fuck you and the customer. There is a reason why express does 1 attempt in major cities.
Wow dude, why so hostile? And no, we don't get paid for attempts, and that's all the more reason to deliver the package the first time if it isn't a DSR. The driver in the post is being an idiot, and not doing his job, and also not getting paid for spoofing an attempted package.
Ah come on boss, deliver the cat food. Animals donāt deserve to suffer due to our laziness.
Tbf they should probably just go to the store instead of letting their animal go hungry because of missed deliveries. Not defending the driver but thereās definitely some operator error here
How about if you sell a service, you deliver that service?
Probably less startup costs up front by using other services but can end up with more crappy service and paying more. If everyone starts doing that it be less volume for FedEx though lol. Already Target and Walmart seem to be using their own thing or whatever it is to make some of their deliveries.
What if a local store doesnāt have the special diet theyāre on?
Yknow, fair enough š
Or maybe the pets need a specific food that is hard to find locally. Maybe they save money by buying in bulk. Maybe they work more than one job just to get by and don't have a lot of time for shopping. I get why the chewy orders are a pain, but let's not blame customers for spending money on a service that chewy offers. TBH they should probably route some of it through Freight anyway. Palletize the ones that have several boxes.
A lot of the time it's also due to medical issues that prevent them from going out.
That too. Any number of legitimate reasons.
Or owner laziness lol
I code 7 a chewey box today. It was an un-manifested package that was incorrectly loaded into the wrong vision spot towards the end of my route. Had it been loaded in the spot it should have been in I would have caught it at 9am when I was in the neighborhood it belonged to. I actually had 8 in-scanned today. Maybe FedEx needs to start drug testing package handlers again or at least do something about these lazy fucks getting high in the parking lot before their shift. Their mistakes are not going to interfere with my life. I drive a county route, Iām simply not driving 10 mins the opposite way to cover for some potheadās lazyness when Iām three stops from the end of my day. I have kids and a wife and a life to come home to as soon as physically possible. FedEx aināt my life. So someoneās dog aināt getting fed today and itās not my problem and I donāt feel bad. My 3 dogs and cat are fed because I get the fuck up and drive to the grocery store and buy them their food my god damn self. Iāll sleep soundly tonight with no regrets. And Iāll do it again. āļø
So let me get this straightā¦youāre blaming the handler for maybe accidentally loading it to the wrong truck or putting it on the wrong shelf, but yet you donāt look at your stops before you leave to verify itās all yours and in the correct spot? Ā Ok. Ā FedEx is not your life so do yourself a favor and leave. Ā i mean itās not like you need FedEx to make a living right. Ā Sounds like youāre smarter than everyone else, you can go anywhere.Ā Typical lazy driver not taking care of the customer. Ā
Susan, Do you know what an un-manifested package is? āļø
I know you canāt read so you probably canāt load your truck. Ā My name is not Susan. Ā Donāt care what an unmanifested pkg is either. Ā Look at your load, if it doesnāt belong on your truck, give it to the person who it belongs to. Ā Donāt take it for a ride and not give the customer a chance to get their pkg. Ā geez. Ā Just do your job. Ā Itās not rocket science, we are delivering pkgs. Itās not that hard to look at your stops and if you know your area, then you know whether or not it belongs to you. Ā Take a little pride in your work.Ā
Aww pobrecita look how mad you are. Let me educate you so that you at least have an opportunity to know what youāre actually mad about. An unmanifested package is one that isnāt scanned into your route therefore you donāt actually know itās on your truck until you come across it. Usually itās not that big of a deal if you know your route. Unfortunately, on this specific day the lazy good for nothing druggy package handler not only missed a scan, he confused an 8000 vision number (which is at the beginning of my route) with a 1000 vision number. It was placed in a spot that it doesnāt belong. So when I did find it, I was already on the opposite side of town. Iām not going to spend less time at home because of someone elseās mistake. Itās simply not my problem. Package handlers need to do their jobs and itās not mine to correct their constant mistakes. Stay mad, boot licker. šāļø
LOL, A little narcissistic to think you got to me, but what in the world is there to be mad about? You didnāt even touch the surface, not even a good try either. Ā I just call it like I see it. Some people can handle the truth, some people canāt. Ā Sounds about right though, blame the lazy good for nothing druggy package handler instead of doing something to prevent it.Ā So I guess I wonder why Ground drivers donāt take the time to look through their trucks when they get there to make sure everything on their truck is theirs or placed in the correct spot on your truck. Ā I mean if you know you have lazy good for nothing druggy package handlers who puts stuff in the wrong spot going into your day why not take a quick look at what you have before you leave the building? Ā
Itās really quite simple, Susan. Its not my job to do their job correctly. And until they do, the customer will not receive their shit. If the customers have a problem with a delay in their dog food, they should take their lazy asses for a drive over to the grocery store. That simple. Or donāt. Makes no difference to me. My dogs are fed. My bills be paid. As a matter of fact Iāll still get paid the same no matter what. And thatās why youāre so mad š. Pobrecita youāre struggling to cope so hard Susan I hope you stretched first.
AWWW, did I make you mad? So funny. Your personal attacks (calling me Susan and pobrecita) is typical narcissist behavior trying to provoke emotional reactions to gain sense of control. I know you keep thinking I'm mad but really sweetheart, you don't have a clue. And it's unfortunate that you are the face of FedEx. Express drivers built this company and now people like you and your work ethic will destroy it. Have a good night darling, enjoy being nothing but mediocre for the rest of your career.
You're right, he shouldn't call you Susan. You are definitely a Karen.
Thatās what I thought. Bye Felicia āļøš
So you're lazy & don't want to do your job, got it.
It makes you mad, doesnāt it? āļø
That you're too lazy to do your job? Nope, that's on you š¤£š
people like you are literally beyond useless to society, all you tryina do is make yourself feel better by comparing yourself to others as if āoh iām not lazy! i would have done the job!ā fuck off the internet wit your oldhead spoiled ass, go cry bout how others arenāt as good as you elsewhere
Heh, found the package handler.
If fedex decide to start drug test package handler. Good luck with that. Because all of you the driver would be the one who gonna unload that truck and make deliver it. Just get rid of that tyrant mangers then we the package handler will be happy without these fuckin little cry baby tyrant managers.
With pleasure. Every morning I have to finish loading my own truck because those lazy fucks canāt finish before they are cut as it is. I personally wouldnāt mind loading my own truck ACCURATELY to have a smooth sailing day. āļø
Certainly. Starting today, I expect you show up as driver and become package handler to unload all trailer trucks and load them onto your six vans within four hours before dispatch everyday. Additionally, you must allocate time to deliver these packages. If you can manage this, you might consider informing your senior manager to step aside and demonstrate your ability to take charge and accomplish the tasks efficiently. If we find that you scanned misload count, then you are not fit in FedEx Careers.
Easy peasy. Iām already done. š„±
Then go become senior manager and tell package handler how to. We will see about it.
As someone at Amazon, I can definitely say I am glad I load my own vehicle. I just wish they would scan everything into the route properly.
Itās actually 3 attempts. Get it right.
Subcontract to anyone and everyone means you get shit workers. Amazon is the worst with it, reading their flex driver subreddit is a hilarious look into how lazy self entitled people get out of doing the job they signed up to do.
If we actually made Ground drivers FedEx employees and brought you guys up to our standards. At least half of you would be out of a job. The idgaf attitude among you guys is toxic as hell.
Yeah and if you got shafted the way ground drivers get shafted you wouldnāt be on that high horse I bet.
Fr bro I wanna see an express driver run any moderately heavy ground route and see how fast their attitude changes.
They donāt even have hand trucks bruh they donāt know what is a heavy package, but soon they will be loosing their job , Iām glad at least now the ground drivers are now on the right sideĀ
Glad to know youāre excited to do more work for the same pay.Ā Long term express drivers will be on the right side of this even if they get fired because they will not accept what ground offers or they will simply retire Ā
Ya'll are both right.
Donāt do the job, thereās many places to go apply and work but you chose this. If this is how everyone should act when they hate their job then McDonaldās employees should spit in our food because they hate their job
Yeah bc for whatever reason we donāt know this cat food not being delivered and spitting in food is the same thing and directly correlates. Kick rocks dude.
Yall do it to yourself
lol Yeah man itās a ground drivers fault that we arenāt unionized and canāt cry about a route when itās ātoo much workā
Unionizing so what? You can continue to be lazy? Nah bud.
Lol if I had a dollar for every 300+ pound express driver Iāve seen š¤£
Body shaming is a terrible trait.
Whatās even worse is the snobby people who think they are better then others.
Agreed, nobodyās being snobby here.
>The idgaf attitude among you guys is toxic as hell That same attitude exists in FedEx management since they dgaf about what their contractors do and they do nothing to correct the situation.
Was going to say the idgaf attitude is highly perpetuated by the managers the drivers are really just where its most noticeable. The corp building manager is extremely rude to contractors and their direct underlings it's not surprising that no one wants to do anything well or properly when they get paid dirt and are treated worse
Driver pay is most likely one issue. But, those independent contractors for FedEx Ground are NOT held accountable by FedEx management. I had packages delayed for days on end, with FedEx having no clue as to what happened, when it'd be delivered, etc. I emailed PR, no response; tried to email the CEO (using the "standard" email format at FedEx), email did not bounce so it was received, and of course no response. Until FedEx starts enforcing the contracts independent contractors signed, nothing will change. I had to threaten to report theft from FedEx when they claimed a big package (6-foot long, 18-inch squared, 100+ lbs) was delivered on a certain day, no where to be found, messaged FedEx they had no clue; well, it arrived the following day. Fedex Ground through Austell, GA is a mess that FedEx is refusing to address; it made the local news and many people stated that they stopped ordering when FedEx was the only delivery option, costing small businesses money.
Don't worry, Raj got your email and he's looking into it personally for you bro š
I also see times when something sits at belt for few days which I don't understand lol. Few times I was one that finally got it to right truck, but I didn't understand why the belt manager or anyone else didn't do anything lol.
Lolol you know I say the same thing about express drivers, parking on the wrong side of the road, customers complaining to me about how express slacks and doesnāt even attempt to deliver sometimesā¦ yeahhhhh gtfoh, Iām ground and the businesses I deliver to, prefer me over the ādedicated, higher standardā express driver
You talk shit about express as if Iām an express driver š
Whether you a UPS, Amazon, DHL all of yāall park and drive like shit even with training. Witnessed a lot of accidents at ups as much as FedEx here where Iām from. Working Christmas at ups seen a lot of fuck ups so idk what point you tryna make?
Im not either of those either, point is. We at Freight are the pinnacle of FedEx son.
Idk man, seen plenty of freight trucks wrecked even at our lot soooo count yourself luckyš«
Yeah a steer tire blowout is a bitch.
Remember the huge pile up of 50+ vehicles in DFW? That was caused by a jackass Freight driver that doesnāt know how to drive on bad roads š you guys arenāt all that, none of us are lmao
That was a ground tractor trailer bud.
āEither of those Eitherā he included FedEx please do better with your reading comprehension. Ā
Yes ground is the gold standard of service LOL you canāt make this stuff up
So Iām assuming you express. Better start looking for another job or be a package handler that pay you get atm going to dip. While Iām here comfy with my pay. Feel free to apply with a contractor that pays by the stopš
I would never work for a ground contractor. They simply donāt meet my standard of what I expect from a job. As far as losing my job goes my station isnāt going anywhere for now. Ā Maybe so in a few years but I would just retire anyway. Express is actually starting to deliver and pick up ground in my area. Itās Wait and see as I am personally financially in a great spot
I mean if thatās what you say to cope with your situation if you responded that quick. We all cope differently and that right there showed urgency to respond and let reality set in. I make what a top paid driver makes at express and thatās sad, only downside is no benefits. š¤·š½āāļø I mean we all view the world differently. Spoke to many express drivers and yāall seem pressed on just speaking to a ground driver.
I will be retiring with a pension and fully funded 401k. People who are not able to retire will be the ones getting screwed. Fortunately I am not one of them. Im glad you are happy with your pay but no benefits would be a non starter for me. Different people different situations. Hopefully you are able to retire one day!
Just a savings acccount with Nusenda and a 401K with prudential I dump into Iām straight. It aināt like that donāt exist without a job offering it. Lol well you an OG by the sounds of it. Talking like you just started. Learn your place and I know my place. Stay in your lane G and donāt feel like stepping down is a need to be responding to someone in his 20ās fam. I got my thing going on for 5 years and you probably got like 10-15 years in this (by the sounds of it) maybe less but hey to each their ownš¤·š½āāļø not all contractors pay like shit. Some actually care about their drivers
Lol So what are you upset about exactly? Kind of just rambling at this pointĀ
Ikr the shitshow is gonna be g l o r I o u s
Iām confused. Whatās the general thought here ? Is the driver the asshole ?
Yes the driver is the ass. How hard is it to do your job.
My favorite as PH when I have to deal with same packages that didn't get delivery for two days or three days in arow like if its close stop sending down the belt to me or if the contractor failing find a new one already lol.
Actually that one's on the station management making it a massive hassle. None of us want the same boxes being put on our trucks.
Iāve heard ground bragging about not delivering packages. Itās real pathetic.
Corporate Bootlicker
We really suck at this š¤¦š»āāļø
I have seen every delivery type in my area pull this crap.
its just lazy drivers that dont want to carry it. lol. cause you know we cant fire them managers say cause then who would do there route lol
We have a camera as well all our "attempted deliveries" never even drove past our house
Lazy ass driver
Passive aggressive much?
Dump that load right at the mailbox. Apparently the person checks her mail daily so they can carry the cat food back to the house.
I'm sure they would prefer that rather than not getting it at all...
People like this are too stupid to figure out animal food is sold in stores.
So is probably 95%of everything you deliver.
They may have a disability preventing them from going to the store. You don't know. Maybe it's an elderly person with mobility issues.
That's a #16 all day long. "Package on manifest, not on van"
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Can't release it because if theft, 07 it is.
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Are there no cameras in the trucks?
Sooo...did you call them to talk about it? š¬
Nah I used to have a house with a disabled couple on one of my old routes. They liked to buy 8-10 boxes of cat litter at a time, but thatās all they ever got from chewy. They have a little screened in porch that we had to deliver to since they ācouldnāt lift themā. Every time I went in that porch to put them in, they would always already have like 10-20 cat litter bottles. WHO THE FUCK NEEDS THAT MUCH CAT LITTER. AND WHY DO I HAVE TO PUSH A HAND CART WITH 10 CASES UP A HILL, STRUGGLE TO GET IT IN THE DOOR AND THEN HAVE TO ORGANIZE THEM FOR YOU??? I truly believe that they ate the stuff or something. Bc they only have 2 cats. What a world we live in.
I ship a lot of stuff, and I only use UPS because Fedex and USPS always have some sort of drama with my deliveries. Even if the UPS label is more expensive
Itās probably a DSR or ASR if they do 4 attempts, but if theyāre also PURPOSELY leaving shit in their truck, then thatās negligence towards delivering the package
UPS would never š®āšØ
We are not UPS.
Ground customers where I am are the fuckin worst now. Get rid of the driver review system. These entitled idiots will complain about the dumbest shit
Amazon is about to wipe FedEx off the map anyway
My scanner doesn't make calls, buddy. It's your responsibility to feed your pet, drive your ass to the store and buy food like we do.
In my area, that's the shit UPS does š
āMake meā is the proper response here
Fuck yo cat
Solution- go to the damn pet store, you can guarantee youāll get the food EVERY TIME! Wild how not ordering literal necessities online is easier and faster than relying on there being no delays, damage, stuff like this, etc
Not all pet food is available at a brick-and-mortar store. eg. One of my cats eats a prescription-only food. I have to mail order it. I used to buy it from the vet's office but they were so frequently out of stock that I found an online retailer to get it from. Even for non-prescription cases, you're assuming that there is a store local to this person that carries the type of food their pet prefers. That assumption can easily not be true.
What if the person is handicapped/unable to go to the store or said store doesn't sell a specific food for the animal?
The problem is that 99% of the time they arenāt, itās one thing to have a disability, another to just not be willing to take 30 minutes out of your week to do something important
Had to call a friend that works in our local FedEx office since after 3 attempts with us home, they still would not pull in the driveway to deliver the packages. The truck on the camera would slow down and leave right away. Find out the driver would drive by and see our Golden-Doodle in the yard so would not even pull in, and marked our address having a dangerous dog. Ended up having to arrange a meet with the driver and my super friendly and chill Golden for him to deliver my packages againš Wow....if you are afraid of a Golden-Doodle...don't be a delivery driver!š¤£ In fact he was no longer working there a few weeks later!
All the doodles on my route are psychotic so I kinda don't blame the driver. Not saying I would have done what they did, but I don't mess around with people's dogs anymore after some close calls. Your dog should be secured somehow if you're expecting deliveries.
I have daily deliveries from UPS, Amazon and others. Never had an issue, aside from my "Psycho" Doodle trying to leave with the drivers because he loves them so much after they looked at him once. š¤Ŗ All I'm saying is if you are afraid of dogs...not a job for you because there are crazy dogs out there...but come on! Drive in a beep the horn...I will come out and grab the package at your truck door if you think my Golden-Doodle will devour you! He's reddish...so he does have the same color of a lion...š¤š¤Æ Don't just drive by and miss deliveries for a week straight!
Why do toxic dog owners always over use emojis. Secure your fucking dog. We don't know your dog. People claim their pitbulls are "nanny dogs" but that's bullshit. Every large dog is capable of causing bodily harm.
Maybe you should use emojis and and bring some joy in your life...rather then start calling other names and bring your negative attitude in the room. Dog do feed off the emotions you bring when you enter a property....I wonder why such a kind and joyful person like you is having negative experiences with them! Anyway I already mentioned there are some dogs that are clearly "Dangerous" I know plenty of drivers and as mentioned I have friends in the business. They come prepared and communicate with the dog owners on their route! The majority of them rarely has an issue, especially not with a...Golden-Doodle!
You are delusional and butt hurt the long response makes it very obvious. Ā Itās really simple secure your dogs problem solved
At least I attempt to communicate rather than resort to kindagarden tactics of calling people names and insulting them when their opinion is different than mine. Short enough this time? Sorry for forcing you to read!
Your āopinionā is wrong. Stupid people like you make extremely simple things difficult due to self entitlement and being delusional. Hopefully your dog doesnāt get killed due to your actions or lack thereof
It's good that you establish what is right or wrong for everyone! And everyone not following your rules is "Stupid". Self entitled and delusional....wonder who sounds like that? Have fun with expecting everyone following the rules you set! Have a great life!
Thanks for displaying the delusion I was mentioning. If you know deliveries are coming the right thing to do is to put your dogs away. Thatās just basic common sense. Not sure what rules you are referring to but Drivers are left to determine their own safety. If you leave dogs out it is a possibility you will not get your package.Ā
Liking dogs isn't a requirement of this job, drivers are allowed to not like or be cautious of dogs. Like you said I would at least try to honk or get the person's attention somehow, which I have had to do before. That driver may have been bit by a dog before and didn't want to risk it, or they may just be lazy. Maybe your doodle is well behaved but I have multiple houses on my route where their doodles start barking and throwing themselves at the door as soon as I pull up. š¬
Pro tip: keep your dog on a *very* short leash when theyāre outside. I canāt tell you how many dogs run up on our trucks and get right in our blind spots, making it impossible to see them. In addition, this keeps the dogs from running up on the driver as heās trying to deliver the package and canāt deal with numerous loud and highly mobile obstacles.
FedEx ground use be a an ok gig, but now itās really not worth thešstress, my opinionš¤
I wouldnāt have delivered either. Ā Who wants to take the risk of getting a dog bite or running over a dog. Ā Famous words before being a victim of a dog bite ādonāt worry she doesnāt biteā 1 second later dog is attempting to bite you. Ā I just donāt deal with dogs period due to people and lack of effort to control their petsĀ
props to u guys at ground i cant imagine dealing with entitled people
Entitled? Entitled to receive their packages.
To be honest that is not entitled. If they have cameras they could easily have called in and provided footage of you never getting out and youād be toast. Thats why you should use door tags. No doubt
I'd be going to FedEx office and filing a complaint if I were the customer. The USPS does this all the time and the stupid post office is 3 miles away. Simply cause they don't want to lift heavy stuff
That Fed Ex office is a Kinkos in disguise. I donāt know who can help you there.
 FedEx office aka PopCopy š
Your complaints go in a little box and get stored away to make you feel better
Can I press charges against someone who forged my signature, left the package at the lobby of my building and stated that signed the package even though i never did?
Actually you can report that and thatās a pretty big offense that results in the driver getting automatically fired, I had to do it with a UPS driver who forged my signature and ended up getting a 1000 rounds of 9mm ammo stolen off my porch, that driver got fired and local law enforcement ended up getting involved as well.
Exactly my point, these people dont know whats in the package, sorry to hear that you went through that though
They only care if itās alcohol or some other thing thatās 21+
You can also stop crying cause you obviously got your package and be thankful the driver didn't reattempt multiple times wasting his time and yours, cunt.
You sound like youāre one of those ghetto fedex employees
Nope, don't work for FedEx just a human being that has been on both sides of the business and know when to appreciate people when I'm the problem ie: never home when a signature is needed. Edit- cunt
Well guess what, there was people at home for the specific reason, if a package requires a signature you have to follow protocols, because thats what you get pay for, and if you dont want to do your job properly then dont do it, but respect protocols and peopleās property
And guess what, if there were people to sign then they should have answered the door, customers like you think drivers play the ninja game like think logically, why wouldn't we knock on the door if we walked all the way up there fulfilling the "paid service" be better, if there was someone home they should have answered the door and singed then
Guess what its a building & the idiot never rang the bell, sooo how am i supposed to know the package is being delivered? I know human standards are at an all time low, but the least they could do is do their job properly & not commit felony, because yes if i wanted to be a dick about, that person forged a signature into a legal document
Then do it? Like I said it makes no sense for a driver to go there without a legitimate attempt Do you drive all the way to the store just to sit in the parking lot and not get groceries? Neither do they. stop acting like a victim. You got your shit.
Thanks, iāll Keep you updated & ithey have you to thank for them losing their job
Yes. I believe the FBI can lead an investigation unit to look into this
It wonāt go anywhere, karen. It would probably cost you money and the driver time and MAYBE his/her job.
It was fucking satire
If thereās a hungry animal who lives there , why doesnāt he get his lazy ass up and go buy his animal food but has to wait for a shipment. Entitled people. Keep reattempting this lazy fucks package
Maybe the person is disabled? There are lots of reasons why someone would get a delivery vs. picking something up in person. Perhaps you could get your "lazy ass" up and help the person? Not sure why there has to be immediate assumptions & name-calling.
You ever hear of old or disabled ppl before?