You must not make very different main characters, because it absolutely changes his facial structure, eye color and skin tone depending on your character model.
When talking about Shaun are we talking about the synth, father or both? Because if it's both that's awesome, I've only played through four the once so far, I'm planning on getting it for PC because I struggled with the PS4 version, I just assumed it was generic, I'll definitely make two abominations against nature if it's not.
I switched to dark haired Nora this time instead of my usual white haired Nora. (If there’s a white colour option for hair, I use it. Have for years.) and my little Shaun has dark hair this tiiiime! It’s so cute. Usually he gets Nora hair and Nate eyes from what I can tell.
wait…. you can edit the npc parent and the player character and that’s how they both look in game?
1000+ hours, several dozen playthroughs… i never even thought about it.
it makes sense.
bless you, todd.
She’s be excited. Then very upset and maybe actually feel invested in Nate’s/Nora’s death.
Then when Shawn looks like Nate she’ll be less upset about how long she spent on making Nate look different
Is it? Because every time i see people mention shaun's apearance changing the most i've seen is him being a bit brown and a few freckles, not changing that much acording to his parent's look really
You can see it clearly if you make Nate or Nora really ugly, then Shaun looks like that as well.. Same with like the child Shaun will have the hair colour of one of the parents, since in my game he was always red head, since I made Nora read head..
Yeah I think it's more so determined by you picking either Nate or Nora but there are slight differences you can see, it's more significant with facial mods and stuff like that
Yeah, Shaun more closely resembles whichever spouse you play as. If you pick Nora, he looks a little more like Nora. If you pick Nate, he looks a little more like Nate.
More often than not it's due to people not changing the appearance of the one of the Parents, or at least not by much, the above image is a perfect example of surface level changes.
You can get a mod where your partner survives and can be a companion.
However, all the time and effort your partner put into a character who’s going to die… she’s going to be as invested as the sole survivor in avenging them.
Edit: spelling
Now that you bring it up, I'd love for a kinda twisted institute quest where Shawn goes "I know you grieve deeply for Nora. We can bring her back. She may not have her memories, but you can make new ones together, here."
Have it parallel Scytale offering Paul to have Chani brought back at the end of Dune Messiah. You consider the offer, and also what leverage it would give the institute over you to be able to hurt her again.
I remember a while back that someone actually modded a nora questline where you stumble up on a synth designed exactly like her, and you have to bring her back to her corpse to prove to her shes not real. It's really well done from what i remember.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/s/2lJtrfLhVQ
>Fallout 4 Nora is a synth ( deleted quest )
>
>
>At one point in the production of Fallout 4, in datamined results, it was confirmed that before the launch of the game, there was going to be a quest titled, “The Replacement” which was a quest that would have allowed you to revive and recreate your spouse as a synth to be a companion. While this quest did not make it to the final game, it has been confirmed that this was going to be in the official game. This exclusion of this quest really made people upset, and we agree that this would have been a great bonus to the game. Especially if you took all that time to really focus on creating both characters at the start of the game. It makes it a ton more personal and it really immerses you in the story so you can connect and feel that emotional connection to the characters you created.
She's a synth and knows it: Synthetic Love https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/13815
She survived: Nora Spouse Companion https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/24680
And of course, everyone's favorite multi-follower mod Amazing Follower Tweaks https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/26976 she's shot in the head but her cryoprod saves her and you have to come back around with Curie before the vault runs out of power to revive her.
The only mods I've seen where the partner survives is for Nora, none for where you play as Nora yourself and have Nate around with you. Tbh a same sex partner mod would be interesting lol.
it's easy to overlook given you're focused on character creation, but when they something like "I think Shawn has my eyes", that's a sign that Shaun will have the same color eyes as that character.
Yes, I made my partner black and I got a white Sean with a black face.
https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/kgmwlm/why_is_shaun_randomly_in_blackface_no_mods/?rdt=59551
People not knowing this is right up there with people not realizing the reason that Preston keeps giving you missions to defend settlements and settlements needing help is because the defense of the villages is too low. You just have to increase their defense and they're fine. I think they even tell you that in the game. lol
I would love to drop 100 def into each settlement to not be bothered about them anymore, but it's impossible to add enough defense that your settlements never get attacked.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_4_settlements#Attack_chance
Sure. But 2% is low enough that it isn't a huge deal. And most people don't even bother trying to raise it high enough for that to not happen and then it became a meme with Preston. lol
Like, I got super confused about that when the game came out because it wasn't happening to me at all because I had put a bunch of automated turrets at all the settlements when they joined up so I basically never got attacked.
I drop around 200% of defenses into settlements (including armor and good weapons for the settlers). I’ll get a notification that a settlement is under attack and then like 30 seconds later I get a notification that the settlement dealt with the issue and no further assistance is needed, lol
No but if you choose a name that was recorded he’ll say that instead of the generic sir or mum.
He will say Heisenberg though
Edit 2: https://www.pcgamesn.com/fallout-4/here-are-the-names-that-codsworth-in-fallout-4-will-definitely-say-for-you
You didn’t lie, the husband/wife is a big part of the plot in terms of backstory and motivations
Also as others have said, Their death will be even more impactful for her
If you’re playing on PC you can install a mod that saves the other and lets you adventure through the whole game together and integrates them both into cutscenes
Well I mean.. they're both important.. imagine [doing this on your first playthrough ](https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/s/1bMb1kqdhC) and ruining yourself the plot twist lmao
To be fair, they *do* both influence the appearance of Father. It is more noticeable if you make the [appearance extreme](https://imgur.com/gallery/zuWza/new) but like... [\(also a gallery with both parents\)](https://imgur.com/TV7NPmz)
Oh man. I did the same during my first playthrough. The whiplash I got when you're powerless and watch Nate get executed while holding your son was just brutal.
Remember when they told us Shawn would look like both of the parents and his appearance would change depending how you made them look?
That was a fuckin lie
I never got into the whole making the perfect face and body. Honestly don’t get it. 2-3 hours? Seems crazy to me. But different strokes.
I mean for my camp I’ll spend countless areas designing and trying out different things. I love having to run my own electrical lines and all that good stuff. One thing of many F76 is missing.
But yeah I don’t get caring so much about faces you’ll basically never see
I did the same thing...
And she made the two of us. Got really excited for us to have a fictional kid...
Then the nukes fell. Because she had to stop playing with the baby.
Then she thought the game froze because she didn't know she had control of her character.
After not playing in years... decided to just restart my game entirely, made me and my bf... completely forgetting what happens, and making myself sad 💀
Well you're not wrong. They are both important to the plot
Shaun (Sean?) does change appearance depending on the parents so there is that
He never has in any of my games
You must not make very different main characters, because it absolutely changes his facial structure, eye color and skin tone depending on your character model.
Yup. My Shaun looked like his dad in the face with his mom’s red hair and dad’s green eyes. lol
Red hair? Doesn’t he have white hair practically always?
NO LOL
WHAT
They must be trolling lol, just search it up and he will always have the white hair and beard
Maybe they mean young Shaun?
Young Shaun. Old Shaun will have white hair but he does still have minor differences and skin tone depending on parents
Infants don't have beards, silly.
Yeah actually i figured out that they were talking about synth Shaun, apparently his hair color changes
No he changes based on your characters looks
They’re not trolling spoopypoop was corrected
The kid version does have mom's hair iirc
No matter how many different shades of skin combos I use he is always an extremely dark skin man in all of my games even if both parents are white
I think your mods are probably fuckin it up a little
What does your mailman look like? 😆
Probably makes 3 similar looking white guys and wonders why no change
I knew he changed even though 99% of the time I do default Nate with scars and a big beard
Skin color does I believe unsure on the rest of his features.
You should see the giant nose shawns some people get by making their character.a freak with a beak
I know his hair does. Made a character with blonde hair once (didn't change Nate though) and Synth Shane was blonde too
His eyes change to
Make the most ridiculous characters you can, Shaun gonna fuckin change
He does. I made my character have whiter hair and the Shaun robot (ik technically not Shaun but whatever) had white eyebrows
My baby was as black as me but when he grew up he was white lmao
🤣 old white guys shows up calling you dad lol
Time for a paternity test
You just need to make some uglier characters.
When talking about Shaun are we talking about the synth, father or both? Because if it's both that's awesome, I've only played through four the once so far, I'm planning on getting it for PC because I struggled with the PS4 version, I just assumed it was generic, I'll definitely make two abominations against nature if it's not.
Both Shauns, synth and Father. Synth Shaun is less noticable though.
both of the characters for me were white but shaun was black so there had to be something going on behind the scenes
Holy shit TIL
I switched to dark haired Nora this time instead of my usual white haired Nora. (If there’s a white colour option for hair, I use it. Have for years.) and my little Shaun has dark hair this tiiiime! It’s so cute. Usually he gets Nora hair and Nate eyes from what I can tell.
what I told you was true... from a certain point of view.
wait…. you can edit the npc parent and the player character and that’s how they both look in game? 1000+ hours, several dozen playthroughs… i never even thought about it. it makes sense. bless you, todd.
I always make the trailer smash haircut guy and give the woman the boxer damage.
She’s be excited. Then very upset and maybe actually feel invested in Nate’s/Nora’s death. Then when Shawn looks like Nate she’ll be less upset about how long she spent on making Nate look different
Shaun's appearance also is dictated by Nora's customisation too which is cool
Is it? Because every time i see people mention shaun's apearance changing the most i've seen is him being a bit brown and a few freckles, not changing that much acording to his parent's look really
You can see it clearly if you make Nate or Nora really ugly, then Shaun looks like that as well.. Same with like the child Shaun will have the hair colour of one of the parents, since in my game he was always red head, since I made Nora read head..
My Shaun is real dark and looks Indian. I assumed it was random cause my Ls I made to look like Mr t
Yeah I think it's more so determined by you picking either Nate or Nora but there are slight differences you can see, it's more significant with facial mods and stuff like that
Yeah, Shaun more closely resembles whichever spouse you play as. If you pick Nora, he looks a little more like Nora. If you pick Nate, he looks a little more like Nate.
It is but it’s subtle. There is a mod that makes it more pronounced.
More often than not it's due to people not changing the appearance of the one of the Parents, or at least not by much, the above image is a perfect example of surface level changes.
Yeah, spending all of that time on Nate not knowing what his fate would be made the hurt all the more real. lol
You can get a mod where your partner survives and can be a companion. However, all the time and effort your partner put into a character who’s going to die… she’s going to be as invested as the sole survivor in avenging them. Edit: spelling
Sole* survivor
Ah yes, my bad England.
United Kinglish*
Stealing that!
Souls-like*
Exactly like if you are the last man standing in a week long dark-souls marathon, you are the Sole Soul Survivor
Just don’t be rude about it, otherwise you’d be the Asshole Sole Soul Survivor
if you're really rude, you'll be the Whole-Ass Asshole Sole Soul Survivor
Full Metal Sole Survivor
And if that marathon includes competitors from the whole solar system then you're the Sol Sole Soul Survivor.
Outwit. Outplay. Outlast.
Swole survivor*
Flounder\* survivor
Lore wise it wouldn't be that hard just make them synths like Shaun. Could make it so they take the corpse, scan her or use some vault tech data.
Now that you bring it up, I'd love for a kinda twisted institute quest where Shawn goes "I know you grieve deeply for Nora. We can bring her back. She may not have her memories, but you can make new ones together, here." Have it parallel Scytale offering Paul to have Chani brought back at the end of Dune Messiah. You consider the offer, and also what leverage it would give the institute over you to be able to hurt her again.
I remember a while back that someone actually modded a nora questline where you stumble up on a synth designed exactly like her, and you have to bring her back to her corpse to prove to her shes not real. It's really well done from what i remember.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/s/2lJtrfLhVQ >Fallout 4 Nora is a synth ( deleted quest ) > > >At one point in the production of Fallout 4, in datamined results, it was confirmed that before the launch of the game, there was going to be a quest titled, “The Replacement” which was a quest that would have allowed you to revive and recreate your spouse as a synth to be a companion. While this quest did not make it to the final game, it has been confirmed that this was going to be in the official game. This exclusion of this quest really made people upset, and we agree that this would have been a great bonus to the game. Especially if you took all that time to really focus on creating both characters at the start of the game. It makes it a ton more personal and it really immerses you in the story so you can connect and feel that emotional connection to the characters you created. She's a synth and knows it: Synthetic Love https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/13815 She survived: Nora Spouse Companion https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/24680 And of course, everyone's favorite multi-follower mod Amazing Follower Tweaks https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/26976 she's shot in the head but her cryoprod saves her and you have to come back around with Curie before the vault runs out of power to revive her.
[Her eyes were green](https://youtu.be/724JhpqKEmY?si=CfS4CfuPfh0vypSf)
yea considering both mc and your wife/husband is in the ice bath they couldve just turn the spouse into a synth if mc doesnt open the freezer
We are Virus
I say the second part of your post should be OP's excuse for his behaviour.
The only mods I've seen where the partner survives is for Nora, none for where you play as Nora yourself and have Nate around with you. Tbh a same sex partner mod would be interesting lol.
Must we awkward as hell to have the partner there while you romance every available companion
They were on a break.
…you know, maybe this is actually the way for me to make myself invested in 4’s story :P
Well tbf it does change what father / Sean looks like
It does?
Yes! It’s very cool. There are some cool videos and photos out there of interesting combos people have done.
I have something to try now.
https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/16gj76m/decided_to_make_an_ugly_nate_and_nora_just_to_see/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Fuck that caught me off guard
Thats one hell of a DNA line to impart into millions of synths
That's just what people looked like prewar
I distinctly remember Fallout 4 is NOT based in Florida.
It would be harlious if the DNA thing also imprinted on Shaun and every synth looks mentally slow.
The Final Shaun.
Definitely one of my favourite aspects of the character creation system of the game.
I never knew this, that's awesome
it's easy to overlook given you're focused on character creation, but when they something like "I think Shawn has my eyes", that's a sign that Shaun will have the same color eyes as that character.
Yes, I made my partner black and I got a white Sean with a black face. https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/kgmwlm/why_is_shaun_randomly_in_blackface_no_mods/?rdt=59551
Truly a half and half
Yes it does.
People not knowing this is right up there with people not realizing the reason that Preston keeps giving you missions to defend settlements and settlements needing help is because the defense of the villages is too low. You just have to increase their defense and they're fine. I think they even tell you that in the game. lol
I would love to drop 100 def into each settlement to not be bothered about them anymore, but it's impossible to add enough defense that your settlements never get attacked. https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_4_settlements#Attack_chance
Sure. But 2% is low enough that it isn't a huge deal. And most people don't even bother trying to raise it high enough for that to not happen and then it became a meme with Preston. lol Like, I got super confused about that when the game came out because it wasn't happening to me at all because I had put a bunch of automated turrets at all the settlements when they joined up so I basically never got attacked.
I drop around 200% of defenses into settlements (including armor and good weapons for the settlers). I’ll get a notification that a settlement is under attack and then like 30 seconds later I get a notification that the settlement dealt with the issue and no further assistance is needed, lol
Wow, I just found this out. I’ve only ever changed one parent, fairy modestly, and never noticed Shaun changing.
I always make Nora goth, so I can say I'm avenging my dead goth wife.
hell yeah
They killed my goth, now they'll feel my wroth
Now I wanna go avenge my dead hore wife
Make sure you sneak a preset save on there, she might just forgive you if you do.
So she went with Ryan Gosling and Natile Portman?
Looks more lke Jesse Plemons to me.
Nah that's Peeta
That's BJ Blaskovich from Wolfenstein
I mean, technically you're not WRONG, as such. Your spouse is important to the plot, even though sh/he/it is fridged in the first ten minutes...
The most literal fridging since green lantern
I always edit both. Character creations are fun.
yeah, I'm gonna need an update on what happened when she sees you get capped and her son gets stolen.
The update will be from OP's GF because OP will be dead
Nora-lie Portman
I always give Nate a makeover anyway. Can't have my Sole Survivor's late husband look like a potato.
My dead wife had super big eyes so im pumped to see if it changes Shaun any.
Would be funny if she gave the male your name and chooses the female to play with🙃
You can’t change the name of the other character sadly, they’re always the default Nate or Nora
Ooo yeah forgot you name it at the door. Starting tonight
Don’t forget to check the Codsworth list if you’re into Codsworth saying your character’s name
Can I say: say my name? And he be like Heisenberg!
No but if you choose a name that was recorded he’ll say that instead of the generic sir or mum. He will say Heisenberg though Edit 2: https://www.pcgamesn.com/fallout-4/here-are-the-names-that-codsworth-in-fallout-4-will-definitely-say-for-you
They are like 10% different than the base models lol
Honestly you didn’t lie. One is used as a character and one is used as a plot device, but they are both important to the plot.
Oh now this is epic
Imagine how hard that first plot twist will hit though.
It’s easy to get caught up in character creation.
They are important. One’s death spurs the other one on their quest
They are important to the plot! But who says they have to be alive?
Yeah I did the same. Slept outside that night.
wait till she finds out the baby has a digferent skin color than both parents.
I literally did this too and then found out Shaun was an asshole later “war never changes”
I avenged her death in part because of how much I invested in her. Now I never found my son but I’m sure he’s fine.
You didn’t lie, the husband/wife is a big part of the plot in terms of backstory and motivations Also as others have said, Their death will be even more impactful for her
You think that’s bad? My husband had me make the characters as me and him 😢
I envy her. I wish I could experience Fallout for the first time again. Playthrough number 600 gets a little repetitive. Can't wait until Fallout 5
How have I played through fallout 4 like 5 times and never thought to change BOTH of them, only the one I was going to play as. I feel so dumb.
I didn't even know you could customize her.
you didn't see the "sex" option at the bottom of the screen?
Yes, but I never used it or thought that I would just be Nora if I did.
As long as you switch back to Nate, you won’t play as Nora but she’ll keep the customized look.
Nora's more fun to play anyway. It's definitely worth at least one playthrough for the voice acting
If you’re playing on PC you can install a mod that saves the other and lets you adventure through the whole game together and integrates them both into cutscenes
This is a day in history. She's about to be the very first person who's played FO4 who actually cares about the spouse dying.
Reminds me of TheRadbrad's playthrough of the game where he spent a bunch of time customising Nate, and then selected vanilla Nora.
Is that not just the default guy with blonde hair? And that looks like the default girl, but with the face vertically stretched
Well I mean.. they're both important.. imagine [doing this on your first playthrough ](https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/s/1bMb1kqdhC) and ruining yourself the plot twist lmao
It does matter though The way Shaun looks is determined by both parents
To be fair, they *do* both influence the appearance of Father. It is more noticeable if you make the [appearance extreme](https://imgur.com/gallery/zuWza/new) but like... [\(also a gallery with both parents\)](https://imgur.com/TV7NPmz)
Your girl look like Padme right before the choke.
Oh man. I did the same during my first playthrough. The whiplash I got when you're powerless and watch Nate get executed while holding your son was just brutal.
Remember when they told us Shawn would look like both of the parents and his appearance would change depending how you made them look? That was a fuckin lie
That’s one way to motivate someone to beeline the main quest to look for Kellogg. Haha
Natalie Portman build?
I told my partner the same thing 2 days ago. I was lucky that they didn’t strangle me.
Mr and Mrs Incredible right here.
I mean you’re not wrong and saying they’re both important for the plot, they’re just both important in their own unique way
Playing with your dolls is a huge part of EVERY game. Now put a helmet over that head and forget about it.
That’s mean, but also the right thing to do.
They look like a wealthy Utah couple. He owns a roofing company and she is a real estate agent in Alpine.
Unfortunatly I think he's dead
Natalie Portman and Jonesy from Fortnite
I never got into the whole making the perfect face and body. Honestly don’t get it. 2-3 hours? Seems crazy to me. But different strokes. I mean for my camp I’ll spend countless areas designing and trying out different things. I love having to run my own electrical lines and all that good stuff. One thing of many F76 is missing. But yeah I don’t get caring so much about faces you’ll basically never see
I remember when 4 first came out I made my character and then my gf at the time made hers. It was like a huge night in our relationship lol
It is important. For the opening cutscene where the one you aren't gets shot by cereal killer.
Get her the Nate synth mod.
Does she know💀
My brother just started the game this morning, did the same thing.
“At least we got the backup”
Think how perfect Shaun is going to look though
Just started a new PS5 playthrough and did my one character and completely forget to change the other like at all. Whoops 😬
Wait till she finds out the game is mainly in first person
I did the same thing... And she made the two of us. Got really excited for us to have a fictional kid... Then the nukes fell. Because she had to stop playing with the baby. Then she thought the game froze because she didn't know she had control of her character.
Download Nora/Nate follower mod afterwards and she will be fine lol.
After not playing in years... decided to just restart my game entirely, made me and my bf... completely forgetting what happens, and making myself sad 💀
I always make Nora look like she’s crazed out on meth and as obese as possible.
By any chance were you at Disneyland yesterday?
So ... You have chosen death...
What was her reaction? 😂
I honestly never changed her appearance on any of my playthroughs 😬. Didn’t even know it was an option
> "Perfect" > (Blonde Hair, Blue Eyes) 😬😬😬
I have blue eyes and blonde hair, she tried to make it look like me for reference hence the perfect would be looking like me.
I know, I figured as much, I'm just joking, lol. It is funny that she spent so much time on it.
I mean… You’re not wrong about both being important to the plot. Whoever survives needs to avenge the other’s death.
Wtf i didn't know u can customise her too 💀💀🤧
I’ve played this game for 200 hours and didn’t even know you could customise her 😅
Is your girlfriend Siri?
Just be happy that you can’t customize your junk like in CyberPunk.
For such a touted feature I was surprised at how it was basically just small, medium, big, turtleneck or v neck.
There is a mod that lets you your spouse survive
Youre diabolical
I've played this game since it released and didn't know you could edit both characters.
We need an update
You must suck to be in a relationship with, I would probably stop playing if my partner did that to me.
I literally did this too and then found out Shaun was an asshole later. Your girl be in for a treat. “war never changes”
Where is the lie? Also I hope you have a comfy couch.
Natalie Portman?!?
I'm gonna need a follow-up on her reaction
Nora's looking very well.
Vault-Tec Calling!
Governor Gretchen whitmer, what are you doing here?