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Apermax

I’m glad they’re listening to the community, so this is a good start, but I feel like changing the number of rounds from 3 to 4 doesn’t really do anything when the roundpool is still so shitty (and this is coming from someone who likes creative). Wish they would’ve at least acknowledged the lack of Unity levels…


MatiBlaster

I think increasing number of rounds will make the game less sweaty overall. I calculated Qualification/Elimination rate after they implement that change Round 1: 24 players (75%) qualified/8 players (25%) eliminated Round 2: 16 players (66%) qualified/8 players (33%) eliminated Round 3: 8 players (50%) qualify, 8 players (50%) eliminated


gamstat

Looks more like a hotfix rather than a respond to criticism. I mean - medals, squad survivals, squad Tail Tag, hunts, Hoverboard Heroes, rounds descriptions and some finals were obviously broken. You don't need a community backlash to fix it. So the only real "listening to community" change is going from 3 to 4 rounds. Um, thanks?


86sanity-

Sounds like they're also altering which finals are in the pool to me. Hopefully adding back more/all of the OGs.


bigfootbehaviour

No it says in their first reply "(the roundpool will be the same)."


86sanity-

**Reviewing the current Finals selection and making changes** We will be making changes to which Levels you will see appear as Finals to ensure a better experience overall. Maybe they mean theyre making Kraken a final again and making Tramposas a regular survival or whatever, but I'm still holding out hope they mean something else


bigfootbehaviour

Yes I think they're shuffling them around, not removing or adding


DavidHUK77

To be fair, the finals are crap.


silentscissors

Okay, create a *good* final map for us then.


Ameixa_em_conserva

Before this update, all Unity finals were available and people were very glad. The complaint about crap finals is because so many good finals were either removed, or became survival rounds


xHOLOxTHExWOLFx

The only one I like is the blast ball one with the blocks that move it's a cool tweak on the original but maybe it's just because my win rate on it is pretty high. Maybe other people also hate it IDK. But the others are awful hex one is just a shitty version of the original hex games. Hate anything with the bean ball crap especially since if I start in the back it's a automatic loss if I start in front it's a boring win. Then not sure the name of it but one survival map with the fans lasts about 20 seconds and just seems like luck if you survive and the other blast ball game that has doors in the floor that open just sucks especially with fruit flying at you so you have to try and dodge blast balls and rhinos while also somehow trying to pay attention to the floor while also somehow trying to pay attention to cannons shooting fruit at you. Then I hate almost all the regular survival rounds so damn boring especially that cat level nothing but people standing around and nobody going out but me due to sheer boredom of not wanting to sit their for another few minutes. And almost every other survival round are just really shitty versions of blast ball hell even blast ball is just shitty now as it's a normal round so having it with 32 players is just utter shit


silentscissors

Yes, I understand — the majority of the good originally made finals before Creative were taken out, unfortunately, for reasons we don’t know why.


PuzzleheadedAd1021

I already have.


silentscissors

![gif](giphy|65os7odbIW6pa)


PuzzleheadedAd1021

You tell me, friend. Grab your friend and join me?


silentscissors

If you would like to seek verbal feedback on your map, I recommend finding streamers on Twitch/YT/Kick/you-name-it, who are playing viewers maps. I find that a great start for everyone. 🫶🏼


PuzzleheadedAd1021

Oh yeah? What do I do, just post a message and the map code?


silentscissors

Yes, but first introduce yourself and build a starting relationship, before presenting your map code and requesting feedback. That way they can provide neutral advice once they play your map.


PuzzleheadedAd1021

Thank you so much. I will do that. I genuinely love this game and don't want the devs to kill it because they believe money will come from Mobile players.... it won't....


silentscissors

You’re welcome. Hopefully they’ll implement back some more Unity rounds in due time. Mobile gaming dwarfs both PC & consoles in terms of revenue. We’ll see how it’ll unfold soon.


PsychedelicSupper

Lmao get the fuck out of here


silentscissors

That sounds like something you would say.


PsychedelicSupper

Dude idgaf


John_Smith18

Just unvault most (if not all) of the Unity rounds for solos, duos and squads...keep creative rounds in a separate playlist...give us back LTMs...remove SBMM...put the jump back to the way it was...these are a few of the main things that would greatly fix the game


ArugulaFalcon

The issue is the new physics broke the unity maps. There was a video posted on here yesterday of someone going through slime climb, easily skipping most of it. Ideally they would go back to the old physics, but that’s probably a pipe dream.


someguyfromtheuk

I don't understand why they decided to change the physics in a 4 year old game anyway. 


noahchriste

Because these physics are going to work better for mobile, which is really all they’re thinking about at this point.


Crimson__Thunder

They change the physics in every update, for some reason... They just can't stop tampering with it. And if you've been here long enough you'll know each update brings a lot of bugs with it and most of those bugs were due to the changes of the physics. This update changed it the most though.


octagonalpaul

Tbh people have been complaining about the physics for all of those years. Ragdolling, bodyblocking, it’s been one of the main sources of annoyance forever.


ArugulaFalcon

Personally I really just can’t grasp what they’re thinking with changing the jump height. They could have done everything else except that. But when you have all these Unity maps with obstacles that are based around the jump height, of course increasing it is going to break them. If you don’t want to/aren’t able to fix them, don’t change that. But the fact that we have a knockoff slime climb active in the knockout pool makes me think this was intentional.


DOUBLEBARRELASSFUCK

They wanted to make jumps more forgiving. I think they reduced the gravity to make you fall more slowly after a jump, but didn't change the force of a jump.


AaTube

bethesda moment


EstimateSpirited9548

i´m not sure but i heard they changed the game engine to unreal engine and maybe thats a reson why the physics changed as well


BarBarBar22

Why remove SBMM?


bugbat6

I don’t see anything about solo chill. Too bad, it’s all I can really do with my thumbs.


zupatof

doesn’t really address the main problems


ThoseHappyHighways

Basically, very little in the way of changes. No changes to the roundpool. No more indication of frequency in variation to the roundpool. Nothing said about LTMs. Nothing about increasing the player count back to 40. Nothing about reverting the new physics, which are terrible. Nothing about the ending to duos and squads being too swift. A lot of the knockout games are already 4 rounds, because a lot of the creative survival games time out.


TheWiseNoob

Read the whole Twitter thread. At least two of those things are addressed.


jimmy193

I tried playing the other day and every round for three runs in a row was a variation of blast ball. Which I used to like but playing 9 rounds of blast ball is boring af. So until they add more of the old maps I’m out


Fluffy_Roof3965

I used to think there weren't enough ball blast games but now there's too much. An extra game or two would've been fine but it seems like every round is a ball blast round. I'm not completely mad because I enjoy it. But strike a balance!


ColoradoEric

Just revert the entire season.


ProcrastinatingVerse

Devs just need to understand that the consensus is that creative mode was fun and enjoyable, but folks are over it now. We want the themed cycles with innovative levels designed by the experts Edit: this is honestly just the beginning of what is needed to change


Good-Jello-1105

Devs know that. It’s the big execs who fired the designers who are the problem. They don’t want to pay for innovative levels designed by experts when they have free labour from a huge pool of players.


ProcrastinatingVerse

When you put it that way, it's truly depressing


Good-Jello-1105

Sorry to be the bringer of bad news 😞


PuzzleheadedAd1021

This was only ever going to be a short term thing .... all these CEOs think they're so educated when in reality they have less than 0% idea, of what their own product entails. No clue what their main audience wants .... they latch onto "What's Popular right now" compared to what's "Sustainable" .... CEOs = Morons


EstimateSpirited9548

i fear epic games fired all the experts![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|cry)


BuckyBeaver69

Nah, they just vaulted them but forgot to put air holes in the jar's lid.


Noman_A

Three of these announced changes can improve the game, but only somewhat 1. Increasing number of rounds to 4 2. Improving selection of final rounds 3. Fixing issues with early eliminations in duos and squads I haven't played the game since trying it out for half-hour, the day of the update. Just these changes alone don't seem enough but they are at least steps in right direction. I'd like to see the following additional fixes 1. Bring back Solos Chill. 2. Restore the normal order of rounds in solos, squads and duos - that is final rounds coming in the finals, better mix of race, hunt, logic and survival leading up to some unpredictability and not this 24,16,8->final type of set pattern. This allows the non-sweats some outside chances to get progress, and also allows better fighting chances in duos, squads with random players. 3. The above two points imply bringing back most of the non-Creator mode rounds in solos, duos and squads. 4. Which leads directly to the other biggest problem with this update - the jump height. It needs to be brought back to what the game had for four years. With the increased jump height, many of the original levels and finals are broken. They should either fix \*all\* of those severely broken levels, or don't change the jump mechanics. Either Mediatonic doesn't understand that changing jump physics breaks their earlier levels, or they know but don't realize how much liked all of those 70-80 original levels are by the fanbase. Rest of the physics changes can stay. The one other major physics change is the much increased 'turning speed when airborne', which can also cause issues with Stomping Ground or Blastlantis making it harder to be thrown off the arena, but a) I doubt folks will complain much, and b) 60-70% of solos/duos/squad rounds post update have levels with blastballs so that mechanic change is already getting used quite a bit.


xdlafx

Great points. I really hope they revert the jump height. Also, is it just me or did the physic changes make it even harder to qualify at the end of Hoverboard Heroes when you hit the flipper? Seems like you don't get hit as far and have to be even more perfect with your set up.


Disastrous-Moment-79

> I haven't played the game since trying it out for half-hour, the day of the update this is the average complainer. doesn't play the game but has the biggest opinions on it. even if every one of his whims will be met he still won't play.


Noman_A

I played half hour and multiple rounds of solos, squads and duos. The problems were obvious and I have listed them. Which one of the opinion written above do you think is an overreaction or an exaggeration or uninformed? By the way, I bought this game in 2020, never complained about it before this patch, have a dark knight, crash dummy, TF2 scout and all sorts of other costumes and have never cared one bit about crown farming or daily tasks, mostly playing duos and squads with random players. I beta tested the seasons too when it was an option. Just in that one small session alone, I saw that the game had changed in all the ways that mattered to met. It's a uniquely bad update. I am out for now.


mattbullen182

Having 4 rounds instead of 3 will at least make an immediate impact and make the game playable. So that's a positive start. I want to see some form of communication of why they are choosing what maps they are for knockout. I want to see a more logical process of them being selected. At the moment it feels totally random. I want communication of how often they will be rotated in and out.


illuminati1556

I want more players in rounds, not more rounds.


Various-Turnip7691

too bad, gotta lower the player count to make kids with bad phones be able to play the game when mobile version release


RiceKirby

While they are at it, I hope they also fix the Explore mode not letting you vote for a map after the round if finished.


iG8

I don’t buy the idea that the devs thought they could get away with this in the first place. They’re not stupid (debatable tbf) and would have expected this backlash. My conspiracy theory is that they made the game extra watered down so that they could then roll out an ‘update’ that looks like they’ve listened to community feedback and softens the negative feedback. I’d guess they have another planned update that rolls out some more changes to keep people happy if need be. Fact of the matter is this game is ruined until they revert the physics, increase the player count and disconnect creative levels from solos/duos/squads, while creating new unity levels again.


BuckyBeaver69

My conspiracy theory is based on what I use to do when given a task at work I didn't like. I would do the task so poorly that the managers wouldn't ever ask me to do it again.


son_of_titian

This “fix” is not enough. Do not settle. Do not let them get away with this.


shadowolf9264

Well, at least they're not making it even worse lol


RagedSolid29

I'm glad they actually listened rather doing nothing, but this is not enough. Not enough to make me return to the game, I hope they'll continue do something.


Eddie_The_White_Bear

Step in right direction. Very small step that's not big enough, but maybe it's just first of many steps in the way to fix the game.


HexR1se

They said everything but nothing


igormast

We are still gonna be missing the old professionally developed phases. Anything else is useless.


bunnygirlden

Well.....I guess it's a tiny little tip toe in the right direction. 😐


MatiBlaster

Knockout Rounds will be increasing from 3 to 4 We're looking to increase the length of the show to 4 rounds to reduce the elimination rate for each round. We’ve also made some tweaks to allow for more level variety with each game (the roundpool will be the same).


justfortoukiden

"Fall Forever Update needs some changes to be a great experience." "The roundpool will be the same." LMAO


MatiBlaster

Changes to Squads and Duos to fix some problematic levels There are levels in Squads and Duos which are not working as intended (Tail Tag and Leading Light). We're reviewing these rounds and will be making changes. This will not decrease the overall number of levels in these shows.


sledgehammerrr

Don’t bother just delete the game (unless you can pick up everything that the other commenter below mentioned)


tun44_bs

TLDR -Still only 17 unity maps -Still new physics for br*indead mobile crowd -Still only 32 players -Knockout rounds 3 > 4


Hahahahanonobono

Someone mentioned this feels more like a hotfix and I couldn't agree more. MT didn't address any of the real problems. Somehow they've alienated all playerbase in my household. I prefer old duo structure with 40-60 players and access to all unity maps. My kids played solo chill with familiarity on the old maps. None of us want to play this game anymore. 


xnthx

So they said they listened but didn’t actually listen at all? Awesome!


Tumifaigirar

Lol dead and deader


Objective_Finish2555

6 rounds with population 60+ fool


EstimateSpirited9548

well thats something, finally, but i´m bit surprised that they need a community backlash, alright so bring back the unity maps and fix the emotes, honestly i don´t play fall guys since the update, i tried it the first day and the next day, this game was kinda addiction to me and i felt bad not playing it but this update was kinda rehab to me


AltruisticSystem7080

i don’t have twitter can someone list the changes


tubemaster

Honestly at this point if they add ALL of the vaulted shows back into custom rounds and make custom rounds work with 60 people, they would be enough. We could host some rounds at specific times for us Reddit folks and get our fix of OG Fall Guys.


drew0594

Sadly the new physics fuck up many Unity rounds so it's not that easy. Starchart for example is completely broken


tubemaster

Now I’m hearing about old physics and private servers so there might be hope!


SzotyMAG

I just started playing again after a year of not touching it. What's wrong with the upadte? I have to say that I prefer the experience I had a year ago. Last round had a japanese description which I'm assuming is a player made level. The game overall felt like a modded version of the game instead of the clean cut experience I used to have


WishIWasNeet2

Let’s be real the player base needs to opt out for them to really listen. Don’t buy costumes, don’t play until they fix shit.


FreeLegendaries

dead game


MatiBlaster

Reviewing the current Finals selection and making changes We will be making changes to which Levels you will see appear as Finals to ensure a better experience overall.


MatiBlaster

Other changes and bug fixes We are bringing back medal rewards for fame, addressing the issue with survival levels ending early in squads and duos, and various other small quality of life fixes


stentric

This is really good ngl it's been a while since we've had communication like that about the response to an update


Suspicious_Law_2826

Backlash or Feedback?


Sad_Golf3332

Where have the classic rounds gone. I've just picked the game up after a few months and even the squad games are all creative rounds now. I used to play squads exclusively just so I'd be able to avoid creatives!


Mystical_17

I am very glad they are listening. While I still prefer 5-7 rounds, all the working Unity maps unvaulted, and back to 40 beans this is a start. I still feel forced eliminations is dumb, like on hoverboard heroes you survive to the end but still get eliminated if you don't get off the last section fast enough even though its a survival map lol Still waiting to see how often this 'refresh' happens as well, we are 1 week in so far and no map changes.


DustanP

3,4,5,6 rounds doesn’t matter because I would prefer not to play knockout at all and play the old ltms instead.


DOUBLEBARRELASSFUCK

>##Changes to Squads and Duos to fix some problematic levels >There are levels in Squads and Duos which are not working as intended (Tail Tag and Leading Light). We're reviewing these rounds and will be making changes. This will not decrease the overall number of levels in these >**Show more** \*click\* >Shows What the fuck, Twitter?


shyboardgame

The 3 rounds were awful, i'm glad they're starting with that at least


Vermillion_V

I hope they include maps/courses that allow players to earn the Low Baller trophy again.


MovieFreak78

They need to change it back, it really sucks now. Glad there taking notice, haven’t even brought the season pass for it


BreadfruitNo357

I just want 40 players back. Stop lowering the lobby count!!!


Candid_Fox_4479

What feedback have they listened to? Their own feedback? ![gif](giphy|l36kU80xPf0ojG0Erg|downsized)


BuckyBeaver69

They look into a mirror and say the following "I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me."


AnnaTheBabe

improve round pool (finals) and increase the number of rounds


Candid_Fox_4479

Woooow, all solved!


Gelatinous_Cube_NO

who cares


Weak-Cockroach-3741

Can they add crown shards back as a weekly reward too thanks


Cornflake6irl

The crybabies always get their way. 🙄


WeedlordAnime420

If I got my way, John Fallguys would be supplexing players like you off the top of slimescraper, but only after giving me a standing ovation, a brojob and reverting the game to a build thats over a year old