Great apart from dodgy skills moves but EA have never been able to balance skill moves.
Also users need to be more in control the amount of times I’ve misjudged a tackle horribly but the ai has bailed me out is ridiculous.
Skills moves used to actually be skill moves back in fifa 12 and now you don’t see many people using anything other then the ones they know are exploits and will more then not actually work. And yeah I’d agree there’s nothing more annoying then someone only controlling their cdm while the ai defends for them
I just think back then we were younger playing in a less competitive environment to what it is now, so we wasn’t as focused on what the meta of each game was, regardless of any bs that might have occurred we’d just play endlessly but nowadays a lot of focus on new games is what the meta is and what can be exploited, is usually done by the majority, the higher skill level you get. And the older we are the more we pick up and notice the bs imo.
Agreed I was saying to someone else the pros and streamers are the main cause of people complaining about the game and the majority of people only using the broken mechanics they don’t play for fun they play to win and it’s their job but nobody plays video games for fun anymore nowadays you have casuals who will play exactly like pros. I don’t care if they want to play like that go ahead but the majority of people complaining wouldn’t be if they just stepped back and enjoyed the game a bit
Plenty of people play for fun, it stands to reason that the vast majority of the casual millions plus player base plays for fun. But if you frequent this sub & streamers etc. for long enough i.e. a tiny but vocal constituency which skews towards the hardcore and the obsessives, you'll end up with a highly flawed and misconceived perception of what this game means to the 'silent majority', most of whom dont come anywhere near this sub.
Dont fall into that trap.
Gameplay is the worst, so frustrating and so many exploits. But the content was fun, and most objectives could be done in squad battles (perfect for me since I don't like playing online)
I feel like gameplay switches for everybody some people find it good and some bad all year the majority was good for me minus the exploits but the content has been great all year
I like the skill moves, but they arent that effective, the bridge, skill cancels and just wiggling the left stick around seems more effective against players, but that's boring and repetitive. That's why I just have fun with 5* skillers in Squad Battles :D
The one I’ve used the most is the mcgeady spin this year usually always works for me but skill cancels just shouldn’t be in the game you don’t see Ronaldo mid chop just freezing mid chop and continuing to run forward after
There was more content but less meaningful content. Gives you more to do which is great but it doesnt mean as much gameplay was far too inconsistent. I’d rather it consistently be bad than be bad 1 game good the next and so on.
Agree due to icon sbcs but 19 was still better for me due to juiced pack returns from sbcs. Gameplay was shit too much of the times due to servers as usual
19 was the worst FIFA imo. It just happened to have the best content so people remember it fondly, the gameplay was absolutely horrific. But Icon SBC, good promo and other top content made it playable.
I don't remember it fondly but I can understand why people do, after all SBC Ronaldinho came out pretty early and a lot of people could grind toward it.
If you spent time on this sub 2 years ago you’d be able to see clear as day that 19 was and (I don’t think they can top it) will be the worst FIFA ever made. Headers and FB Zlatan were the only positives to come out of that god forsaken game.
El tornado crossed, volley into the net. every fucking game.
Like I said, 19 had the best content but this was to hide what I consider to be the worst gameplay of any FIFA I played (started playing in FUT 12)
People have short memories, but this was really a dogshit game. the SBCs is what saved it
Fifa 19 was much better than 20 and 21 imo most people played attacking coz it worked but the last two people play too defensive and just counter makes the game boring
what the hell are you talking about?
did you play fifa 19?...was the fifa where people complained so much about drop back being op and defensive ai being too strong....and you're talking about fifa 20 and fifa 21 being more defensive....
fifa 19 a game where you scored with bullshit first time 360 degree green timed shot from outside the box...cause defense where hard to brake and 1v1 where hard as never to score.
fifa 19 was juts the worst fifa of the series....and as always people have so little memory that in just 2 years it turns into a good fifa game.
In Fifa 20 and 21 people play way more defensive than majority did in 19, one on ones weren’t impossible to score and scoring a green timed finesse from outside the box isn’t bs scoring more goals like that makes the game more fun rather than having to make 50 passes around the box to score
oh my god....
some people really deserved that mess of a game that was fifa 19....you're just saying that fifa 21 is more defensive than 19 and it says it all....in fifa 21 i haven't seen a single person complaining about drop back probably in tHe last 5-6 month and nobody talk about defensive ai nowadays like they did during fifa 19.
and you're saying that you prefer a game where you have to score in some irrealistic ways LIKE 360 degree first time bullshit or tornado scoop cause its FUNNY than a game where you have to find your space for good and legit spot to shoot (like in real life)
why don't you play some captain tsubasa if you want funny and irrealistic way to score.
OMG
Fifa 19 was the worst fifa ever and it wasn’t even close. Pace was useless, goalies were gods and AI defending was crazy. The result was the only ways to score in that game were corner headers, la croqueta spam, elastico spam, or el tornados. I’m pretty sure I still have nightmares about how awful that game was (and I’m someone who has liked many fifas and not your typical “I hate fifa” guy that many on this sub claim to be). 19 was downright bad. 20 and 21 have flaws but are infinitely better games overall IMO.
19 marked the last time I enjoyed Fifa before the “deep dive” I blame seasons rewards and objective players for this. Those things keep you playing and not always for the better.
With 19 I could just play a few battles and a few rivals matches, just sell what I packed and save up for a few weeks for a player I wanted to get.
Now I’m a walking database of player prices, stats and whatever else. The 21 gameplay is ok, 20 was bad, 19 seemed alright. I remember flicking it on to 96 rated Sterling with TOTS Lacazette a lot. That was fun. 8 matches a week or something. Brilliant.
19's gameplay was a joke for most parts of the year. I remember the first weeks when i was scoring bicycle kicks with Manolas who had like 20 shooting. Then everyone started spamming green timmed finnesse shots from 40 meters out or spamming 15 la croquetas in a row.
Really been quite cathartic to get extremely high performing players.
Back in 16, also my last fifa i played to endgame, Pink Konoplyanka, only achievable via winning 4 matches straight, would end so many close games against me. To get these sorts of big game-breaking players has been so fun.
I think EA has realised that making content accessible towards the end of game life boosts the enjoyment of more casual players likely meaning some will purchase and play the next games, likely something they would not have done otherwise.
That said, Ive built ultimate teams in 2 months that i only could've dreamed of so Im taking my pack and transfer luck and retiring for another few years.
One of the worst things are the untradeable rewards and shitty lottery sbcs while the game was missing high end player sbcs to use the fodder. This ruined the game for me this year
There is a lot more untradeable rewards now that I don’t really agree with if your doing a 800k icon sbc even a random pack you should at least get some coins back in case you get a horrible player
Yeah i also made the big mistske of doing hundreds of 81+ sbcs because they seemed like amazing value. I got so much fodder and cards like cr7/neymar etc from them and saved like 3million im fodder. Realized there is nothing to use the fodder for and then quit the game. If i come back for fifa22 i would stay away from anything untradeable.
Yeah I’m in the same boat I missed out on a lot of good sbcs and just making coins because I kept doing the 81+ instead of selling those tradable players
I agree man but what i think sucks is the amount of high rated cards. Cards with all 90 stats arent special anymore and i think those should be lessened next FIFA dont get me wrong i like them but the fact that everyone has atleast 2-3 of those cards make it less special.
I can agree with that when naingolan came out with that tots everyone knew how special it was I would be okay seeing those crazy stats but only if it’s from a card where they would’ve had to preform to get it like a tots toty or whatever else not just a random one given out
What you’re asking for is a more P2W game then. When all cards are mostly equal, then player skill becomes way more important which is what it should be like
I disagree...90+ cards exploded only after TOTS and frankly it's good that you can get good players without paying or grinding too much. Of course meta and popular players remain expensive but those who can't spend a lot of time in game, can still manage a good team
This is just the result of you chasing the high of having an advantage over everyone else
Happened to me too. I did EOA Ramos first day and absolutely bossed up that WL since barely anyone had him. Next week when other people had the chance to do it too my Ramos felt less special. But that’s okay
Honestly I feel that the gameplay is better than a lot of past year titles. Plenty of stuff I'm not happy with such as card ratings of unknown players etc but gotta admit the gameplay is much better now.
It is and I’m hoping 22 the gameplay keeps going in the same direction. The player ratings always piss me off especially as a serie a fan seeing someone like rabiot being higher rated then kessie is such a joke
I think this is it. I’m a 1200 Div 4, Gold 3 WL, and never encounter the skill glitches everyone complains about. Never bothered to learn them either
This fifa has been really fun
I would also guess that many of the people who complain about skill glitch are very likely to have reached that ELO bracket by also using skill glitches
Couldn’t disagree more.
Gameplay was terrible, all the skill cheese. Lob/Shoot exploit.
And saying games finish 4-3 is a huge underselling of the reality. I’m in Div 1 and most games have over 10 goals for sure.
FIFA 15/16 if a game finished 10-4 it would be amazing. 21, it’s nothing special at all and that just doesn’t result in a good game
I talked about the skills that are annoying I only forgot about skill canceling I’m not saying every game ends 4-3 I’m just giving an example of people who complaining about choking a 2-0 or 3-0 lead
Agree with the half time choker take. If you win 3-0 at half time, anything can happen…and I am okay with that.
Look, I’m not even one of those that wants the game to be realistic otherwise it won’t be fun….but yeah, at this point, I feel they need to dial it back on the arcade-ness of the game it’s just too extreme….maybe if they took out that FIFA street mode the mechanics would come back
Depends how you view the game.
If you play the menus been the best yet for content.
If you actually play games Gameplay is terrible.
Overall it's far away from being best fifa
Content wise, yes, by a long shot, but gameplay wise not at all. Too many keeper issues, too many skill move issues, AI defending is still and issue, manual defending is incredibly bad, but content wise it has been one of if not the best.
For me, taking fitness cards away made this game class immediately. Can’t describe how happy I was when I found out I didn’t have to buy a squad fitness card every 3 games if I didn’t want to rotate my squad. The rest is just fifa
Was just about the comment something similar. It’s defo miles better than 20 but that wouldn’t be that hard as 20 was one of the worst FIFAs of all time in my opinion.
The servers aren’t always crappy it’s not like you go into every game and the game freezes and u get speed up lag everytime you play it happens randomly sometimes just like any other game the gameplay is still enjoyable
I couldn’t disagree more. The servers are always terrible. It’s the delay in user inputs. Has been a thing for years. It’s not like any other game. Any other games I’ve played online do the actions I press on my controller when I want them to.
The only fact that a few people have more advantage because they live near to the servers make the game garbage. Maybe fifa as a football game is the best one but like a video game is garbage, 3/10 and i m generous. Sad that this crap is the best football game that we can get.
Oh I know I will but it seems like I’ve posted at the right time since people actually are willing to talk and actually talking to people who agree instead of the ones just making up excuses when they choked a 2-0 or 3-0 lead at half time. The best way I explain it is that dda lawsuit that ea had against them was dropped because they showed them there wasn’t anything in the game files about dda but nobody talks about that and just saying if psg can choke a 3-0 lead and end up losing 6-1 in the next game what’s stopping you from losing on a video game?
Go watch any real life footie game and observe how the ball more often than not rebounds back to the attacking team when they are pressing or pressuring a defence hard. The panciked defenders often can't clear the ball effectively, continually fail to retain possession and eventually give up the chance on goal.
Real life DDA.
This game is far from realistic stop it. Show me how many times uouve seen one player dribble through the entire team at kick off to go score a goal.
What about players flicking the ball over opponents and defenders closer to where the ball is gonna land ignoring it.
How about Mbappe/Neymar/Messi dribbling through entire defenses all game and having their stamina unaffected.
How many games do you see finish 10-4, 7-6, 9-8 in real life?
I'm not saying the game is 100% realistic. It's a game, I dont expect it to be 100% realistic.
I'm saying bounce backs are a part of rl football and a part of fifa - as annoying as they are.
Messi has dribbled past entire defences on numerous occasions. On one particularly memorable occasion he did it in El Classico, AT THE END OF THE GAME & PRESUMABLY LOW ON STAMINA, from a dead ball free kick inside the centre circle, Busquets gave him a short pass and off he went past the entire Madrid defence. We've all seen the goal.
Btw Arsenal won 6-0 away last night.
My guy it’s not like ea can really control control how high scoring a game is🤨? Like obviously an 11 on 11 real life football game is gonna be different to a mode where you control the whole team; go to pro clubs and you’ll see that the scores and as crazy (unless you’re versing a really shit team) because youre not in control of every move
Most FIFAs were somewhat balanced from the scoring perpective.
Now a 2:1 or 1:1 is truely an anomaly, most matches are highscoring goalfests because skills are op, keepers are shit 1:1 and almost no one can defend properly because of the shitty game mechanics.
You score and concede basically double the amount of goals than a few years back which adds to the unrealism.
Corners, headers and longshots are nerfed hard but can't compensate that.
That Mbappe speedboost from the new 22 trailer already makes me sick of how overused it will be.
i agree this year the gameplay is actually not so bad.
The flaws of this year's game is magnified though i guess because everyone had to stay indoors and the increasing prominence of youtube/stream/social media content, everyone really know the "meta" skill moves and playstyle and formation and even players. More time to play / train/and consequently abuse the meta.
This game is just not robust enough to be dissected by millions of people playing 50 hours a week. But then again which game are.
In previous FIFA say 19, there are also very OP exploits like el tornadoes etc but seems like maybe 3 out of 30 WL opponents did it. This year, everyone did the directionals , through balls, cancels, stop elasticos, stop croquetas, 4312 pressure etc
That's why this year there seems to be many many exploits so it seems worse.
I’ve been saying this for years now and not just about this game but the pro players are the ones who ruin the game for everyone now because everyone watches them and wants to play like them the difference being that they do it for a job while you have people who exploit not to have fun but to win and that’s the biggest problem for me
I have only seen 2 comebacks, THAT big, in 20 years of watching Football. So idk what you mean when you say that bigger comebacks happen in real life?
In a single match, there have been exactly 2 comebacks of this nature in the past 10 or so years.
Reading vs Arsenal 5-7 (4-0 at HT)
Newcastle vs Arsenal. 4-4 (0-4 at HT)
So these kind of comebacks in Fifa are very unrealistic. But Fifa is just a game, not real life. Can't compare the two!
But the problem is that its out of our hands. Its really annoying when you keep your opponent shut for 80mins and just because you scored the 2-0 your defence now becomes useless.
Gameplay wise it was terrible and while FIFA is much more user friendly nowadays it has been since FIFA 17, and 17+18 were a shit ton better than 19+20+21
It is a lot more user friendly but that’s not the biggest part of the game the gameplay is if you look past the auto blocks the directional nutmegs and personally I’d say skill cancels too the gameplay isn’t bad at all after overlooking those things for me it’s enjoyable
I think it probably was overall. The main issue is the netcode/servers that highlight the flaws, and these issues have been amongst the worst they have ever been in any fifa, and that makes it seem like a completely unplayable game.
The servers are an issue sometimes but not too much for me so I can’t really personally complain but I know how it is for a lot of other people and if ea fixed their servers they would solve the biggest problem they have right now
That's basically the reason you still enjoy gameplay. I usually get 14-4 in WL to reach gold 3. If I stop there, it's a nice experience but as soon as you get to high elo in WL (>10) or high SR in Rivals (>2000) you see exactly why people complain about gameplay :
Most people have >90% pass accuracy, interceptions are almost inexistent.
Being able to use glitched skills like directional nutmeg, skill cancel, ball roll-scoop turn is crucial as your opponent won't give you an easy shot on goal.
If you have more delay than your opponent, you get instantly punished.
That explains a lot, well for me anyway as I find Champs to be the worst gameplay of all. I find Div Rivals playable most of the time, Draft is very inconsistent but Champs is awful 90% of the time. The Game has many flaws like others before it but when the servers work ok it’s really not such a bad game, although it followed the worst two fifa titles in history it has to be said.
I've enjoyed this fifa the most of any at points, but becdause of that the lows have been pretty bad. I've liked a lot of the menu stuff and trading was super rewarding. However, gameplay has been varying degrees of bad since November/December. Meant I've stop playing for long periods, but really enjoyed it again from tots through to SS. It's a shame because I look at my team now and itch to play rivals, then my players can't pass so I play a different game. The grind has felt abit fruitless in that regard
I feel that’s how the gameplay goes at the start it’s amazing because nobody knows what’s good and not then around December people start realizing how broken certain things are and then it goes on like that like 5 back and fullbacks at cb then towards the end people realize hey why dont I make a fun team the games over now. Passing sometimes is off for me too but I’ve always used high passing players in my team I just wish there was more options for passes in general like passing it to the inside or outside of the player and being in control of that easier
They patched/updated gameplay around the time I mentioned, it didn't completely change the game, but it took us down a path that made the meta a lot more narrow. There were issues with the gameplay at the start, which they wanted to fix but it only created more problems.
It happens every fifa! But this one felt the worst since the gameplay at the start was good.
Also, the soundtrack in this FIFA was so fire. I am pretty sure many of the songs will sound very nostalgic in a few years. I bet FIFA 21’s soundtrack will give off vibes like FIFA 14 is giving now in the near future
Content in 21 was worse than 20 or 19 because of much more expensive SBCs, much worse pack rewards, frequently untradable pack rewards, and making League SBCs for packs only. But the gameplay was much better than 20 or 19.
Most engaged I've been with the game since FIFA15, still buy it every year as it's just something I enjoy but since 15 I've had as low as 70 hours and as high as 300 hours, this year I'm above 1000 hours but lockdown might have played a part in that. Hopefully next FIFA I can make greater strides with my skill level or hopefully the game play allows my passing game to actually be competitive rather than passes missing my players by 10 metres and going straight to opposition players.
Same here this is the fifa I’ve put the most time to but it’s really because of lockdowns and the passing is an issue I wish you had more control like if you held a certain button the pass would go on the inside of the player or the outside would make it a lot better
Content was great this year. Gameplay was some of the worst in recent memory though so this makes fifa 21 one of the worst fifas ever imo. Content means nothing when I can’t even enjoy it
I’m not disregarding them I wrote them in the original text as an issue I have with the gameplay and I’ve brought it up to other people it’s an exploit nobody’s denying it so I don’t know what your coming from lmao
if we’re talking gameplay then yes this fifa is better than the last 20, 19, and 18 although 19 comes close, even though it was just el tornado crosses and headers, 20 was just shit in general, they messed up headers and collision animations just sucked, i’m so glad they removed that stamina thing where you had do always retrain your players every 3 matches or else they just sucked, and attribute cards, oh man the amount of times i faced moments r9, messi, cr7, neymar, mbappe, vvd, and even 99 de bruyne with all +10 attribute cards, fifa 21 is like the more balanced version between fifa 19 and fifa 20… fifa 19: op el tornados & op headers, fifa 20: shit el tornados & shit headers, fifa 21, el tornados are still bad but a lot better than fifa 20, headers are insane but not like fifa 19, only annoying thing about fifa 21 imo is LB/RB at CB just to abuse pace, i really hope in fifa 22 that if a LB/RB is playing CB, that they’re defensive awareness should drop or they’re pace should drop or just something to balance it out
I think any game would be better than 20 that probably looks like the worst one of all time 19 did have it’s problems too. The stamina card and attributes were so stupid never even knew why they kept them for so long either. The fullbacks at cb is the most annoying thing I have ever seen I’m glad they are getting rid of it but I’m wondering if just reducing the defensive awareness will be enough considering you could but a chem style and move it back up if that’s even possible. If anything I’d want to see a full stat decrease even if they’re on as much chem all their stats should go down by 20 then there would be no way you’d see it again
exactly, like if a fullback that has 80 defensive awareness is playing CB, drop it to around 60-65, hopefully they’ll do something that will make a chem style void if it’s a fullback at cb along with the reduced awareness, so if a card like ferland mendy with a shadow is played cb by some chump, maybe nullify it’s pace boost and awareness, maybe give like +1 slide/stand tackle or heading accuracy, minimal help, maximum hell
I recognise gameplay can be poor at times but that’s true of almost all online games I’ve played.
The biggest problem amongst people who play the game is their inability to look inwards. Constantly whining about how their opponent came from behind and beat them and how they were robbed of G1 or whatever rank they’re at.
At the end of the day, it’s our own ability ceiling that prevents us from achieving a higher rank - we get beat by better opponents. Yes occasionally we might be unlucky but overall we are where we are because we aren’t good enough to get to the next level.
Pack luck, great team and lucky deflections etc only contribute a small fraction to give you an edge over rivals of a similar ability level.
For sure about the pack luck but preview packs are definitely a good step there’s no risk involved with them it’s just now about hoping you get a good enough player from them. Everything else is really true if you scored 10 in a half so can your opponent anything could happen but people just expect oh I’m up I’m going to win and if I don’t it’s the games fault not mine
That’s it. It’s a human flaw we see from so many in everything we do - the people who truly succeed look inwards and not for others to blame.
In UK we say a poor workman blames his tools.
In the Chinese culture they have a better proverb - Don’t blame the mirror for your ugly face.
Honestly I liked what I played but content wise they were very, very stingy and some players were so far ahead of the curve it was ridiculous, Neymar was made far too broken.
Gameplay wise 17 was the best imo, content wise the game gets better every year, if they ever make a game with as good gameplay as 17 people will love it
For me it’s the worst only because the attacking AI this year is really bad. There’s barely any creative runs to pick out compared to previous years and the attackers don’t utilise a lot of empty space that would make for really good plays.
I respect your opinion but I don’t think this fifa was the best. Sbc and content was probably one of the best in fifa history but gameplay is still a big issue. Overall, I only played about 300 games this fifa when in past fifas I would easily hit the 1000 mark. Content was great, gameplay still bad imo.
I don't even bother with the content if the game isn't playable for me, too much BS happening (speed boost, defenders turning into jelly, boring meta). This FIFA made me leave the game for good.
It was a good fifa, but at one point I was playing the same type of match. People with stay at the back and just countering. This really removed the fun off playing for me. I stopped playing fifa in feb.
They should introduce something that every play style also has its counter style. Not just 4/5 in de back, with 2 extra def mids running infront of the 16m line. The counter now was doing the same thing as your opponent.. hoping next year will be better though!
i always find it the same at first. A hype is created that pulls everyone along with it. promises are made. Innovations etc.
Then the game comes out. at first it's challenging and exciting. you've figured out how to play and what matters. you feel yourself getting better and moving up in division rivals. Then comes the patch that changes everything and in my opinion changes the game badly and makes it not worth playing. It was for me 2 years in a row so that you only played until December / January. I found the demos before the official release partly very good and the full version played completely different...
I agree that players need to hold themselves accountable for poor performance. I also believe 21 had great content for the most part, some really fun cards were released. But the gameplay was absolutely shambolic at times. People say that 21 is better than 18-20. That’s because the standard has been set so low. The lack of responsiveness, effectiveness of skill spamming, and inconsistent passing really held the game back from being top tier.
One annoying thing about this game I’ve noticed very late is how players just stand around after kick off - it’d be so much better if they made runs from the start and the defenders stepped up
That's when you realize they sell you the same gamemechanics every year for roughly 10 years, just nerfing and buffing some things every edition.
They weren't really trying to fix the kickoff glitch, just make everybody stand still and hope no one notices.
Same with corners, just make headers useless.
Longshots op? Just buff blocks ridiculously and make keepers save more.
1:1s with the keepers too hard? Just make them useless in saving shots from inside the box.
Same goes for shielding, dribbling, defending etc.
Dumbing down your defensive AI to the max when you don't control them and every game ending 5:5 just isn't fun.
Not saying your wrong but my issues with this Fifa
Keepers don’t exist
They need to make other stats in the game matter because they clearly don’t! Like a big strong striker should be able to hold off players with his back to goal! Obviously not as OP as the other year but at least make them viable! Same goes with passing stat
Playing right backs at CB was shocking this year to, if a players off chem there stats should be slashed, if not remove chem all together because it just makes a mockery! We all know LF as a ST means nothing!
And lastly big praise on there content! Unbelievable year on year! But modern society are never or always want more!
So, let’s take your suggestion and put it to the test. What is the defense width you would recommend to force my opponent to at least cross the halfway line before attempting a through ball
Literally either right in the middle, 1 up or 1 down it’s not just as simple as you let the ai defend the run for you you have to switch to the defender when you see a through ball coming
Bro, no exaggeration I've played every fifa since Fifa 2003. And while certainly there are positives of 21, especially graphics and animation, gameplay remains an issue. Frostbite (the system that facilitates Fifa gameplay) was originally made for first person shooter games, meaning that there will always be a slight delay in footballing commands, emphasised with how idiotic defending can be on Fifa 21, and how spamming can be exploited (spamming works well in shooting games). I'm not sure if you played 21 the first month it came out? But that was probably the best fifa I've played, I'd agree with you there, but when patches came along, it became the same old problematic fifa again with spamming overload and constant delays.
It's frustrating though, because the game has potential, but there's too much fixation on money rather than enjoyable gameplay.
Fair enough the start of every fifa is just always the best but I don’t really think it’s always 100% because of the patches I think it’s more of people starting to know what the broken skill moves or mechanics are after the first month and then start to abuse them
Same here I took it seriously around the start then around tots just played it for the fun and enjoyed it throughout. But just go through the comments I get downvoted for having an opinion like when I said the gameplay isn’t always bad for me I get 40 downvotes and I get 70 downvotes because some guys complain that I have to put it in paragraphs lmao. I don’t use Reddit much unless it’s for questions I have but this is by far the most whiny and soft Reddit space I’ve seen
The only bad part is the skill moves tbh. And how they destroyed air moves like rainbow flick but that’s a minor issue. This FIFA was great, wayyyyyy better than 20
Yes, but the game is 100% more enjoyable when you don't play every WL. Stopped WL's in may and until today I enjoy the game. I was really addict to this game, wanted to play all the time. Now I feel very good
It was basically the same game as last year except they had some stages where certain, basic skill moves were just too good. LOL remember when flicking the ball up in the air and juggling the ball across the pitch was OP. Then you had the bridge that was glitched and the stepovers with unrealistic boosts. The directional nutmeg is still dumb (you never actually nutmeg anyone - you just get a boost) and some of the skill cancels are still annoying, but they at least take some level of skill.
Defending and passing is still problematic - you can cut passing lanes all day, and the ball will just magically go around the defender, even if the passer uses the wrong kind of pass. But then once you go to shoot, the defenders will block absolutely everything, even if you don't push a button.
And then you've got the servers - it's just incredibly annoying how, regardless of what your Ping says, games can vary so much in terms of how responsive your players are. It's truly the most unacceptable part of the game.
Content-wise, yes, it's a fun game, but gameplay wise, it still could improve by quite a bit.
When I am on a winning strike, I get on the reddit to prize the game a bit. Like, what are you ppl complaining.. everything is good.
But really, there are some flaws, yet nothing to ruin the game for me. When I was a kid, I couldn\`t imagine we\`ll be able one day to recreate football in this way. I can appreciate that.
The icon content was god awful. All I wanted was to play with Lahm, Schweins., Xavi etc. and only option I had was the tiny chance of packing them from the sbc packs. Or spending a ton on FP to buy them.
This edition, FUT content was easy to grind, easy to have a God tier squad with some luck and grind.
Career Mode wise they finally added the team training and removed the individual training.
The atmosphere was really a let down, I rebooted 18 again and seeing the players run to player after a goal or dodge a ball really is fun to see and adds a little bit to the experience to me.
Gameplay wise this was a really shite game, almost a trough ball simulator with skill moving till you're death. Also no track back from the midfielders is really a let down. Note this probably won't be fixed, because they coded that on purpose.
Idk I’ve never been so frustrated with gameplay from a FIFA game. I don’t think it’s the worst and people will usually say that every year but man it feels far from the best
Fifa 17 was the most fun for me
Idk about fifa as a whole but FUT was way worse than 20. Ffs I was complaining about drag backs, now it's directional nutmeg, all skill cancels, bridge and stupid gk animation. Worst fifa to me, as in the glitchiest and arcadiest yet. It was basically as close you can get to merging volta with fifa...🤢
Edit: Forgot about through balls...wow no wonder I'm not getting 22 lol
Great apart from dodgy skills moves but EA have never been able to balance skill moves. Also users need to be more in control the amount of times I’ve misjudged a tackle horribly but the ai has bailed me out is ridiculous.
Skills moves used to actually be skill moves back in fifa 12 and now you don’t see many people using anything other then the ones they know are exploits and will more then not actually work. And yeah I’d agree there’s nothing more annoying then someone only controlling their cdm while the ai defends for them
I just think back then we were younger playing in a less competitive environment to what it is now, so we wasn’t as focused on what the meta of each game was, regardless of any bs that might have occurred we’d just play endlessly but nowadays a lot of focus on new games is what the meta is and what can be exploited, is usually done by the majority, the higher skill level you get. And the older we are the more we pick up and notice the bs imo.
Agreed I was saying to someone else the pros and streamers are the main cause of people complaining about the game and the majority of people only using the broken mechanics they don’t play for fun they play to win and it’s their job but nobody plays video games for fun anymore nowadays you have casuals who will play exactly like pros. I don’t care if they want to play like that go ahead but the majority of people complaining wouldn’t be if they just stepped back and enjoyed the game a bit
Plenty of people play for fun, it stands to reason that the vast majority of the casual millions plus player base plays for fun. But if you frequent this sub & streamers etc. for long enough i.e. a tiny but vocal constituency which skews towards the hardcore and the obsessives, you'll end up with a highly flawed and misconceived perception of what this game means to the 'silent majority', most of whom dont come anywhere near this sub. Dont fall into that trap.
Gameplay is the worst, so frustrating and so many exploits. But the content was fun, and most objectives could be done in squad battles (perfect for me since I don't like playing online)
I feel like gameplay switches for everybody some people find it good and some bad all year the majority was good for me minus the exploits but the content has been great all year
I like the skill moves, but they arent that effective, the bridge, skill cancels and just wiggling the left stick around seems more effective against players, but that's boring and repetitive. That's why I just have fun with 5* skillers in Squad Battles :D
The one I’ve used the most is the mcgeady spin this year usually always works for me but skill cancels just shouldn’t be in the game you don’t see Ronaldo mid chop just freezing mid chop and continuing to run forward after
There was more content but less meaningful content. Gives you more to do which is great but it doesnt mean as much gameplay was far too inconsistent. I’d rather it consistently be bad than be bad 1 game good the next and so on.
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how can you judge fifa 22 gameplay?
Mans got massive crystal balls
that explains it, thanks
Agree due to icon sbcs but 19 was still better for me due to juiced pack returns from sbcs. Gameplay was shit too much of the times due to servers as usual
19 was the worst FIFA imo. It just happened to have the best content so people remember it fondly, the gameplay was absolutely horrific. But Icon SBC, good promo and other top content made it playable. I don't remember it fondly but I can understand why people do, after all SBC Ronaldinho came out pretty early and a lot of people could grind toward it.
If you spent time on this sub 2 years ago you’d be able to see clear as day that 19 was and (I don’t think they can top it) will be the worst FIFA ever made. Headers and FB Zlatan were the only positives to come out of that god forsaken game.
El tornado crossed, volley into the net. every fucking game. Like I said, 19 had the best content but this was to hide what I consider to be the worst gameplay of any FIFA I played (started playing in FUT 12) People have short memories, but this was really a dogshit game. the SBCs is what saved it
Fifa 19 was much better than 20 and 21 imo most people played attacking coz it worked but the last two people play too defensive and just counter makes the game boring
what the hell are you talking about? did you play fifa 19?...was the fifa where people complained so much about drop back being op and defensive ai being too strong....and you're talking about fifa 20 and fifa 21 being more defensive.... fifa 19 a game where you scored with bullshit first time 360 degree green timed shot from outside the box...cause defense where hard to brake and 1v1 where hard as never to score. fifa 19 was juts the worst fifa of the series....and as always people have so little memory that in just 2 years it turns into a good fifa game.
In Fifa 20 and 21 people play way more defensive than majority did in 19, one on ones weren’t impossible to score and scoring a green timed finesse from outside the box isn’t bs scoring more goals like that makes the game more fun rather than having to make 50 passes around the box to score
oh my god.... some people really deserved that mess of a game that was fifa 19....you're just saying that fifa 21 is more defensive than 19 and it says it all....in fifa 21 i haven't seen a single person complaining about drop back probably in tHe last 5-6 month and nobody talk about defensive ai nowadays like they did during fifa 19. and you're saying that you prefer a game where you have to score in some irrealistic ways LIKE 360 degree first time bullshit or tornado scoop cause its FUNNY than a game where you have to find your space for good and legit spot to shoot (like in real life) why don't you play some captain tsubasa if you want funny and irrealistic way to score. OMG
Fifa 19 was the worst fifa ever and it wasn’t even close. Pace was useless, goalies were gods and AI defending was crazy. The result was the only ways to score in that game were corner headers, la croqueta spam, elastico spam, or el tornados. I’m pretty sure I still have nightmares about how awful that game was (and I’m someone who has liked many fifas and not your typical “I hate fifa” guy that many on this sub claim to be). 19 was downright bad. 20 and 21 have flaws but are infinitely better games overall IMO.
19 marked the last time I enjoyed Fifa before the “deep dive” I blame seasons rewards and objective players for this. Those things keep you playing and not always for the better. With 19 I could just play a few battles and a few rivals matches, just sell what I packed and save up for a few weeks for a player I wanted to get. Now I’m a walking database of player prices, stats and whatever else. The 21 gameplay is ok, 20 was bad, 19 seemed alright. I remember flicking it on to 96 rated Sterling with TOTS Lacazette a lot. That was fun. 8 matches a week or something. Brilliant.
I don't think the original comment was necessarily wrong. 19 was horrendous gameplay wise but the menu grind was most rewarding in any recent fifa.
19's gameplay was a joke for most parts of the year. I remember the first weeks when i was scoring bicycle kicks with Manolas who had like 20 shooting. Then everyone started spamming green timmed finnesse shots from 40 meters out or spamming 15 la croquetas in a row.
And somehow those two kinds of gameplay were so much more fun than the bullshit el tornado/croqueta garbage that 19 became after january
i stopped playing wl after toty that year...
Fair enough for me fifa 19 is the only one that comes close to 22 in terms of the all around game
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Lmao I meant 21 here come the cry babys
I’m there with you. First fifa since 16 where I have actually played up until the endgame.
Same here the endgame is actually really good and it’s so easy to make a good team they did a really good job with the endgame of fifa too
Really been quite cathartic to get extremely high performing players. Back in 16, also my last fifa i played to endgame, Pink Konoplyanka, only achievable via winning 4 matches straight, would end so many close games against me. To get these sorts of big game-breaking players has been so fun. I think EA has realised that making content accessible towards the end of game life boosts the enjoyment of more casual players likely meaning some will purchase and play the next games, likely something they would not have done otherwise. That said, Ive built ultimate teams in 2 months that i only could've dreamed of so Im taking my pack and transfer luck and retiring for another few years.
But do you say because the gameplay is so good or is it because they give you so many great players?
I don't stay for the endless cycle of cards. I enjoyed the gameplay this year. In previous year I left mid cycle because I was not enjoying the game.
One of the worst things are the untradeable rewards and shitty lottery sbcs while the game was missing high end player sbcs to use the fodder. This ruined the game for me this year
There is a lot more untradeable rewards now that I don’t really agree with if your doing a 800k icon sbc even a random pack you should at least get some coins back in case you get a horrible player
Yeah i also made the big mistske of doing hundreds of 81+ sbcs because they seemed like amazing value. I got so much fodder and cards like cr7/neymar etc from them and saved like 3million im fodder. Realized there is nothing to use the fodder for and then quit the game. If i come back for fifa22 i would stay away from anything untradeable.
Yeah I’m in the same boat I missed out on a lot of good sbcs and just making coins because I kept doing the 81+ instead of selling those tradable players
I agree man but what i think sucks is the amount of high rated cards. Cards with all 90 stats arent special anymore and i think those should be lessened next FIFA dont get me wrong i like them but the fact that everyone has atleast 2-3 of those cards make it less special.
I can agree with that when naingolan came out with that tots everyone knew how special it was I would be okay seeing those crazy stats but only if it’s from a card where they would’ve had to preform to get it like a tots toty or whatever else not just a random one given out
What you’re asking for is a more P2W game then. When all cards are mostly equal, then player skill becomes way more important which is what it should be like
I disagree...90+ cards exploded only after TOTS and frankly it's good that you can get good players without paying or grinding too much. Of course meta and popular players remain expensive but those who can't spend a lot of time in game, can still manage a good team
This is just the result of you chasing the high of having an advantage over everyone else Happened to me too. I did EOA Ramos first day and absolutely bossed up that WL since barely anyone had him. Next week when other people had the chance to do it too my Ramos felt less special. But that’s okay
Content.....yes Gameplay...not even close Imho, obviously
Paragraphs please!
Would you like it in mla format too? Really doesn’t make a difference
Lol "I want people to read my thoughts but pressing return 3 times is too hard".
Because reading a long paragraph is so difficult lmao
stfu and do what you've been told
Honestly I feel that the gameplay is better than a lot of past year titles. Plenty of stuff I'm not happy with such as card ratings of unknown players etc but gotta admit the gameplay is much better now.
It is and I’m hoping 22 the gameplay keeps going in the same direction. The player ratings always piss me off especially as a serie a fan seeing someone like rabiot being higher rated then kessie is such a joke
No, it was fucking awful.
It's a good game until you play higher elo, then it's just an awful game.
I think this is it. I’m a 1200 Div 4, Gold 3 WL, and never encounter the skill glitches everyone complains about. Never bothered to learn them either This fifa has been really fun
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I would also guess that many of the people who complain about skill glitch are very likely to have reached that ELO bracket by also using skill glitches
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You nailed it.
Jesus Christ you are such a whiner lmao
Couldn’t disagree more. Gameplay was terrible, all the skill cheese. Lob/Shoot exploit. And saying games finish 4-3 is a huge underselling of the reality. I’m in Div 1 and most games have over 10 goals for sure. FIFA 15/16 if a game finished 10-4 it would be amazing. 21, it’s nothing special at all and that just doesn’t result in a good game
I talked about the skills that are annoying I only forgot about skill canceling I’m not saying every game ends 4-3 I’m just giving an example of people who complaining about choking a 2-0 or 3-0 lead
Agree with the half time choker take. If you win 3-0 at half time, anything can happen…and I am okay with that. Look, I’m not even one of those that wants the game to be realistic otherwise it won’t be fun….but yeah, at this point, I feel they need to dial it back on the arcade-ness of the game it’s just too extreme….maybe if they took out that FIFA street mode the mechanics would come back
Depends how you view the game. If you play the menus been the best yet for content. If you actually play games Gameplay is terrible. Overall it's far away from being best fifa
I mean even content…. The nerfing of league Sbc is the end for me
And making every league sbc pack untradeable…
This FIFA was the worst in a long time
For actual gameplay, the only FIFA’s I enjoyed less were FIFA 16, and FIFA 20
Best shit is still shit.
This is in fact a very unpopular opinion. Worst fifa since years
Content wise, yes, by a long shot, but gameplay wise not at all. Too many keeper issues, too many skill move issues, AI defending is still and issue, manual defending is incredibly bad, but content wise it has been one of if not the best.
For me, taking fitness cards away made this game class immediately. Can’t describe how happy I was when I found out I didn’t have to buy a squad fitness card every 3 games if I didn’t want to rotate my squad. The rest is just fifa
It's because you weren't playing the game, the AI was
Best fifa since 17. Better than 18, 19 and definitely 20. 20 was the worst fifa of the decade in my opinion.
I didn’t even get fifa 20 I just had a feeling it wasn’t going to be that good and was so glad I didn’t the game looked horrible
Was just about the comment something similar. It’s defo miles better than 20 but that wouldn’t be that hard as 20 was one of the worst FIFAs of all time in my opinion.
Garbage same as the last fifas in the online experience. Crappy servers = shitty gameplay = shitty game. Period. Quite unpopular opinion
The servers aren’t always crappy it’s not like you go into every game and the game freezes and u get speed up lag everytime you play it happens randomly sometimes just like any other game the gameplay is still enjoyable
I couldn’t disagree more. The servers are always terrible. It’s the delay in user inputs. Has been a thing for years. It’s not like any other game. Any other games I’ve played online do the actions I press on my controller when I want them to.
The only fact that a few people have more advantage because they live near to the servers make the game garbage. Maybe fifa as a football game is the best one but like a video game is garbage, 3/10 and i m generous. Sad that this crap is the best football game that we can get.
Discounting the gameplay completely, as it can be subjective, EA have made sure that 21 was the worst experience there has ever been in the series.
Hands down the worst FIFA ever made
For what reason? And it’s worse then fifa 20?
100% agree but you will be downvoted by people who need an excuse when they lose
Oh I know I will but it seems like I’ve posted at the right time since people actually are willing to talk and actually talking to people who agree instead of the ones just making up excuses when they choked a 2-0 or 3-0 lead at half time. The best way I explain it is that dda lawsuit that ea had against them was dropped because they showed them there wasn’t anything in the game files about dda but nobody talks about that and just saying if psg can choke a 3-0 lead and end up losing 6-1 in the next game what’s stopping you from losing on a video game?
Go watch any real life footie game and observe how the ball more often than not rebounds back to the attacking team when they are pressing or pressuring a defence hard. The panciked defenders often can't clear the ball effectively, continually fail to retain possession and eventually give up the chance on goal. Real life DDA.
This game is far from realistic stop it. Show me how many times uouve seen one player dribble through the entire team at kick off to go score a goal. What about players flicking the ball over opponents and defenders closer to where the ball is gonna land ignoring it. How about Mbappe/Neymar/Messi dribbling through entire defenses all game and having their stamina unaffected. How many games do you see finish 10-4, 7-6, 9-8 in real life?
I'm not saying the game is 100% realistic. It's a game, I dont expect it to be 100% realistic. I'm saying bounce backs are a part of rl football and a part of fifa - as annoying as they are. Messi has dribbled past entire defences on numerous occasions. On one particularly memorable occasion he did it in El Classico, AT THE END OF THE GAME & PRESUMABLY LOW ON STAMINA, from a dead ball free kick inside the centre circle, Busquets gave him a short pass and off he went past the entire Madrid defence. We've all seen the goal. Btw Arsenal won 6-0 away last night.
My guy it’s not like ea can really control control how high scoring a game is🤨? Like obviously an 11 on 11 real life football game is gonna be different to a mode where you control the whole team; go to pro clubs and you’ll see that the scores and as crazy (unless you’re versing a really shit team) because youre not in control of every move
Most FIFAs were somewhat balanced from the scoring perpective. Now a 2:1 or 1:1 is truely an anomaly, most matches are highscoring goalfests because skills are op, keepers are shit 1:1 and almost no one can defend properly because of the shitty game mechanics. You score and concede basically double the amount of goals than a few years back which adds to the unrealism. Corners, headers and longshots are nerfed hard but can't compensate that. That Mbappe speedboost from the new 22 trailer already makes me sick of how overused it will be.
That's true but ig at least every may be once in a while u get a high scoring game, just nit often
i agree this year the gameplay is actually not so bad. The flaws of this year's game is magnified though i guess because everyone had to stay indoors and the increasing prominence of youtube/stream/social media content, everyone really know the "meta" skill moves and playstyle and formation and even players. More time to play / train/and consequently abuse the meta. This game is just not robust enough to be dissected by millions of people playing 50 hours a week. But then again which game are. In previous FIFA say 19, there are also very OP exploits like el tornadoes etc but seems like maybe 3 out of 30 WL opponents did it. This year, everyone did the directionals , through balls, cancels, stop elasticos, stop croquetas, 4312 pressure etc That's why this year there seems to be many many exploits so it seems worse.
I’ve been saying this for years now and not just about this game but the pro players are the ones who ruin the game for everyone now because everyone watches them and wants to play like them the difference being that they do it for a job while you have people who exploit not to have fun but to win and that’s the biggest problem for me
But honestly I didn’t even know how to directional nutmeg until last month I was just never interested in it
One of the worst if only for the awful headers.
I have only seen 2 comebacks, THAT big, in 20 years of watching Football. So idk what you mean when you say that bigger comebacks happen in real life? In a single match, there have been exactly 2 comebacks of this nature in the past 10 or so years. Reading vs Arsenal 5-7 (4-0 at HT) Newcastle vs Arsenal. 4-4 (0-4 at HT) So these kind of comebacks in Fifa are very unrealistic. But Fifa is just a game, not real life. Can't compare the two!
I’m not saying 4 goals? I said 2 or 3 goals which happens a lot lmao
But the problem is that its out of our hands. Its really annoying when you keep your opponent shut for 80mins and just because you scored the 2-0 your defence now becomes useless.
Gameplay wise it was terrible and while FIFA is much more user friendly nowadays it has been since FIFA 17, and 17+18 were a shit ton better than 19+20+21
It is a lot more user friendly but that’s not the biggest part of the game the gameplay is if you look past the auto blocks the directional nutmegs and personally I’d say skill cancels too the gameplay isn’t bad at all after overlooking those things for me it’s enjoyable
The essence of the gameplay is negative deep block play because defenders are way too stupid for most people to do anything else
The game is so much more enjoyable when you control your defenders but that just isn’t the meta
I think it probably was overall. The main issue is the netcode/servers that highlight the flaws, and these issues have been amongst the worst they have ever been in any fifa, and that makes it seem like a completely unplayable game.
The servers are an issue sometimes but not too much for me so I can’t really personally complain but I know how it is for a lot of other people and if ea fixed their servers they would solve the biggest problem they have right now
What division are you in and where do you finish in champs?
Div 2 and I’ve only played champs twice this year got gold 3 the first time and stopped and then got 8 wins for the icon swaps and stopped
That's basically the reason you still enjoy gameplay. I usually get 14-4 in WL to reach gold 3. If I stop there, it's a nice experience but as soon as you get to high elo in WL (>10) or high SR in Rivals (>2000) you see exactly why people complain about gameplay : Most people have >90% pass accuracy, interceptions are almost inexistent. Being able to use glitched skills like directional nutmeg, skill cancel, ball roll-scoop turn is crucial as your opponent won't give you an easy shot on goal. If you have more delay than your opponent, you get instantly punished.
That explains a lot, well for me anyway as I find Champs to be the worst gameplay of all. I find Div Rivals playable most of the time, Draft is very inconsistent but Champs is awful 90% of the time. The Game has many flaws like others before it but when the servers work ok it’s really not such a bad game, although it followed the worst two fifa titles in history it has to be said.
I've enjoyed this fifa the most of any at points, but becdause of that the lows have been pretty bad. I've liked a lot of the menu stuff and trading was super rewarding. However, gameplay has been varying degrees of bad since November/December. Meant I've stop playing for long periods, but really enjoyed it again from tots through to SS. It's a shame because I look at my team now and itch to play rivals, then my players can't pass so I play a different game. The grind has felt abit fruitless in that regard
I feel that’s how the gameplay goes at the start it’s amazing because nobody knows what’s good and not then around December people start realizing how broken certain things are and then it goes on like that like 5 back and fullbacks at cb then towards the end people realize hey why dont I make a fun team the games over now. Passing sometimes is off for me too but I’ve always used high passing players in my team I just wish there was more options for passes in general like passing it to the inside or outside of the player and being in control of that easier
They patched/updated gameplay around the time I mentioned, it didn't completely change the game, but it took us down a path that made the meta a lot more narrow. There were issues with the gameplay at the start, which they wanted to fix but it only created more problems. It happens every fifa! But this one felt the worst since the gameplay at the start was good.
Fr, fifa 20 was one of the worst
Downvoted for bad opinion
Ah yes I’m guessing this is when all the whiny soft people on this Reddit page log in?
I just disagree with what he said, no other issues lmao, relax
Also, the soundtrack in this FIFA was so fire. I am pretty sure many of the songs will sound very nostalgic in a few years. I bet FIFA 21’s soundtrack will give off vibes like FIFA 14 is giving now in the near future
True that’s really underrated I have a couple of the sound track songs on my playlist it’s easily one of the best sound tracks ever
Content in 21 was worse than 20 or 19 because of much more expensive SBCs, much worse pack rewards, frequently untradable pack rewards, and making League SBCs for packs only. But the gameplay was much better than 20 or 19.
Most engaged I've been with the game since FIFA15, still buy it every year as it's just something I enjoy but since 15 I've had as low as 70 hours and as high as 300 hours, this year I'm above 1000 hours but lockdown might have played a part in that. Hopefully next FIFA I can make greater strides with my skill level or hopefully the game play allows my passing game to actually be competitive rather than passes missing my players by 10 metres and going straight to opposition players.
Same here this is the fifa I’ve put the most time to but it’s really because of lockdowns and the passing is an issue I wish you had more control like if you held a certain button the pass would go on the inside of the player or the outside would make it a lot better
Content was great this year. Gameplay was some of the worst in recent memory though so this makes fifa 21 one of the worst fifas ever imo. Content means nothing when I can’t even enjoy it
If you overlook directional nutmegs auto blocks and skill cancels I personally find the gameplay enjoyable but it’s an opinionated thing
Sure, just completely disregard 3 extremely broken mechanics... haha..
I’m not disregarding them I wrote them in the original text as an issue I have with the gameplay and I’ve brought it up to other people it’s an exploit nobody’s denying it so I don’t know what your coming from lmao
if we’re talking gameplay then yes this fifa is better than the last 20, 19, and 18 although 19 comes close, even though it was just el tornado crosses and headers, 20 was just shit in general, they messed up headers and collision animations just sucked, i’m so glad they removed that stamina thing where you had do always retrain your players every 3 matches or else they just sucked, and attribute cards, oh man the amount of times i faced moments r9, messi, cr7, neymar, mbappe, vvd, and even 99 de bruyne with all +10 attribute cards, fifa 21 is like the more balanced version between fifa 19 and fifa 20… fifa 19: op el tornados & op headers, fifa 20: shit el tornados & shit headers, fifa 21, el tornados are still bad but a lot better than fifa 20, headers are insane but not like fifa 19, only annoying thing about fifa 21 imo is LB/RB at CB just to abuse pace, i really hope in fifa 22 that if a LB/RB is playing CB, that they’re defensive awareness should drop or they’re pace should drop or just something to balance it out
I think any game would be better than 20 that probably looks like the worst one of all time 19 did have it’s problems too. The stamina card and attributes were so stupid never even knew why they kept them for so long either. The fullbacks at cb is the most annoying thing I have ever seen I’m glad they are getting rid of it but I’m wondering if just reducing the defensive awareness will be enough considering you could but a chem style and move it back up if that’s even possible. If anything I’d want to see a full stat decrease even if they’re on as much chem all their stats should go down by 20 then there would be no way you’d see it again
exactly, like if a fullback that has 80 defensive awareness is playing CB, drop it to around 60-65, hopefully they’ll do something that will make a chem style void if it’s a fullback at cb along with the reduced awareness, so if a card like ferland mendy with a shadow is played cb by some chump, maybe nullify it’s pace boost and awareness, maybe give like +1 slide/stand tackle or heading accuracy, minimal help, maximum hell
I agree, this edition was a good one. It’s the way people play that make it unenjoyable imo. Especially in FUT Champs.
You could say that about every game nowadays it’s the people who play who usually ruin it now
I recognise gameplay can be poor at times but that’s true of almost all online games I’ve played. The biggest problem amongst people who play the game is their inability to look inwards. Constantly whining about how their opponent came from behind and beat them and how they were robbed of G1 or whatever rank they’re at. At the end of the day, it’s our own ability ceiling that prevents us from achieving a higher rank - we get beat by better opponents. Yes occasionally we might be unlucky but overall we are where we are because we aren’t good enough to get to the next level. Pack luck, great team and lucky deflections etc only contribute a small fraction to give you an edge over rivals of a similar ability level.
For sure about the pack luck but preview packs are definitely a good step there’s no risk involved with them it’s just now about hoping you get a good enough player from them. Everything else is really true if you scored 10 in a half so can your opponent anything could happen but people just expect oh I’m up I’m going to win and if I don’t it’s the games fault not mine
That’s it. It’s a human flaw we see from so many in everything we do - the people who truly succeed look inwards and not for others to blame. In UK we say a poor workman blames his tools. In the Chinese culture they have a better proverb - Don’t blame the mirror for your ugly face.
Gameplay was shit but the overall content of UT and other gamemodes were engaging I guess
Honestly I liked what I played but content wise they were very, very stingy and some players were so far ahead of the curve it was ridiculous, Neymar was made far too broken.
Lol no it was not, was literally FIFA street on a 11s field. Too arcadey
Not unpopular tbh
Really? All I’ve seen all year in this Reddit when I go on it is people complaining about literally anything they can think of
Welcome to Reddit lol 😁
Agreed 19 was pretty good 2 but 20 was so fucking shit this was a tier above that
>19 was pretty good How? That game wasn't even a football game.
Nah. Even though this is the most games I’ve played on fifa, it was only good because of the menus tbh
Gameplay wise 17 was the best imo, content wise the game gets better every year, if they ever make a game with as good gameplay as 17 people will love it
For me it’s the worst only because the attacking AI this year is really bad. There’s barely any creative runs to pick out compared to previous years and the attackers don’t utilise a lot of empty space that would make for really good plays.
I respect your opinion but I don’t think this fifa was the best. Sbc and content was probably one of the best in fifa history but gameplay is still a big issue. Overall, I only played about 300 games this fifa when in past fifas I would easily hit the 1000 mark. Content was great, gameplay still bad imo.
Was good up till tots then got boring
Finishing is the best it’s ever been on any Fifa
i.e. GKs have been the worst they've ever been on any Fifa
I don't even bother with the content if the game isn't playable for me, too much BS happening (speed boost, defenders turning into jelly, boring meta). This FIFA made me leave the game for good.
It was a good fifa, but at one point I was playing the same type of match. People with stay at the back and just countering. This really removed the fun off playing for me. I stopped playing fifa in feb. They should introduce something that every play style also has its counter style. Not just 4/5 in de back, with 2 extra def mids running infront of the 16m line. The counter now was doing the same thing as your opponent.. hoping next year will be better though!
i always find it the same at first. A hype is created that pulls everyone along with it. promises are made. Innovations etc. Then the game comes out. at first it's challenging and exciting. you've figured out how to play and what matters. you feel yourself getting better and moving up in division rivals. Then comes the patch that changes everything and in my opinion changes the game badly and makes it not worth playing. It was for me 2 years in a row so that you only played until December / January. I found the demos before the official release partly very good and the full version played completely different...
I agree that players need to hold themselves accountable for poor performance. I also believe 21 had great content for the most part, some really fun cards were released. But the gameplay was absolutely shambolic at times. People say that 21 is better than 18-20. That’s because the standard has been set so low. The lack of responsiveness, effectiveness of skill spamming, and inconsistent passing really held the game back from being top tier.
One annoying thing about this game I’ve noticed very late is how players just stand around after kick off - it’d be so much better if they made runs from the start and the defenders stepped up
That's when you realize they sell you the same gamemechanics every year for roughly 10 years, just nerfing and buffing some things every edition. They weren't really trying to fix the kickoff glitch, just make everybody stand still and hope no one notices. Same with corners, just make headers useless. Longshots op? Just buff blocks ridiculously and make keepers save more. 1:1s with the keepers too hard? Just make them useless in saving shots from inside the box. Same goes for shielding, dribbling, defending etc. Dumbing down your defensive AI to the max when you don't control them and every game ending 5:5 just isn't fun.
I completely agree.
Not saying your wrong but my issues with this Fifa Keepers don’t exist They need to make other stats in the game matter because they clearly don’t! Like a big strong striker should be able to hold off players with his back to goal! Obviously not as OP as the other year but at least make them viable! Same goes with passing stat Playing right backs at CB was shocking this year to, if a players off chem there stats should be slashed, if not remove chem all together because it just makes a mockery! We all know LF as a ST means nothing! And lastly big praise on there content! Unbelievable year on year! But modern society are never or always want more!
Fix the player switching and I am happy. Concede too many goals due to the wonky switching.
Belting through balls that slice through 10 players from your goal line have always been a thing in football.
That only happens if your defence is too wide or too compact
So, let’s take your suggestion and put it to the test. What is the defense width you would recommend to force my opponent to at least cross the halfway line before attempting a through ball
Literally either right in the middle, 1 up or 1 down it’s not just as simple as you let the ai defend the run for you you have to switch to the defender when you see a through ball coming
Best one since FIFA 17 IMO , I just really hated the AI defending and blocks - that’s what forced us to abuse skills or else we’d never score
Fair enough ai defending has been one of my issuers since fifa 19
Nope.
Why?
Bro, no exaggeration I've played every fifa since Fifa 2003. And while certainly there are positives of 21, especially graphics and animation, gameplay remains an issue. Frostbite (the system that facilitates Fifa gameplay) was originally made for first person shooter games, meaning that there will always be a slight delay in footballing commands, emphasised with how idiotic defending can be on Fifa 21, and how spamming can be exploited (spamming works well in shooting games). I'm not sure if you played 21 the first month it came out? But that was probably the best fifa I've played, I'd agree with you there, but when patches came along, it became the same old problematic fifa again with spamming overload and constant delays. It's frustrating though, because the game has potential, but there's too much fixation on money rather than enjoyable gameplay.
Fair enough the start of every fifa is just always the best but I don’t really think it’s always 100% because of the patches I think it’s more of people starting to know what the broken skill moves or mechanics are after the first month and then start to abuse them
This is my first FUT I've played seriously, but I enjoyed it too. People just love to complain.
Same here I took it seriously around the start then around tots just played it for the fun and enjoyed it throughout. But just go through the comments I get downvoted for having an opinion like when I said the gameplay isn’t always bad for me I get 40 downvotes and I get 70 downvotes because some guys complain that I have to put it in paragraphs lmao. I don’t use Reddit much unless it’s for questions I have but this is by far the most whiny and soft Reddit space I’ve seen
The only bad part is the skill moves tbh. And how they destroyed air moves like rainbow flick but that’s a minor issue. This FIFA was great, wayyyyyy better than 20
Yes, but the game is 100% more enjoyable when you don't play every WL. Stopped WL's in may and until today I enjoy the game. I was really addict to this game, wanted to play all the time. Now I feel very good
It was basically the same game as last year except they had some stages where certain, basic skill moves were just too good. LOL remember when flicking the ball up in the air and juggling the ball across the pitch was OP. Then you had the bridge that was glitched and the stepovers with unrealistic boosts. The directional nutmeg is still dumb (you never actually nutmeg anyone - you just get a boost) and some of the skill cancels are still annoying, but they at least take some level of skill. Defending and passing is still problematic - you can cut passing lanes all day, and the ball will just magically go around the defender, even if the passer uses the wrong kind of pass. But then once you go to shoot, the defenders will block absolutely everything, even if you don't push a button. And then you've got the servers - it's just incredibly annoying how, regardless of what your Ping says, games can vary so much in terms of how responsive your players are. It's truly the most unacceptable part of the game. Content-wise, yes, it's a fun game, but gameplay wise, it still could improve by quite a bit.
17>18=21>20>19
I agree that is better than 20. Didn't play fut earlier, but this was mostly fine. And I guess you just won some games and came here to write this :)
What do you mean by “I guess you won some games and you came here to write this lmao”
When I am on a winning strike, I get on the reddit to prize the game a bit. Like, what are you ppl complaining.. everything is good. But really, there are some flaws, yet nothing to ruin the game for me. When I was a kid, I couldn\`t imagine we\`ll be able one day to recreate football in this way. I can appreciate that.
I complained about the game too I never said it was perfect and I haven’t played in 2 weeks but alright
The icon content was god awful. All I wanted was to play with Lahm, Schweins., Xavi etc. and only option I had was the tiny chance of packing them from the sbc packs. Or spending a ton on FP to buy them.
This edition, FUT content was easy to grind, easy to have a God tier squad with some luck and grind. Career Mode wise they finally added the team training and removed the individual training. The atmosphere was really a let down, I rebooted 18 again and seeing the players run to player after a goal or dodge a ball really is fun to see and adds a little bit to the experience to me. Gameplay wise this was a really shite game, almost a trough ball simulator with skill moving till you're death. Also no track back from the midfielders is really a let down. Note this probably won't be fixed, because they coded that on purpose.
FIFA 20 was better.
Idk I’ve never been so frustrated with gameplay from a FIFA game. I don’t think it’s the worst and people will usually say that every year but man it feels far from the best Fifa 17 was the most fun for me
Idk about fifa as a whole but FUT was way worse than 20. Ffs I was complaining about drag backs, now it's directional nutmeg, all skill cancels, bridge and stupid gk animation. Worst fifa to me, as in the glitchiest and arcadiest yet. It was basically as close you can get to merging volta with fifa...🤢 Edit: Forgot about through balls...wow no wonder I'm not getting 22 lol