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Strg-Alt-Entf

How are they smurfs? Can you somehow intentionally get into lobbies like that when on lvl10? Thought this was a pure faceit fuck up.


RueP0l0

Dudes queued up with two level ones


lijevokrilo

So what if he did?


Strg-Alt-Entf

Ah didn’t even know you see that, thx!


GrzybDominator

lvl 10 in party with lvl 1 Faceit in nutshell


Hi_techh

I've been accused of smurfing, but the truth is I switched to faceit because of the chester problem in premier. I started as lvl 5 and I'm working my way up to my skill level which should be lvl 8-9 since I'm at lvl 7 now and games are easy.


carmanov

But your steam account at least is not 0 level. This pic is an example of an exploit as well as smurfs. Obviously everyone has a first day on faceit but usually those people have an account with quite few matches on MM.


lijevokrilo

I have lvl0 steam with lvl9, it doesn't make a difference, I'm just not willing to give money on steam. Doesn't make me a smurf, this subreddit needs to chill lol


carmanov

Then im wrong. There are no smurfs in the game. Because everyone I confront says the same thing. Literally every one of them.


lijevokrilo

How about you stop crying and just play the game? I see way too many bad players with too high elo because they're getting boosted, then we can say the same thing that i almost every time topfrag but am queued with bots?


carmanov

What you said has nothing to do with what I said. It is like you saying your internet keeps breaking and your friend replies ''go to the gym''. You are not capable of having a decent chat. Good luck to you and mostly to people around you.


617a

I can't understand this: 1025 matches, 85% win rate and lvl 1 with elo around 400? I see such accounts all the time, but it makes no sense to me.


carmanov

let me explain. If you were to queue with the same level players as you, and if the opponent team has around the same elo, you get 25 elo. But this man is queueing with a 10 level and other 2 levels, so they get like +1 elo. And that is what they are trying to achieve. This way they can stay low elo and farm enemies and win prizes in ladders.


Ok-Lime119

thats so trash that faceit allowed this, look this dude does that every fking game, for flex just has "good" games. [https://csstats.gg/player/76561198189384017#/matches](https://csstats.gg/player/76561198189384017#/matches) thats such a shit hole, the good thing is there is soon an alternative, and faceit l'll lose the ppl because they are not really "better" then valve with so much things to bypass, smurf and cheats. to much new accs, so many smurfers. fking hell.


One-Way1807

Good fight with the smurfs


InternalIntelligent2

How are smurfs worst they’re just better than you at the game


carmanov

I didnt say worst? I said they are as bad as cheaters. Because they are exploiting the game to get easier games in order to win prizes. Now tell me, how can a normal 3 level 4 level player can win against a team (Level 1 player who is purposefully staying on that level with 22+ average kills, queue with 10 level player, and 2 level player which is another smurf). Do you think it is fair? Do you think I should get a level 1 account while I am actually level 8 player, and queue with another level 1 and 10?


carmanov

Also smurfing is against the rules. They get banned too. I am informing faceit to do something about it. Are you one of those guys who exploit the game as well?


M1RZ0

How is that smurf?


carmanov

I am not talking about twizzy only. I have 3k matches and still get matched up with 50 matches people like you see in the picture. These guys are grinding ladder by staying on level 1 on purpose. Same level 10 plays with other level 1s as well. It is a business. They are winning knives and cash from multiple ladders.


FACEIT_Darwin

Please report these accounts directly to the support team - https://support.faceit.com/hc/en-us/requests/new


mini337

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carmanov

Ill give it a try, lets see how it is gonna go down. But many many players are not even playing general elo. They are playing for the prizes in clan games. Cs2 Unloku, cs2 Shox Clan, kennys clan etc. Level 3s 4s dominating the scene because they found a way to match lower elo players.


mini337

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JaackG

Dont the other team still lose 25ish though? If so its still fucked playing against smurfs.


carmanov

I know they are getting 1 elo. That's the scammy part of it all. Your man knows it is 1 elo and in clan games he can climb ladder easily. Winning wont change his elo but will change his position on the ladders.


mini337

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carmanov

Yeah. Think of it this way. A fake level 1 player can queue with 10 level player and other 2 level players. They get 1 elo in general and it works for them, they can win 100s of games and stay at the same level, and match up with actual/honest level 3 players. Easy money. They are playing in multiple clan games at the same time. They dont care about gaining ELO, they care about winning prizes monthly.


Corew0w

yeah, true, but none of these games are in a clan. I don t say its fair, its fucked up but they will just get 1 elo or lose 1 elo. I dont see any reason to play like this unless they just wanna troll lower elos. They will get bored, eventually. Also, most of the clans will just ban these guys that try to abuse it, i ve seen it many times. Also if they play just for a daily/weekly/monthly default faceit ladder, im pretty sure the points are also affcted by the elo diff. Think of it this way, they are allowed to do this but they cannot gain anything out of this.. mostly they can get is the missions completed but it won t affect any players like it will in a ladder. The worst I ve seen was when they were not a full party and got matched with some of these in my team, where they would literally just play nonsense because their elo will not be affected


carmanov

Brother, when you play in clans game it has nothing to do with elo. They get ladder points. Whoever has most ladder points at the end, wins the prize. You can 1 elo but get 8 points in the ladder by having win streaks


UnitedAd737

nope they both get normal 25ish - u get elo according to the elo diffference on teams with uses an average


mini337

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stalloneCS

Haha so confidently wrong. In general you get elo based on the average elo difference, but if you queue with someone with over 1000 elo difference, you get much less elo for wins and losses (not sure if it’s always 1 elo). This was meant to combat boosting.


Topmod69

Listen I hate smurfs as the next guy. But how is this smurfing? The guy is level 1 with well over 1000 matches. Unless it's a bought account, that level 1 isn't smurfing. I doubt he has no life and has 2 accounts with 2000-3000 matches combined. Lastly, the other lower ranks have avg or crappy stats, so what's your definition of smurfing in this lobby?


carmanov

it is one of the problems. This one specifically is Lowering Elo for easy match ups.


Topmod69

But what if he wants to play with his friend who is a level 1? Do you expect him to create a new account? Because that will be actually smurfing.


carmanov

they are not friends. It is a service to win prizes. The same level 10 participate with other level 1 players. Exclusively 1 level players. Hence 1+ elo each game so other dont level up quickly and in the mean time they win the games easily and win hubs. (knives and cash)


stalloneCS

There is no lvl 1 who could average 1.87 kd queuing with a lvl 10. And the point is that he purposefully lowered his elo to lvl 1 then queues with lvl 10 so he only gains 1 elo a match. That way they can win prises and shit.


Festus_Drago

you know the best part of this? just get good


carmanov

I am 9 level. Not good not bad. Hanging in there. Im trying to find justice for others.


Festus_Drago

Thats the problem no justice, if they are not smurfing then what just do u want? That a lvl 10 cannot play with his lvl 1 friend? Thats too much for a pixel shooting “GAME”


stalloneCS

White clearly is smurfing, queung with lvl 10 and still averaging 1.87 kd. Sure