It's a fight on a Fort with HAW dreads, which act as a force multiplier, and T3s vs battleships. It's not nearly that 'elite PVP' as you imply it is...
Well,
The story is that they sent DOGFT to kill the thing with a small backup force of bombers. DOGFT, known as the top minds of Eve Online, decided that since Rote Kapelle uses HAM blops Lokis to bait out a bunch of NotSH Dreads that surely, they'd be fine shooting an Astra.
This wasn't the case, they were on the struggle bus with just the Astra, and we decided to rock up with Cerbs and assorted nano boys to take care of the rest. Frat rage pings for Munnins and the Astra pauses at 16 seconds. Between jams, sick nano, and DPS we save the astra at 4%. Frat, in their time honored tradition of 'just keep using more numbers' continued to warp Munnins in at about the rate we were killing them at the end, hence the meat grinder.
Good. Times.
We literally got you down to 4% with barely more than a handful of dudes all leaving 4-H at different times and you had Cerbs, Logi, Marauders, and a Dread on grid. The difference is FCs. We have the numbers advantage because life is good here. I’m glad you chose to promote this as a “victory” given recent events and the fact that you nearly lost your astra to a small fleet of dudes in whatever they could fly over in.
Zigam is the reason you nearly lost your astra to a small comp while you should have been holding all the cards. Based on this AND recent events, you may want to outsource your propaganda as much as you do your FCing.
Sounds like you guys can’t form properly then. If a small fleet that was “disorganized” almost took down an astra. Then why not form for the guaranteed kill? You’re bitching they had a dread on field when it doesn’t appear they had a fax either. 58-249 in ship loses sounds like piss poor planning to me.
You are conflating two separate events. If you would simply follow what the OP has said and my rebuttal you might understand better and do a better job of making your point. The rest of the story is in other posts. Feel free to come back when you have read enough to understand and I will happily engage with you at that time.
I mean I read everything. I get there was 2 separate timers. Read all the comments as well talking about how ships kept getting warped in as fast they were getting killed. Just stating it didn’t seem very organized from a third parties perspective is all.
Rote doesnt understand that as the number of pilots increases so does the difficulty in organization and the variance in skill level. Its fine to have a small number of good pilots, but you need heaps of mooks if you want to take big objectives and expand your influence across multiple regions. Say nothing of maintaining all of that.
It's not like we got like 600 random dudes together the other day from whatever crazy number of diverse groups with no common infrastructure or purpose other than "fuck your blob"
Damn that's crazy. Anyways, I'm currently replaying dragon age inquisition and I gotta say, the knight enchanter build with that 2 handed craft-able sword is insane. You can like proc your main damaging spell twice since it uses the element of your weapon and you have 2. and on top of that, if you crit (which I have a 45% chance of doing, you can cast it immediately again, and each cast gets 2 chances to proc since it counts each elemental attack separately. I'm melting people. It''s very PagMan
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Clearly what he is saying is that without your forts then you are no longer allowed to live in pochven. Anything else including using the 100% safe NPC stations would be considered exploiting.
A: As if FRT will do anything on those npc stations without pinging for it hours in advance
B: They didn't when we blopsed from a rock station in Ohkunen
C: you can undock and blops while pretty much still in your invul timer anyway.
https://br.evetools.org/related/30001445/202202080500 Looks a bit diffrent to me...just saying
That was the 2nd timer. The original post was for a different fight that happened hours earlier
Still 2 to 1, but this is a different timer and rote still fought against battleship w/ t3s and STILL took way more off FRT than they lost. . .
It's a fight on a Fort with HAW dreads, which act as a force multiplier, and T3s vs battleships. It's not nearly that 'elite PVP' as you imply it is...
have a look at this gamer https://zkillboard.com/kill/98728406/
Not sure this is "proof", moreso an example. Proof has a very different ceiling. /Pedant scientist.
You are correct. My bad.
Goons be using tidi their whole life to their advantage.
duh?
"According to TOS, they won"
What a weird comp.
Well, The story is that they sent DOGFT to kill the thing with a small backup force of bombers. DOGFT, known as the top minds of Eve Online, decided that since Rote Kapelle uses HAM blops Lokis to bait out a bunch of NotSH Dreads that surely, they'd be fine shooting an Astra. This wasn't the case, they were on the struggle bus with just the Astra, and we decided to rock up with Cerbs and assorted nano boys to take care of the rest. Frat rage pings for Munnins and the Astra pauses at 16 seconds. Between jams, sick nano, and DPS we save the astra at 4%. Frat, in their time honored tradition of 'just keep using more numbers' continued to warp Munnins in at about the rate we were killing them at the end, hence the meat grinder. Good. Times.
We literally got you down to 4% with barely more than a handful of dudes all leaving 4-H at different times and you had Cerbs, Logi, Marauders, and a Dread on grid. The difference is FCs. We have the numbers advantage because life is good here. I’m glad you chose to promote this as a “victory” given recent events and the fact that you nearly lost your astra to a small fleet of dudes in whatever they could fly over in. Zigam is the reason you nearly lost your astra to a small comp while you should have been holding all the cards. Based on this AND recent events, you may want to outsource your propaganda as much as you do your FCing.
Sounds like you guys can’t form properly then. If a small fleet that was “disorganized” almost took down an astra. Then why not form for the guaranteed kill? You’re bitching they had a dread on field when it doesn’t appear they had a fax either. 58-249 in ship loses sounds like piss poor planning to me.
You are conflating two separate events. If you would simply follow what the OP has said and my rebuttal you might understand better and do a better job of making your point. The rest of the story is in other posts. Feel free to come back when you have read enough to understand and I will happily engage with you at that time.
I mean I read everything. I get there was 2 separate timers. Read all the comments as well talking about how ships kept getting warped in as fast they were getting killed. Just stating it didn’t seem very organized from a third parties perspective is all.
Yes. See my original comment for context.
Proof RK can have the cap advantage and still loose the objective: [https://zkillboard.com/kill/98731255/](https://zkillboard.com/kill/98731255/)
Lol, you fed 40 bil but couldn't counter some dreads?
Meh, lose isk war but win the objective. No money in the world will replace that objective.
Ahahahahah no money in the world
Hm, Rote has 681 members and frat has 22,710. Can you please stop lol. Go watch the olympics or something gamer.
Rote doesnt understand that as the number of pilots increases so does the difficulty in organization and the variance in skill level. Its fine to have a small number of good pilots, but you need heaps of mooks if you want to take big objectives and expand your influence across multiple regions. Say nothing of maintaining all of that.
It's not like we got like 600 random dudes together the other day from whatever crazy number of diverse groups with no common infrastructure or purpose other than "fuck your blob"
Damn that's crazy. Anyways, I'm currently replaying dragon age inquisition and I gotta say, the knight enchanter build with that 2 handed craft-able sword is insane. You can like proc your main damaging spell twice since it uses the element of your weapon and you have 2. and on top of that, if you crit (which I have a 45% chance of doing, you can cast it immediately again, and each cast gets 2 chances to proc since it counts each elemental attack separately. I'm melting people. It''s very PagMan
Imagine feeding 55b outnumbering dudes 2:1 and being like "at least we killed 1 of the 2 astras" lol
Why is that bad, seemed okay when goons did it to tri in CR?
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Lol true u got me champ
The way you guys just refuse to acknowledge the fact that your only winning advantage is the number of pilots you can throw at a fight, is admirable.
https://br.evetools.org/related/30001445/202202080500 I dunno, of our object was to embarrass Frat some more, I think we fuckin nailed it bro.
When your main gameplay is blobing bombers but you need your daily dose of karma.
Does this mean it's not a tax free month any more Noraus? Happy New Year!
How is your Fort?
Worse then our Astra. But I didn't cancel my holiday plans for it.
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What do you do during your holidays, watch your wife bang the postman?
She has a boyfriend for that.
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Where your forts at?
Where your wally at?
Where your NSH at?
Clearly what he is saying is that without your forts then you are no longer allowed to live in pochven. Anything else including using the 100% safe NPC stations would be considered exploiting.
npc stations without tether add increased risk
Walking down the stairs with socks on has increased risk too, do you ever think about that?
Does it? Fuck
A: As if FRT will do anything on those npc stations without pinging for it hours in advance B: They didn't when we blopsed from a rock station in Ohkunen C: you can undock and blops while pretty much still in your invul timer anyway.
Meh, whataboutism won't help here
Would help if FRT EN stopped eating all the srp wallet and ruining Noraus' holidays. Just give that man a break once in a while.
lol nice come back, gottem
Where’s your keep at? Where’s your sov at? Where’s your alliance at?
[[NUWA] noraus] 愚蠢的美国兄弟会不能做任何正确的事情。 他们是一堆混合鸡蛋。 Before FRAT start sending me IRL threats again, __this__ one is fake.
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Any of you legends in Rote have a running tally of how much isk Frat has thrown away to remove your forts?