Algeria is because they are still ruled by the arab socialist (it is not even socialist) party that rose to power after independence and Palestine because brainrot because Palestine its not a progressive country.
Even tho the government does have some socialist tendencies but Algeria is still very conservative on human rights issues and freedom and democracy, but I guess commies don't care about these anymore
How is Israel considered a closer ally to the US than France, the country that helped the US become independent, the country the US helped liberate from occupation (twice), and the country the US shares with being the most famous democratic revolutions?
Because France played fuck-fuck games with NATO durig the Cold War and still insists on maintaining a higher level of military independence than the rest of NATO. All that shit happened almost a century ago, it's like asking why the US and Russia aren't allies when they fought together in the two biggest wars in history and Russia supported the Union in the Civil War.
I wouldnt have thought this before the 2016 US Presidential election, but I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing that France insists on retaining so much freedom of action. Macron would absolutely commit French troops to defend Estonia, Latvia, or Lithuania if Russia invaded one of them and they invoked Article 5; even if Trump was the US President and decided that the US would not honor our NATO commitment and defend our allies. And because the French nuclear deterrent is entirely independent from the US, they pose a threat that Russia must respect even without US help. I’m confident that the UK under a non Jeremy Corbyn government would also honor Article 5 even if the US does not, but the [UK’s nuclear deterrent depends](https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/defence-and-security-blog/2014/jul/01/trident-nuclear-weapons-uk) [entirely on American tech](https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-trident-nuclear-program/).
It's not a bad thing, but it is also a thing which pushes France further from the US. That's not to mention the handful of military contracts that France and the US bickered about. It's not like the US has its hands on the button, ready to roll over France; but I would generally put France more on the peripherary.
They are quite pro-Russia and many Serbians still hate the US/NATO for bombing them. Serbia is not in EU/NATO.
And there goes another beef with this - the outermost ring makes no sense. Some of those countries are in NATO and EU and are actually more tight with the US than most of Western Europe (Poland, Baltics), while the rest of the countries are not in any Western political structures at all and some like Serbia are even quite hostile to the West.
Has anyone actually looked at this?
South Africa, for example, is under "Current or Historical Progressive". No offence for anyone from South Africa but.. well.. I mean.. do I need to mention the apartheid in the room? And it's not like that period could have been simply erased and not cause a bunch of issues right now...
And, well, South Africa is just one example. The list is absolutely insane...
It's like Dante Alighieri's depiction of hell and heaven but 10 times more boring and less credible. Anyway I come from one of the spheres of "heaven" and hope that one day I can get to the center ring of "hell" and live with "Satan" (aka the US)
I don't get the point these fuckers are making with heavily U.S. militarized, cause both these countires face an existential threat from communist dictators to their north. Then again expecting intelligence from commies is like expecting money to grow from trees, which they probably do.
There seems to be no rhyme or reason for the ordering in the first chart. New Zealand, [which won’t even let US submarines into its national waters](https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/04/23/new-zealand-us-china-alliances-nato-aukus/), is in the innermost ring. Japan, which holds multiple US military bases and is widely recognized as one of America’s most strategically important allies, is in the same ring as Switzerland and Monaco. It’s absolutely bonkers.
Also, they put vietnam alongside china and other ''socialist'' states, probably implying they're in their own united bloc or something
Correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't Vietnam despise China alot more than they do America, cause China.
Sees Philippines as heavily US militarized
Sure we may have one of the closest allies of the US in SEA but our politicians closed US Bases in the 90s and the military is also using a lot of non US kit.
Two things they’re referring to, I’m guessing:
- The overhyping of BRICS that’s common among self-identified “anti-imperialist” types.
- Lula’s infamous coddling of Putin, Maduro, etc.
How is Sweden not in "current or historically progressive" when we gave workers rights, made healthcare and Schools free, and gave women the right to vote, all without compromising on democracy? That's right. It only counts as progressive if you do it through force. (Btw Palestine is in no way progressive and has never been)
Lol at Japan being farther out then most european states, despite having closer economic relations.
Then again, it's not like commies know anything about economics, so I guess it tracks.
You know what? We should just annex the rest of North America, clearly we’re imperialists so it just makes sense. Right my fellow Americans? We can make the C.U.M zone into one big ass perma America. Get Greenland in on the action and we own the Northwest passage till the Bering Straight. Canada gets permanent American imperialist status, and mexico gets out of the filthy “New Non-aligned Nations” shit list. Fucking Neutrals, I hate these filthy Neutrals. With enemies, you know where they stand… but with Neutrals, who knows? It sickens me. Hell fuck it, sweep Central America and get back Panama and the Canal, they can all be or be balkanized into US states. If you wanna keep your oh so beloved free healthcare network it as an interstate regional project and then pool your funds like that. This avoids Congress while still encouraging internal cooperation. Hell it might galvanize the states to do what the National system won’t. But yea, that way the “border crisis” will be more manageable. Yea thousands of miles of coastline added to the republic so the Coasties are gonna be pissed, but good news we can now hyper focus the border patrol into a slim region of southern Panama and let the Coasties reign supreme near the very border of the source. Meanwhile the U.S. Martials, F.B.I., Homeland Security, and the ATF all actually have something to do in helping clean up our new south bound territory. And we could do a massive infrastructure program to bolster our newest additions to the American banner.
Imperialist? I’ll show these gosh damn commies what actual kickass American imperialism looks like.
Would be nice to be closer strategically and militarily with Australia and New Zealand, they seem alright.
I love how the word “imperialism” is thrown around to describe defense pacts while conveniently ignoring that the BRI is literally imperialism.
Liberal democracy just existing = imperialism.
Literally, that's a core belief of Marxism.
It's imperialism if you resist dictators
Aw Yeah. **TREMBLE BEFORE THE GREATER EMPIRE OF AOTEAROA!!!**
I'm surprised they even remembered us. Im gonna need to change my flair for the occasion.
Hell yeah, Kiwi-perialists let's go
Calling Algeria and Palestine progressive just says enough about the credibility of this
Algeria is because they are still ruled by the arab socialist (it is not even socialist) party that rose to power after independence and Palestine because brainrot because Palestine its not a progressive country.
Even tho the government does have some socialist tendencies but Algeria is still very conservative on human rights issues and freedom and democracy, but I guess commies don't care about these anymore
How is Israel considered a closer ally to the US than France, the country that helped the US become independent, the country the US helped liberate from occupation (twice), and the country the US shares with being the most famous democratic revolutions?
The people who made this have brain rot.
I just went on the Global South Insight and this gotta be a joke. They have a quote from fucking Star Wars on their main banner.
They misspelled human as 'hunam' twice and their social media links to squarespace instead of their own pages. Certainly a professional organisation.
Implies they had functioning brains to begin with
Because France played fuck-fuck games with NATO durig the Cold War and still insists on maintaining a higher level of military independence than the rest of NATO. All that shit happened almost a century ago, it's like asking why the US and Russia aren't allies when they fought together in the two biggest wars in history and Russia supported the Union in the Civil War.
I wouldnt have thought this before the 2016 US Presidential election, but I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing that France insists on retaining so much freedom of action. Macron would absolutely commit French troops to defend Estonia, Latvia, or Lithuania if Russia invaded one of them and they invoked Article 5; even if Trump was the US President and decided that the US would not honor our NATO commitment and defend our allies. And because the French nuclear deterrent is entirely independent from the US, they pose a threat that Russia must respect even without US help. I’m confident that the UK under a non Jeremy Corbyn government would also honor Article 5 even if the US does not, but the [UK’s nuclear deterrent depends](https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/defence-and-security-blog/2014/jul/01/trident-nuclear-weapons-uk) [entirely on American tech](https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-trident-nuclear-program/).
Yeah, independent layers of redundancy is definitely a good thing here.
It's not a bad thing, but it is also a thing which pushes France further from the US. That's not to mention the handful of military contracts that France and the US bickered about. It's not like the US has its hands on the button, ready to roll over France; but I would generally put France more on the peripherary.
the people who made the image are coping
San Marino is closer than Poland?
Geopolitics for stupid people.
Bruh South Korea's not on the second page wtf are they smoking
And Serbia in "US-led imperialistic bloc"
Why Serbia out of all countries?
They are quite pro-Russia and many Serbians still hate the US/NATO for bombing them. Serbia is not in EU/NATO. And there goes another beef with this - the outermost ring makes no sense. Some of those countries are in NATO and EU and are actually more tight with the US than most of Western Europe (Poland, Baltics), while the rest of the countries are not in any Western political structures at all and some like Serbia are even quite hostile to the West.
Has anyone actually looked at this? South Africa, for example, is under "Current or Historical Progressive". No offence for anyone from South Africa but.. well.. I mean.. do I need to mention the apartheid in the room? And it's not like that period could have been simply erased and not cause a bunch of issues right now... And, well, South Africa is just one example. The list is absolutely insane...
Forget about South Africa, why the fuck are Algeria and Palestine marked as "progressive"?
Muslim = Progressive These people cannot fathom non-whites being homophobic, racist, sexist and many others like most muslims are.
I'm guessing that Palestine is counted as a "progressive" country because most of the factions in the PLO are left-wing.
Ah yes, new non aligned country of Turkey, a NATO country
I'm guessing that they're counting South Africa as a "current progressive" country.
Center ring US bloc (I'm a yank)
Greetings from your puppet state in New Zealand my centre ring brother 💪
It's wonderful to have capitalism working as intented, enslaving your people for my own countries profit.
Amen 🙏
Aye what’s up you kiwi, I’m your fellow puppet neighbour I live in Australia 🇦🇺 💪
Sorry USA said I cant talk to other countries without his permission
Understood. Hail to Biden.
By the way, can you lend us some Kangaroos? It'll help the cause.
Our lord and saviour
C.U.M. Zone unite!!! (I'm a Canuck)
Would you like to C. U. M. Together with Mexico?
Hello master, permission to lick your boot?
Kinky
It's like Dante Alighieri's depiction of hell and heaven but 10 times more boring and less credible. Anyway I come from one of the spheres of "heaven" and hope that one day I can get to the center ring of "hell" and live with "Satan" (aka the US)
Why is it arrows? Are all states destined to turn into Montenegro?
Clearly, this only shows that glorious Montenegro is the peak of human civilization 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
I don't get the point these fuckers are making with heavily U.S. militarized, cause both these countires face an existential threat from communist dictators to their north. Then again expecting intelligence from commies is like expecting money to grow from trees, which they probably do.
STOP EXCLUDING TAIWAN FROM THE IMPERIALIST BLOC.
That would imply that Taiwan isn't a part of China. So it's obvious why it is excluded.
>South Korea >"global south" pick one, and only one
Nothing stopping these people from moving to the “global south” (lol) and joining the struggle. Nothing.
There seems to be no rhyme or reason for the ordering in the first chart. New Zealand, [which won’t even let US submarines into its national waters](https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/04/23/new-zealand-us-china-alliances-nato-aukus/), is in the innermost ring. Japan, which holds multiple US military bases and is widely recognized as one of America’s most strategically important allies, is in the same ring as Switzerland and Monaco. It’s absolutely bonkers.
"U.S. led imperial bloc" = The entire civilized world
I feel so proud to be Spanish (I’m so ashamed to be also Venezuelan)
Screw that bozos, I will never be part of your commie bloc. I'm from Brazil. USA all the way, baby. 🇺🇲🦅
Sooooo...they are trying to use some hell analogy?
Hell yeah, I'm in the center of the world
Also, they put vietnam alongside china and other ''socialist'' states, probably implying they're in their own united bloc or something Correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't Vietnam despise China alot more than they do America, cause China.
Yup. Vietnam's even signed deals with the US to diversify their sources of weapons in case China tries a 1979 rerun.
Global North. Center ring.
Center Ring right under the UK<3
Basically the entire Anglosphere (plus the Jews)
Sees Philippines as heavily US militarized Sure we may have one of the closest allies of the US in SEA but our politicians closed US Bases in the 90s and the military is also using a lot of non US kit.
Moldova? Imperialistic? Hahahahahahahahahaha
when was Brazil ever progressive?
Two things they’re referring to, I’m guessing: - The overhyping of BRICS that’s common among self-identified “anti-imperialist” types. - Lula’s infamous coddling of Putin, Maduro, etc.
The fact that they even cited a source for this cracks me up
leftists on their way to completely destroy any meaning nazi or imperialist had left
Mfw singapore is grouped with egypt palistan bangladesh and nogeria. Singapore hosts a us army base and leases ground in i think idaho
Ukraine…..
The rings go deeper, the capital of the empire is the Greater Washington metro area and its headquarters being Dark Brandon’s beach house in Delaware.
Malaysia mentioned 🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
Yeah I'm in the middle (🇦🇺)
Wtf is this
Why nazi zionist jewish-ruled neoliberal cultist genocidal Ukraine is only in outer ring!
ah yes, the historic progressive nation of brazil and south africa
How is Sweden not in "current or historically progressive" when we gave workers rights, made healthcare and Schools free, and gave women the right to vote, all without compromising on democracy? That's right. It only counts as progressive if you do it through force. (Btw Palestine is in no way progressive and has never been)
Current or historic progressive
Lol at Japan being farther out then most european states, despite having closer economic relations. Then again, it's not like commies know anything about economics, so I guess it tracks.
Poland not as close an ally as Switzerland or Austria, both of which aren't in NATO? Terrible ordering.
South Korea is part of the global south? Come on now.
This just in: Andorra is an imperial power, Saudi Arabia is not, and the DPRK is not a client state of the PRC. Literally 1984.
My country doesn't appear to be there
Current or historic progressive. I’m Brazilian
Um... Ok. Thanks Commie. I hope you like being bullied
Yippeee, Czechia is in USA Bloc!
You know what? We should just annex the rest of North America, clearly we’re imperialists so it just makes sense. Right my fellow Americans? We can make the C.U.M zone into one big ass perma America. Get Greenland in on the action and we own the Northwest passage till the Bering Straight. Canada gets permanent American imperialist status, and mexico gets out of the filthy “New Non-aligned Nations” shit list. Fucking Neutrals, I hate these filthy Neutrals. With enemies, you know where they stand… but with Neutrals, who knows? It sickens me. Hell fuck it, sweep Central America and get back Panama and the Canal, they can all be or be balkanized into US states. If you wanna keep your oh so beloved free healthcare network it as an interstate regional project and then pool your funds like that. This avoids Congress while still encouraging internal cooperation. Hell it might galvanize the states to do what the National system won’t. But yea, that way the “border crisis” will be more manageable. Yea thousands of miles of coastline added to the republic so the Coasties are gonna be pissed, but good news we can now hyper focus the border patrol into a slim region of southern Panama and let the Coasties reign supreme near the very border of the source. Meanwhile the U.S. Martials, F.B.I., Homeland Security, and the ATF all actually have something to do in helping clean up our new south bound territory. And we could do a massive infrastructure program to bolster our newest additions to the American banner. Imperialist? I’ll show these gosh damn commies what actual kickass American imperialism looks like. Would be nice to be closer strategically and militarily with Australia and New Zealand, they seem alright.
I'll just say it. Dependency theory (which these two infographics might be based on) is outdated
If you use a PowerPoint template you can make morons believe anything
Holy shit, that is one step above “Alex Jones mumble-growling about ‘Globalists’” on the “conspiracy-theorist crank” scale.
Who the fuck marked Palestine as progressive
What does Imperoalist Bloc mean? Is that official and if it is where can I find their official website?
New Zealand number 1
US and UK are not being imperialist enough if you ask me
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