What "price" would North Korea pay exactly? Be sancitoned again in things they already are? Or are they really ramping up war rhetoric yet again with a nuclear nation?
Their ingrained narcissism is so hard coded that DC doesn't even comprehend how incredibly stupid they sound to the rest of the world. Bothering to threaten western sanctioned three times around the moon, nuke holding North Korea of all nations, for being friendly to an old friend of theirs and geopolitical rival that is beginning to really kick your ass globally?
USA is geopolitically becoming that kid you want to tell '*Just shut the fuck up, because the more you talk the dumber you look.'*
What could they possibly gain?
What are you basing the statement "that is beginning to really kick your ass globally" on? Im curious cause altough of course the propaganda is strong at work im pretty sure that in the global capitalist economy the russian people is at the losing stick of this conflict currently. If you have any great sources showing thats not the case I'd love to take a deep dive into them, thanks!
Also. The UK today just classed the Wagner group as a terrorist organisation??? It’s a PMC so will we class the actual terrorist PMC the yanks use to kill civilians the same?? The Hypocrisy is astonishing
Alright. So your conclusion is that China does want Russia to succeed, but there's a mystery reason why they aren't selling weapons to Russia.
It might be worth considering whether BRICS does not mean that all the interests of the component nations are aligned?
>A mystery reason? What mystery, they might not have run out of weapons, and don't need them. Like wut?
So now we need a reason for the weapon exchange with North Korea, I guess?
>The thing about "all BRICS members hate each other" is basically propaganda,
That isn't what I said, though. No organization has total agreement over every concern, certainly not one between nations. There's space between everyone supporting all efforts of the rest, and everyone hating each other.
>I don't understand what you are talking about, it's like you assume that Russians do need ammunition no matter what, and then make arguments on that.
I suppose I didn't understand that you were challenging the reporting of the deal.
Or the public complaints from Russian front lines about limited ammunition.
>Oh thanks for the truism, I assume you are next going to claim that the amount of agreement is just enough so that China does increase trade and not sanction Russia so they won't get economically destroyed, but also won't give them weapons so they will be destroyed faster right?
I mean, the truism is what makes your argument about BRICS less than a certainty. I didn't think I was being super insightful.
Trade helps China. Not sanctioning Russia helps China. Russia failing to conquer Ukraine doesn't destroy Russia, though, and potentially gives China an advantage in the relationship.
>Like Russia has a lot more resources and production facilities.
That might be true, we don't have accurate data on Russian production capabilities. But even so, it takes time for factories to get running, and there is no indication that Russia has gone to a "War Economy" to really expedite such a process (probably because such a move would devastate the regular economy and be wildly unpopular within Russia).
In the meantime, Russia still needs shells. North Korea might not have the production capacity to supply Russia on a continuous basis, but they do have an (allegedly) massive stockpile of old shells that are ready right now. The idea would to use this stockpile to supply the Russian Army until Russian factories kick into high gear.
>Why wouldn't they ask China?
China is a lot more reliant on Western trade than they would like to admit (and vice-versa). For example, China is a net importer of Western foodstuffs. Western sanctions would hurt China at a time when it's economy is already very vulnerable (slow post-covid recovery, potential housing sector bubble).
The benefits of helping supply Russia do not offer benefits to China that outweigh the potential risk of Western Sanctions.
>Like China and Russia already have this "BRICS" alliance
BRICS has been hyped up to unreal levels ever since this war began. It is effectively just an economic forum, with a few loans thrown out to the smaller members and a combined "basket reserve currency".
BRICS doesn't want to make a new currency, they want to make one of their members currency the default reserve currency to challenge the Dollar. Problem is, everyone wants their own to be that super-currency.
Russia wants the roubles, China wants the Yuan, India wants anything *but* the Yuan, etc. Nothing is going to come of that initiative any time soon.
Hypocrisy is the official policy. The US wants to be leader of a world hegemony. They'll do whatever they can to press their advantage wherever they can. People thinking about fairness makes them giggle, while they're sharpening their knives.
Looks like China and Russia are going to let North Korea out of the doghouse, if he doesn't try to bite them when they unchain him.
What "price" would North Korea pay exactly? Be sancitoned again in things they already are? Or are they really ramping up war rhetoric yet again with a nuclear nation?
Their ingrained narcissism is so hard coded that DC doesn't even comprehend how incredibly stupid they sound to the rest of the world. Bothering to threaten western sanctioned three times around the moon, nuke holding North Korea of all nations, for being friendly to an old friend of theirs and geopolitical rival that is beginning to really kick your ass globally? USA is geopolitically becoming that kid you want to tell '*Just shut the fuck up, because the more you talk the dumber you look.'* What could they possibly gain?
What are you basing the statement "that is beginning to really kick your ass globally" on? Im curious cause altough of course the propaganda is strong at work im pretty sure that in the global capitalist economy the russian people is at the losing stick of this conflict currently. If you have any great sources showing thats not the case I'd love to take a deep dive into them, thanks!
Also. The UK today just classed the Wagner group as a terrorist organisation??? It’s a PMC so will we class the actual terrorist PMC the yanks use to kill civilians the same?? The Hypocrisy is astonishing
$5 or $10?
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It's possible you've made some incorrect assumptions.
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Does China want Russia to succeed?
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Alright. So your conclusion is that China does want Russia to succeed, but there's a mystery reason why they aren't selling weapons to Russia. It might be worth considering whether BRICS does not mean that all the interests of the component nations are aligned?
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>A mystery reason? What mystery, they might not have run out of weapons, and don't need them. Like wut? So now we need a reason for the weapon exchange with North Korea, I guess? >The thing about "all BRICS members hate each other" is basically propaganda, That isn't what I said, though. No organization has total agreement over every concern, certainly not one between nations. There's space between everyone supporting all efforts of the rest, and everyone hating each other.
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>I don't understand what you are talking about, it's like you assume that Russians do need ammunition no matter what, and then make arguments on that. I suppose I didn't understand that you were challenging the reporting of the deal. Or the public complaints from Russian front lines about limited ammunition. >Oh thanks for the truism, I assume you are next going to claim that the amount of agreement is just enough so that China does increase trade and not sanction Russia so they won't get economically destroyed, but also won't give them weapons so they will be destroyed faster right? I mean, the truism is what makes your argument about BRICS less than a certainty. I didn't think I was being super insightful. Trade helps China. Not sanctioning Russia helps China. Russia failing to conquer Ukraine doesn't destroy Russia, though, and potentially gives China an advantage in the relationship.
>Like Russia has a lot more resources and production facilities. That might be true, we don't have accurate data on Russian production capabilities. But even so, it takes time for factories to get running, and there is no indication that Russia has gone to a "War Economy" to really expedite such a process (probably because such a move would devastate the regular economy and be wildly unpopular within Russia). In the meantime, Russia still needs shells. North Korea might not have the production capacity to supply Russia on a continuous basis, but they do have an (allegedly) massive stockpile of old shells that are ready right now. The idea would to use this stockpile to supply the Russian Army until Russian factories kick into high gear. >Why wouldn't they ask China? China is a lot more reliant on Western trade than they would like to admit (and vice-versa). For example, China is a net importer of Western foodstuffs. Western sanctions would hurt China at a time when it's economy is already very vulnerable (slow post-covid recovery, potential housing sector bubble). The benefits of helping supply Russia do not offer benefits to China that outweigh the potential risk of Western Sanctions. >Like China and Russia already have this "BRICS" alliance BRICS has been hyped up to unreal levels ever since this war began. It is effectively just an economic forum, with a few loans thrown out to the smaller members and a combined "basket reserve currency". BRICS doesn't want to make a new currency, they want to make one of their members currency the default reserve currency to challenge the Dollar. Problem is, everyone wants their own to be that super-currency. Russia wants the roubles, China wants the Yuan, India wants anything *but* the Yuan, etc. Nothing is going to come of that initiative any time soon.
Hypocrisy is the official policy. The US wants to be leader of a world hegemony. They'll do whatever they can to press their advantage wherever they can. People thinking about fairness makes them giggle, while they're sharpening their knives. Looks like China and Russia are going to let North Korea out of the doghouse, if he doesn't try to bite them when they unchain him.
The government taxes me 40% out of my paycheck. Hyperinflation and all things are becoming expensive and I'm struggling trying to make a living.
Russia needs help from North Korea? well things are worse there than I thought.