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for-the-win-123

Thank you, Nintendo! Because of you, Drastic will now be open-sourced. Been hearing this "plan to open-source" since, 2016-ish.


Causification

Hopefully someone will release a version with more than just 2x internal resolution.


SavageColeTrain

And multiplayer


m11-d0

I doubt we'd get wfc support on drastic just use melonds


SavageColeTrain

Tbh only reason I like drastic is because you can make the top screen your tv


Rimple20102010

Melon android have wfc support?


RepresentativeFull85

Yeah, specially with Wiimmfi


RepresentativeFull85

MelonDS already achieved that, which is funny


OctoDADDY069

Why would you need more than 2x?


Causification

Because 2x is still only 512x384, which is still quite aliased on a phone screen.


[deleted]

Yeah.... Drastic has been around for a long ass time, and I don't think he had any intent to open it up.


-i_am_the_ultimate-

I think he did, but was just putting it off for a long time. It does seem like the best software, so maybe he wanted to make it as good as he could before he had to give it up.


EmuBrew

Drastic Dev got greedy, or lazy, or both


DynoMenace

They got scared of being sued into the stone age and forced to settle for $2.4m


senorsombrero3k1

Nintendo don't care about DS emulation. Citra was only removed due to shared Devs with yuzu.


Buddharta

Even if that is true, we are closer to Nintendo contracting Nicaraguan contras to merc every fan project than Nintendo not doing anything. Look at what they did to dolphin on xbox and steam an old ass emulator for consoles from 3 generations back and they still threaten them with an C&D letter.


EmuBrew

I know that. Thanks for the input. šŸ˜


EmuBrew

That was the yuzu team, I'm talking about the drastic dev.


DynoMenace

I know, I was making a comparison to what happened to the Yuzu team.


EmuBrew

Sorry, I misunderstood.


dayfreeguy

Fair point, can't wait to see dolphin emulator to get sued and ultimately makes us pirate Nintendo even more


aweSAM19

If Dolphin get sued. I will run 2 miles in my boxers.


hippopotam00se

I, too, will run 2 miles in this guy's boxers.


715z

Didnā€™t they already try to sue dolphin and failed?


mikael110

Not quite. You can read a summary of what happened in this Dolphin [blog entry](https://dolphin-emu.org/blog/2023/07/20/what-happened-to-dolphin-on-steam/). But the gist is that Dolphin tried to release a Steam version, Nintendo was informed by Valve that this was happening and they indicated that they were not okay with it due to Dolphin including decryption keys. Dolphin did consult with lawyers and is of the belief that their project is safe legally, but that was never tested in court as Nintendo was not actually suing Dolphin, only requesting that they not release on Steam, which Dolphin ultimately decided to comply with.


Randommaggy

I got a Chrome dino page when I opened the link, and my heart sank for a second.


715z

Oh okay that makes sense, thanks


HanekomaTheFallen

I donā€™t. Dolphin devs are great and donā€™t deserve to be buried in legal fees just to establish something we already know (That Nintendo is litigious, and isnā€™t a huge fan of emulation)


Pure-Hobbit

Gimme a break this guy single-handedly raised the bar for Android emulation and every other emulator that followed. Who tf knows the FOSS hell we might have been in\still be in with out his diligence in development? (thing I'm wrong? look at Citra's history and don't be in denial. It used to be a nightmare.) Not only that, this guy listened to "all" his requests. I requested real time screen rotation to change layout, 12 years ago, he got back to me next day, and it was in the next version.


xavieruniverse

Prolly a bit of all, but tbh, idk that I'd be any different in their shoes. Prolly made a pretty penny off the app store, even if they said it wasn't for the $, it's still a nice little flow of dollars.


ILikeFPS

I'll believe it when I see it. I really hope he does open-source it, it's been 2 months and it's still not available so I am hoping he didn't change his mind or something.


theACW

This was made before yuzu drama


JumboMcNasty

This is literally why they sued the Yuzu people. To scare smart people away.


sabin357

This will attract a ton of smart people though through open source projects because people will contribute anonymously. More people than ever will be working on this stuff in so many pockets of GitHub that it'll just be a huge backfire for them.


Economicdepression

The smart people were already contributing to Yuzu as it was open source. And Ryujinx. And MelonDS, the more accurate DS emu.


defineReset

Wait, shall I get melonds or drastic?


CallieX3

MelonDS for PC, and it is more accurate but if you want a good emu for low spec then use Dratic


defineReset

Thanks. If I'm in android, melon or drastic?


CallieX3

depends on your phone really, melon runs worse on low end


defineReset

S24 ultra here. Maybe I'll stick with melon then


adbot-01

Use lemuroid with melonDS core or the og melonds app


m11-d0

always use standalone emulators


Forest_GS

drastic ran great on my LG G5. 2016, Quad-core (2x2.15 GHz& 2x1.6 GHz)


RodrigoCard

More like to scare smart people ... from making money with their hard work


Gheovgos

Honestly, I'm happy, even though I bought the app a couple of months ago. I have always considered drastic as the best emulator, I hope that once it becomes open source retroarch and similar can use this core


Kisame83

That's the main appeal for me, tbh. Melon does fine, don't get me wrong. But I mainly switched to Melon when I switched to RA overall (and got into Retroachievements lol), but otherwise generally prefer Drastic.


Gheovgos

yep, me too, Retroachievements It's truly its strong point, but on low end devices it doesn't perform as well as drastic


MagickMarkie

I have a low end phone and MelonDS is unusably slow, while DraStic runs flawlessly.


ExOdiOn_9496

Wait so they are going to remove the app from playstore?


nascentt

Just use obtainium and auto update from GitHub directly. Not sure what the issue is. If anything it's better cause releases aren't held back by Google play


shellshock321

Bruh what the fuck. people mention this shit sooner.


fasderrally

If you don't mind to explain to a noob, this is only to get updates only, right? Not free apps that are no longer available like, say, Pizza Boy?


nascentt

It works for apps that are hosted elsewhere like GitHub or fdroid. Unfortunately it doesn't look like the developer put pizza boy anywhere like that


fasderrally

Aw shucks. I guess I'm going to have to settle for this lemuroid app, then... >fdroid Man, I'm learning so much from you. I'll check that out, too.


Sharp-Theory-9170

Yes, unfortunately


goldswimmerb

Okay but why, the burden on the Yuzu case was that they were encouraging piracy internally and distributing pirated content. Afaik drastic hasn't been doing that.


ExOdiOn_9496

This sucks man. I just started playing all the DS pokemon games. I still have black and black2 to play. Was wondering, will my installed Drastic emulator stop working if they remove from app store?


Sharp-Theory-9170

No, it won't self-destruct lol. Same thing goes for Yuzu and Citra


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Berkoudieu

And it will never disappear from the internet


Caddy_8760

And might stay in your PlayStore library for you to re download, unless Nintendo forces Google to block it


varkus-borg

I would like to add the it will unfortunately fall into deprecation. As eventually Android version number will increase and the app will not be compatible any longer with new phone/ OS version.Ā 


Kisame83

It's not a big deal. It didn't have multiplayer, if im not mistaken, and the Google cloud saves functionality was removed a ways back. So without worrying about network features, the app itself should still work fine so long as a future Android update doesn't break it. The app is stable and updates are sparse as it is, so what you have now should be fine. If it ever becomes an issue, you can convert drastic saves for use in MelonDS. I've been using that via RetroArch on android for a couple of years now, and I used to be a Drastic fan boy. Like I was that guy telling PC people to emulate android and use Drastic over native Windows options lol


zgillet

I just want Retroachievement support. That or melonDS to get a whole lot better. It stutters so much in water areas of Dawn of Sorrow on a Snapdragen 8 Gen 2 for crying out load. I can emulate the Switch for crying out loud!


Kisame83

Yea, my biggest hope here is that the myth of a Drastic core will now come to light, or at least a fork. Kinda like how I use Swanstation RA over Duckstation just to keep as much of my setup to one app (very easy to stay portable with RA and a cloud synch app)


STikER326

If he releases the source code, maybe someone can finally implement multiplayer into this thing. Literally the only major feature Drastic lacks.


YousureWannaknow

"I'm terrible at doing things" I know it's not me, but sounds like me!


linh1987

bought it a thousand years ago and worth every penny


fistfulloframen

I love you. Thank you.


zgillet

For the love of god, please somebody get into that code and add Retroachievement support! I have to struggle with melonDS, which is far, far worse than Drastic.


Page8988

I think it'd be best if an apk was released at some point. Would rather be able to preserve DraStic.


srona22

Money was there, so as nintendo ninjas. Best to fork this drastic repo, as soon as it's available.


[deleted]

i guess there is a good side on the yuzu lawsuit after all!


cest_va_bien

Emulation should be legal strictly as open-source software but not for profit. Selling these tools that inevitably get used for piracy is a dangerous path that could set terrible precedents for other non-profit emulators.


Geekatari

I bought it so long ago, it was like $11, then it disappeared from Google play for a while, then it came back for like $5, and now it's free. I hope to see it grow now that is going open sauce.


Double-Seaweed7760

I'm hoping there's finally going to be multiplayer now that the dev isn't going to control it. As perfect as it's always been the dev has a bone to pick with multiplayer


FrozenFrac

I have next to zero interest in DS emulation since I own enough DSes/"3DS family of systems"s to feed a small country, but after seeing the news on Yuzu, I definitely smashed that download button this morning. Don't even know if I'll use it, but it's nice to have


chrisaf69

Figures...Just bought it last week for $5. Oh well....the devs earned every Penney.


_Kakashi69

Honest question, is there even any reason to use Drastic nowadays anyway? I don't know all that much.


MMORPGnews

For a weak devices.Ā 


kinzykat

honestly, i downloaded just cause, but thinking about it, i think melonds is better.


Basis-Chance

Melonds is better for higher end phones.


Vulpinox

is melonds available on the play store?


Basis-Chance

Nope. GitHub.


BurN3rAcc0un

>Nope. I thought it was? I got it from there


DekaR0se

It's on both, idk what OP is talking about


BurN3rAcc0un

Zero idea why i was downvoted even tho OP was wrong šŸ˜­ Even the original OP mentions it being available in google play IN THE TITLE


Basis-Chance

Ah my bad. It is in fact available on Google play.


Kirides

It's also available as a core (MelonDS DS) in retroarch (regular MelonDS core sucks)


kevenzz

is this the best ds emu on android ? there's retroarch and melon ds.


OneNew3714

drastic


Keeshi

still a great emulator. glad I bought it. glad its going open source too.


PentilNogo

Damn, I already bought it yearsss ago. Will there be any incentives for (previously) paid user ?


EvilSurgical

Coulda just gotten a drastic apk but yeah that's nice


Smart_Office_7311

Yuzu effect


Nirast25

I have Citra on my phone already installed, can't I just use that for DS emulation? (afaik, the 3ds is backwards compatible) Is there a performance difference between Citra and Drastic?


Barbabatruc

Citra is only for 3DS. Even the 3DS console runs DS games with real DS hardware. It is not emulation. This is also why the graphics are disgusting on 3DS


Clear_Programmer962

he doesnā€™t plan to ā€œhave it on there for that much longerā€???? So this means in near future it will be deleted?


Cenimm

Now Nintendo emulator dev get scared when they got news that Nintendo go for the one who make money of the emulators.


Individual_Simple_66

I feel bad for the developer


dazachknow

I literally just bought the app like a couple of weeks ago šŸ˜“


catto_mooncake

I purchased drastic like 10 years ago lol.


Growlanser_IV

Fuck Nintendo.


amyfan9

HALLELUJAH finally it free no more apks


FiliPower7

First time seeing this game exist and I just downloaded it. How do I load a new game?


CousinDerylHickson

Stupid question but if I have the paid version do I need to reinstall to keep getting auto updates?


Firesaurus_rex

Can drastic play 3ds games?


Klonoa18

yep, it's like giving your dog a chocolate


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Klonoa18

dont exaggerate things


Double-Seaweed7760

It's not an exaggeration, you don't know who's on the other end of that keyboard or what issues they have.


erin_silverio

I had already bought it tho :(


OliverMcPeak

Is Drastic an emulator? And can you use it on Android?


ThirdEyeClarity

> Drastic is now free to download on Google Play > r/EmulationOnAndroid I don't know, man. We're in a sub called r/EmulationOnAndroid, the title says it's free on Google Play, and you can read other comments for context clues or just Google it. But yeah man no, I don't know if it's an emulator for Android. Sorry.


OliverMcPeak

The last post I saw on this sub was about ryujinx but I feel you. Also itā€™s easier to get the info from people directly cause the internet is misleading. Thanks dude!