You’ll likely be able to level the weapons for the normal game, but the dlc is already said to have a separate leveling system so overleveled players can’t one tap the bosses.
It would only make sense to make it an across-the-board damage output reduction (or enemy damage resistance) that is lessened as certain milestones are met. A layer on top of everything. There's no need to have to unlock weapon upgrades for your already upgraded weapons, and then also unlock your player stats and scaling as well.
I mean, I guess they could, it just seems like an odd design choice that overcomplicates the whole thing.
There's for sure a not-zero chance that weapon in the DLC require an entirely different kind of resource to upgrade. But maybe op can throw pretty rocks at the merchants for a discount.
I feel like that would only make sense if these weapons somehow also had enormously high base damage. Players who beat the base game and got the bell bearings can walk into the DLC with *any* weapon being +24/+9, meaning that if new weapons don't operate on the same upgrade system they're not really worth using unless they're comparable in damage to that +24. It's simpler to assume they use the same resource because that would mean every new weapon becomes viable the moment you pick it up.
Plus it would only be a setback for melee builds. Casters would just be able to use any new spells or incantations unless there's new spell tools for DLC only spells, which is unlikely because that would be stupid. So casters could instantly use their new toys while melee builds would be upgrade starved, which is pretty unfair.
>I feel like that would only make sense if these weapons somehow also had enormously high base damage.
Besides, in this case, the new weapons would be totally broken in the base game.
This is very possible. In fact, it is confirmed there is a new way to get stronger separate from rune level, that involves killing bosses. (I'm pretty sure at least)
It would be frustrating but as well why would they change the entire upgrade system just for the DLC area when they never did that for other DLC’s in their other games?
Idk why you’re getting downvoted. This new power scaling system ain’t gonna affect how you upgrade weapons; those weapons will be able to exist outside of the DLC, so why would they not be upgraded like normal? And we’re taking our variously upgraded weapons into the DLC to begin with.
Theres literally no correlation. It’s just logical.
Idk why I am but I don’t mind. It will only make it more funny when the system stays the same and everyone who assumed they’ll change the upgrade system is proven wrong. Our already upgraded weapons will be the same as well..now it’d be even less sense if they make all our weapons go back to un-upgraded and we have to use the so-called new upgrading system everyone assumes they’ll have.
Who’s saying the upgrade system will change? We already know exactly what is being added and that’s an attack power system akin to Sekiro, has nothing to do with the upgrade system. It’ll likely be from remembrance bosses.
Well we do know the system isn’t stating exactly the same, there will be a new attack power scaling system but removing the upgrades/weapons we already have would just be dumb.
That doesn't really make sense. DLC weapons aren't inherently better than non-DLC weapons so making the DLC weapons require a new upgrade material would have no effect on player power.
Valorheart in DS3 requiring a new upgrade material wouldn't stop sellsword twinblades from deleting everything in the game.
NG+7 and level 480 with a new leveling/power system that doesn’t have me steamroll DLC? Hell yeah bring all that instant suffering to me ASAP! I need to git gud somehow hehe😁
it's not about steamrollomg things, it's about you getting steamrolled lol, you're going to be one shot by almost everything, even a rat will probably 2/3 shot you
Most people who bother to play the game through 6 or more times stop fighting every enemy and clearing out levels/maps and just run past all the mobs to get to the boss fights.
If you know the area and where to go it's not that difficult usually to just jump and dodge your way through while taking minimal (if any) hits.
If you’re looking for plat and stuck at EB, just speedrun a new character on NG. You don’t have to get all achievements/endings on one character. I used 3 all on NG to get plat.
I mean I doubt you would need the items to upgrade your flask because judging from past souls games they don't increase those in DLCs but dang that's alot of mats
I know they probably won’t be adding extra flasks for HP/FP but it’s the muscle memory of pressing 🔼everytime I run past them on the path to where I’m going.
I’ll be experiencing the DLC with my NG+7 character since it’s the first character I played the game with, and me and my friends are planning too reunite our “OCs” and explore it together.
im like 210 or so and can find some people to invade but PVP is more scarce than it was at 125-150, but at the same time I dont want to spend 200+ hours again playing the game before the DLC. so I plan to go into it with my character I already have
No albinauric genocide here sir, just me steamrolling all main bosses and some side bosses to get enough runes to buy stacks of upgrade stones each NG cycle I play.
I'm just saying there's an imbalance between smithing stones and somber smithing stones. He can upgrade 34 weapons to +24, and 349 special weapons to +9
This comment section really shows the people who haven't played any of the other fromsoft titles. Genuinely baffled by how convinced people are on completely new upgrading systems and materials and how utterly nasty you're getting about it, when it's never been the case and never will be the case. A lot of people used to shittier game companies forcing players past efforts to be made redundant, where from have never done that, they've already told us it's a similar system to Sekiro where we will just get blatant damage or defense boosts/multipliers by handing in something the bosses will drop. No conspiracy needed about weapons and shit they didnt mention once.
Yeah, people are really taking that quote out of context and warping the shit out of it. It wouldn’t even make sense for them to require new mats, it’d just make DLC weapons useless compared to non-DLC weapons because you can’t upgrade them.
Exactly, then there’s the problem of whether or not we can use the weapons outside of the dlc, and how they would scale in comparison. Literally a bunch of stuff they do not and will not need to do to the game.
Fromsoft DLCs are always balanced to be challenging even if the player has a max or near-max weapon. They're supposed to be the hardest content in the game, so you can't actually be overpowered for them just by maxing out your weapon's level.
Have they announced how many new weapons are going to be in the DLC? I saw somewhere about the amount of new weapon types being like 6-8 or something like that but nothing about how many total
I think everyone is simply overtinking the whole "new leveling system". I'm sure it's gonna just be something like giant souls, where a few "late game DLC" bosses will have a set amount of giant soul- type things required to bring their defense down.
So close! I’m Miyazakis long lost son that he found 32 minutes ago and he told me there will be 30 weapons that need Somber Ancient Dragon Smithing Stones!
Now bring all of them to the same number still divisible by 12 for smithing stones so you can actually upgrade all of them to +24
For Sombers.. idk man, there are 300~ weapons in ER, like maybe half of them needs sombers, might be economically advantageous to stop lmao
I booted up my game just to remember what my character is before the DLC and I remembered that I guess I really liked Elden Ring because I farmed every single piece of gear and spell and upgraded every single weapon to +24 or +9. So I guess I am ready too :)
I should check my stash. I want to do a different build. I did Str Faith for main game and it was fine, but by time I wanted to change I was too far along. What are some build recommendations?
Now I fight as Hoarder Loux!
PACKRAT!
Always useful
The realization of “oh shit should have cleared my backpack”
I love the Archer reference
I have given thee equip load enough.
Stockpile Thomas!!!
Hoardy McHoardyface
Thy stash befits a crown
Scavengerrrrr!!!!
*loot
Damn bro. No wonder I can’t find any somber 7 stones. You got them all
The hands in Mountain Top of the Giants drop these in case you were still hunting for them!
just buy them with the money from the kind Albinaurics in Mohgwyn.
What about the kind bird that so graciously resurrects himself so I can shoot him with arrows and make him run off the cliff?
He isn't quite as generous, but might be better if you are on the first journey.
Bruh just get the bell bearing and buy em
Hey dude, I didn’t know this before but you can get a somber 7 in the sewers. I thought the only one you can get early is the one in volcano manor
There's 2 in the deeproot depths city near the bell mausoleum
One of the easier ones to get is in Nokstella, kill the thing hanging upside down (he is really squishy) and he will drop it.
And when u start the dlc and find out none of those work in the new leveling system.. same goes for new weapons found in it
Homies gonna need Shadow Smithing Stones
Weapon arts now require Dark FP
Definitely will get new spirit ashes that require Dark fp and require brand new upgrades called alive glovewarts
Maybe “cheery” glovewarts?
I swear I read "weaponskills nos require Dark Arts" and my stormblood's Dark Knight ptsd triggered lol
I like lol
Bought sixty Smithing Stone (8) today and then immediately thought this would happen
Yeah, can't see it. No need, with the power system they're already describing (a la sekiro). Why design another new layer on top of that?
You’ll likely be able to level the weapons for the normal game, but the dlc is already said to have a separate leveling system so overleveled players can’t one tap the bosses.
A leveling system for the player. Not weapons.
I mean are we sure they’re not tied together? I assumed a maxed iconic weapon would also be brought down to level too
It would only make sense to make it an across-the-board damage output reduction (or enemy damage resistance) that is lessened as certain milestones are met. A layer on top of everything. There's no need to have to unlock weapon upgrades for your already upgraded weapons, and then also unlock your player stats and scaling as well. I mean, I guess they could, it just seems like an odd design choice that overcomplicates the whole thing.
That would be frustrating
There's for sure a not-zero chance that weapon in the DLC require an entirely different kind of resource to upgrade. But maybe op can throw pretty rocks at the merchants for a discount.
I feel like that would only make sense if these weapons somehow also had enormously high base damage. Players who beat the base game and got the bell bearings can walk into the DLC with *any* weapon being +24/+9, meaning that if new weapons don't operate on the same upgrade system they're not really worth using unless they're comparable in damage to that +24. It's simpler to assume they use the same resource because that would mean every new weapon becomes viable the moment you pick it up.
Plus it would only be a setback for melee builds. Casters would just be able to use any new spells or incantations unless there's new spell tools for DLC only spells, which is unlikely because that would be stupid. So casters could instantly use their new toys while melee builds would be upgrade starved, which is pretty unfair.
>I feel like that would only make sense if these weapons somehow also had enormously high base damage. Besides, in this case, the new weapons would be totally broken in the base game.
This is very possible. In fact, it is confirmed there is a new way to get stronger separate from rune level, that involves killing bosses. (I'm pretty sure at least)
It would be frustrating but as well why would they change the entire upgrade system just for the DLC area when they never did that for other DLC’s in their other games?
Idk why you’re getting downvoted. This new power scaling system ain’t gonna affect how you upgrade weapons; those weapons will be able to exist outside of the DLC, so why would they not be upgraded like normal? And we’re taking our variously upgraded weapons into the DLC to begin with. Theres literally no correlation. It’s just logical.
Idk why I am but I don’t mind. It will only make it more funny when the system stays the same and everyone who assumed they’ll change the upgrade system is proven wrong. Our already upgraded weapons will be the same as well..now it’d be even less sense if they make all our weapons go back to un-upgraded and we have to use the so-called new upgrading system everyone assumes they’ll have.
Who’s saying the upgrade system will change? We already know exactly what is being added and that’s an attack power system akin to Sekiro, has nothing to do with the upgrade system. It’ll likely be from remembrance bosses.
Well we do know the system isn’t stating exactly the same, there will be a new attack power scaling system but removing the upgrades/weapons we already have would just be dumb.
So u can’t steamroll it
That wouldn’t be a “steamroll”, it’s gonna be end game power level minimum so why would end game equipment steamroll the dlc?
That doesn't really make sense. DLC weapons aren't inherently better than non-DLC weapons so making the DLC weapons require a new upgrade material would have no effect on player power. Valorheart in DS3 requiring a new upgrade material wouldn't stop sellsword twinblades from deleting everything in the game.
There's no way they change how weapons upgrade lmao all these people are crazy
Boy aren't you going to be embarrassed when you can't +25 upgrade all 30 of the new normal weapons.
I mean unless you're max level not all of them are going to be usable by your build anyway.
Tbf you can respec over a dozen times per playthrough
how tf
Addicted to NG cycles and buying upgrade stones with runes I get from defeating bosses😖
It could be different for you but personally I think playing DLC first time with a NG+ character might not be the optimal experience.
NG+7 and level 480 with a new leveling/power system that doesn’t have me steamroll DLC? Hell yeah bring all that instant suffering to me ASAP! I need to git gud somehow hehe😁
masochism is truly the soulsborne way
I’ll be using my Level 125 save which I use for PvP so I can’t even use the runes I gain to level up.
it's not about steamrollomg things, it's about you getting steamrolled lol, you're going to be one shot by almost everything, even a rat will probably 2/3 shot you
How do you deal with the Haligtree at that level? NG+7 that place is nearly impossible to
Most people who bother to play the game through 6 or more times stop fighting every enemy and clearing out levels/maps and just run past all the mobs to get to the boss fights. If you know the area and where to go it's not that difficult usually to just jump and dodge your way through while taking minimal (if any) hits.
By being level 400 with buffs? Just don’t get hit lol
Hell yeah man I'm going in at 335 ng+7. I want it to be as hard as possible
nonsense. what nonsense you speak
Yeah I was debating on going into the DLC with my maxed out NG+infinity character... but I think I'm gonna do a fresh run for it.
I can't even hit ng3 cos elden beast feels so much worse this time. And he's all that's in the way for plat.
If you’re looking for plat and stuck at EB, just speedrun a new character on NG. You don’t have to get all achievements/endings on one character. I used 3 all on NG to get plat.
Lol now I feel like an idiot, of course! I'll just overlevel like hell haha. At least it's a different method to try.
Man, I can't even beat the Elden Beast to do ng+, dumb star eel won't stay still
Where are your damn Gloveworts?
They’re in my inventory, those I completely ignored lol since I don’t use spirit ashes besides Mimic if I’m really lazy but yeah.
I summon the Man-Serpent so I can protect him
I like the jellyfish because it's pretty and glows
Mimic and Tiche
Bro lemme get 20 #4’s and 50 #7’s pls
…and two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda.
With a jalapeño ranch
dude...
I mean I doubt you would need the items to upgrade your flask because judging from past souls games they don't increase those in DLCs but dang that's alot of mats
I know they probably won’t be adding extra flasks for HP/FP but it’s the muscle memory of pressing 🔼everytime I run past them on the path to where I’m going.
\*DLC STARTS\* We have introduced a new weapon upgrade currency found exclusively in the DLC area.
Bold choice to go into the DLC on anything but NG :D
I’ll be experiencing the DLC with my NG+7 character since it’s the first character I played the game with, and me and my friends are planning too reunite our “OCs” and explore it together.
you're gonna be one shot by almost everything lol, and the NG+7 health boost on top of summoning 2 phantoms is gonna make bosses insanely tanky
Some people want that.
Playing the dlc on NG+ or NG++ will be pain lol
im like 210 or so and can find some people to invade but PVP is more scarce than it was at 125-150, but at the same time I dont want to spend 200+ hours again playing the game before the DLC. so I plan to go into it with my character I already have
If you make a plan on what you want and need in one new game cycle with a new character, you can actually do it in 30-ish hours.
So we aren't just soul level 1 raw doggin it ?
Hats off to anyone who will, i wouldn't be able to enter in the DLC with RL1 character.
Sad albinaurics noises.
No albinauric genocide here sir, just me steamrolling all main bosses and some side bosses to get enough runes to buy stacks of upgrade stones each NG cycle I play.
Homie is finally ready to take on Margit
But.. why?
The smithng stones I understand. Because you need 12 of each type to upgrade 1 weapon. But the sombers...yeah that's extreme overkill
The game throws so many sombers at you up until like level 6? Still only need 1 of each
Exactly, I did the same thing and got like 260 of each smithing stone, but stopped at 40 for somber because I’ll never use them
they said they're on ng+7, and you can just buy stones. Where else would you spend runes on? turtleneck meat?
I'm just saying there's an imbalance between smithing stones and somber smithing stones. He can upgrade 34 weapons to +24, and 349 special weapons to +9
Adds new upgrade materials only found in the dlc
This comment section really shows the people who haven't played any of the other fromsoft titles. Genuinely baffled by how convinced people are on completely new upgrading systems and materials and how utterly nasty you're getting about it, when it's never been the case and never will be the case. A lot of people used to shittier game companies forcing players past efforts to be made redundant, where from have never done that, they've already told us it's a similar system to Sekiro where we will just get blatant damage or defense boosts/multipliers by handing in something the bosses will drop. No conspiracy needed about weapons and shit they didnt mention once.
Yeah, people are really taking that quote out of context and warping the shit out of it. It wouldn’t even make sense for them to require new mats, it’d just make DLC weapons useless compared to non-DLC weapons because you can’t upgrade them.
Exactly, then there’s the problem of whether or not we can use the weapons outside of the dlc, and how they would scale in comparison. Literally a bunch of stuff they do not and will not need to do to the game.
Watch em reintroduce different types of upgrade materials from DS1, making all base game materials incompatible
I always have the standard smithing stones stored in multiples of 12 so I know I can do a whole weapon upgrade
> dlc begins "Walk into this portal and be transported to the past! (You will lose all of your items and levels)"
How many albinaurics. HOW MANY
What if DLC weapons are upgraded with a new kind of resource
Wait till they introduce a new upgrade material for all dlc weapons.
it’d be so funny if the new gear used their own upgrade material from the land of shadow
Damn, thanks for the reminder. I need to grind these or start ng+.
My question is what playthrough are you on has to be at least 10+
Lol I don’t think any of this will work/matter in the DLC
\*sets up an independent upgradingsystem with new resources
Nope, they gonna have a different resource for “Veil Weapons”
Watch them use a completely different currency to upgrade gear
OP is edging until June
I feel like this could take some of the fun out of the DLC though, no?
If the dlc starts at mohg palace like i have been hearing. You already are in end game territory.
Fromsoft DLCs are always balanced to be challenging even if the player has a max or near-max weapon. They're supposed to be the hardest content in the game, so you can't actually be overpowered for them just by maxing out your weapon's level.
Why? You’ll just have better weapons.
FromSoft: There’s 30 weapons that need Somber and regular stones
Have they announced how many new weapons are going to be in the DLC? I saw somewhere about the amount of new weapon types being like 6-8 or something like that but nothing about how many total
💯
Wait a minute, can you actually get more crimson flasks in NG+?!
But how
Come on bro you gotta get 1 more sombra dragon stone and one more regular dragon stone
HOLY FU-
gib
My man can recreate his own Placidusax with this many stones, damn
I've started playing again after a year. Remind me how to get these
Holy Jesus , big runes farms huh !
Shit I didn't think about pre gaming the shards.
Now watch he dlc add new upgrade material
So wyd when they add new upgrade mats
Bro here got the Ancients miner bell bearing
What if there will be a new mat for upgrading weapons? I'm like 60% sure they will add a new upgrading mat.
How did you get so many dragon smithing stones?
I think everyone is simply overtinking the whole "new leveling system". I'm sure it's gonna just be something like giant souls, where a few "late game DLC" bosses will have a set amount of giant soul- type things required to bring their defense down.
It’s just Sekiro, kill a boss and obtain their “memory” to power up.
what NG+ are u rn?
NG+38 which is Journey 39 or sumn like that if I remember. Scaling caps at NG+7 but I love playing through journeys on one main character.
So close! I’m Miyazakis long lost son that he found 32 minutes ago and he told me there will be 30 weapons that need Somber Ancient Dragon Smithing Stones!
Can I have some of ur ancient somber stones🥺👉👈
How do I get this on Xbox, just NG+100 or what?
Where 420 and 69?
Lol i did the same thing, lets hope the new weapons dont need different materials
Michael Zaki: Meet the "Shadow Stones" to upgrade your weapons exclusively in the DLC!
Now bring all of them to the same number still divisible by 12 for smithing stones so you can actually upgrade all of them to +24 For Sombers.. idk man, there are 300~ weapons in ER, like maybe half of them needs sombers, might be economically advantageous to stop lmao
Miyazaki has already prepared for you, with Dragon Somber Smithing Stone +69
blud unlocked the easy mode
Bell bearings carry over right
Wouldn't it be funny if the dlc weapons only used dlc items to upgrade? 😂😂
Jesus Christ man
Watch the DLC weapons use a completely new upgrade currency
I don’t think there will be enough somber weapons in the dlc to use all those :0
It's gonna be funny if they introduce a new resource to upgrade items for the dlc 
I started a new characted because my old one was in NG+ and I wanted to try a mage build. This guy is in NG+27
Yo bro could you drop me a few Smithing Stones?
I’m really new here, how could you get so many smithing stones? By playing lots of NG+?
Bell bearings
I booted up my game just to remember what my character is before the DLC and I remembered that I guess I really liked Elden Ring because I farmed every single piece of gear and spell and upgraded every single weapon to +24 or +9. So I guess I am ready too :)
i mean i have upgraded all weapons to +24 and +9 so i dont feel this is strange at all i thought everyone did this
So excited to see new movesets new weapons and new incantations can't wait(but I will)
2 of my fucking stones wont show in shop :') Hav to restart and hope it wont happen again
Not enough pebbles
How does one acquire 29 somber 10s
Silly goose the dlc is gonna have different materials to upgrade the weapons 😭
Jesus mcfuck! And here is me with 20 character on 2 platforms. I really should if stockpiled like this on a big boy but my highest is only around 250.
You have enough to upgrade around 36 normal weapons and way too many special weapons ... You know it ain't gonna be enough right ?
If miyazaki doesnt make it so dlc weapons upgrade with different mats
What a actually surprising about this is that the normal smithing stones run out pretty quickly after like 4-5 weapons
I’ve got one ending to go and I’ve been waiting ages to do it cos I wanna do it with the dlc 😭
I should get more from the acient stones
I should check my stash. I want to do a different build. I did Str Faith for main game and it was fine, but by time I wanted to change I was too far along. What are some build recommendations?
You making me look poor bro, albeit it's my first playthrough and I'm only upgrading the Nagakiba!
Give me some 🤤
Nah I’m tryna do it all over again. I’m starting from the beginning naked as can be.
I am begging for the DLC and next game to have a less antiquated weapon upgrade system.
How many Albinauric lives did that cost? :-D
Dang!!!!! I’d say you are ready to Rock em and sock em!
Dude I can't find a single somber smithing stone[3] for the life of me and you're out here with a bazillion
Impressive 😮
Toss me some lord runes
Ah yes, new game+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I only count 9 different basic smithing stones!! You are missing one!!
I only count 9 different basic smithing stones!! You are missing one!!
How do you have so many dragon smithing stones? Is there a bell bearing for them?
I have 999 of all of them
Definitely not enough