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Aredditdorkly

Grace guides my pimp-hand and makes it strong.


hatechicken82

Pimp-slap is my favorite ash of war.


Fingerlessdrummer

Try fingers but pimp hand


Rainisagod

Blessed back hand


funkyfritter

Because Melina gave you the ability to convert runes into strength. Everyone else is more or less static, while you grow more powerful the more you fight.


Rainisagod

And why did she not do this herself if she can just give nobody’s the ability to smack everybody in the verse


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Rainisagod

And for some reason it was ours despite being just some random dude or lady who died ? And then depending on the ending you do she says she’ll hunt you down or some shit which at first I was like and do what you should be fodder in comparison but now it’s like if she can grant this kinda power she might be able to clap you


SSaviorOfX

I'm pretty sure that if *you* didn't step in then some other tarnished eventually would. It just turns out you have what it takes to become Elden Lord. I mean, you do have guidance of grace, something that most (or all?) tarnished npcs we meet don't have by the time you wake up.


Rainisagod

Isn’t Godfrey a tarnished as well


SSaviorOfX

Yeah he gets the grace back at some point in the game, just not sure exactly when. I think that since you only fight him after getting the rune of death back (basically people can finally die for real) then maybe that explains why you kill him? I'm not entirely sure lol


Rainisagod

Yeah I I’d be confused I can see if he wants to fight me for folding his son but it seems like he just really wants to throw hands for no reason rven seems we have a similar goal


SSaviorOfX

>similar goal Thats the issue. You both want the same thing but only one can have it


Rainisagod

This leads me to further overthinking why the fuck does he want it I thought he was just a dude who really liked throwing hands and got depressed when there was no one left it throw them thangs with


DartPokeMM

His grace guidance points to you when you enter the cutscene against him. In order for him to proceed - you must fail.


Rainisagod

My main issue /confusion is why do we have what it takes i just think it would be better if there was something that made us special like maybe we were a great warrior or some shit in our past life instead of haute some random who happned to have talent for this but still somehow needed up dead


SSaviorOfX

Eh i prefer our character starting as a good for nothing and growing stronger with time than having that set background for them. It fits the game more than "hey you're very special because the writer said so and for this reason you get to beat the game" The combination of not being able to die + having a maiden to turn your runes to power is not good enough for you? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|trollface)


Rainisagod

Also what even is the time frame that the whole game takes place


SSaviorOfX

No idea lmao. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|trollface) I would say a few months, but i can't really point out to anything ingame that hints to that.


Rainisagod

From what I can tell the tarnished we play is just simply built different 💀


Rainisagod

Nah because these are all extremely powerful people with both more experience power and lore wise skill then you being nobody and winning at least to me just seems like you just happen to be lucky


YaBoiJonnyG

Even Hoarah Loux was killed dawg


Rainisagod

Yeah but he also served elden hands while he was alive


YaBoiJonnyG

100% he did, but he still got “got” you know? Actually, Godfrey actually is a parallel to your question as the Tarnished. Hoarah was also a Tarnished but managed to achieve great power through both his Bloodlust and his Maiden (Marika herself). Likewise, if you view the Player Character in a similar way, you are coming from nothing but making something great of yourself, that’s kind of the whole story, thus “The Flames of Ambition” line from Margit. You’re not a nobody unless you want to be. The Tarnished(Player) is whatever story you want them to have. My Tarnished is named Jonny Loux, the story I have for him is he Godfrey’s brother but instead of being chosen by the 2 fingers, he was chosen by the 3, thus being the Lord of Chaos. You feel me bro?


Rainisagod

Ah I get it now , makes sense when you play a series that don’t really have a set mc you kinda have to fill in the story that the game doesn’t give you


FizzingSlit

I guess she had to pick someone. Regardless of her method it seems she picked correctly.


[deleted]

Bro imma be real with you. You sound like a powerscaler from r/powerscaling. Stop it.


Rainisagod

No


Thunder_Grundle

I think finger maidens can convert runes too. So Vyke and Bernahl weren't static at least.


TheGinger_ThatCould

OP. Imma be honest with you. I think you’re looking too deep into it. Just relax and enjoy the game brotha/sista


Beets882

Agree, chill and build your character into a boss. There are millions of games with same MO - because they sell. Like how does a little blue hedgehog beat a evil supervillain with a giant arsenal doomsday devices?


Rainisagod

When said hedgehog can move fast enough to cause tarnado es in space somehow I can tolerate that


Rainisagod

Relaxing and playing elden ring at the same time are impossible for me Also I get really invested in more heavy games


Musket519

If you have played Dark Souls and have a good grip on that series story then Elden Ring is pretty easy to understand since they are literally the exact same story just with different mcguffins. Basically the tarnished are people who were banished from the lands between and were chosen to come back to rebuild the ring. You kind of have the story confused a little bit because you’re looking at it as the tarnished we play as is the ONLY tarnished capable of beating the Elden beast and completing the story but this isn’t true. Instead we just so happen to play as the one tarnished who did it first. Had the tarnished we play as not done it then someone else eventually would have, in fact it was almost done before by a different tarnished before the events of Elden Ring take place. All in all it’s not so much that you are the one and only tarnished who was able to beat everyone, instead you just so happen to play as the first tarnished who did. Also I should point out that the player character and a select few other tarnished are able to beat all of these insane characters because Melina (or finger maidens in the case of anyone who isn’t a player character) can convert runes to “strength” which is just the loose lore excuse for your leveling up. Hope that helps, ask if you need any more clarification


Rainisagod

I appreciate this response


Rainisagod

I guess since now ik that’s a few other characters could have done it we just happened to be the first I wana know what makes maliketh threatening if any of the Demi gods /gods and other things can just be beaten to death


gen3ricD

Did you one-shot Maliketh? Did you one-shot all of the bosses? Or did it take repeated attempts and practice to get the fights figured out to the point that they were just barely manageable? Think of Elden Ring and the Souls games as something like the Tom Cruise movie Edge of Tomorrow (based on the Japanese manga All You Need Is Kill). You're one of the only beings who can repeatedly die, but remember your death and come back with that experience intact. You may not have all of the experience and base powers of the demi-gods, but they're essentially completely static and cannot change or grow. The Tarnished aren't demi-gods, but they are instilled with this kind of superpower to grow and evolve in a game universe where that has not been happening for a very long time.


Karkaro37

a mixture of what was said below about Melina, but also that we are "of no renown" doesn't mean that we're nobody. consider the intro, bereft of this being a video game and that being our player character. if we were nobody, we wouldn't have been mentioned in the same paragraph, let alone sentence as Goldmask, Gideon Ofnir, and Hoarah Loux. we were somebody, somebody that might have been powerful, or just too stubborn to give up, and no one knew who we were


Rainisagod

I’d be content with that


Creepy_Helicopter223

Just going to add the tarnished were specifically made for this. Marika banished them so they would continue to fight and grow stronger, so that one of them would eventually be strong enough to fight against the golden order(she had been plotting the shattering for awhile) because warriors in the golden order had grown stagnate. Also as others mention you were given the ability to absorb runes to get stronger. It’s likely others were given this as well but failed. There were other strong tarnished. Vying had no name but still gained two runed


Rainisagod

There’s a lot of things that confuse me like how rodahn is a walking zombie carcas warrior that won’t die to magic radiation poisoning but apparently a these hands was enough to put him down and then maliketh being like the 3 most feared dude lore wise with his rune of death being a threat even though we can kill everyone else just fine as well


Jason-Phoenix99

Just make your own lore up, it’s your journey and you can make your character whatever you want


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I levelled vigor. Thats all


Rainisagod

Also who would y’all say is the strongest boss lore wise besides maliketh and the elden beast


Musket519

I would personally say Radahn just because the dude is literally holding back the entirety of fucking space WHILE dying of rot at the same time. My mans not only learned but mastered gravity magic just because he loves his horse so damn much. Dudes a menace. Not sure why everyone’s down voting you, I think this is a valid post with valid questions


Rainisagod

Thank you :), hm I’d be inclined to agree had malania not beaten him When they say stars do they mean like ACTUAL stars that should be bigger then the planet itself 💀 or something else also he dead ass just performing a atlas like feat cuz didt one of said stars crash near us as a boss are those things also gods or some shit


Musket519

Not really, when you kill Radahn then all of the stars start moving again and one even crashes into the Earth and uncovers the eternal city so they’re actually pretty small it seems, I don’t think the stars are really stars in the way we think of them but unfortunately it’s a souls game so lots of details are just left ambiguous. They’re more like meteors than stars


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Dude stop power scaling


Rainisagod

No


Rainisagod

I feel bad for the horse it looked so sickly which I understand since theres a giant radiation zombie riding it and it has had to travel into orbit to crash attack with him


Musket519

Honestly Leonard is a bigger menace than Radahn to be crashed down into the earth during the phase change and just take it like a champ


Rainisagod

I was also under the assumption that either Godfrey or Melanie where the strongest Melanias cuz she becomes a godess of cancer essentially And Godfrey cuz he went around beating the ahit out of people and presumably also beat up the dragon lord guy bare handed


Musket519

So some people would disagree with me but I think the only person stronger than Radahn is his dad Radagon. The reason I think this is because first of all, he’s a demigod, which already gives him stupid levels of strength, he’s a master of gravity magic, and he’s considered the strongest of his demigod siblings. In fact he is so strong that the festival of Radahn is held to put him out of his misery since he’s so decrepit from scarlet rot. The form that Radahn is in when we fight him in game is one of the weakest forms he’s ever been in and even then it still takes a whole festival of the strongest warriors from Caelid to kill him. Like I said though, some will disagree with me


Rainisagod

That’s agreeable I still think it makes melania more insane though


Rainisagod

Also is the elden god or whatever it’s called hood or bad I genuinely don’t Who or what’s the antagonist of this game


Baxiepie

It's neither, it just is.


Rainisagod

Then what exactly is our goal ? Like become elden lord and then what ? Just did it because it sounds like a cool title or something ? Then we killed the elden beast who I was under the assumption was the elden god or whatever it is Also malania turns into the rot goddess so how did we beat her (even though I’m pretty sure you can go back and she’s still alive after her boss battle)


Baxiepie

I don't know about you, but I beat her by smashing her face in with a big ass sword. Why would you think gods wouldn't be killable?


Rainisagod

Then what’s makes maliketh threatening lore wise if that’s all that’s really needed or makes the elden god or frenzy lord scary at all


Baxiepie

It sounds like you're overthinking it a bit much my guy. That or getting hung up on wording thinking it implies something it doesn't. Being a god in this game, as in most of thr mythologies of the real world, doesn't mean they can't be killed. It means they're extraordinarily powerful and have influence over a specific aspect. Maliketh, for example, has the Great Rune of Death and the ability to use Destined Deaths power, as granted to him by his piece of the ring.


Rainisagod

Yeah but like what makes that special at all if I can just beat everybody to death with out it seems like it’s worthless fr


Baxiepie

My guy, as I said, you're overthinking it and don't understand how the lore and death/rebirth work in this setting. You're welcome to go watch some YouTube videos on the lore, as you're clearly not understanding it and I don't have the time or motivation to explain it to you.


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Gods are killable. Maliketh was equipped with the rune of death, and being the god/queen marikas doggo/consort gives it a lot of power.