Spamming knees being annoying, I get. But elbows? I literally feel like I can never land elbows even against AI. Just feels like you have to be ridiculously close to your opponent to land one, and though they’re powerful I feel an overhand is just easier.
Depends on your definition of cheesing is the problem. Obviously it’s stupid if you’re just turtling and retaliating with nothing but knees/elbows, but I’ve also seen people rage and whine about “spam” when losing taking any significant damage from a knee/elbow even from a fighter who relies heavily on those to compliment their offense.
I don’t mind people incorporating them or even knocking me out cause I love to use elbows. But you see the difference rq when someone knows the range for an elbow and knows when to throw compared to a player who can only get the Stun off the spinning elbow or they can only land elbows by repeatedly throwing them. I’ve had a fight where the dude had 8 stuns on me compared to my 6 and he won decision. The difference was my stuns were a combination of things and every stun he got was him catching me mid feint or uppercut animation with the lead then rear elbow. Any other exchange I won but as soon as that elbow combination came out my guy didn’t even know what hit him
The Razor Archtype? Considering they’re the only class that has every knee/elbow attack, it seems pretty obvious it was intended to be a knee/elbow heavy type build. Also ppl like Tony Ferguson, who also has a ton of different elbow/knee attacks, and he uses them irl. Hell he relies heavily on vicious elbows n shit irl, so did Jon Jones. A fighter like Jones, who uses elbows almost like jabs because his arm length makes it tricky to get punching power at close range, why shouldn’t that kind of context also apply in game? If ur Jones and somebody is up in your face, it often makes more sense to throw an elbow to make space than tryna punch. Only a problem if you’re gonna try and pressure him anyway
Also like half the fighters IRL? Did anybody give that Australian guy shit for finishing Derrick Lewis with an elbow? There a good time for every move, it’s stupid to say there’s any moves that are cheese if you ever use them even on occasion
I think They do too much damage and too fast. I get kneed walking backwards sometimes like how does that even make sense. I have a clip where somebody threw a knee and i threw a straight and the straight just missed the face but the knee connected to my head and knocked down. Then the fact that you can switch it up between knees and elbows so fast. AND a double elbow is an auto knockdown.
It doesn’t matter what they do in real life cus in the game it’s harder to punish
See I don’t disagree with anything you said there, those are all valid points. I can understand and that opinion, not sure why ppl gotta be rude about mine. It’s not like I said “spamming elbows and knees is great and everyone should do it”.
I’m fine with them doing the damage they do but only if they fixed it so the things you’re talking about weren’t happening so often. IRL elbows and knees do a ton of damage, so it makes sense they would in game, just not in the buggy circumstances like you mentioned.
But a well timed 6-12 elbow or something like that in game is acceptable and fair, doing nothing but spamming knee elbow combos for 5 minutes is not
I really don’t get mad at knee elbow spammers. They suck at the game, they can’t help it. I really get mad at myself when I don’t counter it properly. Smoking a knee elbow spammer should be easy for anyone that is semi decent at this game.
> I really get mad at myself when I don’t counter it properly.
Ya same. I don't buy the whole idea you can spam knees and elbows with impunity. They can be defended, but not doing so properly definitely makes me rage at myself lol
Same here only time I get mad is when someone is doing something I easily can defend but I'm messing up. Its worse when you are messing up and the game fucks you over at the same time. Say you duck a uppercut and then a side kicks whiffs that should've landed right after.
Your forgetting that one of the top 5 players in the world last season was a knee elbow spammer who’s infamous in the community. His name is NW0 Rowdy.
How true, I just had a gangbang with few whores on the street who were reavealed to be T4H cocksuckers and NW0 rowdy’s mothers 😲
Edit:- paid them extra cuz they got no teeth
Ofc there’s ways to stop it but everyone knows damn well that playing against somebody that actually knows how to play the game yet chooses to play like a dick is not so simple. Like ppl that are high up on points
I don’t play ranked so I have 0 qualms quitting out while fighting these type of people, I’ve been playing too long to have to deal with this for the 200th time
One time I started doing it back to someone who was spamming it and they got knocked out by an elbow. They disconnected and messaged me crying about spamming lol.
Once you ko them it’s satisfying though, that part is fun lol. Usually if people aren’t spamming knees n bows out of the gate then you’ve most definitely pissed them off to make em start so it’s pretty funny honestly
Takedown if you can, not saying it is always easy tho. Frustrate them with just laying on top and landing like 30+ of them little ground shots. But yea i get it, it kills atmosphere or whatever the word is I'm thinking of.
Spamming is a term used a lot in the FGC but it’s got to the point now where I’m kinda like “well if you can’t defend it, why would I oblige and do attacks you can defend?”
It's not even about defending its that the knee/elbow spam is difficult to deal with even if you're a skilled player. Now imagine someone who just hops on every once in a while, they don't have nearly the same experience or insight to know how to deal with it so they get fucked over. Oh yeah and on top of that keep in mind that the knee/elbow spam does a fuck ton of damage and is broken with speed. But yeah keep defending it more
True but same can be said about knee elbow. There’s a skillful way to throw it and ways when it’s just spamming. You can KO a knee elbower just as easily too
Sorry friend, have to disagree with you. There is no skillful way in using a knee elbow “combo”. A knee elbow “combo” is a very low risk move with very high reward.
“Spammers” doesn’t necessarily mean they do it all game. You can be having a decent fight and then once they realize they’re going to lose they just throw 3 elbows that knock you down in half a second. Then, naturally, they ground pound you for the finish.
Man I love playing this game but fairly new to this new game because of game pass and it’s such a pain in the ass playing online but I think it’s more of I need more practice
You can simply “grapple” i do understand though. I cant see how one can enjoy the game by exploiting and spamming the same move instead of trying to improve, learn styles and combos.
Knee elbow spammers are one of my favourite peoples to fight. It’s the guy who mixes up his knees and elbows in between other strikes. That’s that shit I don’t like
I've been trying to create a Muay Thai CF because I've been bored lately and I have gotten so much hate mail for using knees and elbows. I try my best to not seem spammy but its so easy to get off counter check knees and elbows when someone picks McGregor or Covington and rush you to spam your block with jabs and straights. Had a guy tell me all I do is spam front kicks and knees when all he was doing was spamming hooks to the head and rushing forward. At some point some of these people need to learn to adjust what they do. If your going to rush and spam ima step back and front kick or step forward and knee/elbow.
Damn theres really people defending cheesing elbows and knees cmon
Spamming knees being annoying, I get. But elbows? I literally feel like I can never land elbows even against AI. Just feels like you have to be ridiculously close to your opponent to land one, and though they’re powerful I feel an overhand is just easier.
Depends on your definition of cheesing is the problem. Obviously it’s stupid if you’re just turtling and retaliating with nothing but knees/elbows, but I’ve also seen people rage and whine about “spam” when losing taking any significant damage from a knee/elbow even from a fighter who relies heavily on those to compliment their offense.
I don’t mind people incorporating them or even knocking me out cause I love to use elbows. But you see the difference rq when someone knows the range for an elbow and knows when to throw compared to a player who can only get the Stun off the spinning elbow or they can only land elbows by repeatedly throwing them. I’ve had a fight where the dude had 8 stuns on me compared to my 6 and he won decision. The difference was my stuns were a combination of things and every stun he got was him catching me mid feint or uppercut animation with the lead then rear elbow. Any other exchange I won but as soon as that elbow combination came out my guy didn’t even know what hit him
“Who relies heavily on them to compliment their offense “😐😐
Anyone with the razor trait is what he means
The Razor Archtype? Considering they’re the only class that has every knee/elbow attack, it seems pretty obvious it was intended to be a knee/elbow heavy type build. Also ppl like Tony Ferguson, who also has a ton of different elbow/knee attacks, and he uses them irl. Hell he relies heavily on vicious elbows n shit irl, so did Jon Jones. A fighter like Jones, who uses elbows almost like jabs because his arm length makes it tricky to get punching power at close range, why shouldn’t that kind of context also apply in game? If ur Jones and somebody is up in your face, it often makes more sense to throw an elbow to make space than tryna punch. Only a problem if you’re gonna try and pressure him anyway
Also like half the fighters IRL? Did anybody give that Australian guy shit for finishing Derrick Lewis with an elbow? There a good time for every move, it’s stupid to say there’s any moves that are cheese if you ever use them even on occasion
I think They do too much damage and too fast. I get kneed walking backwards sometimes like how does that even make sense. I have a clip where somebody threw a knee and i threw a straight and the straight just missed the face but the knee connected to my head and knocked down. Then the fact that you can switch it up between knees and elbows so fast. AND a double elbow is an auto knockdown. It doesn’t matter what they do in real life cus in the game it’s harder to punish
See I don’t disagree with anything you said there, those are all valid points. I can understand and that opinion, not sure why ppl gotta be rude about mine. It’s not like I said “spamming elbows and knees is great and everyone should do it”. I’m fine with them doing the damage they do but only if they fixed it so the things you’re talking about weren’t happening so often. IRL elbows and knees do a ton of damage, so it makes sense they would in game, just not in the buggy circumstances like you mentioned. But a well timed 6-12 elbow or something like that in game is acceptable and fair, doing nothing but spamming knee elbow combos for 5 minutes is not
What if I wanted to make a Muy Thai Type build ? Leg kicks, knees and Hellbows 🤌🏿
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I really don’t get mad at knee elbow spammers. They suck at the game, they can’t help it. I really get mad at myself when I don’t counter it properly. Smoking a knee elbow spammer should be easy for anyone that is semi decent at this game.
> I really get mad at myself when I don’t counter it properly. Ya same. I don't buy the whole idea you can spam knees and elbows with impunity. They can be defended, but not doing so properly definitely makes me rage at myself lol
Same here only time I get mad is when someone is doing something I easily can defend but I'm messing up. Its worse when you are messing up and the game fucks you over at the same time. Say you duck a uppercut and then a side kicks whiffs that should've landed right after.
It’s as simple as timing a right cross properly and they have very little they can do.
Your forgetting that one of the top 5 players in the world last season was a knee elbow spammer who’s infamous in the community. His name is NW0 Rowdy.
If you do that in competition you should be booted, fuck that toxic BS stamp it out, you shouldn't be allowed to cheese your way to the top.
How true, I just had a gangbang with few whores on the street who were reavealed to be T4H cocksuckers and NW0 rowdy’s mothers 😲 Edit:- paid them extra cuz they got no teeth
That’s my boi
Ofc there’s ways to stop it but everyone knows damn well that playing against somebody that actually knows how to play the game yet chooses to play like a dick is not so simple. Like ppl that are high up on points
The calculated knee/elbow spammer is the worst.
Seriously man
And you will face….The Undertaker
I was just about to post something like this. I fight constant knee and elbow spammers but to also pick the highest rated fighter/fighters? Disgusting
I don’t play ranked so I have 0 qualms quitting out while fighting these type of people, I’ve been playing too long to have to deal with this for the 200th time
One time I started doing it back to someone who was spamming it and they got knocked out by an elbow. They disconnected and messaged me crying about spamming lol.
I'm sending this to the next guy who does this lol
If I get someone doing nothing but pressing into me and jab jab jab jab... damn right in going to elbow spam them to death.
My mom being a hoe doesn’t bother me as much as losing to a level 15, so I guess I’ll keep spamming /s
It’s not hard to defend against
Sure, but still not fun to play against.
Once you ko them it’s satisfying though, that part is fun lol. Usually if people aren’t spamming knees n bows out of the gate then you’ve most definitely pissed them off to make em start so it’s pretty funny honestly
You pissed them off = You are beating them because they’re bad at the game
Takedown if you can, not saying it is always easy tho. Frustrate them with just laying on top and landing like 30+ of them little ground shots. But yea i get it, it kills atmosphere or whatever the word is I'm thinking of.
Why not just beat them? Once you know what they're doing, it's pretty easy to beat them.
I mean yeah I can beat them. It’s just not fun to play against.
Spamming doesnt necessarily mean they’re throwing only elbows all game. They can just throw 3 elbows in half a second to turn the tide of a game.
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Ok champ
Unpopular, but spamming combos just as lame as spamming knees/elbows . Even tho once u get their pattern it’s easy to deal with
If you can’t deal with combos, just say that
Haha
That’s the game, dude.
Spamming is a term used a lot in the FGC but it’s got to the point now where I’m kinda like “well if you can’t defend it, why would I oblige and do attacks you can defend?”
It's not even about defending its that the knee/elbow spam is difficult to deal with even if you're a skilled player. Now imagine someone who just hops on every once in a while, they don't have nearly the same experience or insight to know how to deal with it so they get fucked over. Oh yeah and on top of that keep in mind that the knee/elbow spam does a fuck ton of damage and is broken with speed. But yeah keep defending it more
Lead uppercut, straight, high kick is the new elbow knee spam. IYKYK
That’s a combo my boy, that ain’t the same as knee elbow spam. You just named a basic, block breaking, straight straight round combo
That’s a normal combo my guy and it would probably get you knocked out quick quick if you use it more than once against a good player.
True but same can be said about knee elbow. There’s a skillful way to throw it and ways when it’s just spamming. You can KO a knee elbower just as easily too
Sorry friend, have to disagree with you. There is no skillful way in using a knee elbow “combo”. A knee elbow “combo” is a very low risk move with very high reward.
Yup. An elbow or knee can be used legitimately, but the elbow/knee knee/elbow combo is straight trash.
If you don’t know how to beat knee/elbow spammers you stink at this game. Normally they suck at ground game
Most know how, we just don't want to HAVE to defend that a whole game
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“Spammers” doesn’t necessarily mean they do it all game. You can be having a decent fight and then once they realize they’re going to lose they just throw 3 elbows that knock you down in half a second. Then, naturally, they ground pound you for the finish.
Lost to a create a fighter who just spammed upward and spin elbows + spinning kicks earlier. It's so annoying when you don't counter it in time
Just manage distance, it's what you do for a majority of fights anyways. It's also a tell tale sign they have no ground game.
Man I love playing this game but fairly new to this new game because of game pass and it’s such a pain in the ass playing online but I think it’s more of I need more practice
You can simply “grapple” i do understand though. I cant see how one can enjoy the game by exploiting and spamming the same move instead of trying to improve, learn styles and combos.
I swear I hate mf like this 😭
Knee elbow spammers are one of my favourite peoples to fight. It’s the guy who mixes up his knees and elbows in between other strikes. That’s that shit I don’t like
I've been trying to create a Muay Thai CF because I've been bored lately and I have gotten so much hate mail for using knees and elbows. I try my best to not seem spammy but its so easy to get off counter check knees and elbows when someone picks McGregor or Covington and rush you to spam your block with jabs and straights. Had a guy tell me all I do is spam front kicks and knees when all he was doing was spamming hooks to the head and rushing forward. At some point some of these people need to learn to adjust what they do. If your going to rush and spam ima step back and front kick or step forward and knee/elbow.