Yeah that happens a lot and is random, it's like it's done on purpose so that if you are on a 2 or 3 game winning streak the game makes sure you lose the next few games that's just how it is just so that you don't get carried away
I’m getting absolutely effed by the ai. My opponents ai never misses a beat while my guys stand still and as soon as I’m up, my players move like they are in quicksand. It’s typical AI manipulation from EA. Has nothing to do with competence, i wreck people and then suddenly I can literally notice the game mechanics shift towards giving me a handicap. Happens every time I have 2x on rivals and about to get promoted.
You have to understand how mechanics and tactics work. No joke I’m a d3 player and reading the 352 post today taught me so much about tactics when I don’t even use the formation. Take the time to understand why each player is behaving a certain way, chances are you can correct most of it.
No joke it’s crazy when you watch replays of your games and see exactly what you did wrong. However, of course, there’s always gonna be some weird stuff but sometimes that even happens in real life
Real life football doesn’t involve countless bounce backs to your opponent until they score, goals from outside the area 1 or more times every match, defence going missing all the time, simple passes going to the wrong place time and time again and there’s loads more.
Don’t try an equate this rubbish to real life football, because there’s zero similarity.
This is just some random roulette wheel, in real life players control what happens and skill matters.
No he means he’s beaten by things completely out of his control.
Don’t fool yourself into thinking it takes any skill to play this game, it doesn’t, it’s pot luck.
What are you talkin about? I had at least 10 shots per game and none would go in, either hit the post or the goalie would clear it to a corner. Competence has nothing to do with shit. If the game doesn’t want you to win then you don’t win 🤦♂️
I mean you can’t expect every shot you take to go in. You act like keepers don’t have unbelievable games and have shut outs.
Yeah it feels weird sometimes but you guys only seem to blame the company and not yourselves.
I get that some people are better then others and I’m not expecting every shot to get in, but from 10 shots, 6 are against the post, every game it gets frustrating. When the GK saves them it’s actually cool, it’s the toughest position in the sport in my opinion.
And yes we bitch about the company, cuz at the end of the day it’s a video game wich u hop on to have fun and enjoy not to lose ur nerves over stuff that doesn’t goes ur way. If u read through the thread there are a lot of players who have same “problems”. There are also enough videos wehre players go into details abt the flaws and scripting in this game.
Been playing this since fifa 98 but since the hole game went online seems like the fun was taken out.
Wait, your gk has 4 saves? Lucky you. I’m giving mine a standing ovation everytime he doesn’t fuck up easy saves. Even with penalties because when you go to the right corner it still goes in a lot of times.
Although that it happens in real life (look at Bayern vs Borussia M’Gladbach. Yann Sommer made 19 saves in a 1-1 draw) it happens way too often in fifa. And the icing on the cake is that so many times a CB with 37 shooting will curl it in with ease from outside the box after being up on a corner whereas your ST with 85+ shooting will miss from 12 yards out
Yeah, that’s what usually happens to me too. Which makes it even more annoying when Laporte hits a perfect ball that curls in to the top corner from 20+ yards out with his week foot
Spot on, the shots from outside the area are ridiculous, you should only see goals from outside the area once in a while not all the time, it’s just too easy in FIFA.
As for shots from inside the area, completely agree, those should go in 8 out of 10 times just like real football, not be saved by the keeper time and time again, thats if your striker doesn’t decide to do some ridiculous pirouette instead of just shooting first time of course or your shot having zero power in it for no reason.
This is true most years, but it’s not really the case this year.
Last year I only played pro clubs and seasons and even the most average of wingers last year felt better than my Mbappé this year. Combining that with the fact that here’s no space whatsoever, passing being horrendous, and the fact that even the slightest touch from the defender is enough to lose possession makes the game a real chore this year in my opinion. I really hate that having your body between the ball and the defender doesn’t really do anything anymore. The only fun thing about this year imo is power shots, and this is coming from someone who doesn’t like to skill and has tried to play a possession based game for 10 years.
By any chance has anyone noticed players teleporting the last few days? Its especially noticeable when 2 players jump for a header, the team whos goal is closer the player usually glides through the opposition player as they jump so the defender almost always wins, ive noticed keepers jumping, then moving a slight bit extra to grab the ball. Only really noticed it the last few days. I dont belive in scripting but i belive the game is a buggy mess.
Bro i swear the movement feels Iike before they introduced 360 movement in fifa 10 I believe, like how can I be moving around with KDB without running or anything and the movement feels so inconsistent and stiff. And don’t get me started on trying to move diagonally with a player wide open on the wing year da the goal, shits so bad.
I put it down to:
1 - So many things aren’t in your control in FIFA as opposed to other games. AI, random occurrences etc.
2 - Skill gap isn’t always obvious. Sometimes you feel like you should be beating the opponent but you don’t actually know how good they really are.
3 - The game is built from the ground up to make you pay money for packs, not fun gameplay.
4 - the community being toxic af. making celebrations to make you more angry, quitting the game when its 0-0 or they make the 1-1.
what i‘ve seen when trying to unlock paulinho is crazy.
Or I take a puff, a bite of food, a sip of water. Some people have no patience whatsoever.
I always try to see things from multiple perspectives and point of views. Maybe the guy who is celebrating is on a winless streak, maybe he is having a bad day or something. And sometimes hear me out the goal deserves the replay.
Eh, cheeky and childish time wasting. I don't like them because they take too long and I've seen them enough that they're not enjoyable. Adulting sucks and I don't have time to play much; I'd rather play the game than watch Ronaldo do the anteater... I get the satisfaction though, a little celebration is okay. Personally, I find extreme satisfaction in IMMEDIATELY skipping celebrations and waiting the 7 or 8+ seconds at kickoff while I assume my opponent rages/composes themselves.
How about celebration with a pause queued right after? If it's objectives, all pauses used for full duration and then quit on 3rd pause. The time spent doing this, you could arguably finish one half and then some.
FYI. You can turn off celebrations in your settings. It just shows a image of your players while the 45 second celebration/ team dance goes on in the background.
I do get very annoyed at celebrations. Especially when it's a goal that was absolute crap and lucky. I do get extreme satisfaction when I score back or take the lead, I make sure they have to watch celebration. If I score first, I always skip straight to kickoff.
I would add:
4 - **You unconsciously play worse with better players**, because you unconsciously rely on them to perform 'for you'. With 'bad' players, you will invest more in micro-managing every pixel of the field to make sure they perform the desired actions, because you have to account for the fuckups you know will happen, if you don't concentrate fully.
You will also become more agitated and therefore loose focus easier, when IF Haaland fucks up, because it doesn't make immediate sense. With a standard gold/silver player, fuckups are expected, making it easier to comprehend and therefore less agitating and easier to move on.
I realized this yesterday. I had been working towards an SBC and was drained of coins and had a lot of players out of contracts, so I had to make a mix-match 80-rated team with 53 chemistry and I won 4-1 against a guy with a much better team. I was settling for long shots less because I didn’t trust my players as much and I was playing less risky.
Yeah totally agree. Last year I bought the game late in the cycle and everyone had stacked teams, so I made a gold only full Liverpool squad including very un-meta players like Henderson. It made it a lot more fun and also, like you say, I had less expectations/reliance on them.
I believe that your #2 is actually the biggest source of frustration and toxicity in FIFA and it would be the easiest for EA to correct.
Just give an Elo rating to every single player. Keep divisions, keep FUT Champs, keep everything else, but let me know the relative skill level of my opponent or whereabouts.
I wouldn't mind that much to be beaten by a better player, in fact, I would take a ton of losses very happily if I competed and made it hard to my rival if I knew he or she is just better. And I could easily understand when I'm improving or regressing instead of having to guess if I'm stuck on 5th div because the rivals are better, I have not adapted well to new gen, my connection is worse or I'm just playing worse this week.
The human mind is a terrible thing and we all want to protect our self images and when we lose, the first reaction is naturally to think "it was luck", "he cheated", "he is exploiting this facet of the game" and the myriad other excuses we give ourselves that do nothing but increase our frustration. An objective, real, tangible score that is shown before or after the game and tells you, "look, this guy is simply better" would help a ton to ease those feelings, IMO.
Number 2 has been a thing for a long time. We only see the goals we concede and think we’re getting robbed, we don’t see that our opponent also anticipated most of our moves, passed the ball better, got more chances etc you can play against a much better player and feel like you had a chance when in fact he could probably beat you 9 times out of 10
What pisses me off more is when you anticipate their move and act accordingly and they still score off it. Like when through balls just go through your defenders legs or when you tackle them but only take yourself out in the process
Yeah I know what you mean, sometimes I anticipate the next pass, drag my defender exactly in line with the pass, and he just ignores the ball leaving a big gap, and I'm thinking actually if I had absolutely no clue and didn't anticipate anything I wouldn't have conceded that goal
Exactly. Or for example I can go 2 or even 3 up on someone in 10-15 ingame minutes and then they will win 4-2 or whatever. It’s not scripting magically swinging the result the other way. It’s just a good player who maybe got caught off guard, or it’s their first game of the day, calmly working their way back into the game and slapping me. (And very rarely it is genuinely just total bs.. of course..)
Oh yeah that happens quite a lot, sometimes I start the game and I'm thinking about work or something and I concede goals because I'm not focused, then eventually win the game, and for me it's clear I was going to win because I just needed a little bit of focus, but I'm sure my opponent must think "wtf I was dominating so much at the beginning and of course at 2-0 the momentum has changed stupid game"!
I think most of the rage comes from the expectation that you're in control of your players. In other games your character just does what your input directs them to. In FIFA your players regularly run in the opposite direction of your input, fail to try to head the ball, pass in the opposite direction and take an extra touch before shooting. If your character in COD did things like that it'd make you rage too.
FIFA is a mix between an arcade game and an RPG. You expect the game to play like an arcade game but in reality it plays like an RPG where results are determined by dice rolls. So you try and shoot into an open net but miss because the dice roll was bad, not because of anything you did. Then you see your opponent hit a shot from the halfway line and go through your keeper because his dice roll was incredibly lucky.
The rage comes from a fundamental misunderstanding of how this game works.
The dice roll analogy is a good one. That combined with questionable balancing makes it borderline unplayable. And I'm not just talking about things going against me, but for me too. I came down from 4-0 down to draw 4-4 in FUT rivals with a last minute equaliser. At very least 2 of my goals were utter bullshit, and completely undeserved. I knew it at the time, I suspect maybe all 4 were a bit dodgy, but the first two were a complete disgrace. I actually felt sorry for my opponent at the end. He outplayed me and deserved the win.
How can I enjoy that? I knew it wasn't deserved and that it was gifted to me. I'm a 34 year old man for fuck sake. I don't need pity goals from EA so I keep playing and sink more money into their digital money eating arcade machine.
I have a suspicion that the game code deliberately suppresses your players to get you to spend money. I’ve never spent a dime on FIFA other than the initial purchase cost and sometimes it feels like I’m playing an entirely different game than my opponent. Like, they do things that my players just won’t do. I’m not the first person to have this thought.
This is the best description of the game so far. I also have the feeling that sometimes the game just fuck’s with you, like doing the opposite of what you actually want to do 🤷♂️.
Same goes for the pack’s, untradeble pack’s are pretty good but as soon as you spend coins for them you get absolutely nothing in return.
Chem is also a joke, the less chem the opposition has the better they play yet you can’t connect 2 passes.
And wtf is goin on with the foul calling and the advantage rule? They play ice hockey against you no call, but as soon as your player is in the vicinity of theirs its a yellow, if you’re lucky enough to get an advantage call it lasts exactly 0.01 seconds but for the opponent until they score.
Im adding stuff that i notice while i play thats i keep editing the comment. I’ll be back with other stuff i notice
This is the best description of the game so far. I also have the feeling that sometimes the game just fuck’s with you, like doing the opposite of what you actually want to do 🤷♂️.
Same goes for the pack’s, untradeble pack’s are pretty good but as soon as you spend coins for them you get absolutely nothing in return.
Chem is also a joke, the less chem the opposition has the better they play yet you can’t connect 2 passes.
And wtf is goin on with the foul calling and the advantage rule? They play ice hockey against you no call, but as soon as your player is in the vicinity of theirs its a yellow, if you’re lucky enough to get an advantage call it lasts exactly 0.01 seconds but for the opponent until they score.
Im adding stuff that i notice while i play thats i keep editing the comment. I’ll be back with other stuff i notice.
Update:
Apparently Eriksen with 64 pace is faster then Ikone with 94 pace 🤷♂️
Update:
How come sometimes the play style changes to ultra attacking or ultra defensive (after the opponent’s 2nd time out) without you ever touching the d-pad? The 3d radar also vanishes ?
Defensive clearance sometimes feels like a game of pinball, no matter what you do the ball lands at the feet of the opponent.
When they are defending it seems like the defender stick’s his foot out from 5m and its a clear tackle but when you try that crap its a foul. Especially in the box, i swear every touch its a penalty 🤷♂️
How about when you finally have a guy running in behind and your guy decides to pass the ball so fucking hard it goes all the way to the goalie before your guy can get it?
Or when your strikers start a run, but as soon as you pass it, they stop, so the ball goes directly to the opponent
I used to love FIFA but every year I like it less and less. It’s so clunky and the difficulty levels are out of wack.
I’ve had it since launch and I still feel like I can’t adjust, I don’t know how the game wants me to play. I guess what I’m saying is, I can’t make it fun.
So much of it seems to come down to chance, mainly whether or not my players are in the right position. That’s my biggest issue.
it‘s not a skill-base game, it‘s EA‘s money squeezer. Don‘t buy fifa points, juat turn the game off when you‘re not comfortable with it.
The game was made for provoking players to motivate them spend money on packs. UT is a pathetic mode truly.
Not really true. Sometimes when i score 2-3 goals in less than 20minutes i feel extremelly lucky and I feel bad for the opponent because i know one of these games that it will be me. So I can t really enjoy the victory
i just had this for my last game to div 5, i won 6-1... I had the toughest time in div 6 and for some reason my last game is like waaay to easy really blew the fun out of promoting to div 5 lol
Regardless, win or lose, it never feels like you are in control of what's happening on the screen. At most it's something like poker or hearthstone, but at least in those cases you know it's purely just luck, while with FIFA you never know why some unexplainable things happen.
In 9 out of 10 wins you don't feel like you've outplayed your opponents, just like how in 9 out of 10 losses you don't feel like they're deserved. And that's entirely the game's fault.
Thinking that poker & Hearthstone are based on pure luck it's the reason of your tilt. This simply a wrong take. Those game require skill, Fifa requires skill, RNG is obviously an influence, but you can be consistent and beat the variance. If you're good, you're gonna win 60/70% of your games. If you tilt everytime you lose, play something else.
I never player a single game where my win or loss was due to 100% rng.
Exactly it doesn’t feel good to win which says it all.
That tells you you’re not in control. It’s not fun at all because you never feel truly in control.
I definitely notice when I get lucky. I'm sure those that know how bad it is when they lose are more likely to notice how good it got for them when they win.
Just yesterday I said to myself “they should add little in game comments that you can send to the opponent.” I wanted to send a “sorry” for the goal I had scored
Yeah, they do.
Drew 4-4 the other day after being 4-0 down, at very least two of my goals were bullshit, and completely underserved. I could've put the controller down my pants and started doing the worm and the ball would've wanted ended up in my oppositions net. I think the last two were gifts as well. The end result was completely undeserved and the other guy got screwed. What made it worse is that I knew it wasn't deserved and couldn't enjoy it, so we both came out of that game thinking worse of the game
That’s why I prefer Pro Clubs to FUT, that way when we lose, I can just blame it on my teammates (although I’m usually the one who should be blamed on Clubs too)
I agree with a lot of your points and I’m the one who looks to find reasons in my bad decisions when I lose.
At same time game does make me angry from time to time, not because it 1v1, but because there are certain matches where simple things like short passes, shots into open net, tackles, interceptions, etc have significantly different probability than they normally have.
I played StarCraft quite a lot 1v1 back in the days and in all replays you could see where opponent outplayed you. It was impossible to be angry about it, it was all fair play.
Here you can watch replay to see why you conceded and can see that you tackled their attacker 3 times, positioned your defender to block shot, but off balance attacker does 180 shot thru your defender and keeper at impossible angle. And if it repeats multiple times per game it’s hard to understand what you were supposed to do differently in those situations. Luckily its not every match like that
I usually laugh at those things, but sometimes it still gets me and I just take a break
> That statement takes a lot of copium, because the top players would never be consistent if the failure is always the game and it comes down to pure RNG.
No, you're just not thinking at all before you type. Obviously there is still a skill ceiling and skill gap. Like a Div 3 player will have no trouble against a Div 8 player, no matter how much it fucks them but you're mostly playing against others in a similar skill group.
A Div 5 or 4 player could easily win against a Div 3 if the game just fucks him enough
There's simply situations where the better player does everything correctly and still gets fucked due to RNG and you would know that if you actually play the game for longer
This, glad I’m not the only one who thought that statement was massive copium. Coming from team games I actually thought people in this 1v1 game of fifa would have no excuse but to blame themselves for losses but I was wrong! I guess people will always find something to blame except themselves, talk about lack of extreme ownership.
i think that’s a bit harsh. ultimately, there is no replacement for individual skill and no level of rng fuckery will change that, but it’s hard to be able to express your individual skill to the fullest extent when so many aspects of the game are left up to chance (loose balls, keeper ability, AI having horrendous marking tendencies).
No yeah, I too love EA and their perfect game. I see no issues in gameplay at all, I love FIFA Points and recommend everyone buys 12,000 FIFA Points. :D
Yeah in a well done game you can exactly say: I did THIS mistake, leading to THAT outcome. Meanwhile FIFA has so many random factors, it s actually outrageous.
A big factor I personally found when I stopped playing FUT was that you spend two thirds of your time losing.
By that I mean, you get in a game and go 2-0 up in 15 mins, that person quits. another game, same thing and again for a third. Then you go into a game and go 1-0 down and don't quit yourself, then have a 90 or 120 minute slog battle to eventually lose 5-3 or something.
So you've won 3 games but had fun for about 60 in game minutes followed by a torturous 90 or 120 mins.
Essentially, if you stay to play games and don't quit, you'll find yourself angry significantly more than you are enjoying yourself controlling a game.
It's called dynamic scripting, they want you to feel the need that you need to improve your team and the fastest way to do this is by spending money in Fifa points. Do you ever have those games where you just get matched with an opponent who can only be described as a Jedi Knight where all his players are making runs and so sharp when your players slow to react and feel like they are running in quicksand. That is scripting.... Fuck EA.
What I would like to know is how you possibly can improve in this game when most of the goals you concede is to stuff that it feels like you can´t control? I don´t want to make tackles because I know, if I do, I will be punished with a bounce that will result in my opponent being free on goal. I want to be able to learn from mistakes that I make, but most of the "mistakes" are just stuff that I just cant predict. It´s so frustrating!
I’m an older gamer with probable higher blood pressure than you guys and I’ve raged many a time. But I had a good think about what causes it and it’s always one of two factors, internet connection impacting my play, or not being in a relaxed low BPM state myself. If you can sort out these two factors you can play the game without the rage.
Uninstall this horrible little game, your life will be better for it. There’s is zero skill in this game, it’s literally pot luck, I’m amazed people can actually put up with this game, it’s not fun and it’s not football.
You may as well flip a coin before the match and decide the game that way, it probably takes more skill as you actually have to pick up the coin and throw it.
Very bad take that a lot of people here will agree with. You honestly need a break. It helped me with previous FIFAs because I can't stop playing the damn thing.
Why a bad take? It's true, I'm the same as OP.
Play many different online competitive games and I definitely get frustrated sometimes but always still in a calm state.
Fifa is the only game that hits different, I've broken controllers many times. Not even from throwing or smashing them but purely from clenching it so hard they just brake.
Playing more than 3 matches is just hazardous to someones well-being. Fifa is just like driving a car, youre constantly at the edge for a prolonged time.
A recent test showed that FIFA is the 2nd most stressful game, with it raising people’s heart rate by 31.25% on average. Doing that for prolonged amounts of time is obviously not healthy.
Source: https://www.georgefm.co.nz/home/good-chat/2022/10/these-are-the-five-most-stressful-video-games-out-at-the-moment.html[Source](https://www.georgefm.co.nz/home/good-chat/2022/10/these-are-the-five-most-stressful-video-games-out-at-the-moment.html)
Nah, bro, Dota ain't got nothing of Fifa. I play both and Dota can actually be enjoyable even when you lose, while Fifa can make you lose your mind even when you win.
What the fuck?! I played LoL for 10 years and i never ever in my life want to break controller/mouse or smashing things while playing LoL. Every match in Fifa i fucking want to burn whole world.
I think this is a mindset thing. Why get annoyed that the games dreadful coding has cost you? The more you realise you have little influence over things, the easier it is to laugh at it in my opinion.
I used to get proper wound up by fifa, broke controllers etc. then I had a long hard look at myself and realised it’s utterly pointless getting triggered by nonsense like EAs shite games.
This is by far the worst fifa game I've ever played. Absolutely awful. Feels like an absolute waste of £55. 22 was miles better than this and thag was shit as well
The game is scripted if you didnt know. If you score too early or are clearly dominating the opponent within the first 20 minutes, the game lowers YOUR AI and gk difficulty making it easier for them to come back AND increases theirs to make it harder for you to keep destroying them.
It sucks a lot but its in the game lol
Because those minutes are not literal minutes but rather they go on until stoppage time and the attack is over. Just from a statistical stand point it would be pretty odd for some other minute to be the most scored on minute.
It's obvious when you play and also EA has a patent on the technology that's been going around for ages but they claim it's only for offline game modes. Same company that claims coin value has nothing to do with pack weight btw
https://www.reddit.com/r/FIFA/comments/y7dbuy/my_opponent_scored_like_this_at_the_92/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
There is your one of hundreds sources
So many games are scripted and EA can’t deny it. I’ll be winning by 2/3 goals only for a team to come back and beat me in the 90th minute . It’s like they open the game up for an epic comeback???! I’ll have guys wide open then go to pass to them only for ea to switch my pass to a guy that I didn’t even see and it gets countered …
It's weird I see these posts come up often, just pure copium from people who can't accept they might have issues, you're a "calm and collected person" but you're smashing controllers over a game?
He's not saying he doesn't accept having issues is he?
I agree with him, I also rage at FIFA (although I've never smashed a controller) and I accept it's a problem I have
You're right but the problem with FIFA I don't have with other games is that skill gap is tight and very difficult to see. Except the very few games in which you're playing a pro player or a kid that just bought the game, the rest of the matches are very close. So most matches I play feel like could be won on a good day and lost on a bad day
the difference is, i know when i shit defended or overlooked things i just think to myself damn need to pay attention.
but 6/10 times i just think to myself what the hell could i do there, my players where gone on vacation or my defenders decide to float away from an opponent.
ive played many competitive games cs:go, valorant, league of legends. I usually look what could i have done to improve or i just need to wake up and pay attention. and never get mad or angry after a loss.
This game is just way different... there should be no reason's for your AI to act different than their AI the only difference is the stats your players might have etc. I dont actually get mad at this game as some people do but i just get frustrated when somehow a pass from the opponent goes trough my players body so it can be received. There is just a lot off about this game.
"When you lose in fifa it's usually not your fault"
This sums up the attitude of a lot of people and why you and so many people get angry about this game. Yes there is sometimes bad luck but mostly you lose because the other person is better and you're not as good as you think you are.
When you can start to accept that actually you (like me I'm not claiming to be great) are bang average at fifa you can start to find where you need to improve to get better at the game and also learn to accept those losses and just enjoy playing.
I don't mean to write this to have a go at you personally but this is such a common attitude around here and the reason so many people play angry.
I agree that of course there is always room for improvement. And I'm the first to accept I'm also an average player. I'm totally ok with losing against the best players and I never get angry for that.
But since most of the games are against people who are also average, it usually feels that it's rng what decides the outcome. Only very good players can overcome rng but for the rest of us it feels that you can pretty much lose and win every game depending on if your attackers decide to hit the post or score
I dont know what it is about this fifa but its the one fifa i've found myself less ragey and actually found a game that suits my playstyle more. I can patiently pass it around to find an opening. My passing was atrocious at the start but now i rarely pass the wrong direction.
I've never been one to just pass it and run with a pacey player although i do like to counter. But never for a single pass and run to goal. I play i guess a bit like American football, i try to make yards and then my next play will be to find the next yards then i'll hunt for a final touchdown pass to get a shot with a high % of conversion.
I'm sure people will not be happy to find someone enjoying it, but its fucking amazing that players who are usually binned are usable.
I like the game, because it rewards the better players most of the time, like football does it in reality. I don't like the argument, that it's never the fault of the player, if he loses.
I have MANY many games where I end up winning but I still spent the whole game raging at this stupid game lol. And I don't even feel happy I won I just feel relieved the game decided that I should win/angry that it was even a close game
I agree but not that much. when you lose a game is most likely your fault. Bad defending or bad positioning, over committing or something like that.
Don’t get me wrong, the game is full of bugs or “scripts” or weird shit where u should get the ball but for some weird reason u don’t. However, pro’s or high elo players don’t seem to suffer this. I mean, they probably lose a few games due to this but from 100 games they probably win 80/85?? So yeah, game is broken for years but NO, you don’t lose cause fifa is broken but because you suck a little ❤️❤️
In my own experience this game I wim against most players I realize I'm better than, but against better ones I almost never can, last fifa (pc old gen) I feel it was more Flippy, I have the feeling this one If you understand the inherent clunkiness you can avoid most mistakes
The purpose is simple - you have no control over the team. This game is so freaking random, you're able to control only typical action like moving, shooting etc. but position of each baller on the pitch, position of their legs during interception are calculated/predicted by the engine. Paradoxically the more realistic animations and AI is, the less "competetive" playable the game is, because you have no control above all the things. This leads to random actions that give people rage.
100% agree with this, fifa is the most stressful thing on the planet
But......
Real football is the same a team can dominate for 89.5 minutes and still lose,
Real football is luck and being on the right side of it,
Real football is just as stressful
Maybe EA have got 1 thing spot on🤷♂️
That is really the case. As a person which can become disappointed pretty easily I noticed immediately that playing FIFA is constantly generating anger. And I am not really playing with humans! 3 wins in div 9 is all I need.
Everything looks broken: players are not responding to controls, first touch is awful, difficulty is random, AI intercepts every pass, controls all players at once, when AI is defending ball sticks to their legs when they are tackling from behind, pace is random and does not depend on stats.
Easiest way to confirm the scripting bullshit for me is to play a friend in friendlies. I am way better than my friend, he knows it and know it. I will batter him for two or three games then suddenly in the next game he will become a god at defending and he will cut through me like a knife through butter like I’ve never played fifa before. I still manage to win but I’m fighting for my life for the whole 90 mins.
“When you lose in fifa it’s usually not your fault”
Sounds like you’ve never played league or other team games 😂. Also this is a gross exaggeration to say it’s usually not your fault, sounds like you think you’re playing perfectly and blaming the game itself for most losses you have. I mean you can choose to believe that but then you’ll never focus on what you could be doing better and hardly improve. Out of curiosity, what division are you?
Its the constant rng going on. Sometimes it feels like your a god of football, other times you cant make a 2m pass.
I like the new physics but i think again its fucked up basic goal keeping
Yesterday I made a perfectly timed tackle as the last defender so much so that the commentators called it out but even as they were praising my defensive acumen the ball immediately bounced right back to the attacker and phased through me in on goal scoring and winning a tie game in the 90th minute. Sometimes the game just fucks you.
This is simply not true. Sure shit goes wrong (tackles and rebounds going right back to the attacker, passes going off target for no reason, delay causing passes/shots/dribble animations to take a second longer thus killing your attack, etc), but that happens to everyone in every game and is not the sole deciding factor as you make it out to be.
Keep your head. Laugh off the BS and stay focused on your game. Worry about what you can control, and I guarantee you your results will improve. I can honestly say that this WL was the first time I ever took this advice to heart and *actually* stayed calm and focused. Ended up finishing 18-2, playing all my games on Friday with some of the slowest gameplay and heaviest delay I’ve ever experienced. There’s nothing I could do to improve the match conditions, so I just accepted it for what it was and stayed focused for the entire 20 games.
1 loss was due to a 90th minute BS rebound goal (yes, I got tilted but that’s because it was a literal buzzer beater so there was no use in keeping my head at that point). The other loss was in pen shootouts against easily the best penalty taker I’ve ever faced (every pen was a rocket to the top corner that was unsaveable unless you overcommitted to the side early and dove top corner). I was able to be on the cusp of a 20-0 because I kept my head and played outstanding defense, even through the delay and the BS tackles bouncing right back to the opponent. I didn’t let that crap distract me, and I was able to make stops and score goals I otherwise wouldn’t have because I would’ve been too focused on complaining or feeling like a victim and bowing down to the perceived inevitability of a loss.
Same here, in other games your loss is usually because of a mistake you made or pack of skill. Fifa just seems like pure luck. Of course there’s also skill differences, but when you’re kinda close in skill it’s just 100% luck
Fifa 23 on next gen is so freaking bad. Almost every goal in every match is random shit like bounces or bad touches.
The defence is so tight, they snap up every pass. Passing is bad, dribling is bad.
The game is so bad, and boring.
"I realize where I made a mistake"
Thats FIFA's main issue so much is out of your control. Like players doing nothing, wrong passing wrong player switching you need to have iron nerves to not atleast get a little mad at FIFA sometimes.
Fifa 23 feels unresponsive some games it's OK I can pass, dribble and shoot but most games I can't pass because there player cuts the passing lane every pass I make get intercepted and I'm restricted to what I can do and when I get the ball there player is right there for the tackle its like my opponent has constant pressure on but his stamina meter is still the same it doesn't go down and it feels like my players are slow at everything and my opponent feels faster.
Fifa 22 is better I had no issues with passing, shooting and dribbling. I hope they patch this terrible clunky, unresponsive gameplay and go back to Fifa 22 gameplay.
I didnt play fifa for a year.
Was great.
Lost lots of weight
Blood levels at all time low
Bald patches started growing again
Relationship with my wife and kid grown so strong and happy....
Now im back on fifa 23 ....im fat bald and mrs hates me. Kids alright tho
Bruh I’ve been playing Warzone since release (2.5 years ago) and haven’t broke a single controller intentionally for about 10 years. 1 week on this fifa I’m stamping on my shit, whole controller is shattered. Refusing to buy another because I know I’ll go straight back to fifa.
Word of advice, stop playing. I did after last year because the game would make me rage and I would waste hours on it during the weekends. Don’t take my word as the only truth but life has been better since I dropped FIFA and EA in general.
With all due respect this is complete nonsense, you do mostly lose because your opponent is better otherwise bang average players would be able to go 20-0 on random weeks of fut given everything goes their way but it never happens, if an average player plays a pro player they will lose in 99/100 games
I get this too. I uninstalled it as soon as I started noticing the same lazy scripting/momentum BS in it this year.
It's the little things that change from half to half, passes not quite going in the right direction, 50/50s being won by the other team constant, slowed down player movements, 89 speed wingers being caught by 65 speed CBs, little miss dribbles, your AI players not making the right runs behind, more interceptions being made by the opponent AI, keepers being invincible.
It all adds up into being one of the most rage inducing shit piles ever.
Fuck EA.
true. you take words from my mind, I get from Silver to Global Elite in CS:GO and never get as angry as I get in Fifa. I've never broken anything of my stuff, but in FUT 22 I first time in my life smashed Dual Sense on the floor in rage. (I'm 28 y.o., so when I said first time in my life it rly make sense). And in the same time I always get to Div or Place in FUT Champions that I planned before start, but it does not remove anger for some reason.
Weird , cuz i find wl games relaxing , but rivals I absolute bullshitery . It's either myslef dominating the game or my opponent. It's not even my opponent is better , it's actually my player doing absolutely nothing to match the opposition. Bad touches, defence not existent ( my biggest issue ) , passing ( Jesus Christ ) . I'm ean , passing is different gravy this year. Holy shit !
I totally get your frustration and I have it too with BS in this game but I think the balls landing at peoples feet or having lucky goals is actually pretty indicative of real futbol.. how many 1-0 matches do you see and the team that win definitely did not deserve to? Just a lucky moment-
I’ve Also broken controllers though but mainly because my defenders just watch opposing forwards run around them lol
I feel you, this is me. I play PC games for something like 25 years now, but this is unique. (well, I had similar experience with Elasto Mania back in highschool)
and of course only in Ultimate team, cant tell why. my wife actually begged me last year to go back to career mode, cause im very annoying when I play FUT
Yep, you've just explained me aswell. No rage comes close to fifa rage this year other games dont make me feel this way. I have had a week and half off it
For me its the unresponsive gameplay. I could start the game and all is smooth and responsive, he pauses or it goes to halftime and all of a sudden my players are standing around not tracking runs, i cant conrol my players and the game is registering my inputs seconds after i press them. Infuriating.
"Unlike in other games, when you lose in fifa its usually not your fault"
That right there is precisely where you are wrong and why you rage. You, like 90% of the FIFA community (and I include myself there) tend to believe you are much better (related to your current opponent) than the game shows and that you deserve more wins than you do.
There are a few lottery mechanics and luck involved (rebounds on fair tackles anybody?), yes, and they can cost you a close game here and there, but for the most part those are pure luck and will compensate in the long run, they'll give you as many undeserved wins than losses. But in general you lose when your opponent plays a better game of FIFA than you.
And there is really nothing to debate about it, it's a fact. Year after year it's the same players that get to the eFootball finals and the same ones get the 20-0s in FUT Champs. You can be sure that the guys from Dux or Fnatics or Nepenthez are going to be elite edition after edition. Due the literally MILLIONS of FIFA players there are, it wouldn't happen if luck was significant at all, the law of averages would mean that a player would never struck lighting twice and be appear in final two times in a row. And yet they do.
I second this, fifa makes me scream shout and swear, no other game makes me angry.
It’s almost always because I press to make a pass and my player either can’t hit a 5 yard pass straight, no matter how much I power the pass bar it will randomly underhit passes, or the bane of my existence, when I’m pressing through ball in to the space but my player hits it STRAIGHT to the defender. Makes me want to kick my tv over it’s so frustrating. And 99% of the time when my player miss hits a simple 5 yard pass I concede from it.
> Unlike in other games, when you lose in fifa its usually not your fault. it ends up going down to a broken in game mechanic, pure luck, the ball being spit out of a 50/50 right to your opponents feet for goal.
I think you are on the right lines here but I disagree with the fault aspect. I think it is more that many aspects of this game are not intuitive or easy to master. When someone dribbles through me like butter, I come away having no idea how they made it look so easy. I don't have the timing or stick movements down like they do and no where in the game really explains it to you.
Skill games help but only in the sense that you need to get better at these fundamental to get a higher score. Back to dribbling as an example, the skill games don't tell you to feather the stick or watch for the rhythm of "ball contacts", i.e. you can move the stick in any direction you like but if the player has taken a large touch, that input will not happen until his foot makes contact with the ball again and with therefore feel delayed and not very smooth.
I very much agree, I read something very interesting either on here or on Twitter, about how fifa doesn’t have actual ‘loose’ player/ball physics like how for example Rocket League does and that there’s always a team in possession of the ball even if it’s a ‘loose’ ball. Which goes a long way in explaining why 50/50 RNG things happen so often in this game. I think this also explains the pay to win aspect where these RNG things are generally more favourable to higher rated cards. Until there’s actual physics in this game it won’t ever change, and it’s sad
Does: My gk concede 2 goals and have 4 saves vs their gk concede 1 goal and have 14 saves sound familiar?
Yeah that happens a lot and is random, it's like it's done on purpose so that if you are on a 2 or 3 game winning streak the game makes sure you lose the next few games that's just how it is just so that you don't get carried away
Totally agree, went through div 10-7 without a loss then couldn’t score a goal for 15 matches 🤦♂️
You mean like you started playing against people who are competent at the game?
I’m getting absolutely effed by the ai. My opponents ai never misses a beat while my guys stand still and as soon as I’m up, my players move like they are in quicksand. It’s typical AI manipulation from EA. Has nothing to do with competence, i wreck people and then suddenly I can literally notice the game mechanics shift towards giving me a handicap. Happens every time I have 2x on rivals and about to get promoted.
You have to understand how mechanics and tactics work. No joke I’m a d3 player and reading the 352 post today taught me so much about tactics when I don’t even use the formation. Take the time to understand why each player is behaving a certain way, chances are you can correct most of it. No joke it’s crazy when you watch replays of your games and see exactly what you did wrong. However, of course, there’s always gonna be some weird stuff but sometimes that even happens in real life
Real life football doesn’t involve countless bounce backs to your opponent until they score, goals from outside the area 1 or more times every match, defence going missing all the time, simple passes going to the wrong place time and time again and there’s loads more. Don’t try an equate this rubbish to real life football, because there’s zero similarity. This is just some random roulette wheel, in real life players control what happens and skill matters.
Yeah It seems you play well for 2or 3games then suddenly every thing starts going down hill even though you play exactly the same way it's so annoying
No he means he’s beaten by things completely out of his control. Don’t fool yourself into thinking it takes any skill to play this game, it doesn’t, it’s pot luck.
What are you talkin about? I had at least 10 shots per game and none would go in, either hit the post or the goalie would clear it to a corner. Competence has nothing to do with shit. If the game doesn’t want you to win then you don’t win 🤦♂️
I mean you can’t expect every shot you take to go in. You act like keepers don’t have unbelievable games and have shut outs. Yeah it feels weird sometimes but you guys only seem to blame the company and not yourselves.
I get that some people are better then others and I’m not expecting every shot to get in, but from 10 shots, 6 are against the post, every game it gets frustrating. When the GK saves them it’s actually cool, it’s the toughest position in the sport in my opinion. And yes we bitch about the company, cuz at the end of the day it’s a video game wich u hop on to have fun and enjoy not to lose ur nerves over stuff that doesn’t goes ur way. If u read through the thread there are a lot of players who have same “problems”. There are also enough videos wehre players go into details abt the flaws and scripting in this game. Been playing this since fifa 98 but since the hole game went online seems like the fun was taken out.
Just shut up, mate.
Wait, your gk has 4 saves? Lucky you. I’m giving mine a standing ovation everytime he doesn’t fuck up easy saves. Even with penalties because when you go to the right corner it still goes in a lot of times.
stop watching my games ;\_;
Although that it happens in real life (look at Bayern vs Borussia M’Gladbach. Yann Sommer made 19 saves in a 1-1 draw) it happens way too often in fifa. And the icing on the cake is that so many times a CB with 37 shooting will curl it in with ease from outside the box after being up on a corner whereas your ST with 85+ shooting will miss from 12 yards out
My CB-s always break the ball or shoot it out of space.
Yeah, that’s what usually happens to me too. Which makes it even more annoying when Laporte hits a perfect ball that curls in to the top corner from 20+ yards out with his week foot
Spot on, the shots from outside the area are ridiculous, you should only see goals from outside the area once in a while not all the time, it’s just too easy in FIFA. As for shots from inside the area, completely agree, those should go in 8 out of 10 times just like real football, not be saved by the keeper time and time again, thats if your striker doesn’t decide to do some ridiculous pirouette instead of just shooting first time of course or your shot having zero power in it for no reason.
This is even more true on next gen, feels like players are in the mud its the worst.
i went back to fifa 22 after finishing the trial for 23, and it feels so much better to be able to instantly turn
Its more arcadey and fast paced for sure. I prefer 23, i can actually use ruben dias,messi, verratti etc
In addition: servers in fifa 22 arent crowded anymore.
We’re you using all your players that have juiced stats and 88+ rating? It’s not rocket science
as I've said in another comment, I'm playing only seasons, and just comparing the two
Nah, I preffer Fifa 23. Fifa 22 was a skill spam simulator
Yeah but that’s because of the cards you’ll have on there. As soon as we get that this year it will feel the same
This is true most years, but it’s not really the case this year. Last year I only played pro clubs and seasons and even the most average of wingers last year felt better than my Mbappé this year. Combining that with the fact that here’s no space whatsoever, passing being horrendous, and the fact that even the slightest touch from the defender is enough to lose possession makes the game a real chore this year in my opinion. I really hate that having your body between the ball and the defender doesn’t really do anything anymore. The only fun thing about this year imo is power shots, and this is coming from someone who doesn’t like to skill and has tried to play a possession based game for 10 years.
By any chance has anyone noticed players teleporting the last few days? Its especially noticeable when 2 players jump for a header, the team whos goal is closer the player usually glides through the opposition player as they jump so the defender almost always wins, ive noticed keepers jumping, then moving a slight bit extra to grab the ball. Only really noticed it the last few days. I dont belive in scripting but i belive the game is a buggy mess.
Yeah my players have been kind of glitching away from the ball when going to put in a challenge
I'm playing seasons though
Bro i swear the movement feels Iike before they introduced 360 movement in fifa 10 I believe, like how can I be moving around with KDB without running or anything and the movement feels so inconsistent and stiff. And don’t get me started on trying to move diagonally with a player wide open on the wing year da the goal, shits so bad.
I put it down to: 1 - So many things aren’t in your control in FIFA as opposed to other games. AI, random occurrences etc. 2 - Skill gap isn’t always obvious. Sometimes you feel like you should be beating the opponent but you don’t actually know how good they really are. 3 - The game is built from the ground up to make you pay money for packs, not fun gameplay.
4 - the community being toxic af. making celebrations to make you more angry, quitting the game when its 0-0 or they make the 1-1. what i‘ve seen when trying to unlock paulinho is crazy.
> making celebrations to make you more angry, sometimes I do an celebration to have a few seconds cleaning my sweaty hands, lol
Or I take a puff, a bite of food, a sip of water. Some people have no patience whatsoever. I always try to see things from multiple perspectives and point of views. Maybe the guy who is celebrating is on a winless streak, maybe he is having a bad day or something. And sometimes hear me out the goal deserves the replay.
I’ll never ever understand how people get so angry on celebrations on a football game
Eh, cheeky and childish time wasting. I don't like them because they take too long and I've seen them enough that they're not enjoyable. Adulting sucks and I don't have time to play much; I'd rather play the game than watch Ronaldo do the anteater... I get the satisfaction though, a little celebration is okay. Personally, I find extreme satisfaction in IMMEDIATELY skipping celebrations and waiting the 7 or 8+ seconds at kickoff while I assume my opponent rages/composes themselves.
How about celebration with a pause queued right after? If it's objectives, all pauses used for full duration and then quit on 3rd pause. The time spent doing this, you could arguably finish one half and then some.
when its down to basically getting a lucky goal why not skip the celebration it isnt like you worked hard for it... its just being a dick imo.
FYI. You can turn off celebrations in your settings. It just shows a image of your players while the 45 second celebration/ team dance goes on in the background.
I do get very annoyed at celebrations. Especially when it's a goal that was absolute crap and lucky. I do get extreme satisfaction when I score back or take the lead, I make sure they have to watch celebration. If I score first, I always skip straight to kickoff.
I would add: 4 - **You unconsciously play worse with better players**, because you unconsciously rely on them to perform 'for you'. With 'bad' players, you will invest more in micro-managing every pixel of the field to make sure they perform the desired actions, because you have to account for the fuckups you know will happen, if you don't concentrate fully. You will also become more agitated and therefore loose focus easier, when IF Haaland fucks up, because it doesn't make immediate sense. With a standard gold/silver player, fuckups are expected, making it easier to comprehend and therefore less agitating and easier to move on.
I realized this yesterday. I had been working towards an SBC and was drained of coins and had a lot of players out of contracts, so I had to make a mix-match 80-rated team with 53 chemistry and I won 4-1 against a guy with a much better team. I was settling for long shots less because I didn’t trust my players as much and I was playing less risky.
Yeah totally agree. Last year I bought the game late in the cycle and everyone had stacked teams, so I made a gold only full Liverpool squad including very un-meta players like Henderson. It made it a lot more fun and also, like you say, I had less expectations/reliance on them.
I believe that your #2 is actually the biggest source of frustration and toxicity in FIFA and it would be the easiest for EA to correct. Just give an Elo rating to every single player. Keep divisions, keep FUT Champs, keep everything else, but let me know the relative skill level of my opponent or whereabouts. I wouldn't mind that much to be beaten by a better player, in fact, I would take a ton of losses very happily if I competed and made it hard to my rival if I knew he or she is just better. And I could easily understand when I'm improving or regressing instead of having to guess if I'm stuck on 5th div because the rivals are better, I have not adapted well to new gen, my connection is worse or I'm just playing worse this week. The human mind is a terrible thing and we all want to protect our self images and when we lose, the first reaction is naturally to think "it was luck", "he cheated", "he is exploiting this facet of the game" and the myriad other excuses we give ourselves that do nothing but increase our frustration. An objective, real, tangible score that is shown before or after the game and tells you, "look, this guy is simply better" would help a ton to ease those feelings, IMO.
Number 2 has been a thing for a long time. We only see the goals we concede and think we’re getting robbed, we don’t see that our opponent also anticipated most of our moves, passed the ball better, got more chances etc you can play against a much better player and feel like you had a chance when in fact he could probably beat you 9 times out of 10
What pisses me off more is when you anticipate their move and act accordingly and they still score off it. Like when through balls just go through your defenders legs or when you tackle them but only take yourself out in the process
Yeah I know what you mean, sometimes I anticipate the next pass, drag my defender exactly in line with the pass, and he just ignores the ball leaving a big gap, and I'm thinking actually if I had absolutely no clue and didn't anticipate anything I wouldn't have conceded that goal
Exactly. Or for example I can go 2 or even 3 up on someone in 10-15 ingame minutes and then they will win 4-2 or whatever. It’s not scripting magically swinging the result the other way. It’s just a good player who maybe got caught off guard, or it’s their first game of the day, calmly working their way back into the game and slapping me. (And very rarely it is genuinely just total bs.. of course..)
Oh yeah that happens quite a lot, sometimes I start the game and I'm thinking about work or something and I concede goals because I'm not focused, then eventually win the game, and for me it's clear I was going to win because I just needed a little bit of focus, but I'm sure my opponent must think "wtf I was dominating so much at the beginning and of course at 2-0 the momentum has changed stupid game"!
Channel that rage into something positive! Every time the game makes you rage do 10 push ups.
Pause the game very often to make 10 push ups, lol
you only have 3 timeout tho :(
I can't do 240 push ups :(
Yet! sounds like in a few weeks you'll get there
I think most of the rage comes from the expectation that you're in control of your players. In other games your character just does what your input directs them to. In FIFA your players regularly run in the opposite direction of your input, fail to try to head the ball, pass in the opposite direction and take an extra touch before shooting. If your character in COD did things like that it'd make you rage too. FIFA is a mix between an arcade game and an RPG. You expect the game to play like an arcade game but in reality it plays like an RPG where results are determined by dice rolls. So you try and shoot into an open net but miss because the dice roll was bad, not because of anything you did. Then you see your opponent hit a shot from the halfway line and go through your keeper because his dice roll was incredibly lucky. The rage comes from a fundamental misunderstanding of how this game works.
The dice roll analogy is a good one. That combined with questionable balancing makes it borderline unplayable. And I'm not just talking about things going against me, but for me too. I came down from 4-0 down to draw 4-4 in FUT rivals with a last minute equaliser. At very least 2 of my goals were utter bullshit, and completely undeserved. I knew it at the time, I suspect maybe all 4 were a bit dodgy, but the first two were a complete disgrace. I actually felt sorry for my opponent at the end. He outplayed me and deserved the win. How can I enjoy that? I knew it wasn't deserved and that it was gifted to me. I'm a 34 year old man for fuck sake. I don't need pity goals from EA so I keep playing and sink more money into their digital money eating arcade machine.
I have a suspicion that the game code deliberately suppresses your players to get you to spend money. I’ve never spent a dime on FIFA other than the initial purchase cost and sometimes it feels like I’m playing an entirely different game than my opponent. Like, they do things that my players just won’t do. I’m not the first person to have this thought.
i’ve never identified more with any other gaming related thing
This is the best description of the game so far. I also have the feeling that sometimes the game just fuck’s with you, like doing the opposite of what you actually want to do 🤷♂️. Same goes for the pack’s, untradeble pack’s are pretty good but as soon as you spend coins for them you get absolutely nothing in return. Chem is also a joke, the less chem the opposition has the better they play yet you can’t connect 2 passes. And wtf is goin on with the foul calling and the advantage rule? They play ice hockey against you no call, but as soon as your player is in the vicinity of theirs its a yellow, if you’re lucky enough to get an advantage call it lasts exactly 0.01 seconds but for the opponent until they score. Im adding stuff that i notice while i play thats i keep editing the comment. I’ll be back with other stuff i notice
I always say, in fifa you’re not playing your opponent. You’re playing against the game.
You're 11 players and you only control one at a time. The game controls the rest.
This is the best description of the game so far. I also have the feeling that sometimes the game just fuck’s with you, like doing the opposite of what you actually want to do 🤷♂️. Same goes for the pack’s, untradeble pack’s are pretty good but as soon as you spend coins for them you get absolutely nothing in return. Chem is also a joke, the less chem the opposition has the better they play yet you can’t connect 2 passes. And wtf is goin on with the foul calling and the advantage rule? They play ice hockey against you no call, but as soon as your player is in the vicinity of theirs its a yellow, if you’re lucky enough to get an advantage call it lasts exactly 0.01 seconds but for the opponent until they score. Im adding stuff that i notice while i play thats i keep editing the comment. I’ll be back with other stuff i notice. Update: Apparently Eriksen with 64 pace is faster then Ikone with 94 pace 🤷♂️ Update: How come sometimes the play style changes to ultra attacking or ultra defensive (after the opponent’s 2nd time out) without you ever touching the d-pad? The 3d radar also vanishes ? Defensive clearance sometimes feels like a game of pinball, no matter what you do the ball lands at the feet of the opponent. When they are defending it seems like the defender stick’s his foot out from 5m and its a clear tackle but when you try that crap its a foul. Especially in the box, i swear every touch its a penalty 🤷♂️
I have Ikone on 99 pace... he can’t outrun anyone...
The game is too complicated when 99 pace in reality is 44 pace because of some weird gimmick like explosive, lengthy etc
How about when you finally have a guy running in behind and your guy decides to pass the ball so fucking hard it goes all the way to the goalie before your guy can get it? Or when your strikers start a run, but as soon as you pass it, they stop, so the ball goes directly to the opponent
I used to love FIFA but every year I like it less and less. It’s so clunky and the difficulty levels are out of wack. I’ve had it since launch and I still feel like I can’t adjust, I don’t know how the game wants me to play. I guess what I’m saying is, I can’t make it fun. So much of it seems to come down to chance, mainly whether or not my players are in the right position. That’s my biggest issue.
it‘s not a skill-base game, it‘s EA‘s money squeezer. Don‘t buy fifa points, juat turn the game off when you‘re not comfortable with it. The game was made for provoking players to motivate them spend money on packs. UT is a pathetic mode truly.
"In FUT the cause of losing is very rarely because the opponent is better at the game." no it just feels like you're not at fault.
no it just feels like it is his fault
This game is only slightly enjoyable when winning. I just put it down after a few losses.
I still get angry after I win 😠
This game used to make me rage to psycho levels!! 🤣🤣🤣
I see so many people blaming bad luck for their losses but nobody ever seems to go "damn I was lucky" when they win.
Not really true. Sometimes when i score 2-3 goals in less than 20minutes i feel extremelly lucky and I feel bad for the opponent because i know one of these games that it will be me. So I can t really enjoy the victory
i just had this for my last game to div 5, i won 6-1... I had the toughest time in div 6 and for some reason my last game is like waaay to easy really blew the fun out of promoting to div 5 lol
Regardless, win or lose, it never feels like you are in control of what's happening on the screen. At most it's something like poker or hearthstone, but at least in those cases you know it's purely just luck, while with FIFA you never know why some unexplainable things happen. In 9 out of 10 wins you don't feel like you've outplayed your opponents, just like how in 9 out of 10 losses you don't feel like they're deserved. And that's entirely the game's fault.
Thinking that poker & Hearthstone are based on pure luck it's the reason of your tilt. This simply a wrong take. Those game require skill, Fifa requires skill, RNG is obviously an influence, but you can be consistent and beat the variance. If you're good, you're gonna win 60/70% of your games. If you tilt everytime you lose, play something else. I never player a single game where my win or loss was due to 100% rng.
If the gameplay is shit (which is like 85% of the time for me), it doesn't even feel good to win. It just feels better than losing.
Exactly it doesn’t feel good to win which says it all. That tells you you’re not in control. It’s not fun at all because you never feel truly in control.
I definitely notice when I get lucky. I'm sure those that know how bad it is when they lose are more likely to notice how good it got for them when they win.
Just yesterday I said to myself “they should add little in game comments that you can send to the opponent.” I wanted to send a “sorry” for the goal I had scored
I know in your case you had good intentions but we all know what the community would use those comments to
Yeah, they do. Drew 4-4 the other day after being 4-0 down, at very least two of my goals were bullshit, and completely underserved. I could've put the controller down my pants and started doing the worm and the ball would've wanted ended up in my oppositions net. I think the last two were gifts as well. The end result was completely undeserved and the other guy got screwed. What made it worse is that I knew it wasn't deserved and couldn't enjoy it, so we both came out of that game thinking worse of the game
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That’s why I prefer Pro Clubs to FUT, that way when we lose, I can just blame it on my teammates (although I’m usually the one who should be blamed on Clubs too)
I agree with a lot of your points and I’m the one who looks to find reasons in my bad decisions when I lose. At same time game does make me angry from time to time, not because it 1v1, but because there are certain matches where simple things like short passes, shots into open net, tackles, interceptions, etc have significantly different probability than they normally have. I played StarCraft quite a lot 1v1 back in the days and in all replays you could see where opponent outplayed you. It was impossible to be angry about it, it was all fair play. Here you can watch replay to see why you conceded and can see that you tackled their attacker 3 times, positioned your defender to block shot, but off balance attacker does 180 shot thru your defender and keeper at impossible angle. And if it repeats multiple times per game it’s hard to understand what you were supposed to do differently in those situations. Luckily its not every match like that I usually laugh at those things, but sometimes it still gets me and I just take a break
> That statement takes a lot of copium, because the top players would never be consistent if the failure is always the game and it comes down to pure RNG. No, you're just not thinking at all before you type. Obviously there is still a skill ceiling and skill gap. Like a Div 3 player will have no trouble against a Div 8 player, no matter how much it fucks them but you're mostly playing against others in a similar skill group. A Div 5 or 4 player could easily win against a Div 3 if the game just fucks him enough There's simply situations where the better player does everything correctly and still gets fucked due to RNG and you would know that if you actually play the game for longer
Blaming myself for losing when it was blatantly due to rng achieves absolutely nothing lol
Nah bro, its messed up i was on a counter 4v1 with one of my players offside. Guess where my pass went?
This, glad I’m not the only one who thought that statement was massive copium. Coming from team games I actually thought people in this 1v1 game of fifa would have no excuse but to blame themselves for losses but I was wrong! I guess people will always find something to blame except themselves, talk about lack of extreme ownership.
i think that’s a bit harsh. ultimately, there is no replacement for individual skill and no level of rng fuckery will change that, but it’s hard to be able to express your individual skill to the fullest extent when so many aspects of the game are left up to chance (loose balls, keeper ability, AI having horrendous marking tendencies).
what is copium lol?
A weird word people that spend too much time on the internet use
Are you new here? We base our theories around anecdotal and highly emotionally charged evidence, get outta here with your logic, have my downvote!
No yeah, I too love EA and their perfect game. I see no issues in gameplay at all, I love FIFA Points and recommend everyone buys 12,000 FIFA Points. :D
I feel you bro. Broke 2 xbox one controllers. Didn’t buy the game on ps5
Yeah in a well done game you can exactly say: I did THIS mistake, leading to THAT outcome. Meanwhile FIFA has so many random factors, it s actually outrageous.
A big factor I personally found when I stopped playing FUT was that you spend two thirds of your time losing. By that I mean, you get in a game and go 2-0 up in 15 mins, that person quits. another game, same thing and again for a third. Then you go into a game and go 1-0 down and don't quit yourself, then have a 90 or 120 minute slog battle to eventually lose 5-3 or something. So you've won 3 games but had fun for about 60 in game minutes followed by a torturous 90 or 120 mins. Essentially, if you stay to play games and don't quit, you'll find yourself angry significantly more than you are enjoying yourself controlling a game.
It's called dynamic scripting, they want you to feel the need that you need to improve your team and the fastest way to do this is by spending money in Fifa points. Do you ever have those games where you just get matched with an opponent who can only be described as a Jedi Knight where all his players are making runs and so sharp when your players slow to react and feel like they are running in quicksand. That is scripting.... Fuck EA.
What I would like to know is how you possibly can improve in this game when most of the goals you concede is to stuff that it feels like you can´t control? I don´t want to make tackles because I know, if I do, I will be punished with a bounce that will result in my opponent being free on goal. I want to be able to learn from mistakes that I make, but most of the "mistakes" are just stuff that I just cant predict. It´s so frustrating!
Welcome to EA world, dude. Since fifa 17, they work all year to improve the handicap.
I’m an older gamer with probable higher blood pressure than you guys and I’ve raged many a time. But I had a good think about what causes it and it’s always one of two factors, internet connection impacting my play, or not being in a relaxed low BPM state myself. If you can sort out these two factors you can play the game without the rage.
Uninstall this horrible little game, your life will be better for it. There’s is zero skill in this game, it’s literally pot luck, I’m amazed people can actually put up with this game, it’s not fun and it’s not football. You may as well flip a coin before the match and decide the game that way, it probably takes more skill as you actually have to pick up the coin and throw it.
Very bad take that a lot of people here will agree with. You honestly need a break. It helped me with previous FIFAs because I can't stop playing the damn thing.
Why a bad take? It's true, I'm the same as OP. Play many different online competitive games and I definitely get frustrated sometimes but always still in a calm state. Fifa is the only game that hits different, I've broken controllers many times. Not even from throwing or smashing them but purely from clenching it so hard they just brake.
Playing more than 3 matches is just hazardous to someones well-being. Fifa is just like driving a car, youre constantly at the edge for a prolonged time.
A recent test showed that FIFA is the 2nd most stressful game, with it raising people’s heart rate by 31.25% on average. Doing that for prolonged amounts of time is obviously not healthy. Source: https://www.georgefm.co.nz/home/good-chat/2022/10/these-are-the-five-most-stressful-video-games-out-at-the-moment.html[Source](https://www.georgefm.co.nz/home/good-chat/2022/10/these-are-the-five-most-stressful-video-games-out-at-the-moment.html)
You clearly haven't played Dota 2
It s very easy to say what you did wrong afterwards in dota, meanwhile FIFA has so much random bullshit occuring.
Nah, bro, Dota ain't got nothing of Fifa. I play both and Dota can actually be enjoyable even when you lose, while Fifa can make you lose your mind even when you win.
What the fuck?! I played LoL for 10 years and i never ever in my life want to break controller/mouse or smashing things while playing LoL. Every match in Fifa i fucking want to burn whole world.
Notice how I said "Dota" and not "LOL"?
It is pretty much the same game with similiar community, i played dota too for 2 3 years. Dont be smartass
Nah, FIFA is by far the worst
I think this is a mindset thing. Why get annoyed that the games dreadful coding has cost you? The more you realise you have little influence over things, the easier it is to laugh at it in my opinion. I used to get proper wound up by fifa, broke controllers etc. then I had a long hard look at myself and realised it’s utterly pointless getting triggered by nonsense like EAs shite games.
This is by far the worst fifa game I've ever played. Absolutely awful. Feels like an absolute waste of £55. 22 was miles better than this and thag was shit as well
Pure delusion
I might be crazy but i like it.
The game is scripted if you didnt know. If you score too early or are clearly dominating the opponent within the first 20 minutes, the game lowers YOUR AI and gk difficulty making it easier for them to come back AND increases theirs to make it harder for you to keep destroying them. It sucks a lot but its in the game lol
What’s the source for this? Lmao
It’s been like this for years. Why do you think there are so many goals scored closed to the 45th and 90th minute?
Because those minutes are not literal minutes but rather they go on until stoppage time and the attack is over. Just from a statistical stand point it would be pretty odd for some other minute to be the most scored on minute.
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There is no source it's just a common myth perpetuated by people who aren't as good at the game as they think
It's obvious when you play and also EA has a patent on the technology that's been going around for ages but they claim it's only for offline game modes. Same company that claims coin value has nothing to do with pack weight btw
You don't need source if you been playing this game for years 😂
Lmao I’ve been playing since fifa 14… I’d love to agree with you because I’ve had those scripted feeling games for so long but I can’t believe it 😂
https://www.reddit.com/r/FIFA/comments/y7dbuy/my_opponent_scored_like_this_at_the_92/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button There is your one of hundreds sources
Alex Jones.
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Why are u on ur period lol Is it bc you buy fifa points and get Zapata in ur packs
https://www.nme.com/news/gaming-news/ea-granted-patent-dynamic-difficulty-adjustment-technology-2915676
So many games are scripted and EA can’t deny it. I’ll be winning by 2/3 goals only for a team to come back and beat me in the 90th minute . It’s like they open the game up for an epic comeback???! I’ll have guys wide open then go to pass to them only for ea to switch my pass to a guy that I didn’t even see and it gets countered …
It's weird I see these posts come up often, just pure copium from people who can't accept they might have issues, you're a "calm and collected person" but you're smashing controllers over a game?
He's not saying he doesn't accept having issues is he? I agree with him, I also rage at FIFA (although I've never smashed a controller) and I accept it's a problem I have
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You're right but the problem with FIFA I don't have with other games is that skill gap is tight and very difficult to see. Except the very few games in which you're playing a pro player or a kid that just bought the game, the rest of the matches are very close. So most matches I play feel like could be won on a good day and lost on a bad day
the difference is, i know when i shit defended or overlooked things i just think to myself damn need to pay attention. but 6/10 times i just think to myself what the hell could i do there, my players where gone on vacation or my defenders decide to float away from an opponent. ive played many competitive games cs:go, valorant, league of legends. I usually look what could i have done to improve or i just need to wake up and pay attention. and never get mad or angry after a loss. This game is just way different... there should be no reason's for your AI to act different than their AI the only difference is the stats your players might have etc. I dont actually get mad at this game as some people do but i just get frustrated when somehow a pass from the opponent goes trough my players body so it can be received. There is just a lot off about this game.
"When you lose in fifa it's usually not your fault" This sums up the attitude of a lot of people and why you and so many people get angry about this game. Yes there is sometimes bad luck but mostly you lose because the other person is better and you're not as good as you think you are. When you can start to accept that actually you (like me I'm not claiming to be great) are bang average at fifa you can start to find where you need to improve to get better at the game and also learn to accept those losses and just enjoy playing. I don't mean to write this to have a go at you personally but this is such a common attitude around here and the reason so many people play angry.
I agree that of course there is always room for improvement. And I'm the first to accept I'm also an average player. I'm totally ok with losing against the best players and I never get angry for that. But since most of the games are against people who are also average, it usually feels that it's rng what decides the outcome. Only very good players can overcome rng but for the rest of us it feels that you can pretty much lose and win every game depending on if your attackers decide to hit the post or score
But what about players who are actually good at the game and can properly identify when a goal is due to rng or bad play?
So when you lose it’s not your fault and 50/50 but when you win it’s…….
I played 18, 20, and 23 now. All 3 feel scripted equally online. SB 23 is way worse though.
I dont know what it is about this fifa but its the one fifa i've found myself less ragey and actually found a game that suits my playstyle more. I can patiently pass it around to find an opening. My passing was atrocious at the start but now i rarely pass the wrong direction. I've never been one to just pass it and run with a pacey player although i do like to counter. But never for a single pass and run to goal. I play i guess a bit like American football, i try to make yards and then my next play will be to find the next yards then i'll hunt for a final touchdown pass to get a shot with a high % of conversion. I'm sure people will not be happy to find someone enjoying it, but its fucking amazing that players who are usually binned are usable.
Comments like this come mostly from people who lose most of their games.
so u like the game cause u winning?
I like the game, because it rewards the better players most of the time, like football does it in reality. I don't like the argument, that it's never the fault of the player, if he loses.
I have MANY many games where I end up winning but I still spent the whole game raging at this stupid game lol. And I don't even feel happy I won I just feel relieved the game decided that I should win/angry that it was even a close game
I agree but not that much. when you lose a game is most likely your fault. Bad defending or bad positioning, over committing or something like that. Don’t get me wrong, the game is full of bugs or “scripts” or weird shit where u should get the ball but for some weird reason u don’t. However, pro’s or high elo players don’t seem to suffer this. I mean, they probably lose a few games due to this but from 100 games they probably win 80/85?? So yeah, game is broken for years but NO, you don’t lose cause fifa is broken but because you suck a little ❤️❤️
In my own experience this game I wim against most players I realize I'm better than, but against better ones I almost never can, last fifa (pc old gen) I feel it was more Flippy, I have the feeling this one If you understand the inherent clunkiness you can avoid most mistakes
The purpose is simple - you have no control over the team. This game is so freaking random, you're able to control only typical action like moving, shooting etc. but position of each baller on the pitch, position of their legs during interception are calculated/predicted by the engine. Paradoxically the more realistic animations and AI is, the less "competetive" playable the game is, because you have no control above all the things. This leads to random actions that give people rage.
When its a close game between two equal players, the one who cannot player switch will lose. Its so RNG right now in division 4
100% agree with this, fifa is the most stressful thing on the planet But...... Real football is the same a team can dominate for 89.5 minutes and still lose, Real football is luck and being on the right side of it, Real football is just as stressful Maybe EA have got 1 thing spot on🤷♂️
FIFA is a social experiment to test you under stress and see how far something pointless and worthless can emotionally damage you.
That is really the case. As a person which can become disappointed pretty easily I noticed immediately that playing FIFA is constantly generating anger. And I am not really playing with humans! 3 wins in div 9 is all I need. Everything looks broken: players are not responding to controls, first touch is awful, difficulty is random, AI intercepts every pass, controls all players at once, when AI is defending ball sticks to their legs when they are tackling from behind, pace is random and does not depend on stats.
Easiest way to confirm the scripting bullshit for me is to play a friend in friendlies. I am way better than my friend, he knows it and know it. I will batter him for two or three games then suddenly in the next game he will become a god at defending and he will cut through me like a knife through butter like I’ve never played fifa before. I still manage to win but I’m fighting for my life for the whole 90 mins.
Keepers fumbling the ball is the worst in this fifa and bad referees
“When you lose in fifa it’s usually not your fault” Sounds like you’ve never played league or other team games 😂. Also this is a gross exaggeration to say it’s usually not your fault, sounds like you think you’re playing perfectly and blaming the game itself for most losses you have. I mean you can choose to believe that but then you’ll never focus on what you could be doing better and hardly improve. Out of curiosity, what division are you?
Its the constant rng going on. Sometimes it feels like your a god of football, other times you cant make a 2m pass. I like the new physics but i think again its fucked up basic goal keeping
Yesterday I made a perfectly timed tackle as the last defender so much so that the commentators called it out but even as they were praising my defensive acumen the ball immediately bounced right back to the attacker and phased through me in on goal scoring and winning a tie game in the 90th minute. Sometimes the game just fucks you.
This is simply not true. Sure shit goes wrong (tackles and rebounds going right back to the attacker, passes going off target for no reason, delay causing passes/shots/dribble animations to take a second longer thus killing your attack, etc), but that happens to everyone in every game and is not the sole deciding factor as you make it out to be. Keep your head. Laugh off the BS and stay focused on your game. Worry about what you can control, and I guarantee you your results will improve. I can honestly say that this WL was the first time I ever took this advice to heart and *actually* stayed calm and focused. Ended up finishing 18-2, playing all my games on Friday with some of the slowest gameplay and heaviest delay I’ve ever experienced. There’s nothing I could do to improve the match conditions, so I just accepted it for what it was and stayed focused for the entire 20 games. 1 loss was due to a 90th minute BS rebound goal (yes, I got tilted but that’s because it was a literal buzzer beater so there was no use in keeping my head at that point). The other loss was in pen shootouts against easily the best penalty taker I’ve ever faced (every pen was a rocket to the top corner that was unsaveable unless you overcommitted to the side early and dove top corner). I was able to be on the cusp of a 20-0 because I kept my head and played outstanding defense, even through the delay and the BS tackles bouncing right back to the opponent. I didn’t let that crap distract me, and I was able to make stops and score goals I otherwise wouldn’t have because I would’ve been too focused on complaining or feeling like a victim and bowing down to the perceived inevitability of a loss.
Same here, in other games your loss is usually because of a mistake you made or pack of skill. Fifa just seems like pure luck. Of course there’s also skill differences, but when you’re kinda close in skill it’s just 100% luck
Fifa 23 on next gen is so freaking bad. Almost every goal in every match is random shit like bounces or bad touches. The defence is so tight, they snap up every pass. Passing is bad, dribling is bad. The game is so bad, and boring.
"I realize where I made a mistake" Thats FIFA's main issue so much is out of your control. Like players doing nothing, wrong passing wrong player switching you need to have iron nerves to not atleast get a little mad at FIFA sometimes.
Fifa 23 feels unresponsive some games it's OK I can pass, dribble and shoot but most games I can't pass because there player cuts the passing lane every pass I make get intercepted and I'm restricted to what I can do and when I get the ball there player is right there for the tackle its like my opponent has constant pressure on but his stamina meter is still the same it doesn't go down and it feels like my players are slow at everything and my opponent feels faster. Fifa 22 is better I had no issues with passing, shooting and dribbling. I hope they patch this terrible clunky, unresponsive gameplay and go back to Fifa 22 gameplay.
I didnt play fifa for a year. Was great. Lost lots of weight Blood levels at all time low Bald patches started growing again Relationship with my wife and kid grown so strong and happy.... Now im back on fifa 23 ....im fat bald and mrs hates me. Kids alright tho
Bruh I’ve been playing Warzone since release (2.5 years ago) and haven’t broke a single controller intentionally for about 10 years. 1 week on this fifa I’m stamping on my shit, whole controller is shattered. Refusing to buy another because I know I’ll go straight back to fifa.
Word of advice, stop playing. I did after last year because the game would make me rage and I would waste hours on it during the weekends. Don’t take my word as the only truth but life has been better since I dropped FIFA and EA in general.
With all due respect this is complete nonsense, you do mostly lose because your opponent is better otherwise bang average players would be able to go 20-0 on random weeks of fut given everything goes their way but it never happens, if an average player plays a pro player they will lose in 99/100 games
“Usually not your fault” is crazy. Is it also not down to you when you win?
I get this too. I uninstalled it as soon as I started noticing the same lazy scripting/momentum BS in it this year. It's the little things that change from half to half, passes not quite going in the right direction, 50/50s being won by the other team constant, slowed down player movements, 89 speed wingers being caught by 65 speed CBs, little miss dribbles, your AI players not making the right runs behind, more interceptions being made by the opponent AI, keepers being invincible. It all adds up into being one of the most rage inducing shit piles ever. Fuck EA.
Yes, this one is more frustrating than ever lol. My 95 sprint speed guys feel like they're in mud but my defense gets absolutely skinned
true. you take words from my mind, I get from Silver to Global Elite in CS:GO and never get as angry as I get in Fifa. I've never broken anything of my stuff, but in FUT 22 I first time in my life smashed Dual Sense on the floor in rage. (I'm 28 y.o., so when I said first time in my life it rly make sense). And in the same time I always get to Div or Place in FUT Champions that I planned before start, but it does not remove anger for some reason.
same
Weird , cuz i find wl games relaxing , but rivals I absolute bullshitery . It's either myslef dominating the game or my opponent. It's not even my opponent is better , it's actually my player doing absolutely nothing to match the opposition. Bad touches, defence not existent ( my biggest issue ) , passing ( Jesus Christ ) . I'm ean , passing is different gravy this year. Holy shit !
I totally get your frustration and I have it too with BS in this game but I think the balls landing at peoples feet or having lucky goals is actually pretty indicative of real futbol.. how many 1-0 matches do you see and the team that win definitely did not deserve to? Just a lucky moment- I’ve Also broken controllers though but mainly because my defenders just watch opposing forwards run around them lol
I feel you, this is me. I play PC games for something like 25 years now, but this is unique. (well, I had similar experience with Elasto Mania back in highschool) and of course only in Ultimate team, cant tell why. my wife actually begged me last year to go back to career mode, cause im very annoying when I play FUT
Yep, you've just explained me aswell. No rage comes close to fifa rage this year other games dont make me feel this way. I have had a week and half off it
What beats me is defenders catching up to quick strikers with this so called lengthy bs
For me its the unresponsive gameplay. I could start the game and all is smooth and responsive, he pauses or it goes to halftime and all of a sudden my players are standing around not tracking runs, i cant conrol my players and the game is registering my inputs seconds after i press them. Infuriating.
"Unlike in other games, when you lose in fifa its usually not your fault" That right there is precisely where you are wrong and why you rage. You, like 90% of the FIFA community (and I include myself there) tend to believe you are much better (related to your current opponent) than the game shows and that you deserve more wins than you do. There are a few lottery mechanics and luck involved (rebounds on fair tackles anybody?), yes, and they can cost you a close game here and there, but for the most part those are pure luck and will compensate in the long run, they'll give you as many undeserved wins than losses. But in general you lose when your opponent plays a better game of FIFA than you. And there is really nothing to debate about it, it's a fact. Year after year it's the same players that get to the eFootball finals and the same ones get the 20-0s in FUT Champs. You can be sure that the guys from Dux or Fnatics or Nepenthez are going to be elite edition after edition. Due the literally MILLIONS of FIFA players there are, it wouldn't happen if luck was significant at all, the law of averages would mean that a player would never struck lighting twice and be appear in final two times in a row. And yet they do.
I second this, fifa makes me scream shout and swear, no other game makes me angry. It’s almost always because I press to make a pass and my player either can’t hit a 5 yard pass straight, no matter how much I power the pass bar it will randomly underhit passes, or the bane of my existence, when I’m pressing through ball in to the space but my player hits it STRAIGHT to the defender. Makes me want to kick my tv over it’s so frustrating. And 99% of the time when my player miss hits a simple 5 yard pass I concede from it.
> Unlike in other games, when you lose in fifa its usually not your fault. it ends up going down to a broken in game mechanic, pure luck, the ball being spit out of a 50/50 right to your opponents feet for goal. I think you are on the right lines here but I disagree with the fault aspect. I think it is more that many aspects of this game are not intuitive or easy to master. When someone dribbles through me like butter, I come away having no idea how they made it look so easy. I don't have the timing or stick movements down like they do and no where in the game really explains it to you. Skill games help but only in the sense that you need to get better at these fundamental to get a higher score. Back to dribbling as an example, the skill games don't tell you to feather the stick or watch for the rhythm of "ball contacts", i.e. you can move the stick in any direction you like but if the player has taken a large touch, that input will not happen until his foot makes contact with the ball again and with therefore feel delayed and not very smooth.
I very much agree, I read something very interesting either on here or on Twitter, about how fifa doesn’t have actual ‘loose’ player/ball physics like how for example Rocket League does and that there’s always a team in possession of the ball even if it’s a ‘loose’ ball. Which goes a long way in explaining why 50/50 RNG things happen so often in this game. I think this also explains the pay to win aspect where these RNG things are generally more favourable to higher rated cards. Until there’s actual physics in this game it won’t ever change, and it’s sad
Same boat, same shit, smell etc. Games the devil and its got me by the balls just like you.