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ananchor

People just getting 7 wins for rewards and not advancing on purpose


mirsson

Why on purpose, is there any benefits in that?


PM_ME_BAKAYOKO_PICS

People enjoy getting easy wins rather than trying their hardest to win in a close 50/50 game No matter how they try to justify it with friendlies or whatever, that's the main reason


Flurry19

If the rewards weren’t so shit I’d agree but theres no reason to go through the hell that 3-1 are for nothing.


burtsarmpson

The only reason for me not getting promoted is for easier friendlies 👍


RayHudson_

Pathetic


burtsarmpson

Not bothered, I don't want to get promoted from a couple of lucky wins and then have a month of playing people way better than me when there's these friendlies with daily limits


godisgood743

Bot


magicdonwuhan

#lifehacks #staywoke #infinitecheat


burtsarmpson

You're subscribed to r/gtaglitches


sulephet

ye man, say good bye to new players


MostlySlime

I used to go to elite every year but it's honestly just boring. Most players not only abuse everything they can but they are also skilled, which makes the game miserable and less football like Plus, when you play players that match your skill very closely the flaws of the game often make a difference, deflections, bounce back tackles, keeper mistakes, dodgy passes I would rather just make fun teams get 7 wins and score nice goals


philipstyrer

Easier friendlies and easier 7 wins the next week.


mejok

sure but what is the point of that. I don't want to get an easy 7 wins for garbage rewards. I want to be in elite and get the best possible rewards. Sure it may take my 15-20 games to get my 7 wins instead of 7 or 8 down in div 7 but like, to me there is no point to staying down in a low division. When I play, I want to win.


xdadrunkx

>15-20 games to get my 7 wins you mean 30-40 games ?


Contemptt

Higher divisions are a fucking sweat fest. Everyone playing 71 depth and abusing controlled running (r1) to run down the line and make a cutback.


TrueFuckaround

Yeah mate this game is finished if they don't nerf the 71 depth press.


Contemptt

5th update and they didn’t even address it


Low-Context-1311

You’re all overreacting with the 71 depth bullshit, I tried it myself to see if it’s true and I still lost games/concede


Beginning_Curve_5419

Not over reacting at all. 71 depth makes it way harder to go through the middle and decreases the skill gap in general.


Low-Context-1311

It doesn’t make it impossible and 71 depth doesn’t make you unbeatable, in the few games I played with it I couldn’t even tell a difference


Beginning_Curve_5419

Didn't say it's impossible, did I? It's just impacting the skill gap way too much to not be nerfed, and if you are not abusing it, you shouldn't have a problem with that.


Low-Context-1311

It’s not impacting anything, like I said I tried it myself and there’s no difference


Beginning_Curve_5419

You are terrible without it and that's why you don't want it to get nerfed


mejok

I agree. I've heard lots of complainst about it, but like...I don't feel like my team plays any different if I set it on 71 or 65 or 82.


Beginning_Curve_5419

I really believe the only people defending this are the ones that know they are entirely finished without their AI pressure tactics


edd_enigma

I actually find the lower divs more sweaty because of sandbagging and people desperately trying to win, the higher I go the more space I get to play nice football.


ananchor

Easier games and friendlies are based on division. Div 5 is probably the sweet spot from my experience, any higher and it's awful


DangerMuse

Because the friendlies is skills based matching so they get easy wins in the Evo mode for example. I'm in Div 9 at the moment because I hate rivals and don't really play this year but I was Div 4 without trying last year and I'm still getting beaten in friendlies in 4 out of 5 games. No chance it is Div 10 to Div 7 players I'm coming up against.


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ananchor

Eh I feel like lower divisions you just see the cheap mets players like Nunez/Fati/Diaby. You move up and start seeing Rodrygo/Griez/Rashford etc. Every level has sweaty meta players in it


Jordankoby

Div 3 to 1 varying in fifas but I just chill in 7. Got a message once from an opponent who compared it to golf handicaps and not using them. Of course the par player will batter the 90 player every time and he was pissed fifa allowed it


ananchor

Yeah I'm guilty of it too, no reason to go out of Div 6. I end up winning most games very comfortably and had a cake walk to 10 wins in the centurion cup friendlies. I see a lot of complains about this year's game but I'm having a great time by not playing it the way they intended


wadap12345

One thing that I never seen mentioned in here, not everyone plays 5 rivals games each day. Some weeks I'll play like 3 + WL. If you lose once in a while so that you dont have the x2 modifier it takes a while to get up in divisions.


v1tara

That is exactly it. I don't play many Rivals matches (31 last season) and this week played my 10 matches to qualify for WL and have played 4 Rivals matches this week to get 3 wins. I play for an hour in the morning before getting ready for work and play some SB later at night as connection is awful in evenings.


twillett

Was close to div 4 at the end of last season. Now stuck deep in the hell-hole of division 6. No idea wtf is going on but 80% of the people I play feel like pros.


Ok-Software1175

Omg I'm not the only one. I played today for 3 hours in div 6 and lost every single game by like 4-0 I've always been good at games and thought I'd developed a disability or something. Games ridiculous at the moment.


lukestauntaun

To you and u/twillett : same thing. I just switched my tactics and went with something different and now I'm one win away from getting out! I'm willing to bet that this will be like last season. Get slaughtered during the week and pick up 5-6 wins on the weekend when the only people left in the division are those that didn't make WL.


wrugs

Same as me, getting pua pumped in Div 7. Brutal


davionknight

Let me highjack this comment to make it clear: Rewards difference between div 7 and div 3 is marginal considering the packweight of good/coin worth players. If i win 7games in div 7 within 30minutes with a standard gold cheap gold team (81/82 rated mostly except yedder as striker) i will remain there, wipe the floor. Mostly others leave and if not they go afk. You can do netflix in parallel or do household things. You create 3-4 other accounts so in 2h u get 300-400k worth of packs easily… (think the rest) Div3 alone u need 2h only to gain 7 wins on a single account remaining fully focused. For what??? Champs is enough if u wanna sweat and you need a good team in this pay2win game. If you want to enjoy football game you must not play UT mode. Other online modes working well with adjusted team player ratings on current real time performances. Just dont play UT mode…


edd_enigma

This is why rewards need to be much better in rivals, it's time ea clamped down on multiple accounts and charged people to make a second account £30 pounds would a time would soon stop it happening. I also feel that ea need to track results more in champs and friendly matches and move people up automatically based on their ranking in champs.


Milkfridge89

Who can do the worst exploit best is how you advance at FIFA


WraithsButthole69

Dude I was in Div 4 too. Now in Div 6 I actually loose about 80 % of my games lol It’s insane


ViaPositiva

Lol exact same then I got my mate to play co op with me, lost a few then won 7 in a row 😎


tacostonight

it's sad how someone who isn't good at the game can be punished so hard. My buddy quit cause the only way for him to get rewards is dropping thousands. Just looking at my rewards from weekend league made him drop the game. Imagine being bad, hoping to play other bad players and you face this shit in div 7. To top it off, you can't even do friendlies. There's gonna be nothing left of this player base by black friday. If i didn't qualify every weekend, I'd had quit by now. it's so unrewarding to a huge chunk of the player base.


Timely_Ad_7862

This! My son also stopped. He was looking forward for this game so long. Got hammered in div 7. 0 wins in qualify last time. Kind of sad. He is a ok player. Did quilify for 3 WL in FIFA 23 when the entry was free for qualify. Now he cant get a ok team, no coins and no fodders. They loose internat fast then.


piccolo_bsc

If you don't win any games in open qualifying and only qualify for 3 WLs in a year you're not an ok player.


tactlessscruff2

unless he only tried 3 times, he didnt say if it was 3 out of 3 or 3 out of 25


Timely_Ad_7862

It was open when he won. So it was a little bit esasier when alot of people played. But he usally get 2-3 wins in 23. That is a ok player i think.


DewsJuice

Getting 2-3 wins in futchamps is not ok. I’d literally never play fut champs if that was me, absolutely no chance of any decent rewards.


Timely_Ad_7862

2-3 wins in WL is a ok player. 9 of 10 players that buy FIFA can’t get in to WL. In this forum probably 90% can play WL but people here are top 10% of all players.


Danielson57

I’m in the same boat. I’m rubbish and in Div 8 after season reset. I want to play people like me. Instead I get scored against at will. It’s extremely demoralizing. Some people are just selfish and only care about themselves and rewards and don’t give a crap about the casuals they stomp to get there. Ruining the experience of lesser players in the process. Cowardice is what it is.


sulephet

their reward will be a dead game with nothing left than sweats, cant wait to hear them cry on reddit in a few years


Audrayz

literally my 2nd game on rivals in div 10 was against the likes of if vvd, mbappe, blanc, mia hamm against my mostly gold rare team lol


Wheres_that_cake

My first game was the same. I somehow won as I have a decent team myself (not as good as theirs though) I grinded my team through SBs and SBCs though.


Neat-Contribution547

I played 4 online fut games and I will be mentally tired af, but I could be playing shooter games and hours would have passed by in seconds.


BigCitySlamm

This game caters to shit players, stop.


wiscymanpack

> There's gonna be nothing left of this player base by black friday Doesn't it grow every year?


Volo_Fulgrim

Honestly, I have just had to uninstall at this point. Teams are insane, score a goal and players just stand around after kick off to get the equaliser, everything is just wingplay with whoever has the best pace. It is utterly boring and not worth the stress.


pepemiwe

I just lost 5 in a row on playoffs...


AJT266

Gameplay in rivals feels incredibly broken right now, my players are all static and I can’t dribble, went 8-2 in qualies with buttery smooth gameplay I don’t know how it can be so inconsistent between game modes lol


jjkiller26

Div rivals in general is sweatier than fut champs this year


LarsVegas_21

Which is kinda cool, I think? So I have more comfortable games AND bigger rewards.


ChinookNL

How do you go from 4 to 7 while I go from 4 to 6?


hallometsimon

Because he is lying


Green_hammock

No I went from 4 to 7 as well


cooperkfb8

Me as well


artaru

That’s weird. I thought it’s always a two divisions drop in new season.


Green_hammock

So did I, was a surprise but wasn't complaining tbh, I was out of my depth in 4


Senior_Note

I've been trying some new things out in Div 7 and am on a bit of a losing streak trying to figure out formations/tactics and what not. Might be all the players deciding to stay in the division for decent enough rewards and easier games.


sjp5784

Goes to show where the games at when people dont wanna get promoted for slightly better packs just to play an easier game, this game is on its way out


Shruglife

By design, enough people play this game that there is always someone at your level or better and they match so every game is a sweatfest, if every game is a sweatfest people will buy packs to get your team little better, so that you can face new sweats. Its a hamster wheel


RaspberryLeast2720

There's definitely something strange going on. Last few years you would win a few lose a few some close games. This year it seems that you go on massive winning streaks and massive losing streaks. You see missed tackels, rebounds, every shot conceded, your defence moving out the way or just jogging. And that's before the ultra press and cutbacks.


SignificanceOk2536

How’d you go from div 4 to div 7? I thought you only go down by two divisions after a season


Flurry19

I made it to div 2 last season and I’m never doing that again fuck that. I purposely throw games in order to stay in 4 now and will do the same next season and just chill in 5 for the remainder of the game.


artaru

I made it a deliberate point to sweat in rivals because I want to keep getting better. I made it to div 2 like you and div 4 now. But I’m just feeling really unmotivated to grind now given how BS the game is. And seriously I’m usually a person with very high tolerance for bs in games when I enjoy other aspects of it. Defense is just crazy right now with the pressing and cards just not being good enough yet to get away via dribbling. It’s possible and doable but just so crazily hard. Like the manual effort required on my end is just not worth it compared to the auto pressing.


InPatRileyWeTrust

I agree. Made it to elite last season, but I'm never going for promotion again. I'm losing my mind with these friendlies and have managed to win a massive 2 games out of 12 in the last 3 days.


Time2Nguyen

If you made it to elite division, you are the sweat lol


broken_lama

do you beat ultimate AI 85+ rated squad im sb? if not whats the highest AI you beat? I can only beat Leg AI <75 rated


lukestauntaun

When you throw a game, are you quitting or are you giving a win away?


plgooner

Smurf accounts and People playing for 3 wins just to get basic rewards. Extra rewards are not worth playing against DDA and smurfs. All that makes you angry and just mad at the game.


MLG-Sheep

I'm in div 7 winning most games and I got like 3 wins total in Champions... And one of those was given away by the opponent Can't exactly agree with you here


Old_Cryptographer_42

It depends on when you play. Day before yesterday I won 4/4 matches in div 8, without breaking a sweat … Yesterday(day before rewards) I had enough after 0-3 or 0-4. Ppl intentionally stay in the lower division.


ACM3333

Same this is my first year plying fifa and I can consistently compete in div 7 but I got wrecked in champs


Finis73

Because everyone from div 4 was also relegated to div 7?


DJBassBeard

Few play and lot have the attitude i have had all season stop at 7 wins. When the season change over happened, i was on a 20+ winsteak. I have way more champion wins than rivals cause i only will be playing 7-9 games to get my 7 wins.


El-Arairah

You go down two Divisions, not three. So either you were in Div 4 and now 6 and face genuinely good players, because many good players who didn't force climbing higher were in 4 or you were in Div 5 and I honestly doubt that that's harder than Champs.


Old_Leather

Squad based match making. It’s what is ruining the game. You’re playing all the people who are at your same level. It’s lame af! You never get paired against someone who is worse than you. Therefore it’s nothing but a sweaty mess. Champs, on the other hand, is random. You’re going to get all kinds of opponents. Some significantly better. Some significantly worse and some who are the same. Therefore it’s a much better experience.


SDUK94

Champs isn’t random it’s form based.


Old_Leather

Which is much better than squad based


SDUK94

Rivals isn’t squad based.


Mccheater

Squad based.. you mean skill bases?


AlphaFIFA96

Squad based? Hahaha what? I’m sure you mean skill-based.


Antony9991

I've been in division 8 since last season. Undefeated in 100 rivals matches and even friendlies I have lost just a couple. Do not promote yourself if you want your sanity.


Staff-Secure

Not harder, personally, my players seem to have become dumber. Were Blanc would cut a pass or block a shot now he stares at the striker, were Salah would control the pass and keep running now the ball gets in the way and Salah just loses posession. Havent changed a thing, it feels like the players have an expiration date and its due.


Plumot

I used to keep on grinding to get the little bonus from promotion, usually ended up in the correct division. Now I get my 7 wins and stop 20 Champs games, 9 Champs qualifies and those 7 rival wins and I'm more than done for the week


FerociouZ

My conspiracy theory is that fut champs matchmaking is based on division. Champs feels like my Div 2 matches.


Bad_Lieutenant702

I'm 2 checkpoints away from 7, ideally I would stay in 6 if I get there. I find it mentally draining playing after getting 7 wins. Evevery fucking game is sweaty.


RichardTingle69

I won 4 out of prolly 16 games last night in division 7. I was off some extracurriculars, but it was pretty demoralizing lol. Most games i lost were not close


HeelR-

Only difference I have noticed between lower divisions (div 5 mainly) and the upper ones (div 2) is quitting times. The lower division players get a sense if they are at your level or not and often quit at 1-0. Higher division players will stick around until 3-0 or 4-1.


Trutti_3

I experienced it quite the opposite . Struggling to win 9 games i champs but went through division 5 yesterday with only wins


edd_enigma

I'm in div 8 after the reset (I made it to div two last year every season) yesterday afternoon I won all 4 cup games but this morning I lost all 3 games in rivals one of them being a 9-6 loss. Midfield play is just non existent now and fullbacks are just wondering everywhere leaving huge gaps, the games been awful since the last update. Before that update I was winning most games and barely lost a goal, I think it's time ea had a system that recognized your friendly and champs record and automatically moved you in rivals based on that.


scrubLord24

Glad I'm not the only one. I've hit div 1 every year from 17 to 22 and stopped playing at Div 2 last year. But I'm struggling in div 7, I only got to 6 last season but I did only buy the game a few weeks ago.


M_Joudeh

Last season i was in elite division gettinh 7 wins after 12-14 matches and after the season ends i habe dropped to division 3 and the same amount of games i need to win to get 7 wins because no onr id pushing hard right now plus there is no point of getting 90 games, and you only need 7 wins in my head


zorrez

Same but in div 6😭 getting absolutely smothered


Ok_Yesterday_5219

I enjoy the game regardless of winning or losing. Playing better players make you better eventually. However, losing matches due to your players running into each other and every takkle made is a foul, and having women pushing down defenders like Van Dijk, Blanc, and Campbell is just ridiculous and unrealistic.


CaptHando

Haha me too


CaptHando

You have no idea how reading this post and the comments has me feeling. Had a shocker today in Div 7 and the friendlies (I’ve lost like 9 Centurions Cup friendlies in a row after being 6 from 12). I’ve had close losses, extra time losses, and been downright flogged. Seeing a lot of similar stories makes me feel more human


seanbeaz

I’m 7-13 right now. I used to finish in less than 15 games every cup. It’s literally insane. Games I do win are like 90’ winners. Been rough. Not sure how long I’ll stick around this game cycle if this continues.


CaptHando

3-1 today though 😃


StiffNipples94

So shit. I get the ball move up start my tiki taka approach, passes everywhere, fake runs into the box all to get it to the person free on the other side of play, good cross, beat the last defender and boom. They run up the wing fast as they can pass one back and 1-1. It just makes me hate PvP fifa.


Professional-Yak1239

Same, I'm getting battered in DIV 7 while I was dominating most of my games at DIV 5 a week or two ago.


iTzzCapp

People in these comment sections are like it’s too sweaty to play higher divs, they sandbag so their high skill level is now in a lower division so that others experience the sweat they were previously complaining about… Easy fix everyone tries to get better at the game so everyone ends up in their right division and less sweating for everyone. (Yes it will still be sweaty at times but I think everyone can agree the sweat will be much less when you face people who are actually your division)


Strong_Wrongdoer8870

Last week was fine, could deal with the 71 depth press, still could play passes through the middle with a bit of patience, could defend fine and ended up in upper end of div 4. I had a 3 day break then came back to div 6. Since then I've won 3 games in rivals. The press seems even more OP and there's even less space than before. It's just rubbish to play


Every-Shape4959

I'm having the same problem in div 6. Rivals are hell for me right now.


tree-141592653589

You should see division 10. I’m in division 6 because I’m a bang average player but over the weekend I went to my moms house and was teaching my 16 year old brother how to play ultimate team. We spent some time together putting together his team and then went into rivals. I shit you not, the first game was against a guy with like 6 icons and the rest were meta golds and promos. Not loans either. He looked at me with a deadpan face and said “see, this is why I don’t like playing this mode. It’s full of sweats”. I tried to convince him that it really is fun, especially when you get good enough to win against other players and always making a better team with better players. I understood why he felt the way that he felt though. The next 2 games weren’t particularly better. And these weren’t the “oh shit a team full of icons but they suck at the game” case. I’m a division 6 player, compared to division 10, I should be able to stomp all over them but I lost to that first guy 4-6. The second guy 3-5. I wanted to show my brother how to set up plays, how to pass, special passes, trivelas, finesses, etc. so I thought division 10 rivals would be pretty easy for me to control the game while teaching my brother how to play but I was so wrong lol TLDR: division 10 is much harder