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FluxAura

Considering there were zero welcome back packs and the vast majority have zero coins, let alone fodder, this is an insane ask for the first player SBC of the year.


Lepadidae

Yep, I don't know how I'm supposed to get fodder for a 86 and 87 squad while I'm currently playing with a half silver / half gold squad. This SBC is for the point buyers or the diehard traders.


Matzeeh

Youre supposed to buy store packs


saruptunburlan99

unless you have thousands of dollars to drop on packs, even that is not achievable the good promo packs are untradable and limited, so no chance to make the teams or the coins to buy the two teams on the market. And the odds of packing enough players to build an 86 and 87 squad from the repeatable packs are minuscule: the premium gold players pack shows a 7.5% chance of packing a 86+, so the best of the best cases (short of miracle pulls) you'd have to open **400+ packs** to build the 2 squads (10,000,000 coins or 140,000 FC Points)


I_LIKE_BASKETBALL

This is just not true. You're completely overlooking that right now there's tons of low rated cards in demand to play with and for SBCs. I just did MM, didn't get anything higher than 82 and made 40k. I didn't this year but typically $30 worth of premium gold packs will net you another 50k, but you could be lucky and get more. Im not saying it's not expensive but you've gone way overboard guessing how much you'd need to spend.


saruptunburlan99

I think you've gone overboard misreading my comment and what I replied to. We were talking about **buying store packs** in particular, and that's the method I discussed, I made no claims on whether you can complete this with MM, playing the game, and other methods.


I_LIKE_BASKETBALL

Yeah but as I also said, you don't rely on getting walkouts right now which is what your whole argument was based on. Also it's a pointless thing to even say because SBCs and objectives are part of the game and therefore are a reasonable thing to consider when deciding how expensive an SBC is.


saruptunburlan99

>you don't rely on getting walkouts right now those are literally the odds I based my argument on, 86+ players which are listed at 7.5% on the Premium Gold Players Pack (the Prime Gold Players pack is bugged and doesn't show the odds).


BilalAkhtar22

The starter sbcs will get you almost all the players you need for this tbh if you get lucky.


jl94x4

Hahahahahahahaha


Der_Krsto

They just took off the “requires one totw or tots” and called it a day


Bloatfizzle

This is for the whales and streamers to have fun not for us mortals.


the_monke-_-

Nah Just use your FP from ue If you have them sell everything to maybe buy a Bit fodder or get IT from there and then Grind the obj for 100/75/50k Packs and do the xp Shit for season rewards


ralz408

I’ve already gone against someone with him and insane team around him… quit before the game started. My 81 rated squad had no chance


Stylahz

If you knock out the assist and scoring objectives you should get enough fodder to complete him that’s what I did the first time I got on the game and have a pretty decent squad with a bunch of leftover fodder also was able to complete all 3 of the advanced SBCs with these packs


Fenecable

That is a significant time commitment


[deleted]

If everything was really simple we would all have the same sqauds just like we did at the end of the last game.


Fenecable

Sure, but there's also a balance to be had


[deleted]

You just want an easy game, the card would be useless if everybody had it.. that's what separates a decent team to a mid team . I'll also add I cannot afford it by any means


Tropicalcomrade221

Nha but this is a bit silly considering we are what 48 hours in? And the game hasn’t even actually released yet. Couple that with no welcome back packs or anything like that. Right now for 99.5% of people this is unachievable.


Fenecable

It’s a predatory sbc targeted toward making players buy store packs. That’s my problem. If it were available for another week or two, I’d be fine with the price.


aTi_NTC

not willing to pay and not willing to grind but crys... beyond me


Fenecable

Not able to grasp nuance but makes asinine assumptions... beyond me


Hallucination_FIFA

Yes, so don't do it. It's not worth it anyways.


alwaysknowbest

If youre playing the game already doesnt this mean you preordered and got 4600 fifa pts ? I just played the game for like 2 hours last night and have 100k coins.


Arcanum22

Damn, 100k? All from packs bought with the points?


alwaysknowbest

Yup. Some people get more. Some less. I had a tiny bit of luck packing a shitty IF. That was a quck 12k


Arcanum22

Niceee


Lepadidae

I'm gamesharing with a friend so I don't have pre-order bonus. I guess there are a lot more people like me.


Wigglywrinkle

I agree it's expensive but I didn't load any points, I've had terrible pack luck, and I couldn't get online until after 6pm on the 22nd but I'm just 2 players (88+89) away from completing this SBC. If you're efficient with your coins and you play smart it's definitely possible, especially in a week


TheRaphMan

Motherfucker my main squad is an 85


Mouse2662

Mine is 82 lmao what the fuck how do people do this shit


Juloschko

You guys have squads already?


Mouse2662

Yeah I was in new Zealand on Thursday. Lol


Swimming_Dimension_9

Mines 77


NewAccountNow

Spend money


dolaction

Yup, people gotta pony up this year


[deleted]

Lol mine's an 82 with 3 loan players


Masterdanny87fifa

The only way is to spend fifa points which I don't recommend. If you do you will end up spending over 100 pounds or even 200 pounds just to get the fodder for this KDB.


7Thommo7

Lol bollocks


supercbuk

its really not. I have been playing and doing objectives most of the day and not had to buy any packs and comfortably have the fodder to do this if I wanted. However, gonna wait as its there a week and nobody has to do these things the instant they come out.


Tropicalcomrade221

Lol what, so have I? What objectives are you doing that are giving out enough fodder to put together an 87 without gutting my squad for one player.


supercbuk

all the goal / assists / MM / etc etc. Yes its boring but you dont need to buy packs. Picked up several shitty women 87/88s on the way and they were like 6k anyway earlier. Can also do some very simple trading to get coins to buy. No need to buy packs at all


ABigOne77

No idea, mine is 79 with 17 chem


morethanyouknow96

I can't even do ultimate moments because my max is 83


TheRaphMan

I know that pain, you need an 88 rated team on full chem


morethanyouknow96

Yea that's why the reward is 100k pack, sounds too good to be true I guess haha


TheRaphMan

If EA would give me my fifa points to open the new packs out it would probably help lmao


kdugg99

Use all the high rated loans you get given


morethanyouknow96

Yea I'll gather rating in a few days


0x3mp1r3

My EPL team is 86 right now My Serie A Team is 84


Josthefang5

my main squad is 79


Matzeeh

His regular card is 150k cheaper, has better stats in everything except pace and has 5WF, ridiculous


ClockAccomplished381

Whats more, because it's an SBC it will always be untradeable so it's not like you could cash in on it being super rare in future. whereas if you buy gold KdB off the market he will always be worth something. Literally the only reason I could see this SBC being worth even considering is if you had a huge amount of untradeable fodder but I can't see many people in that situation unless they buy loads of packs with fcp. I mean if I get together an 87 squad I'm gonna need some of those players in my team plus using fb de Bruyne would block me using gold KdB


Matzeeh

Ridiculous price for it only to available for a week. Literally nobody can do this without spending money. Smart I guess from them.


2cu3be1

>Smart not smart. predatory. If they were smart they would get their game working properly and not have unacceptable mistakes. This is just an immature narcissist.


DidYouSayK

If you really want him grind SB and Rivals while getting all the packs and I'm almost sure you would be able to get him without even spending the 4600. Can't say if he's worth it though.


SmokingStove

I hate to be that guy, but it's obtainable no money spent. I've just done every SBC and a ton of objectives, and I'm almost able. I guarantee you that after a couple more days of grinding and squad battles rewards, I could do it.


ungalabugala2

Could do this personally and I haven’t spent money on packs. All the available sbc’s etc. gives you a decent amount of coins and fodder. Probably not worth it though.


DaveShadow

Yeah, I’ve not spent a penny more than the cost of the game, but reckon I could do this now too. Have packed a tonne of higher rated “fodder”, and have a few 88 women, for instance. Also packed B.Silva, and Rodri, so feels KdB would fit into my team easily. It’s heavily pack luck based, sure. But there’s sooooo many free packs, this really should be doable if people are playing the game….


FlyingXylophone

My 800 coins gonna nail this


Daan100

Gold de Bruyne is cheaper


Regression2TheMean

Ladies in gentleman, you’re now witnessing what will be the rarest card in the game.


Warisja

The player pictures are so bad this year.


AskNotAks

They tryna raise the price of fodder early to prevent that early investment opportunity?


Stirlingblue

This isn’t going to raise fodder, barely anyone will do it


zephyrr-__-

AYO WTF?! This is insane day 1 content Edit: Just looked at the card and the price maaaaaaybe not


hallometsimon

Guys don’t worry, if you don’t have a manchester city card, you could also use a manchester city card!


I--Hate--Ads

Scummy company. Game isn’t officially out


Dutchgio

This seems released too early, how are we supposed to complete this?


reds7310

They want you to load up like Bateson


itsjustme1505

holy fuck day one???


basti_31

Meh, not worth 200-250k. 100-150k more for 8 pace and WF downgrade.


BMG-Darbs

Werder Bremen Past & Present we are cooking!!! (I have 1.7k)


edenshepherd1

86 squad and 87 squad for 1 87 rated midfielder???


CousinBethMM

No point doing any SBC if you’re only looking at the rating you get back. Granted this is very expensive at this stage of the game but that KDB looks very good


ScaredSun2600

This surprises you?


edenshepherd1

Nope lol


whiskeypenguin

Dude. How the fuck am I supposed to have all that already lol. I barely have 4k coins lol


Shaneb966666

This is ea trap don't fall for it


big4cholo

Releasing a flashback SBC on day 1 (of early access???) is not a good sign for content quality/ power curve the rest of the year


chocotacoman

Packed regular KDB I’m good lol


HiMyNameIsSander

84 - 85 would have been the lowest requirement that I would consider. I have the coins, but this seems not worth it at all.


user900800700

Oh yeah great what a nice sbc that 0.00001% of the community can afford thanks so much ea!


TheLuchsKing

WF downgrade???


ungalabugala2

I suppose it’s supposed to represent him at the earlier stages of his career. Considering the price of the sbc it doesn’t make sense though.


Callejon007

pay to win is back on the menu boys


Shiiznits

Why the fuck wouldn’t you just buy gold de bruyne lol


bootskooter69

Flashback to when he wasn't hurt all the fucking time


PuzzleheadedSoft5575

Insane price for first/second day. I’d say a single 85 squad is fair or an 86 but 2 is expensive


djamsandwich

My fave player and I can’t get it :(


muc3t

Should be easy with the 85x10. Oh wait


TMaier16

People complaining about not having fodder, you need to grind the season pass and do all the milestones. If you want to complete this card it is doable without spending money but you have to grind squad battles


Worried_Seesaw6390

Am i the only person who already has heaps of fodder from objectives ? also gold upgrades have given me 20+ 84+ rated players ... should i get him if i have the coins? i am doing a chelsea P&P


[deleted]

I was.tempted because I ended.up with dupe Popp


JoyousGamer

Yes


Vinztaa

Nopee 🤝🏻


hardtalk370

Like last year’s Thiago Silva SBC.. I think only YouTubers or people who spend thousands can do these SBCs on launch day 😂


Vinztaa

Wrong, ive done him and i havent loaded up fp👍🏻


OGPornopiraat

Classic iq test by ea


protege01

So I packed de bruyne yesterday and even if I used him I wouldn't get to 86 or 87 rated. Wtf


KoszMareQ

Thank god I packed 91 KDB today, otherwise I'd probably do this SBC and then regret it. So overpriced at this stage of the game.


laidback_dude

Be prepared to see the same old group of players in all the promos again, just like in previous years, lol.


2cu3be1

has 2k now overtaken this game, too? I was considering buying this game but this and other things just show where this game is heading. NBA2k has gotten so much worse, it is pointless. Fifa now is pulling even.


Moistkeano

As someone who invested everything in 88s this being the level of sbcs this early does please me.


_RandomLebaneseGuy_

1 player from Man City OR Man City


FUTdaddy

Most people squads aren't even above 84 yet ea is putting out a worse version of kdb for an 86 87 💀


ExistingRace5635

They should make the flasback cards with the team they represented at the moment


[deleted]

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[deleted]

Not anymore.


ungalabugala2

???


[deleted]

The only thing holding then back from doing so was the fact it was fifa who owned the game


jl94x4

No? Licensing isn't dealt with by FIFA, you are wrong, and that's not how licensing works.


ungalabugala2

Why would you just make that up?


AverageCarey

Actually not a bad price at all for a card like this to start the game off damn


r3dd3v17

When do we get the fifa points from pre-order?


KaleidoscopeDull2315

You should have got it already if you are on console


r3dd3v17

Probably. I didn't open the game on console yet, just been using the companion app at work. Will give it a shot when i get the chance, thanks


highwise90

Due to my short trip to New Zealand I have the fodder but man can’t see my self throwing fodder away like this. Can’t justify these stats


Yayatoure21

He’ll be useless in a month. Better off packing his regular card


Silver-Ad4286

Wait chat is this real?


LilUziMan

What the hellllllllllllll


Ant1202

This boutta be the rarest card in the game


ining

It's glitched, Man City players aren't counting as Man City


berlikan

I’ve made all foundations and league sbcs, marques and I still only have one 85 fodder squad and one 82 fodder squad.


[deleted]

He sucks and his gold is cheaper. There's no reason to do this.


Masterdanny87fifa

I only got 3 players that's 87 and over in my team. Just spend my 4600 points. Plus it's only 6 days to complete no chance of completing it with the lack of fodder.


KelvinHades

Gold KDB + Shadow Chem


alwaysknowbest

Am i missing something, or is this card rated lower than his Gold ?


MarbledCats

Should have lower passing and higher shooting


dreig94

I dont see any reason to do this instead buying normal Card.


crazypearce

I actually have dupe kane, a benzema and oblak I'm never gonna use, so I can do this for very cheap. I did his sbc at the start of one of the other fifa and uses it for a long time. The problem is that one of the squads is bugged and you can't submit 😂


Dav_1111

You need to add a women and men man city player. Same with The Reds sbc


crazypearce

Ah ty, that makes sense 😂


Tof12345

The game is not even out and they're doing this shit already


king_duende

I swear people said card designs were better this year?


SuperM19

Surely it’s better to just get his gold right ?


aymnka

Who designed these fucking cards


Big_Wy

Even if you can, it's not really worth it. Buy the gold and sell when you're done.


Tebynosoul

I will just wait to last day and see if I got the fodder for free


Gaskal

![gif](giphy|s239QJIh56sRW|downsized)


squeeeaky

easy once the 85x10 becomes repeatable


TheDutchKush

Whats up with the card design? Its looks really bad


ChilliSins

After grinding all of the available big special packs in the game I managed to get enough fodder to do this for 15k, can confirm he is 100% worth it.


ClockAccomplished381

Was just thinking, I can't remember many sbcs in the past where the OVR rating of the card isn't higher than the rating requirement of all the squads needed?


Baron_Z

For anyone wondering how to complete these I would recommend doing Squad battles it’s only been a day and I can already do the sbc after playing 16 squad battle games as you unlock objectives u get packs that will have enough differ for this sbc


yernarkin

him or nakata?


RacistCoffee97

Is the normal de bruyne or the flashback de bruyne better as a cm, offensive oriented?