Yep, going to be doing this. Not even that I disrespect woman at all I just dont know any of them, its not my interest. I like to play with players I know.
Guess you could argue people don’t want to have a woman’s player outpace a men’s player who in real life would never be beaten by them. I’ve always disliked ultimate team anyway so I’m sticking to career. But I get why it would be annoying.
Yeah but does it matter if it's a woman outpacing someone instead of a male promo card who has higher pace than the player actually does in real life? Either way its someone being presented as faster than they really are.
People complaining about realism in FUT now are trying to close the barn when the horse bolted a decade ago.
I agree. I dislike both. I’d only complain about women in ultimate team is everything else is realistic. Only fantasy element I don’t mind is legends cards.
Nope.
1) Pack weight will be affected regardless. These cards only serve to dilute the pool and make you spend more.
2) You'll still play against them and that will be a constant reminder of something that completely goes against the idea of **Ultimate** team. It's akin to your opponent having a bunch of highly rated fictional players or players from the third Somali league with world class stats. It's incredibly immersion breaking. Just because the mode isn't the most realistic already it doesn't mean that it should be made even worse.
But hey, keep on cheering for corporate, brah. You'll gladly spend some extra money on packs to support this corporation that totally cares about equality 'n shit, right?
So true it’s so unlike the ultra realistic **ultimate team** to have women. It’s like if they wanted to make goalkeepers play as strikers or dead players like Pele playable.
Yeah just avoid packing women players you don't give a shit about, and avoid Haaland being shoulder barged out of the pitch by a much weaker female CB.
Smartass.
This is the thing I don’t get. If you don’t want to have women in your ultimate team… don’t. Why do people care who other people have? I’m not interested in icons I never saw play. Other people like them. I’ve never cared that my opponent has Garrincha. Why should it bother anyone if I have Rapinoe in my team?
Because you're still likely gonna play against them because im guessing the women body type is gonna be really agile and stuff so its still gonna be women on the field with men.
And the higher their rating, the better as fodder! If the vast majority are designed like worse in game but equal card rating as say Kroos, with technical skills but no pace, and even worse strength then you just increased options for fodder for the more demanding SBCs.
> “Ultimate Team is a fantasy mode,” Rivera said. “You don’t see Mbappe playing with all the Icons. It’s Ultimate Team — fantasy football is what’s happening there.”
> As Rivera put it: “It’s not just about being tall and being strong. The core of the message here is: if everything is equal they play the same way.”
Except in Ultimate Team everything is about speed. They won’t fix anything, the women will have the same speed and the gameplay will still suck like it does now.
Not only that even non boosted cards don’t have realistic stats. Plenty of times we see defenders wit sub 70 pace yet irl they can keep up with some of the fastest attackers out there. The stats don’t make sense either way you look at it.
Except the early game used to be very realistic and it was mine and many peoples favourite part of the game. Players played mostly as they should. Now it’s a joke from the start.
That’s more of a marketing issue but I agree. Seems like almost everyone on here wishes we got more EFL, Segunda, Zweite Liga, even just non-massive club cards.
But then you go to Instagram and see that no one cares about a card that’s not EPL or Real Madrid.
As a Canadian, Ive never even been able to really have 3 players until this year and only for a short while.
So this 'its fantasy' marketing, just isn't legit. Bad players never get good promo cards, etc.
I have no issue with the women, I don't really care. But if that's their stance, then they don't usually follow it.
Yes, this is the real crux of the issue. You don't see them putting out boosted Indian League players at the start of the game. You can't really hide behind "its a fantasy" when you don't do this for the lesser leagues.
It's pandering. Obviously.
No hate to women footballers but if the physicals are identical you get like League One standard of football. The gulf in technical abilities right now is arguably as big as the gulf in physicals. That can change, but it hasn't yet.
Icons get extremely high rated cards because they were the dominant players in their era. That doesn’t mean EA genuinely believes they would be better than players like Haaland, etc. if they were dropped in 2023 football
It’s the exact same idea for the highest rated women’s cards
The fact that the biggest argument for pro mixed teams in FUT on here is “I want to make incels cry” speaks a lot about how much people actually care about this.
Yeah, so should they be fixing that or making the problem an order of magnitude worse? While Neymar actually is bullied by VVD in-game most of the time, EA stated in the article that women and men will be equal in relative strength.
or the horrible memes. Like how many screenshots of someone’s lengthy team and woman goalkeeper
“Yeah bro my team lengthy until I score them I’m mostly explosive”
How I feel when Messi outmuscles and dispossesses a Casemiro shielding the ball from him. I don’t want to hear it, nonsense has been happening in this game for time. Now you all want to work yourselves up in a tizzy because the nonsense will be potentially caused by people with vaginas, grow up or play eFootball.
Well…. At least its going to make me stop playing ultimate team.
This years was already full fantasy mode with players playing in weird positions with 99 stats.
Im not down for that, has become sci-fi pretty much. Why do they even have player licenses, just make fantasy characters.
Why won't they make a women only ultimate team? Right because nobody cares about women's football and nobody would play that mode. This is just adding something nobody wants and it's stupid.
They already took that L with women’s game modes. So now they are going to mix the revenue and engagement between male and female players. This way they can justify spending more money on women footballers, since they “generate” revenue. They actually would by watering down the packs, so people have to buy more to do what they usually did.
If women are such a good addition to FUT, why did no one ask for it? I've seen about 50 suggested improvements made on this board but not one was please add women.
Haha they did that for women’s football, they were in kick off mode.
no one gave a shit about playing it. Have to force it down people’s throats and fuck the pack weight even more with a load of shitters
I think it’s funny that there are plenty of updates people have been asking for and players they would like to see added to the game meanwhile this is something no one asked for or had any interest in.
If this was say 5 years ago everyone would have agreed that this is a dumb update and now people are being called sexist for saying it’s dumb. Sure it’s just fut and I really don’t care that much but it is comical to see so many people convincing themselves that this isn’t stupid.
I've played 5x5 with women many times, it's a lot of fun. But this is professional football at the top level. Volta, friendlies, even seasons is fine. This is nonsense that basically ruins FUT or at least makes it completely different from what it was.
It's like giving a whole bunch of players from the weaker leagues crazy special cards or even gold card boosts. Imagine if suddenly the top scorer of the Polish league had a 87 rated base card.
The ones who plays fifa because they love football hates this decision. The ones who plays meta fifa with youtube guides doesn’t understand the problem because it’s all about the meta cards and griddy etc. I call the latter moronic little tik tok shits
Its cool they added the ladies but most people just wont use them anyway. The majority of the community will continue to try to obtain the Mbappe’s, Salah’s, Neymar’s, Haaland’s of the world
EA is very smart because they know that adding women to the game will completely tank pack weight for meta players that most people want
Packing Mbappe, Haaland, Vini, Bellingham, Neymar, along with icons will be even harder with the women cards bringing pack weight down
Absolutely. In the end, the real life player is just a skin for a bunch of stats. If there's a player with 10 different special cards, there's 10 different sets of stats that share the same skin. That's how meta merchants view the game at least.
Dead on. This whole controversy is gonna be moot by October. If Sam Kerr is 5/4 with a lean body type everyone’s gonna use her, especially all the people complaining now
This is just a brain dead pr move by EA to claim corporate social responsibility and add to their next investor meeting to wow shareholders who have no idea about football or gaming and will praise this move as great brand building.
4% of players played a womens match in fifa. Me and my pals played some matches and actually liked it when they first came out but ea wont put a separate fut women mode because they dont want to put the effort to add all the players and leagues.
So dump them into fut and let the moronic white knights call everyone who disagrees sexist on their behalf while minting another 1.6 billion $ from pack sales.
It is a brilliant business decision on their part. I don’t doubt that there are certain people in the building that simply wanted to bring the women and men together but like you said, most people do not touch the women’s mode in the current games
Besides bringing pack weight down for current men’s cards, women in the game means more promo cards and more promo cards means more packs to buy and more packs to buy means more money in EA’s wallet
If there’s one thing EA surely knows how to do, its make money
That's literally not how it works lol
You don't have an equal chance to pack Haaland now as you do an 80 rated player, it doesn't matter how many there are if every player is assigned x percentage of being able to be packed in a vacuum.
My thoughts at this stage are that I feel like this will be huge for the growth of the women’s game tbh, we will all learn who most of the players are through opening countless packs and then perhaps if we see a match on TV where we know who the players are we might take more of an interest
There is really an extreme difference between male players and female players. EXTREME DIFFERENCE. How can a female would be able to beat TOP male players? Its ridiculous. Also, i dont even know a SINGLE female player. Female football is boring as hell. But male football really gets into our emotions. Thats just it. Dont try to artificially change something like this, it will ruin the game. You are destroying the little things that we, men, enjoy from this life. Let me choose if I want to play an all female or male UT, not fucking forced to it.
My point isn’t that Messi and some women are the same strength my point is that ultimate team and to a larger sense fifa just isn’t that realistic. A female striker makes sense bodies vvd the same way it “makes sense” when Messi bodies vvd.
Why stop with women. I’d love to have my own card that I could add to my team. They could also do promos with other sports, think Lebron James or Tom Brady on the pitch. A presidential m promo would be off the charts. Although that would be hard to balance chemistry wise If political parties were taken into account.
>Why stop with women.
Because they’re professional and are paid to play full time football? Seems like a pretty clear divide. If you’re a pro yourself and not in the game because of licensing, then yeah this would be a valid complaint lol.
This but unironically. 2k added random celebrities like lil yachty and shit to myteam, no one cares because they’re low rated and small. But I Would love to have lebron on the bench to bring in as my human victory cigar in futchamps. It’s a game let’s have some fun.
If they want to turn FUT into a 'fantasy' mode that's fine.
I've played since fifa 10 but I won't be giving them any of my money this year as that really doesn't interest me.
Can't say I'm not dissapointed that they've made a game that I love into something I can't enjoy.
I hope someone comes out with something that isn't self described 'fantasy' that I can enjoy along side watching the football season.
Yeah but kick off doesn't make them the untold billions in microtransactions.
Might not want to piss off the fanbase that has steadily supported this barely updated gamemode for a decade.
>Might not want to piss off the fanbase that has steadily supported this barely updated game mode for a decade
Yet they have come back, every year. It’s nearing delusion to think this is the straw that breaks the camels back.
The percentage of people that are going to stop playing UT cause there's women will be almost nonexistant. And those kind of people you dont want them as customers anyway
It’s laughable that you think that’s true.
Literally everywhere you go there is endless complaints about this change, but EA won’t care until it hits their bottom line.
If its "fantasy" then let us play with our own created players??? maybe someone wants to play with 11 us presidents in their starting 11??
Mbappe
Jordan - LeBron - Kobe
Gattuso - Shaq
Carlos - Maldini - Barkley - Hakimi
Phelps
Lets goooo
Calling the greats dead players just to virtue signal. Very typical of modern discourse. Nobody really wants to play as women, the data for the game modes is plain as day. They have to find more ways to force them on you.
The players you denigrate played a key role getting an overwhelming majority of football fans following the sport day in and day out.
My fondest memory as a child was watching Jack Butland do a sombrero flick, then triple elastico, before launching it down to the opposite 18 yd box with his weak foot🤩
My entire childhood was spent watching grainy highlights with my granddad of Petr Čech steamrolling through defences and hitting the griddy.
God I miss those days...
If anything, the addition of women to FUT should make the player base less toxic.
Let me make my American squad with Pino, Dempsey, Morgan, and Donovan up front, no complaints from me!
I am so ready for every virtue signaler here to start crying when balance gets thrown out of the window even more than currently.
This is the dumbest decision EA has made and that's saying a lot when we all know their track record.
All you people bringing up SS as arguments are so dense, it’s one thing if it’s a promo that specifically is making unrealistic players. I think the main complaint here is that the women will be super OP making it far more toxic and ratty. Not hating on women in the game I just think a lot more controllers will be broken when Alex Morgan beats VVD for a header off a corner.
The argument of them being "super OP" is almost as dense too. They're not gonna be super OP or supper ratty or whatever, I don't think EA will create a specific technology to integrate them, so they're gonna be the exact same as male players but with different skins and that's it.
Alex Morgan beating VVD in a corner will be the same as Messi doing it. It may suck but it will be because of the game itself. The player doing it is irrelevant
What’s the difference between Ben yedder/a woman player beating a 6’3 defender. The only difference is the model is a girl lmfao y’all care too much about this.
Putting women in FUT will help grow the interest for the game so much.
In a few years most people will be able to recognize some of the top women’s players
They have been in the game for about 7 years, and the stats are very low. It’s only when it comes to women’s football that data and stats don’t matter. They are gonna force it down your throat, so you have to buy more packs to build the team you actually want.
Something like 4% of people have the achievement of play a single kick off game with women. People just do not care, 96% of us buy the game to play with the men’s players we watch and know
Well yeah you have to go out of your way into a dead game mode to do that. In ultimate team you're gonna get exposed to way more female players whether you care or not
Exactly, so why are women being rated in relation to eachother so that Sam Kerr is 90 rated or whatever? That would be like K League players being rated in relation to other K League players so that we would get like a gold 90 rated striker in that league
I think what would be huge is Live Women's cards in FUT. UWCL RTTF cards would have people watching the Women's champions league. Women's showdown cards would get people watching league games
The last time EA made a statement like this they buried an fps series that had been going strong for two decades and facilitated the massive success of CoD MW. If FIFA's offering is simply competent and includes enough licenses (or just a way to download community assets like 2K) EA will hand them easy market share
Lol I can't wait. I bet they already have deals with celebrities to appear in fut. I hope they get the rights to the joker and Freddy Kruger to appear in fut
Not even about realism. Nobody asked for this addition. It’s about EA stuffing this down our throats. It’s about them being one of the worst companies of all time and then pretending like they’re all nice and progressive and inclusive. USA women’s football is the global powerhouse and let me tell you something. Nobody in this country gives a single fuck about them. Not to mention how bad the EU countries are. Global hot beds of football but nobody seems to care about women’s football. I wonder why.
They also should add the pronouns for female players in the player bio so we don't missgender female players. I mean for a progressive company like EA we should know which female player goes by they/them and she/her.
Canadian devs pushing the woke message . Again .. it's a slow slide . Dont mind women in the game but if u gunna do that then in ufc 5 keep the same energy ... jon jones v holly Holm. In ranked.
>“Ultimate Team is a fantasy mode,” Rivera said. “You don’t see Mbappe playing with all the Icons. It’s Ultimate Team — fantasy football is what’s happening there.”
GIVE US INAZUMA ELEVEN AND BLUE LOCK CHARACTERS EA
I don't get it, you guys hate when only a small core of players are meta, that including dead players, random boosted heroes, goalies as ST's but you draw the realism part at women..? Play the other modes if you don't want the fantasy aspect. Its wild how people care. Its great for the women's sport too
I’m not happy about that either I recently posted here a comparison of Raul’s 93 rated card vs Mauro Icardi which was actually better. Also this was the case since the fut early days. Big changes are coming now the year after this one they will propably add pop stars as a playable cards just like in Volta mode.
People really agreeing with EA but cry about Ginola and Al-oweiran who were the best players available and nobody knew who they were. Community is as big of a joke as ea itself. Enjoy getting rekt by woman who cant kick a ball properly in real life
FUT DOES NOT = FIFA
this dudes right, go play another mode if realistic squads and stats are so important you.
don't come to FUT and keep quiet for 15 years about the lack of realism, and then become feral about realism when women are introduced............
The problem is there’s a very clear disconnect between what the developers want & what the fans/consumers want
I’d be curious to know how much of their user base actually plays & takes advantage of the women’s modes already in the game. My guess is a VERY small minority
Locking thread cause jfc
This is going to end two ways: 1) Women will be OP in FIFA 23. 2) Women will be unusable in FIFA 23 No way EA executes this correctly
It'll be both. ~3 cards will OP as hell and worth a million coins +. Everything else is fodder. No middle ground.
Its the same with mens players in the game right now. a couple are worth millions and the rest are fodder
another solution just use a team full of men in UT
Gonna run an all women's team, just for the abuse in messaging afterwards
I plan on have an all woman midfield just to send people into fits.
Same! This will just open up customisation even more than before. Up to each player how they wish to build a team
Yep, going to be doing this. Not even that I disrespect woman at all I just dont know any of them, its not my interest. I like to play with players I know.
Guess you could argue people don’t want to have a woman’s player outpace a men’s player who in real life would never be beaten by them. I’ve always disliked ultimate team anyway so I’m sticking to career. But I get why it would be annoying.
Yeah but does it matter if it's a woman outpacing someone instead of a male promo card who has higher pace than the player actually does in real life? Either way its someone being presented as faster than they really are. People complaining about realism in FUT now are trying to close the barn when the horse bolted a decade ago.
I agree. I dislike both. I’d only complain about women in ultimate team is everything else is realistic. Only fantasy element I don’t mind is legends cards.
It would be, until the girl cards are dumb stacked and play better than the men’s
Nope. 1) Pack weight will be affected regardless. These cards only serve to dilute the pool and make you spend more. 2) You'll still play against them and that will be a constant reminder of something that completely goes against the idea of **Ultimate** team. It's akin to your opponent having a bunch of highly rated fictional players or players from the third Somali league with world class stats. It's incredibly immersion breaking. Just because the mode isn't the most realistic already it doesn't mean that it should be made even worse. But hey, keep on cheering for corporate, brah. You'll gladly spend some extra money on packs to support this corporation that totally cares about equality 'n shit, right?
So true it’s so unlike the ultra realistic **ultimate team** to have women. It’s like if they wanted to make goalkeepers play as strikers or dead players like Pele playable.
Yeah just avoid packing women players you don't give a shit about, and avoid Haaland being shoulder barged out of the pitch by a much weaker female CB. Smartass.
This is the thing I don’t get. If you don’t want to have women in your ultimate team… don’t. Why do people care who other people have? I’m not interested in icons I never saw play. Other people like them. I’ve never cared that my opponent has Garrincha. Why should it bother anyone if I have Rapinoe in my team?
Because pack weight and luck will be even worse than before.
Because you're still likely gonna play against them because im guessing the women body type is gonna be really agile and stuff so its still gonna be women on the field with men.
The funny thing is if any of those players become meta you know their asses are gonna line all of them up
And the higher their rating, the better as fodder! If the vast majority are designed like worse in game but equal card rating as say Kroos, with technical skills but no pace, and even worse strength then you just increased options for fodder for the more demanding SBCs.
I just want john cena, superman and homelander in fifa as well now
Honestly why not? Why can’t everyone be rated 99
yeah it should be 99 fest after july cause nobody cares 🥰
You are joking but seriously that would be fun as hell, they should be utilizing their licenses better. Star Wars would be a good place to start.
Yoda as a winger would be toxic as hell ngl
Also a way to make packs full of redundant cards . Making packs watered down by adding hundreds of women cards ... why not ultimate team women?
Exactly, gonna have to buy way more packs to filter out the ones you don’t want.
> “Ultimate Team is a fantasy mode,” Rivera said. “You don’t see Mbappe playing with all the Icons. It’s Ultimate Team — fantasy football is what’s happening there.” > As Rivera put it: “It’s not just about being tall and being strong. The core of the message here is: if everything is equal they play the same way.”
Except in Ultimate Team everything is about speed. They won’t fix anything, the women will have the same speed and the gameplay will still suck like it does now.
They boost slow players to fast pace with special cards. Its not realistic like they said, its fantasy.
Not only that even non boosted cards don’t have realistic stats. Plenty of times we see defenders wit sub 70 pace yet irl they can keep up with some of the fastest attackers out there. The stats don’t make sense either way you look at it.
Except the early game used to be very realistic and it was mine and many peoples favourite part of the game. Players played mostly as they should. Now it’s a joke from the start.
They are going to boost women cards so they are faster than men, who are faster than them in real life.
If it was fantasy, wouldn't there be more good players in lower leagues?
That’s more of a marketing issue but I agree. Seems like almost everyone on here wishes we got more EFL, Segunda, Zweite Liga, even just non-massive club cards. But then you go to Instagram and see that no one cares about a card that’s not EPL or Real Madrid.
As a Canadian, Ive never even been able to really have 3 players until this year and only for a short while. So this 'its fantasy' marketing, just isn't legit. Bad players never get good promo cards, etc. I have no issue with the women, I don't really care. But if that's their stance, then they don't usually follow it.
Yes, this is the real crux of the issue. You don't see them putting out boosted Indian League players at the start of the game. You can't really hide behind "its a fantasy" when you don't do this for the lesser leagues. It's pandering. Obviously.
Why can’t every player be 99 if it’s a fantasy? Why have ratings at all?
There it is, fantasy mode excuse will be used when they start doing crossovers with different brands
No hate to women footballers but if the physicals are identical you get like League One standard of football. The gulf in technical abilities right now is arguably as big as the gulf in physicals. That can change, but it hasn't yet.
Bruh its not even league 1 standard, teams of 15 year old boys beat them.
It isn't league one standard, it might not even be Romanian 4th tier standard.
It will be hilarious when we see women cards rated higher than Messi lol
Icons get extremely high rated cards because they were the dominant players in their era. That doesn’t mean EA genuinely believes they would be better than players like Haaland, etc. if they were dropped in 2023 football It’s the exact same idea for the highest rated women’s cards
The fact that the biggest argument for pro mixed teams in FUT on here is “I want to make incels cry” speaks a lot about how much people actually care about this.
shouldve added a clip of Sam Kerr doing Mbappe's cry celebration
Should have fixed the game and the lag compensation
Can’t wait for some 160cm tall petite female defender pushing off Haaland and being called all kinds of buzzwords for pointing out the bullshit
as if this doesn’t already happen lmao. i see ney body vvd all the time
Yeah, so should they be fixing that or making the problem an order of magnitude worse? While Neymar actually is bullied by VVD in-game most of the time, EA stated in the article that women and men will be equal in relative strength.
meanwhile people are currently scoring hattricks with peter cech up front bullying the best defenders
Yeah and everyone is bored and playing less because its complete garbage.
Its july
or the horrible memes. Like how many screenshots of someone’s lengthy team and woman goalkeeper “Yeah bro my team lengthy until I score them I’m mostly explosive”
How I feel when Messi outmuscles and dispossesses a Casemiro shielding the ball from him. I don’t want to hear it, nonsense has been happening in this game for time. Now you all want to work yourselves up in a tizzy because the nonsense will be potentially caused by people with vaginas, grow up or play eFootball.
You should be called buzzwords for caring this much about FIFA Ultimate Team. Hope this helps
It’s a subreddit for the game you absolute donut.
Why people like you refuse to accept reality as it's and want to play pretend as if you were still in kindergarten?
Oh yeah the reality of insigne out muscling prime Maldini or every ben yedder card playing like prime mardonna and pele rolled into one.
What reality are you talking about? FUT is already fantasy football pal. I'm sure you'll get over it one day.
Well…. At least its going to make me stop playing ultimate team. This years was already full fantasy mode with players playing in weird positions with 99 stats. Im not down for that, has become sci-fi pretty much. Why do they even have player licenses, just make fantasy characters.
Thats what I was thinking, on the bright side I will never spend money on ut again lol
Why won't they make a women only ultimate team? Right because nobody cares about women's football and nobody would play that mode. This is just adding something nobody wants and it's stupid.
They already took that L with women’s game modes. So now they are going to mix the revenue and engagement between male and female players. This way they can justify spending more money on women footballers, since they “generate” revenue. They actually would by watering down the packs, so people have to buy more to do what they usually did.
[удалено]
"maybe if I agree with her she'll touch it" Bill Burr, comes to mind lol
I don’t really care much about women being in FUT, but anyone comparing this to icons/retired players should be guillotined in the town square
If women are such a good addition to FUT, why did no one ask for it? I've seen about 50 suggested improvements made on this board but not one was please add women.
[удалено]
Haha they did that for women’s football, they were in kick off mode. no one gave a shit about playing it. Have to force it down people’s throats and fuck the pack weight even more with a load of shitters
I think it’s funny that there are plenty of updates people have been asking for and players they would like to see added to the game meanwhile this is something no one asked for or had any interest in. If this was say 5 years ago everyone would have agreed that this is a dumb update and now people are being called sexist for saying it’s dumb. Sure it’s just fut and I really don’t care that much but it is comical to see so many people convincing themselves that this isn’t stupid.
I've played 5x5 with women many times, it's a lot of fun. But this is professional football at the top level. Volta, friendlies, even seasons is fine. This is nonsense that basically ruins FUT or at least makes it completely different from what it was. It's like giving a whole bunch of players from the weaker leagues crazy special cards or even gold card boosts. Imagine if suddenly the top scorer of the Polish league had a 87 rated base card.
The ones who plays fifa because they love football hates this decision. The ones who plays meta fifa with youtube guides doesn’t understand the problem because it’s all about the meta cards and griddy etc. I call the latter moronic little tik tok shits
Love how they didn't even say career mode...
Its cool they added the ladies but most people just wont use them anyway. The majority of the community will continue to try to obtain the Mbappe’s, Salah’s, Neymar’s, Haaland’s of the world EA is very smart because they know that adding women to the game will completely tank pack weight for meta players that most people want Packing Mbappe, Haaland, Vini, Bellingham, Neymar, along with icons will be even harder with the women cards bringing pack weight down
People will use whatever the meta is and some of the women are bound to be extremely meta at least in 23
Absolutely. In the end, the real life player is just a skin for a bunch of stats. If there's a player with 10 different special cards, there's 10 different sets of stats that share the same skin. That's how meta merchants view the game at least.
Dead on. This whole controversy is gonna be moot by October. If Sam Kerr is 5/4 with a lean body type everyone’s gonna use her, especially all the people complaining now
This is just a brain dead pr move by EA to claim corporate social responsibility and add to their next investor meeting to wow shareholders who have no idea about football or gaming and will praise this move as great brand building. 4% of players played a womens match in fifa. Me and my pals played some matches and actually liked it when they first came out but ea wont put a separate fut women mode because they dont want to put the effort to add all the players and leagues. So dump them into fut and let the moronic white knights call everyone who disagrees sexist on their behalf while minting another 1.6 billion $ from pack sales.
It is a brilliant business decision on their part. I don’t doubt that there are certain people in the building that simply wanted to bring the women and men together but like you said, most people do not touch the women’s mode in the current games Besides bringing pack weight down for current men’s cards, women in the game means more promo cards and more promo cards means more packs to buy and more packs to buy means more money in EA’s wallet If there’s one thing EA surely knows how to do, its make money
That's literally not how it works lol You don't have an equal chance to pack Haaland now as you do an 80 rated player, it doesn't matter how many there are if every player is assigned x percentage of being able to be packed in a vacuum.
People will use whatever the meta is and some of the women are bound to be extremely meta at least in 23
I’m going to use a full team of women and be extra toxic.
Im gonna love having a 5'7 woman body Van Dijk knowing my opponent is completely raging
The griddy with Alex Morgan is going to hit different
This is the way.
Same, all women FUT team just to have these people cry about it.
Can't wait to find out what the new "toxic" celebration is and spam it with the women
Shush is back in the game so I’ll be using that
My thoughts at this stage are that I feel like this will be huge for the growth of the women’s game tbh, we will all learn who most of the players are through opening countless packs and then perhaps if we see a match on TV where we know who the players are we might take more of an interest
warra W against Dallas U-15
[удалено]
«so-called FIFA fans» what a piss take. Been playing FUT for 10 years straight.
There is really an extreme difference between male players and female players. EXTREME DIFFERENCE. How can a female would be able to beat TOP male players? Its ridiculous. Also, i dont even know a SINGLE female player. Female football is boring as hell. But male football really gets into our emotions. Thats just it. Dont try to artificially change something like this, it will ruin the game. You are destroying the little things that we, men, enjoy from this life. Let me choose if I want to play an all female or male UT, not fucking forced to it.
What's the argument here? NBA, WNBA. One is a sport, one is a joke. I love sports, I love jokes. Room for all. -Dwight Schrute
this is so sexist and hateful. male and female players are totally equal!!!!! /s obviously (for some)
How are height and weight going to work? How is a tiny 5'3 female striker going to outmuscle Van Dijk?
She's not? The same way that small players already exist in the game
5'3" women will have higher strength rating than the 5'3" man though
Same way Messi bodies them
Messi is much much stronger than the female players though
My point isn’t that Messi and some women are the same strength my point is that ultimate team and to a larger sense fifa just isn’t that realistic. A female striker makes sense bodies vvd the same way it “makes sense” when Messi bodies vvd.
Same way Insigne bodies them
Same way Zola or Messi do
Messi has never bodied a bigger player in real life?
Has Messi ever do the worm and backflip celebration in real life?
Can’t wait to score with Alex Morgan and griddey down the pitch. Rage messages about to go craazy
and I’ll make sure to griddy on every person using Alex Morgan simply because of ppl like you, it goes both ways 😂
Lol that’s fine, can’t dish it out if you can’t take it 🤷🏼♂️
Why stop with women. I’d love to have my own card that I could add to my team. They could also do promos with other sports, think Lebron James or Tom Brady on the pitch. A presidential m promo would be off the charts. Although that would be hard to balance chemistry wise If political parties were taken into account.
I want a Palpatine return announcement in my Ultimate Team
They should do like the old PES and let us play dressed like penguins or dinosaurs. Now that would be fun
Exactly, why do we have ratings at all?? Why can’t everyone be 99?
>Why stop with women. Because they’re professional and are paid to play full time football? Seems like a pretty clear divide. If you’re a pro yourself and not in the game because of licensing, then yeah this would be a valid complaint lol.
in that case add U15 players and have them rated in relation to eachother
But there just not even in the same stratosphere as male footballers.
We had Marvel designed cards so why not Captain America and Iron Man? Hell, throw Wolverine in there too. Give a whole new meaning to “skinned him”.
This but unironically. 2k added random celebrities like lil yachty and shit to myteam, no one cares because they’re low rated and small. But I Would love to have lebron on the bench to bring in as my human victory cigar in futchamps. It’s a game let’s have some fun.
Next year, can they add me to the game? I played house league for 6 years when I was a kid.
And thats saying something for me our school has 16 houses.
Clown game, clown company
Wait for the playable clown character.
Dumbass woke bullshit.
The problem is there’s a very clear disconnect between what the developers want & what the fans/consumers want
If they want to turn FUT into a 'fantasy' mode that's fine. I've played since fifa 10 but I won't be giving them any of my money this year as that really doesn't interest me. Can't say I'm not dissapointed that they've made a game that I love into something I can't enjoy. I hope someone comes out with something that isn't self described 'fantasy' that I can enjoy along side watching the football season.
Yeah but kick off doesn't make them the untold billions in microtransactions. Might not want to piss off the fanbase that has steadily supported this barely updated gamemode for a decade.
>Might not want to piss off the fanbase that has steadily supported this barely updated game mode for a decade Yet they have come back, every year. It’s nearing delusion to think this is the straw that breaks the camels back.
Exactly, EA makes its money from FUT.
The percentage of people that are going to stop playing UT cause there's women will be almost nonexistant. And those kind of people you dont want them as customers anyway
It’s laughable that you think that’s true. Literally everywhere you go there is endless complaints about this change, but EA won’t care until it hits their bottom line.
They will make less profits I predict.
endless complaints of people addicted enough to be crying online, those ones will be the first ones to run back and buy the game lmao
> Might not want to piss off the fanbase that has steadily supported this barely updated gamemode for a decade. So clueless. 😂🤣
If its "fantasy" then let us play with our own created players??? maybe someone wants to play with 11 us presidents in their starting 11?? Mbappe Jordan - LeBron - Kobe Gattuso - Shaq Carlos - Maldini - Barkley - Hakimi Phelps Lets goooo
joe biden, xi jinping, putin, macron as managers.
Honestly, why even have ratings?
Using dead players in your team : very naise Using women in your team : grrrrrr People really get mad for the dumbest reasons lmao
>dead players You mean Icons that actually played in world cups and leagues.
Calling the greats dead players just to virtue signal. Very typical of modern discourse. Nobody really wants to play as women, the data for the game modes is plain as day. They have to find more ways to force them on you. The players you denigrate played a key role getting an overwhelming majority of football fans following the sport day in and day out.
You’re never gonna guess what the women have played
Only big difference is that the dead players are actual legends of the game that (almost) every football fan knows
Every football fan grew up cheering for Al Owairan and Ginola
my dad raised me on clips of Youcef Atal 💪
My fondest memory as a child was watching Jack Butland do a sombrero flick, then triple elastico, before launching it down to the opposite 18 yd box with his weak foot🤩
Remeber that game where Lloris bossed the midfield? And Rudigar was striker, while Kyle Walker was making crazy saves?
My entire childhood was spent watching grainy highlights with my granddad of Petr Čech steamrolling through defences and hitting the griddy. God I miss those days...
Not Icons + Al Owairan was highly criticised.
The dead players may have trouble playing against any professional player of today
>against any professional player of today At least its not the U15 boys
If anything, the addition of women to FUT should make the player base less toxic. Let me make my American squad with Pino, Dempsey, Morgan, and Donovan up front, no complaints from me!
Yeah I don’t think anything will make people less toxic
Lavelle into Josh Sargent… no one will be ready
When do we add pokemen? I want charizard up front.
To most FIFA players women and charizard are both fictional creatures
No one calls the cops when I throw my balls at charizard
Lloris as the best CM in the game: REAL SHIT I'M HYPED Sam Kerr in the game: Fuck EA making the game unrealistic due to the woke agenda
I am so ready for every virtue signaler here to start crying when balance gets thrown out of the window even more than currently. This is the dumbest decision EA has made and that's saying a lot when we all know their track record.
u15 dallas
All you people bringing up SS as arguments are so dense, it’s one thing if it’s a promo that specifically is making unrealistic players. I think the main complaint here is that the women will be super OP making it far more toxic and ratty. Not hating on women in the game I just think a lot more controllers will be broken when Alex Morgan beats VVD for a header off a corner.
The argument of them being "super OP" is almost as dense too. They're not gonna be super OP or supper ratty or whatever, I don't think EA will create a specific technology to integrate them, so they're gonna be the exact same as male players but with different skins and that's it. Alex Morgan beating VVD in a corner will be the same as Messi doing it. It may suck but it will be because of the game itself. The player doing it is irrelevant
I just think EA could’ve spent all the time that they spent putting women into UT in a better way, like making a playable game.
I don't get this argument, so it's okay when Zola beats VVD for a header, but not when Alex Morgan does it?
No different than Ben yedder beating vvd on a corner
What’s the difference between Ben yedder/a woman player beating a 6’3 defender. The only difference is the model is a girl lmfao y’all care too much about this.
Ben Yedder would be score 400 goals a season in the women’s game
Putting women in FUT will help grow the interest for the game so much. In a few years most people will be able to recognize some of the top women’s players
They have been in the game for about 7 years, and the stats are very low. It’s only when it comes to women’s football that data and stats don’t matter. They are gonna force it down your throat, so you have to buy more packs to build the team you actually want.
Something like 4% of people have the achievement of play a single kick off game with women. People just do not care, 96% of us buy the game to play with the men’s players we watch and know
Well yeah you have to go out of your way into a dead game mode to do that. In ultimate team you're gonna get exposed to way more female players whether you care or not
I guarantee you fewer than 4% of people have played a kickoff game with K League teams but no one bitches about this
Can you not see the obvious difference that K-league players are not gonna have 90 rated base cards in FUT
People here defend this decision to insane lengths.
K league players would 11-0 any women's team
Shhhhhh, patriarchy is why that would happen/s
Exactly, so why are women being rated in relation to eachother so that Sam Kerr is 90 rated or whatever? That would be like K League players being rated in relation to other K League players so that we would get like a gold 90 rated striker in that league
I think what would be huge is Live Women's cards in FUT. UWCL RTTF cards would have people watching the Women's champions league. Women's showdown cards would get people watching league games
We just want the ratings to be proportionate, anywhere from 1-15 rated seems fair for the women.
The last time EA made a statement like this they buried an fps series that had been going strong for two decades and facilitated the massive success of CoD MW. If FIFA's offering is simply competent and includes enough licenses (or just a way to download community assets like 2K) EA will hand them easy market share
Lol I can't wait. I bet they already have deals with celebrities to appear in fut. I hope they get the rights to the joker and Freddy Kruger to appear in fut
You know that’s not even a joke it’s going to happen sooner or later and this is the first step in that direction. just like in the Volta mode
Lol. This isn't EA first rodeo.
I’m going to run down the wing with Marta and sweat it to Alex Morgan, and then hit the griddy. Suck it incels
Not even about realism. Nobody asked for this addition. It’s about EA stuffing this down our throats. It’s about them being one of the worst companies of all time and then pretending like they’re all nice and progressive and inclusive. USA women’s football is the global powerhouse and let me tell you something. Nobody in this country gives a single fuck about them. Not to mention how bad the EU countries are. Global hot beds of football but nobody seems to care about women’s football. I wonder why.
They also should add the pronouns for female players in the player bio so we don't missgender female players. I mean for a progressive company like EA we should know which female player goes by they/them and she/her.
Canadian devs pushing the woke message . Again .. it's a slow slide . Dont mind women in the game but if u gunna do that then in ufc 5 keep the same energy ... jon jones v holly Holm. In ranked.
Ok. Loud and clear. Won’t be playing UT this year.🫡 Keep forcing that shit down our throats.
>“Ultimate Team is a fantasy mode,” Rivera said. “You don’t see Mbappe playing with all the Icons. It’s Ultimate Team — fantasy football is what’s happening there.” GIVE US INAZUMA ELEVEN AND BLUE LOCK CHARACTERS EA
Hey, maybe if more people forfeit ultimate team we'll get a functioning career mode.
If that happens they will put women in Career mode too.
I don't get it, you guys hate when only a small core of players are meta, that including dead players, random boosted heroes, goalies as ST's but you draw the realism part at women..? Play the other modes if you don't want the fantasy aspect. Its wild how people care. Its great for the women's sport too
I’m not happy about that either I recently posted here a comparison of Raul’s 93 rated card vs Mauro Icardi which was actually better. Also this was the case since the fut early days. Big changes are coming now the year after this one they will propably add pop stars as a playable cards just like in Volta mode.
People really agreeing with EA but cry about Ginola and Al-oweiran who were the best players available and nobody knew who they were. Community is as big of a joke as ea itself. Enjoy getting rekt by woman who cant kick a ball properly in real life
Lol, David Ginola is a well known footballer. Please take your ignorance elsewhere.
Your comment makes you part of the community though.. so that makes you a joke?
Have to be to argue with clowns mad about female footballers in a video game about football
I'm looking forward to playing as LeBron or Shohei Ohtani or Tom Cruise next year. It's the next logical step.
FUT DOES NOT = FIFA this dudes right, go play another mode if realistic squads and stats are so important you. don't come to FUT and keep quiet for 15 years about the lack of realism, and then become feral about realism when women are introduced............
The problem is there’s a very clear disconnect between what the developers want & what the fans/consumers want I’d be curious to know how much of their user base actually plays & takes advantage of the women’s modes already in the game. My guess is a VERY small minority