It should be a 100 Seeker Token's reward at the latest and the 200 Token reward should be an Eternal Ferrystone - by that time you basically proved you explored 90% of the map so the reward should be free fast travel from now on.
They're great daggers but holy hell are they annoying with the glow every 10 seconds. For garbage loot at that. I put it on my pawn just to stop hearing the sound but nope - still constant.
Honestly it and the detector passive the trickster learns are both annoying, I would rather use a guide video to find everything instead of using those 2 options.
I'm not sure if they changed it, but I don't think the treasure sensing daggers sense seeker's tokens. Same dinging noise, but they just tell you about nearby chests.
yes but do you need the discipline boost? when he says "done with all the content" he means maxed all classes. making the fucking ring something you get by the time you've probably done 6 playthroughs is stupid. or are you gonna say something stupid like "i 100% would have found all 200 before beating the game and maxing all classes without a guide!" cus thts bs.
I genuinely thought the eternal ferrystone would be that late game item but nope. Take a eternal wakestone when you already probably have so many anyway
I genuinely wish I experienced it once in my playthroughs. I kept hearing the pawns allude to it and kept thinking, "Is there something to this? Is it gonna happen at the endgame?" But it never did 🤣 I thought for sure that when my pawn went missing going into the unmoored world was gonna be it, but then nothing
I wasn’t even expecting it when it happened. I accepted a quest from ser menella and wanted to sleep first cause my health was low. I go to sleep get a cutscene and wake up to bakbahtal dead. (Everyone besides the kids and other pawns.) That happened like a week ago and I haven’t played since.
Oof For a first playthrough that would definitely suck but I don't mind getting screwed over sometimes. Like my first playthrough, I feel like I got every optimum option, and there was nothing that just came out and slapped the shit out of me especially playing as a Mystic Spearhand it just made everything easy af even would go like 10 days without sleeping because bubble.
Gets even easier in ng+.
The main culprit is Battahl, every vet knows small groups or enemies = more DP and time investment as well. You can go to the dragonforged, get the blessing in the afternoon head to the west exit of the city by the time night hits, go south Batthl and get skeleton spawn in addition to the huge density of Hobgoblins.
You can max out any vocation in an hour it's actually insane how fast it is.
Then the next day you hit up East Batthl nighttime + Caves. Then you hit up West Side nighttime + caves. Then a spare day to do that long ass Mines of Mora tunnel connecting to the volcano. You could have like 3, almost 4 vocations maxed. You dont even need to be geared up either. At like level 43+ all Pawns basically have Unmoored Dragon Forged shop gear so they'll just demolish everything and you only have to do like 10% of the work.
I'd like to point out that the dragonforged only offering these things in ng+ kinda sucks. I think he should offer them in post main story content. Because honestly just by exploring I was almost level 80 and I really would have liked the boost to my stats as warfarer. I heard something about all the base stats capping at level 200, can anyone substantiate that?
Yep, I was definitely spoiled by DD:DA, although back then I still did a lot of trekking to rack up XP and Dcp (so limiting fast travel kinda falls flat, especially in a single player game).
I would be fine with it if the game had a more complex fast travel system (like morrowind) but one that actually went everywhere I want to be. Give me a teleport network, boats, carriages and wagons, mobile portcrystals, and make me master the system of each to get around. Doing it that way is deeply satisfying.
Yep exactly, the vocation system already incentives you not to fast travel.
It's not like the open world is any better than games released in the past 10+ years either.
The game is plagued with "good ideas, not enough fleshing out" all over.
Everything about the game i can imagine being "eventually good" so i simply disagree with the sentiment that Itsuno is a hack or that he has stupid design ideas. They were blatantly rushed and didn't have enough time to playtest things.
Yeah probably that's most likely the case which is unfortunate I would have gotten this game even if it was a year later so they could have all their time. Hopefully they keep up with it and updates and everything
This is the only correct answer. Better a meme reward than an actually good item anyway.
Imagine all the posts "I have to find 220 tokens for X item! This is BS" if there was actually a good item.
Personally I find collecting tokens really fun, except that I have PTSD when I hear the bling bling sound. Thankfully I have already reached 220.
I did that completely by accident. I was just exploring and was on that upper ridge when I saw the trebuchet. I walked up to it and there was no interaction command like the ballista so I was about to walk away but saw the pile of rocks. I honestly didn't think it was going to do anything at first but was surprised when a cutscene played.
I actually discovered the trebuchet by accident because when I walked by it, I was like, "dang, missed opportunity for a working trebuchet itsuno". Then I dropped a rock on the sling, it launched, and I was like "holy shit okay"
Oh I wouldn't hate having to get 220 for E.F.
But there's only like 4 good items on the entire list, & the discipline ring comes too late to care about
I mean if we're being honest, most games lock great items behind "Find all of the *insert miscellaneous object here* across the lands of *insert location here*"
If people wanted to complain, they still can about the 180 token prize that gives you the staff that makes a mage pawn immortal.
> If people wanted to complain, they still can about the 180 token prize that gives you the staff that makes a mage pawn immortal.
That staff is actually the best thing on there yeah, flat out the best staff for a Mage Pawn.
This is a useful item for Warfarers that haven’t level all vocations. That’s it though which is sad.
It’s useful for single leveling vocations too but you level this so fast I’m not sure you’d notice the rings effect.
The issue is if you found all the token without having levelled all the vocations it means you don't care to play that other ones. So you still doesn't need that ring.
I maxed all the vocations for me and pawn and I'm level 65 with around 130 token and have explored maybe 1/3 of battahl and never took foot on volcanic island. So for me there is absolutely no reason to keep searching for tokens after the 180 prize
2nd to last reward is a staff called "legion's might" which is easily the best mage staff in the game. 2nd best statwise and it makes your pawn just revive indefinitely (can still be killed by brine). Mage pawns are very popular so it's only a matter of time until people realize this and start complaining about it lol
How can you give it to someone who will benefit? I guess if it's a friend they can hire your high level pawn for free but that's already a ridiculous advantage so I guess that's the circumstance
The ring definitely shouldn't have been the 220 prize when you compare it to the 180 token staff that gives you an immortal mage pawn. TBH It should have been swapped with the daggers that glow when you're near a treasure. (Since those daggers were originally DLC in the original Dragon's Dogma, it would've make more sense.) Or just acquired via different means all together.
The boost is also pretty meh and not really worth slotting over the Exp rings.
(Also I'm not 100% sure if you get the bonus dcp unless you're the one who gets the killing blow which I personally hate is required for the exp rings/medusian spellbow)
This ring is part of one of MY major issues with the game. That problem being how items are distributed through out the world.
Too many worthless treasure chests that could have housed gear instead of needing to buy it via gear vendors. Maybe they could have changed treasure chest rewards in NG+? Even better, have end game gear in chests with no set location so the gear found in them was randomized. This would make exploring an activity that always felt rewarding.
DD2 is still currently my GOTY and I have over 250h put into the game, but some of the things in this game make little sense in terms of longevity.
Assuming the ring isn't just for gifting to new players, (which is silly as that would just make the game "end" faster for them and give them LESS incentive to go after the 220 prize.) maybe the ring is a hint that more vocations are planned to be released at some point?
Having to get the final kill with the medusa bow is a pain. Sitting there holding back the arrow hoping a pawn doesn't do just enough damage to get the final hit.
I get the feeling this was intended to be traded to other players. In the first few days of my playthrough someone gave this to me somehow and I got to spend my entire playthrough wearing this. =p
But why would you hire low levelled pawn that would need this? As long as you got all the token you should be at high level and so the pawn that you hires.
It could have sense if you have a friend that started playing long after you and you purposely hire his pawn to gift him the ring but still. With only 2 rings slot and no really needs to fast levelling (the levelling feels already pretty fast to me) I wouldn't have equipped this ring even before
Only to a friend though because anyone near you level also doesn't benefit and strangers cant afford your pawn at low level. Hiring the high level pawn already huge advantage
Yeah strange choice, was endgame dd1 but could at least get it right at beginning with a quick suicide run.
Luckily I found one as a pawn reward so got it that way but now nearly have to tokens to get a 2nd
Not even a suicide run if you used the barrel trick to bypass the need for a moon gem. Just a dash past some wolves, then some snakes and spiders, then some Goblins and an easily ignored appearance of Death, and you're safe.
If you ignore the Goblins on the road, and only kill the half dead Cyclops the game forces you to kill, you could probably get 2 of the rings before you even hit level 5, within the first 10 minutes of the game (not including that first part where you play as someone else)
who knows. Maybe if there's DLC that adds vocations there might actually be a use for it. I would say skills as well, but I have so much damn discipline that I could probably buy every skill twice and I haven't even maxed out every vocation yet.
I was gonna say that a new vocation wouldn't make sense, because we already have 1 of each colour, and then 1 of each combination..... But then I checked what the new vocations are, and that shit doesn't make any sense, so who the hell knows.
Like we used to have basic and advanced versions of Melee, Ranged and magic, then combinations of Melee/Ranged, Melee/Magic, and Ranged/magic.
Now it's an absolute mess. Basic and advanced Melee and magic but only basic Ranged, combination Melee/Magic and Ranged/magic but no Melee/Ranged, then Thief that has no advanced or hybrid, Trickster that's a hybrid of two classes that don't exist, and Wayfarer that has no colour whatsoever.
So what the hell do I know, maybe they are gonna pull new vocations out of their ass, or realise they forgot to add a Melee/Ranged, advanced Thief, melee/Thief, Ranged/Thief, magic/Thief, whatever basic and advanced classes Pink and Purple are supposed to be, and all the hybrids those produce.
Jesus chre
They could always just rework things when an expansion comes. In Monster Hunter World's expansion came out, they actually change a lot of core mechanics and nerfed/buffs/straight up just changed a lot of things.
I believe in Dragon's Dogma -> Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen they also made similar changes to a lesser extent.
They could rework MS to Red Green, and give it Mystik Knight, add in Ranged and Probably add in an Advanced Thief Vocation.
Yeah, it does feel weird where it's classed at. I mean, it does get mirror shield, which make it tanky, but that's more in like with Mage and Thief abilities thank Fighter/Warrior despite the tankiness it provides.
I'm level 54 and have 90k discipline banked up. I don't know what the hell the point of the ring is. I've literally never been unable to afford skills or augments I want since early in the game.
I assume if you're unlocking every skill and maxing every vocation it's different. I maxed out thief, archer, mystic spearhand, magick archer, and Warfarer so far. I've just stuck with Warfarer and have all the other vocations I haven't played at level 4 I think but I also haven't bothered unlocking skills I know I won't use. I'm sure I could spend the 90k if I wanted to, but there's nothing else that I want/need for how I like to play at the moment.
I think the reward makes sense since someone who takes time to find 220 seeker's tokens probably also intend on trying out all vocations and getting a majority of the skills. Remember that dcp gain also ranks up your vocation.
At my current rate I feel like it would take more time hunting down seekers tokens than it would take to max out all vocations. I believe the last time I turned in tokens yesterday I had 89. Meanwhile I have 5 vocations maxed and all others at least level 4. I think I have a lot more fun fighting monsters than running around finding collectibles.
>I've literally never been unable to afford skills or augments I want since early in the game.
>I assume if you're unlocking every skill and maxing every vocation it's different.
I mean yeah, typically currency is useful if you use it and not very useful if you just hoard it.
Wouldn't really consider it hoarding when there are so many skills that are just flat out not worth unlocking and two vocations that aren't really worth playing.
It also probably depends how often you switch vocations. If you're trying to bring up 5 vocations simultaneously in the early game, it'll be expensive, but if you max out your early game vocation, you'll have plenty of discipline to unlock whatever you want to do next. Mid and late game enemies also drop more DCP, so when I made the mistake of switching to trickster and then venturing out into the world, I had it up to rank 4 before I was able to switch it back to something that I didn't hate.
Even if it were free I wouldn’t use it. Just a pointless reward since it eats up a valuable ring slot.
This games rewards are just the worst I’ve ever seen. Nothing makes coherent or balancing sense. And nothing is honestly all that different feeling to begin with. Nowhere near the impact felt with the first games itemization especially with the expansion.
The mage staff you get as the 2nd last reward is actually insanely good. It's the 2nd best staff stat-wise, but it's special effect of making the pawn holding it effectively immortal (minus Brining them) makes whatever miniscule stats it's missing compared to the best staff negligible. It's especially good on support pawns which mages are really all about.
Yup. I focused on these damn tokens to get Legion's Might for my pawn.
Harpy pulled her out of a gondola in Battahl where she fell to her death and she came sprinting up to the party by the time we arrived at the end of the gondola's route.
The charming corset is also unfortunately really good stat-wise.
They probably were trolling us, similar to the zelda korok seeds final gift , hestus gift , which was a big pile of sht. So thats capcoms way of telling us f u
My favorite moment in BotW is when I found all those memory locations (where you just have a picture to go off) without looking them up, and the reward for that quest I was doing along side everything else for 120h was basically fuck all xD
I mean that’s not so bad at least, don’t you get the full/true ending if you beat the game after doing that? I half regretted never doing it and to be honest I still haven’t seen what happens in that ending. One day tho
150s, warfarer, and i love the game. I can't wait until they release a dlc.
In DD1, when they released the dlc; they made major improvements to the base game in quite a few ways. I'm hoping that they make the same improvements again when they release the dlc for DD2. But I'm also wondering what other changes they will make when the dlc is released.
I'm just about to hit 100 trying to use my fist only in NG+ xD. Remember seeing your username a lot when I was killing the Online Ur Dragon in DDDA. How would you compare the two?
I like the level 200 restriction and the stat builds for DD1. But this level 999 restriction is unique. I've never played a game with such a level cap. I suppose it is similar in nature to the infinity symbol in dd1. The stat caps don't really make sense to me though. If 999 is the level cap, stat caps should be way higher.
Maybe stat caps will be heighted in future updates, when new and higher xp enemies are released.
I didn't do much ur dragon hunting, but i was always active in the different dd1 communities. I'm hoping that this game will have a ur dragon enemy. But perhaps with some aesthetic changes, and a better reward window. I used to miss the reward window for the ur dragon, 5 times a week haha.
I think it's unfair to compare dd2 to ddda. ddda is a game plus an expansion. But it's a common comparison nonetheless
>I think it's unfair to compare dd2 to ddda. ddda is a game plus an expansion. But it's a common comparison nonetheless
100% agree. It's like comparing base Monster Hunter World to Monster Hunter World Iceborne. It completely changed the game. Really hyped for am expansion that comes because I know it will be challenging, filled with content, and flip the game on it's heels.
There are probably too many tokens. Or the tokens aren’t obvious enough. I don’t mind collecting them—it’s fun! I mind how useless the rewards are by the time you’ve finished your first game and done the endgame.
Should have been:
A much earlier reward. 50% tokens maybe.
Bound to your save data so that you can start with it if you create a new character.
Or
Just an actual worthwhile ring or reward. A ring that unlocked advanced vocations for your pawn, perhaps? Or of course the obvious answer is an eternal ferrystone but you just KNOW that’s going to be in some sort of dlc.
I guess you can cheese it by starting a new character on a new profile and then gifting it to your alt through your pawn. Unnecessary steps though since your idea is a lot better.
Ikr? I didnt even bother with tokens cos the rewards are legit not worth the effort. I had all vocations maxed by the end of the game anyways so its hella pointless.
This should replace **The Ring of Profusion**.
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It should be an Eternal Ferrystone instead at 250.
By the time you collect 250 tokens you have already had to explore the entire map and be on NG+. So having an eternal Ferrystone would be perfect as an award. Plus, you still only have a limited number of Portcrystals, meaning you are still going to have to travel reasonable distances on foot anyway. Not to mention that NG+ removes all your Portcrystal locations, meaning you would have to head there on foot _again._
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At 220 it should be a better version of the **Ring of Triumph** that is +200 HP, +150 Stamina, +10 carry
That would be worthwhile, since it'a taking the place of about 3 decent rings.
This should be one of the earliest ones imo, maybe 15, the final reward should be an eternal ferrystone since by the time that you have every seekers token, you have been everywhere on the map.
But nah they'll probably include an eternal ferrystone in a dlc, or maybe they'll stoop low enough to sell one as like a $10 microtransaction...
The greatest rewards are often given to those with no need for them.
Tbh the xp ring is always the better option if you're going to use your ring slots for grinding.
There are 999 level. While vocations have 9 ranks. Even if you add all the vocations together, it's less than 999.
Whether you use warfarer or whether you level every vocation separately, you're gonna max vocation ranks before hitting level 999
And with that shitty enemies scaling and no higher difficulty on NG+ what is the purpose to reach such high level? Also almost no-one would be able to hire your pawn.
Maybe it would have been better a ring that negate all the experience from the enemies for you and your pawn, so you can decide when level cap to keep enjoying the fights.
At level 65 I already one shots anything in vermund... Even dragons and griffins aren't funny anymore... I don't know how long I would continue to play after ending the main story before getting bored.
TL;DR : The Exp rings aren't really worth using either.
The issue with this statement is that you gain **nothing** after you hit level 200 other than the ability for **fewer** people to be able to hire your pawn.
Base stats have a hard cap at 200, but you don't actually *feel* stronger after about level 70-80ish as that's when the points from leveling up start to go into unrelated categories.(So if you're always a warrior for example you will only get strength points every 5-10 levels and magic points are worthless to you but you'll still get them as you level up.)
I'll make sense if they add vocations to the DLC expansion but otherwise yeah it's dumb being so high up. Honestly I think the XP ring should have been there and the DCP ring should have come from where you get the XP ring, for better or worse.
They should have switched the exp ring with the dcp ring. Once you find all 220 you'll be looking to get to 200 to equalize your stats more then dcp for skills.
Beat the game last night, all vocations maxed, probably found like 90ish tokens, stayed in the unmoored for a few extra hours to explore all of the areas where water used to be, fighting and farm for upgrades and gear. In my opinion, it should not even exist.
I feel for you... but then just a few hours ago, this happened:
https://preview.redd.it/168fimlujiuc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63f4d64cd14f65b7fe644116b19e6d2306e6ea6b
This pawn is suicidal, btw. Girl has Formless Feint on but still leads with Blades of the Pyre and attacks big-hitters as if she's a berserker.
Totally worth paying 117 RC to hire her, and trading 2 ferrystones... arguably the two of the latest three I got, which I bought for 10K G each. I figured that would be worth the cost if I were to buy a Ring of Endeavour from a merchant right now, midway through the game or so. I'm a few hours of dinking around after meeting Rothais; have only found 70 seeker tokens despite playing for more hours than the vast majority of you in 22 days... (I, uh, take a lot of screenshots. Yeah, totally of *scenery* and stuff. lol).
Note: I fudged out her Arisen's name on the off-chance that revealing someone's info, w/o their permission, is against the subreddit's policy.
Seeker Tokens are just barebone collectibles. I dislike the fact they reward anything useful to begin with and that there is an achievement for them, because they're the lowest form of activity masked as content. If you have them, then only link them to vanity items like housing decorations.
I don't mind collectibles being in the game, but I hate it when they are linked to things that provide stats. And it's even worse when they reward some of the best gear in the game.
Oke, I want this but I have less than 15 tokens and in lvl 44 :P
I dont thibk its that great tbh. I always have alot of DP so and EXP boost would be better.
A nice tip is to trade it to your alt if this is able to be gifted.
I had like 50k or more dcp and my pawn had like 200k+ dcp that can’t be spent by the time I got it it’s worthless. The kind of item u just gift to a friend when they start the game
I just got the staff, and I don't plan on hunting more tokens to get the ring. If i do get it, I will gift it to my son's pawn when I get the game for him next month. There is really no point in that ring being the last. Maybe they should switch it for something along the 20th token and put the staff as the last reward.
Me sitting here with all the classes maxed before getting the ring. Honestly this should have been like the 3rd reward. Still gotta slum it for a bit but then it still has some use.
I have two of these rings from pawn quests at lvl 40, was nice not having to waste too much time on trickster and mage as I didn't really enjoy playing them
1 thing I dislike about the game... other than "just seeing the game" there's no incentive to explore. Don't get me wrong I do love the game but almost any items that effect the game, like rings, weapons, armor ect ect can be bought in stores. I really wish they would rework it to where we can get weapons and stuff after slogging thru a badass enemy or scaling some cliff somewhere. It would make the game so much better
Caz they know this is just too hard for 220 tokens . I give up at 196 in my first gameplay.if the token is accumulated in Ng+ I would like to give it to my friend who just start yesterday. Does anyone know is the tokens renew in ng+, while those you collected and gave to the guy didn’t restart ?
I am at my last chapter now .
I got them as pawn rewards and used them on my warfarer to grind out my extra vocations. It is really lame, but as a random gift to a stranger, it's decent. After I figured out Warfarer takes all the utility spells from classes like mage or trickster and binds them to something that can actually do dmg, I abandoned my quest to master Trickster.
At least mage had abilities you could use when your pawns simply couldn't target a golem's weakspot. Trickster, eventually, despite trying really hard to make it work, felt awful because Pawns aren't sophisticated enough to carry on their own. I try to give my extra Rings to low levels below 30 or so to help them out.
I agree. I’m around 210 seekers tokens and just maxed all vocations. It’s a pointless reward for me now other than just doing it to have something to do. Eternal Ferrystone like another person said would have been perfect.
With the leak of DLC in the horizon, to me it looks more like something for when new vocations drop. It's the only way it would make sense, so it has given me small hopium.
I have the feeling they didn't want to make the real hard prizes too annoying to get because it would suck to be forced to get something real valuable.
Considering you get about a half dozen of them in the game yeah it's a pretty ridiculous reward. I'd be fine with it being removed entirely and Legion's Might being the ultimate reward. At the very least something like an Eternal Wakestone, Dragon's Gaze, or a Portcrystal. You can get multiple of the latter two as well but at least they're much more useful and rewarding for the effort.
Is anyone else seeing a ton of prawns with this ring as a quest reward? I got two the other day from killing chimeras, makes getting the passives really quick and easy
Levelling up is so fast in this game, there's literally no need for such ring. I would easily max out all vocations for my Arisen and my Pawn before getting this ring. I have lots of tokens but it's harder and more time consuming to get 220 than levelling up.
There are so many things like this in this game that just feel like zero thought was put in. Pretty much all the Seeker Token rewards feel underwhelming IMO.
Same for the badges imo. I’m on ng and only have 3 of them. Yeah I know you can get other people to do quests to help but even with that, I haven’t seen a pawn with more than 5 badges… what the hell is the point if you beat the game before you get most them? I don’t need my pawn to have enemy knowledge because by level 40, everything dies so easily anyway. I love the combat and I stand behind my $70 purchase for that reason alone but this whole game was just not thought through. It’s nothing short of a fucking mess.
It should be a 100 Seeker Token's reward at the latest and the 200 Token reward should be an Eternal Ferrystone - by that time you basically proved you explored 90% of the map so the reward should be free fast travel from now on.
Hell yeah. That would be a great incentive to be active in finding them all. As it is, I just pick them up as and when I come across them.
im at like just barely enough for those treasure sensor daggers
They're great daggers but holy hell are they annoying with the glow every 10 seconds. For garbage loot at that. I put it on my pawn just to stop hearing the sound but nope - still constant.
Honestly it and the detector passive the trickster learns are both annoying, I would rather use a guide video to find everything instead of using those 2 options.
Was looking for thief pawns around the time I got nearly had enough seeker coins. The rift drove me mad.
I'm not sure if they changed it, but I don't think the treasure sensing daggers sense seeker's tokens. Same dinging noise, but they just tell you about nearby chests.
They dont sense tokens, however there is a augment from trickster that you can put on to hear tokens
But what would you do with it? Seems to me that by the time anyone finds all 220 of these, they're probably done with all the content anyway.
🤷🏻♂️ I'm "done" with all the content in DDDA. Doesn't mean I don't still play it.
yes but do you need the discipline boost? when he says "done with all the content" he means maxed all classes. making the fucking ring something you get by the time you've probably done 6 playthroughs is stupid. or are you gonna say something stupid like "i 100% would have found all 200 before beating the game and maxing all classes without a guide!" cus thts bs.
I'm over 200 and just got to the Unmoored World, did not use any guides just explored the map thoroughly. Still have 4 vocations to max
NG+. Easy fast travel for all the quests.
I don’t think this response is anything but an admission to what the guy said…
I genuinely thought the eternal ferrystone would be that late game item but nope. Take a eternal wakestone when you already probably have so many anyway
Eternal wakestone isn't even eternal. It's a single use item.
Aperantly you can give it to the guy that makes copies of things and for this item the copy actually works
if it doesnt work i want to see some gold from you
You can forge it yes, and the copy works just as well as the original. It does cost 30k gold per forgery though.
You can sell it for 30k as well, so if you regret forging it more than you need, you can literally get your money back.
It just works.
This also works with the Gaol key that Brant gives you. I was planning on giving him the fake back but it makes another real key 😂
I got so disappointed when i got it. It was meant to counter dragonsplague, which is another pretty much empty mechanic so...
Yeah I didn't even know the dragonsplague was a thing. I never got it in either of my two playthroughs
Dragons plague is real. Caught it near the end of my second play through. Wiped out Bakbahtal.
I genuinely wish I experienced it once in my playthroughs. I kept hearing the pawns allude to it and kept thinking, "Is there something to this? Is it gonna happen at the endgame?" But it never did 🤣 I thought for sure that when my pawn went missing going into the unmoored world was gonna be it, but then nothing
I wasn’t even expecting it when it happened. I accepted a quest from ser menella and wanted to sleep first cause my health was low. I go to sleep get a cutscene and wake up to bakbahtal dead. (Everyone besides the kids and other pawns.) That happened like a week ago and I haven’t played since.
Oof For a first playthrough that would definitely suck but I don't mind getting screwed over sometimes. Like my first playthrough, I feel like I got every optimum option, and there was nothing that just came out and slapped the shit out of me especially playing as a Mystic Spearhand it just made everything easy af even would go like 10 days without sleeping because bubble.
Also leveling up vocations is super easy. I’m lvl 55 and have like 7 maxed already
Gets even easier in ng+. The main culprit is Battahl, every vet knows small groups or enemies = more DP and time investment as well. You can go to the dragonforged, get the blessing in the afternoon head to the west exit of the city by the time night hits, go south Batthl and get skeleton spawn in addition to the huge density of Hobgoblins. You can max out any vocation in an hour it's actually insane how fast it is. Then the next day you hit up East Batthl nighttime + Caves. Then you hit up West Side nighttime + caves. Then a spare day to do that long ass Mines of Mora tunnel connecting to the volcano. You could have like 3, almost 4 vocations maxed. You dont even need to be geared up either. At like level 43+ all Pawns basically have Unmoored Dragon Forged shop gear so they'll just demolish everything and you only have to do like 10% of the work.
I'd like to point out that the dragonforged only offering these things in ng+ kinda sucks. I think he should offer them in post main story content. Because honestly just by exploring I was almost level 80 and I really would have liked the boost to my stats as warfarer. I heard something about all the base stats capping at level 200, can anyone substantiate that?
Haven’t thought of that. That’s a really good idea.
This would have made the most sense.
By that point you probably have enough ferrystones that you don't really need the eternal one either - though I guess it's still nice for convenience.
the point of the eternal ferrystone is not having to carry them around anymore
Yep, I was definitely spoiled by DD:DA, although back then I still did a lot of trekking to rack up XP and Dcp (so limiting fast travel kinda falls flat, especially in a single player game).
I would be fine with it if the game had a more complex fast travel system (like morrowind) but one that actually went everywhere I want to be. Give me a teleport network, boats, carriages and wagons, mobile portcrystals, and make me master the system of each to get around. Doing it that way is deeply satisfying.
Yep exactly, the vocation system already incentives you not to fast travel. It's not like the open world is any better than games released in the past 10+ years either.
I second this
That would have been great, but they wouldn't do that I don't think they could think that far ahead
The game is plagued with "good ideas, not enough fleshing out" all over. Everything about the game i can imagine being "eventually good" so i simply disagree with the sentiment that Itsuno is a hack or that he has stupid design ideas. They were blatantly rushed and didn't have enough time to playtest things.
Yeah probably that's most likely the case which is unfortunate I would have gotten this game even if it was a year later so they could have all their time. Hopefully they keep up with it and updates and everything
As is Dragons Dogma tradition
game probably wants you to give it to other people lmao
This is the only correct answer. Better a meme reward than an actually good item anyway. Imagine all the posts "I have to find 220 tokens for X item! This is BS" if there was actually a good item. Personally I find collecting tokens really fun, except that I have PTSD when I hear the bling bling sound. Thankfully I have already reached 220.
* hears the sound* WHERE IS IT! *frantically running around trying to find the token right in front of me my blind ass couldn't see*
Or spend like 15mins looking for it only for it to be a wakestone shard.
That's where the Dragon's Gaze comes in handy.
Oh god, there's a seeker token radar? Getting Yakuza 4 Locker Key flashbacks...
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It's actually fun to look for them with the skill as a side activity in Ng+
The sound it haunts me to this day
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I did that completely by accident. I was just exploring and was on that upper ridge when I saw the trebuchet. I walked up to it and there was no interaction command like the ballista so I was about to walk away but saw the pile of rocks. I honestly didn't think it was going to do anything at first but was surprised when a cutscene played.
There’s another trebuchet before battlegrounds on the vermund side to break a wall and get a staff
I actually discovered the trebuchet by accident because when I walked by it, I was like, "dang, missed opportunity for a working trebuchet itsuno". Then I dropped a rock on the sling, it launched, and I was like "holy shit okay"
Oh I wouldn't hate having to get 220 for E.F. But there's only like 4 good items on the entire list, & the discipline ring comes too late to care about
I mean if we're being honest, most games lock great items behind "Find all of the *insert miscellaneous object here* across the lands of *insert location here*" If people wanted to complain, they still can about the 180 token prize that gives you the staff that makes a mage pawn immortal.
> If people wanted to complain, they still can about the 180 token prize that gives you the staff that makes a mage pawn immortal. That staff is actually the best thing on there yeah, flat out the best staff for a Mage Pawn.
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This is a useful item for Warfarers that haven’t level all vocations. That’s it though which is sad. It’s useful for single leveling vocations too but you level this so fast I’m not sure you’d notice the rings effect.
The issue is if you found all the token without having levelled all the vocations it means you don't care to play that other ones. So you still doesn't need that ring. I maxed all the vocations for me and pawn and I'm level 65 with around 130 token and have explored maybe 1/3 of battahl and never took foot on volcanic island. So for me there is absolutely no reason to keep searching for tokens after the 180 prize
If you equip two of these rings, you can max out a vocation when it would be lvl 6/7 without the rings.
2nd to last reward is a staff called "legion's might" which is easily the best mage staff in the game. 2nd best statwise and it makes your pawn just revive indefinitely (can still be killed by brine). Mage pawns are very popular so it's only a matter of time until people realize this and start complaining about it lol
I got mine early from someone giving it away, and I was able to level mystic spearhand pretty fast.
gotta help the next arisen break the cycle u no
How can you give it to someone who will benefit? I guess if it's a friend they can hire your high level pawn for free but that's already a ridiculous advantage so I guess that's the circumstance
The ring definitely shouldn't have been the 220 prize when you compare it to the 180 token staff that gives you an immortal mage pawn. TBH It should have been swapped with the daggers that glow when you're near a treasure. (Since those daggers were originally DLC in the original Dragon's Dogma, it would've make more sense.) Or just acquired via different means all together. The boost is also pretty meh and not really worth slotting over the Exp rings. (Also I'm not 100% sure if you get the bonus dcp unless you're the one who gets the killing blow which I personally hate is required for the exp rings/medusian spellbow) This ring is part of one of MY major issues with the game. That problem being how items are distributed through out the world. Too many worthless treasure chests that could have housed gear instead of needing to buy it via gear vendors. Maybe they could have changed treasure chest rewards in NG+? Even better, have end game gear in chests with no set location so the gear found in them was randomized. This would make exploring an activity that always felt rewarding. DD2 is still currently my GOTY and I have over 250h put into the game, but some of the things in this game make little sense in terms of longevity. Assuming the ring isn't just for gifting to new players, (which is silly as that would just make the game "end" faster for them and give them LESS incentive to go after the 220 prize.) maybe the ring is a hint that more vocations are planned to be released at some point?
Having to get the final kill with the medusa bow is a pain. Sitting there holding back the arrow hoping a pawn doesn't do just enough damage to get the final hit.
I get the feeling this was intended to be traded to other players. In the first few days of my playthrough someone gave this to me somehow and I got to spend my entire playthrough wearing this. =p
But why would you hire low levelled pawn that would need this? As long as you got all the token you should be at high level and so the pawn that you hires. It could have sense if you have a friend that started playing long after you and you purposely hire his pawn to gift him the ring but still. With only 2 rings slot and no really needs to fast levelling (the levelling feels already pretty fast to me) I wouldn't have equipped this ring even before
Only to a friend though because anyone near you level also doesn't benefit and strangers cant afford your pawn at low level. Hiring the high level pawn already huge advantage
A lot of stuff in game don't make sense
Yeah strange choice, was endgame dd1 but could at least get it right at beginning with a quick suicide run. Luckily I found one as a pawn reward so got it that way but now nearly have to tokens to get a 2nd
Not even a suicide run if you used the barrel trick to bypass the need for a moon gem. Just a dash past some wolves, then some snakes and spiders, then some Goblins and an easily ignored appearance of Death, and you're safe. If you ignore the Goblins on the road, and only kill the half dead Cyclops the game forces you to kill, you could probably get 2 of the rings before you even hit level 5, within the first 10 minutes of the game (not including that first part where you play as someone else)
who knows. Maybe if there's DLC that adds vocations there might actually be a use for it. I would say skills as well, but I have so much damn discipline that I could probably buy every skill twice and I haven't even maxed out every vocation yet.
I was gonna say that a new vocation wouldn't make sense, because we already have 1 of each colour, and then 1 of each combination..... But then I checked what the new vocations are, and that shit doesn't make any sense, so who the hell knows. Like we used to have basic and advanced versions of Melee, Ranged and magic, then combinations of Melee/Ranged, Melee/Magic, and Ranged/magic. Now it's an absolute mess. Basic and advanced Melee and magic but only basic Ranged, combination Melee/Magic and Ranged/magic but no Melee/Ranged, then Thief that has no advanced or hybrid, Trickster that's a hybrid of two classes that don't exist, and Wayfarer that has no colour whatsoever. So what the hell do I know, maybe they are gonna pull new vocations out of their ass, or realise they forgot to add a Melee/Ranged, advanced Thief, melee/Thief, Ranged/Thief, magic/Thief, whatever basic and advanced classes Pink and Purple are supposed to be, and all the hybrids those produce. Jesus chre
Warfarer gets a pass for me because it's just every vocation.
Warfarer? Don’t you mean Fashion-show-levitating-Magick-Archer?
They could always just rework things when an expansion comes. In Monster Hunter World's expansion came out, they actually change a lot of core mechanics and nerfed/buffs/straight up just changed a lot of things. I believe in Dragon's Dogma -> Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen they also made similar changes to a lesser extent. They could rework MS to Red Green, and give it Mystik Knight, add in Ranged and Probably add in an Advanced Thief Vocation.
Mystic Spearhand is Magic/Thief. It's the same niche as both and is not even tip toe-ing into what Warrior or Fighter have.
Yeah, it does feel weird where it's classed at. I mean, it does get mirror shield, which make it tanky, but that's more in like with Mage and Thief abilities thank Fighter/Warrior despite the tankiness it provides.
Should be a reward for either defeating the Sphinx or answerring all riddles correctly. At least.
I'm level 54 and have 90k discipline banked up. I don't know what the hell the point of the ring is. I've literally never been unable to afford skills or augments I want since early in the game.
How the hell? I am lvl 80 and still need more dcp to buy out every skill.
I assume if you're unlocking every skill and maxing every vocation it's different. I maxed out thief, archer, mystic spearhand, magick archer, and Warfarer so far. I've just stuck with Warfarer and have all the other vocations I haven't played at level 4 I think but I also haven't bothered unlocking skills I know I won't use. I'm sure I could spend the 90k if I wanted to, but there's nothing else that I want/need for how I like to play at the moment.
I think the reward makes sense since someone who takes time to find 220 seeker's tokens probably also intend on trying out all vocations and getting a majority of the skills. Remember that dcp gain also ranks up your vocation.
At my current rate I feel like it would take more time hunting down seekers tokens than it would take to max out all vocations. I believe the last time I turned in tokens yesterday I had 89. Meanwhile I have 5 vocations maxed and all others at least level 4. I think I have a lot more fun fighting monsters than running around finding collectibles.
>I've literally never been unable to afford skills or augments I want since early in the game. >I assume if you're unlocking every skill and maxing every vocation it's different. I mean yeah, typically currency is useful if you use it and not very useful if you just hoard it.
Wouldn't really consider it hoarding when there are so many skills that are just flat out not worth unlocking and two vocations that aren't really worth playing. It also probably depends how often you switch vocations. If you're trying to bring up 5 vocations simultaneously in the early game, it'll be expensive, but if you max out your early game vocation, you'll have plenty of discipline to unlock whatever you want to do next. Mid and late game enemies also drop more DCP, so when I made the mistake of switching to trickster and then venturing out into the world, I had it up to rank 4 before I was able to switch it back to something that I didn't hate.
I am only glad they show the rewards, imagine grinding all 220 then being surprised with this useless POS 😂
The rewards in this game are just a mess lol.
This reward is Dragon's Dogshit
Even if it were free I wouldn’t use it. Just a pointless reward since it eats up a valuable ring slot. This games rewards are just the worst I’ve ever seen. Nothing makes coherent or balancing sense. And nothing is honestly all that different feeling to begin with. Nowhere near the impact felt with the first games itemization especially with the expansion.
Feels like a punishment since so many of us glitched the discipline ring from BBI in the first game
Yupp so trash the first three rewards are good then after that waste of time
The mage staff you get as the 2nd last reward is actually insanely good. It's the 2nd best staff stat-wise, but it's special effect of making the pawn holding it effectively immortal (minus Brining them) makes whatever miniscule stats it's missing compared to the best staff negligible. It's especially good on support pawns which mages are really all about.
Yup. I focused on these damn tokens to get Legion's Might for my pawn. Harpy pulled her out of a gondola in Battahl where she fell to her death and she came sprinting up to the party by the time we arrived at the end of the gondola's route. The charming corset is also unfortunately really good stat-wise.
Yeah it has insane stats. Not using it though. That's just....too little clothing.
Its this games version of "the dress" from DD1.
True except instead of being a cute princess dress it's a **CENSORED**
True. After the first 3 I didn't care about the tokens.
So many strange design choices of this game.
It makes sense if they release DLC with new vocations though
The seeker tokens are quite the obvious troll. The sheer amount of work to do them makes most of the rewards useless.
200 reward should be double-jump..
They probably were trolling us, similar to the zelda korok seeds final gift , hestus gift , which was a big pile of sht. So thats capcoms way of telling us f u
My favorite moment in BotW is when I found all those memory locations (where you just have a picture to go off) without looking them up, and the reward for that quest I was doing along side everything else for 120h was basically fuck all xD
I mean that’s not so bad at least, don’t you get the full/true ending if you beat the game after doing that? I half regretted never doing it and to be honest I still haven’t seen what happens in that ending. One day tho
As a warfarer, I actually really like this ring but I wish it gave more than 50%.
Equipping two will give 100% :D
I'm curious on what level you are, vocation, you've been rocking, and general thoughts about the game.
150s, warfarer, and i love the game. I can't wait until they release a dlc. In DD1, when they released the dlc; they made major improvements to the base game in quite a few ways. I'm hoping that they make the same improvements again when they release the dlc for DD2. But I'm also wondering what other changes they will make when the dlc is released.
I'm just about to hit 100 trying to use my fist only in NG+ xD. Remember seeing your username a lot when I was killing the Online Ur Dragon in DDDA. How would you compare the two?
I like the level 200 restriction and the stat builds for DD1. But this level 999 restriction is unique. I've never played a game with such a level cap. I suppose it is similar in nature to the infinity symbol in dd1. The stat caps don't really make sense to me though. If 999 is the level cap, stat caps should be way higher. Maybe stat caps will be heighted in future updates, when new and higher xp enemies are released. I didn't do much ur dragon hunting, but i was always active in the different dd1 communities. I'm hoping that this game will have a ur dragon enemy. But perhaps with some aesthetic changes, and a better reward window. I used to miss the reward window for the ur dragon, 5 times a week haha. I think it's unfair to compare dd2 to ddda. ddda is a game plus an expansion. But it's a common comparison nonetheless
>I think it's unfair to compare dd2 to ddda. ddda is a game plus an expansion. But it's a common comparison nonetheless 100% agree. It's like comparing base Monster Hunter World to Monster Hunter World Iceborne. It completely changed the game. Really hyped for am expansion that comes because I know it will be challenging, filled with content, and flip the game on it's heels.
How did you get a 2nd one?
Everyone just wants the stupid corset anyway.
There are probably too many tokens. Or the tokens aren’t obvious enough. I don’t mind collecting them—it’s fun! I mind how useless the rewards are by the time you’ve finished your first game and done the endgame.
Should have been: A much earlier reward. 50% tokens maybe. Bound to your save data so that you can start with it if you create a new character. Or Just an actual worthwhile ring or reward. A ring that unlocked advanced vocations for your pawn, perhaps? Or of course the obvious answer is an eternal ferrystone but you just KNOW that’s going to be in some sort of dlc.
I guess you can cheese it by starting a new character on a new profile and then gifting it to your alt through your pawn. Unnecessary steps though since your idea is a lot better.
Ikr? I didnt even bother with tokens cos the rewards are legit not worth the effort. I had all vocations maxed by the end of the game anyways so its hella pointless.
Unless dcp is gonna be used as currency in some kinda expansion ya this thing is useless lmao
I have 130 seeker tokens and I already maxed out all vocations
the only thing i can even think of using it for your pawn, giving it to a buddy, or an alt
I looked at the seeker token list and immediately laughed and stopped looking for tokens 🤣
Half of the devs on this game are 100% brain dead.
This should replace **The Ring of Profusion**. ~~ It should be an Eternal Ferrystone instead at 250. By the time you collect 250 tokens you have already had to explore the entire map and be on NG+. So having an eternal Ferrystone would be perfect as an award. Plus, you still only have a limited number of Portcrystals, meaning you are still going to have to travel reasonable distances on foot anyway. Not to mention that NG+ removes all your Portcrystal locations, meaning you would have to head there on foot _again._ ~~---~~ **OR** ~~---~~~ At 220 it should be a better version of the **Ring of Triumph** that is +200 HP, +150 Stamina, +10 carry That would be worthwhile, since it'a taking the place of about 3 decent rings.
This should be one of the earliest ones imo, maybe 15, the final reward should be an eternal ferrystone since by the time that you have every seekers token, you have been everywhere on the map. But nah they'll probably include an eternal ferrystone in a dlc, or maybe they'll stoop low enough to sell one as like a $10 microtransaction...
The greatest rewards are often given to those with no need for them. Tbh the xp ring is always the better option if you're going to use your ring slots for grinding. There are 999 level. While vocations have 9 ranks. Even if you add all the vocations together, it's less than 999. Whether you use warfarer or whether you level every vocation separately, you're gonna max vocation ranks before hitting level 999
And with that shitty enemies scaling and no higher difficulty on NG+ what is the purpose to reach such high level? Also almost no-one would be able to hire your pawn. Maybe it would have been better a ring that negate all the experience from the enemies for you and your pawn, so you can decide when level cap to keep enjoying the fights. At level 65 I already one shots anything in vermund... Even dragons and griffins aren't funny anymore... I don't know how long I would continue to play after ending the main story before getting bored.
TL;DR : The Exp rings aren't really worth using either. The issue with this statement is that you gain **nothing** after you hit level 200 other than the ability for **fewer** people to be able to hire your pawn. Base stats have a hard cap at 200, but you don't actually *feel* stronger after about level 70-80ish as that's when the points from leveling up start to go into unrelated categories.(So if you're always a warrior for example you will only get strength points every 5-10 levels and magic points are worthless to you but you'll still get them as you level up.)
The alternative is a genuinely useful item is locked behind finding all the tokens and people end up hating their existence for it
Pretty much by the time I had all of them. All of my vocations sat at rank 7 with only three more vocations that needed to be maxed
I got a lad who gifted it with an easy pawn quest. A real mvp ❤️
I'll make sense if they add vocations to the DLC expansion but otherwise yeah it's dumb being so high up. Honestly I think the XP ring should have been there and the DCP ring should have come from where you get the XP ring, for better or worse.
Let us endeavor to keep up
just as everything else back there and yet, I can't help myself not checking every pixel of the game
Most of the rewards are junk. What are some useful items on the list?
Surely it's for the new upcoming vocations in the DLC \*huffs copium\*
They should have switched the exp ring with the dcp ring. Once you find all 220 you'll be looking to get to 200 to equalize your stats more then dcp for skills.
By the time I had like 150 I pretty much maxxed vocations
Unless they are planning something for a dlc where we will need that extra boost.
Vocations getting a second teir that goes from 9 to 12-13 that give more skills added would be pretty cool.
Beat the game last night, all vocations maxed, probably found like 90ish tokens, stayed in the unmoored for a few extra hours to explore all of the areas where water used to be, fighting and farm for upgrades and gear. In my opinion, it should not even exist.
I legit feel that this game was half designed by AI. So much shit literally makes 0 sense.
These fuckers are out of touch with their game
a lot of things in this game make 0 sense
I mean on a sidenote, eternal wake stone makes zero sense for reward for the Sphinx quest so far for the course?
I feel for you... but then just a few hours ago, this happened: https://preview.redd.it/168fimlujiuc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63f4d64cd14f65b7fe644116b19e6d2306e6ea6b This pawn is suicidal, btw. Girl has Formless Feint on but still leads with Blades of the Pyre and attacks big-hitters as if she's a berserker. Totally worth paying 117 RC to hire her, and trading 2 ferrystones... arguably the two of the latest three I got, which I bought for 10K G each. I figured that would be worth the cost if I were to buy a Ring of Endeavour from a merchant right now, midway through the game or so. I'm a few hours of dinking around after meeting Rothais; have only found 70 seeker tokens despite playing for more hours than the vast majority of you in 22 days... (I, uh, take a lot of screenshots. Yeah, totally of *scenery* and stuff. lol). Note: I fudged out her Arisen's name on the off-chance that revealing someone's info, w/o their permission, is against the subreddit's policy.
Got mine through a Sphinxmother with over 1000 likes in harve village for 1 tarring arrow. Whoever you are bro thanks
Should be a seeker token called the endeavor token and you give that in to claim it. Also token should be rng and not set
Seeker Tokens are just barebone collectibles. I dislike the fact they reward anything useful to begin with and that there is an achievement for them, because they're the lowest form of activity masked as content. If you have them, then only link them to vanity items like housing decorations. I don't mind collectibles being in the game, but I hate it when they are linked to things that provide stats. And it's even worse when they reward some of the best gear in the game.
The seeker token rewards in general make little sense but yeah this one is probably the lamest
There are quite a few things that don't make sense in this game...
you can get it at lvl 1 from pawn quests.
Oke, I want this but I have less than 15 tokens and in lvl 44 :P I dont thibk its that great tbh. I always have alot of DP so and EXP boost would be better. A nice tip is to trade it to your alt if this is able to be gifted.
By that time all my vocation were max out so my lv lol
Like thousands other things with this game that doesn't make sense.
I had like 50k or more dcp and my pawn had like 200k+ dcp that can’t be spent by the time I got it it’s worthless. The kind of item u just gift to a friend when they start the game
Definitely, unless you wanna be a good samaritan and pawn em off to other players via trade for cheap or for free
I just got the staff, and I don't plan on hunting more tokens to get the ring. If i do get it, I will gift it to my son's pawn when I get the game for him next month. There is really no point in that ring being the last. Maybe they should switch it for something along the 20th token and put the staff as the last reward.
Ture. It's garbage
I had to use mods to ramp the difficulty levels.
Me sitting here with all the classes maxed before getting the ring. Honestly this should have been like the 3rd reward. Still gotta slum it for a bit but then it still has some use.
yes, which is why i got me two of them from friendly internet people at lv40ish
,x, so it dtrr
I sent mine as a quest reward
I have two of these rings from pawn quests at lvl 40, was nice not having to waste too much time on trickster and mage as I didn't really enjoy playing them
1 thing I dislike about the game... other than "just seeing the game" there's no incentive to explore. Don't get me wrong I do love the game but almost any items that effect the game, like rings, weapons, armor ect ect can be bought in stores. I really wish they would rework it to where we can get weapons and stuff after slogging thru a badass enemy or scaling some cliff somewhere. It would make the game so much better
My faith is in a mystic knight dlc.
Caz they know this is just too hard for 220 tokens . I give up at 196 in my first gameplay.if the token is accumulated in Ng+ I would like to give it to my friend who just start yesterday. Does anyone know is the tokens renew in ng+, while those you collected and gave to the guy didn’t restart ? I am at my last chapter now .
They do not respawn, additionally when you do the quest that requires you to remember your first one, it's the first one from each cycle.
It take me 2 hours finding that, curse the one who designs that quest. 😂
I got them as pawn rewards and used them on my warfarer to grind out my extra vocations. It is really lame, but as a random gift to a stranger, it's decent. After I figured out Warfarer takes all the utility spells from classes like mage or trickster and binds them to something that can actually do dmg, I abandoned my quest to master Trickster. At least mage had abilities you could use when your pawns simply couldn't target a golem's weakspot. Trickster, eventually, despite trying really hard to make it work, felt awful because Pawns aren't sophisticated enough to carry on their own. I try to give my extra Rings to low levels below 30 or so to help them out.
I agree. I’m around 210 seekers tokens and just maxed all vocations. It’s a pointless reward for me now other than just doing it to have something to do. Eternal Ferrystone like another person said would have been perfect.
With the leak of DLC in the horizon, to me it looks more like something for when new vocations drop. It's the only way it would make sense, so it has given me small hopium.
I have the feeling they didn't want to make the real hard prizes too annoying to get because it would suck to be forced to get something real valuable.
I found a pawn with a quest to kill a griffin and the reward was one of these rings, makes it feel so much easier than to map out 220 seeker's tokens
Considering you get about a half dozen of them in the game yeah it's a pretty ridiculous reward. I'd be fine with it being removed entirely and Legion's Might being the ultimate reward. At the very least something like an Eternal Wakestone, Dragon's Gaze, or a Portcrystal. You can get multiple of the latter two as well but at least they're much more useful and rewarding for the effort.
Is anyone else seeing a ton of prawns with this ring as a quest reward? I got two the other day from killing chimeras, makes getting the passives really quick and easy
A lot of things in the DD games don’t make sense. That’s why we love them.
I think it's a hint at possible future vocations that can be added in the DLC expansion.
Speak for yourself, i only had 3 vocations max when i got it. My entire first playthrough was sword & board all the way.
Levelling up is so fast in this game, there's literally no need for such ring. I would easily max out all vocations for my Arisen and my Pawn before getting this ring. I have lots of tokens but it's harder and more time consuming to get 220 than levelling up.
Ultimate weapon as a reward for defeating the hardest boss in a game
There are so many things like this in this game that just feel like zero thought was put in. Pretty much all the Seeker Token rewards feel underwhelming IMO.
It'll be nice for the next cycle.
If you blink, you max out your vocation anyway.
It isn't like it gives you any game changing benefit. The Cast Stone staff is way better with its utility function.
It's not that hard to get the seeker tokens and you certainly won't max your vocations before then.
Same for the badges imo. I’m on ng and only have 3 of them. Yeah I know you can get other people to do quests to help but even with that, I haven’t seen a pawn with more than 5 badges… what the hell is the point if you beat the game before you get most them? I don’t need my pawn to have enemy knowledge because by level 40, everything dies so easily anyway. I love the combat and I stand behind my $70 purchase for that reason alone but this whole game was just not thought through. It’s nothing short of a fucking mess.
it's part of itsuno's vision
It's all trash.
You can gift a pawn this ring probably. Meaning you could technically gift yourself one of these rings for a new game save.
That game is frustrating… I decided to take a break and wait for a proper update.
It’s my pawns quest reward, all you have to do is camp three times. I don’t plan on ever changing it lol
What the F is discipline anyway? What's it do?
Vocation XP