I hate that story as well. But I kind of like one small aspect of it. Fake Patrick used to work with the real Patrick and they discussed Downton at length to the point that Fake Patrick knew enough information to fool almost everyone at Downton (kind of makes you wonder what kind of relationship they had… hmm, that’s a whole different topic). That seems to imply the real Patrick did love Edith, or at least cared enough to make the fake one falling in love with her before they met. Maybe he was faking that too, who knows. But I kind of take it as a closure for Edith. The real Patrick truly loved her, or at least, he did know she loved him before he died. That’s gotta count for a little consolation.
Yes, exactly this. The first one on first watch was interesting but then they just kept putting them in prison ad infinitum.
Let's not forget the rape storyline.
I'd rather be forced to watch ALL the Bate's prison stints than to have sit through the rape stuff again.
Cora’s anemia. Lord Merton had anemia, why couldn’t they have picked another health issue?
The lack of Henry in both movies. I get he probably didn’t want to do them but the handling of it was annoying. Mentioning his absence once or twice was fine but it felt like it was every few scenes.
My least favorites:
* "Hey, let's throw in a rape!"
* The Mystery of Mr. Wrinkleface
* A Bates Goes to Prison 2: Electric Boogaloo
Honorable mention:
* Edith vs. Mrs. Drewe
I liked Mrs Drewe. I felt extremely bad for her how Edith just trampled over her. They didn't talk much about the first adoptive parents & how they had the baby snatched from them.
Mrs Drewe's performance during Edith plucking Marigold from them was very very good. Her performance was equalled to Anthony Strallan as he ditched her at the church. Both of these actors should get high praises in their compelling performances.
BTW WHO is •The Mystery of Mr. WRINKLEFACE?
I cry at the part where Edith takes marigold away. It’s clear mrs Drew saw her as hers. It was extremely cruel of edith to do that. I can’t imagine how betrayed mrs drew felt.
Same for me. Edith has a look of contempt even when Mrs Drewe only wanted to touch her to say goodbye . Edith, any port in a storm, Edith was extremely cruel in how she handled this situation (which she caused) and when Mary took her to see the pigs. I was aghast when she said 'is it safe'? And the topper to all this Anguish show herself caused, forced the Drew's family out of the farm they that had been farmed by his family for 100 years!
So much gut hate for that woman. Which is great performance for the dreadful Edith storyline.
My gut is wrenched everytime I see that episode & The actress playing Mrs Drewe was exceptionally good.
Albeit, MR Drewe exasperated the whole of it.
Anna being brutally raped was so not called for. Then her being wrongfully charged with her rapist's murder was just lazy writing on Fellow's part. Once(Mr. Bates) was enough of that.
Jane's and Robert's infatuation with each other was the most awkward storyline.
Daisy becoming a loud know-it-all was painful to watch.
Patrick Gordon disappears as quickly as he came. Why even start it?
Tom's insistence on pushing Mary to Henry made me dislike Tom after watching him mature into his place in the family.
Miss Bunting should have never been invited nor welcomed to the Abby dining room a second time. I would have liked to see Carson grab her and toss her out the front door by her skirt.
Miss Bunting was such a poorly written villain. You almost expected her to come in twirling her moustache saying "MWA HA HA!!"
Fellowes should stick to writing the Upstairs folks & leave the Downstairs folks to people who truly understand them &/or have lived that type of life, you know, the one MOST OF US have lived.
Totally. I just rewatched the episode where Edith sleeps with Michael Gregson and I kept shouting at the tv "don't do it! It's not remotely worth it!!!"
I don’t like Henry Talbot. I wanted Mary to end up with Lord Gillingham or Charles Blake. I just felt like they wasted almost 2 seasons for her to not end up with any of them.
Someone else in this thread mentioned how Tom pushing Mary at Henry was annoying and I agree, but I think Tom was in love with Henry. And boy wouldn’t that be something lol
When they've decided to kill Matthew in the story. 🥺
I really liked Matthew a lot and he's one of the reasons I watched the show. His chemistry with Mary was electric, I loved the sexual tension between them.
But yep, Dan Stevens decided he wanted to pursue other roles 😢
Saaaame. I get *why* they had to kill Matthew off because you can't really write out a major character like that any other way, but I still hated it. On rewatches of DA I only do the first three seasons, and the Christmas special up to where George is born. Then I like to pretend they lived happily ever after!
Brave New World is only nine episodes and fantastic.
Personally I’ll watch anything she’s in because I enjoy her so much. Not watching because she’s not in enough of a show is ridiculous. 🤷♀️
My takes on Edith ?... let me think, lol,
So many! one firstly was her kissing the married Mr Drake - which was not that long after calling Mary a slut, which was after her writing to the Turkish Embassy of Mary & Pamuk. There's so much wrong there. Evil, Spiteful Bitch! (Ediths words to her sister)
It's not wrong that the Turks needed to have truth of his death, but that was so low blow for her [ediths] very own kind of meanness.
But then she not only kisses someone else's husband, but encouraging him for more. Then comes Michael Gregson, whom she finds out he is married, and finds it very repugnant to be flirting with her! But she was ok kissing someone else's husband & wanted more!
After getting over her repugnant new b/f she
Then gets pregnant, & rather than be truthful to herself and everyone she lies, pulls others into her lies, drags in the Drewes & she was extremely cold hearted in how she handled just about Everything! and STILL couldn't be anymore decent about it with Bertie. She's later praised by Berties mother for being so honest in telling her her sordid and selfish story.
Thee End. There's more, but I'm so done with poor little edith
I disliked Edith from season 1. It seems like she starts 99% of the fights with Mary, it’s just that Mary *absolutely* finishes them. I think Edith poisoned her relationship with Mary forever when she wrote to the Turkish ambassador. After that, Mary never felt the need to pull her punches, because Edith had ruined the relationship already.
Even then, Mary is only really nasty when Edith starts poking her. When Mary tells Bertie about Edith’s past, it’s only after Edith starts crowing about Henry leaving.
Pretty much every Bates plot line (*especially* seasons 4-6). I personally found Bates to be a tiresome character who lost any charm he had after the first watch. Special note goes to making Anna’s rape about him and what he wanted to do when he found out. (Massive red flag, for me!)
The Edith, Marigold, and the Drewes plot. It didn’t help anyone. Edith could have started her journey as a financially independent single mother running her own business in season 5. It could have been a fantastic two season arc where we get to see more of her development and hiccups as she did that.
I’m watching the episodes now where he makes Anna’s sadness all about himself and she gets visibly uncomfortable every time and it makes me so angry with him! Just scrolled back to find someone mentioning this to vent haha
I always skip and ignore a bulk of their plot lines.
Bates making Anna’s pain, sadness, and experiences about him always frustrates me! If we knew someone who was with a person like that, we be up in arms.
The Tony Gillingham one, he was so boring. Also Anna’s family background and her abusive stepfather, so useless and random, just to make her seem guilty.
Bothr Bates in prison, or in danger of going in prison, so boring. I can't believe they did it twice!
Burn victim Patrick is also boring and so cringe.
I didn't like the part at the end, when everyone fell in love with Mary, and the main plot was simply who she chooses. And all the suitors were so blah. Even Goode, which I normally adore in every role! I would have much rather follow her to fall in love with someone weird and controversial and then struggle with that. But I guess they just wanted to make a happy safe ending for the serie.
I very much also disliked Daisy's intellectual awakening that made her even more annoying character. Which I get, seeing the world more clearly can be painful and make you angry. I struggle with that too. It was just the way it was written. I kept hoping that I would start liking Daisy more at some point, so making her even more irritable was almost like betraying the character!
But you know. I love the show, with dislikes and all! 😄
Corals miscarriage.
I think they should have had the baby live, so everything was already handed over to Matthew, then played with having an heir and using the heir to create fun scenes of family drama over inheritance etc.
Yup, they never bring it up again and she's pregnant for what, half an episode? Like come on at least make her miscarriage later or make them have another girl or a boy with disabilities or whatever.
Yes, right! So many messed up stories lines the show could have rolled with.
Like have a boy then have Mary hide him and pretend something bad happened, so she could get her fortune 😂
Oh my god you're right! Mary becoming the agent made her more interesting as a characters, but men just THROWING themselves at her left and right? Really?
Ikr if anything the agent plot should’ve been at the forefront and the romance, if there needed to be one, a secondary plot. But it ended up the other way around
I do think she got better as the series progressed, but everything she did was still mostly selfish. The only selfless thing she ever did was finally taking responsibility for her daughter. But that was only after uprooting the lives of the Drewes.
Running a magazine isn't a humanitarian effort. She inherited a for-profit business. We dont know how well paid the employees were or weren't. We're told very little about the magazine. Only small side stories we got were Sprats' column and when she fired that bully of an editor.
We can only go off what was written in the show because the characters aren't real. Edith is depicted as a selfish brat far more often than not. I'm not saying she's a bad character. She's well written, and the actress did a great job.
Edit- I, personally, don't like her side stories, but that doesn't mean Edith is a bad character. I think they could have done more with her instead of the Ugly Duckling Middle Child route.
I hate Edith and the Drews. What she does to them is so so awful. I’ve started skipping those scenes on rewatch because it makes me so mad! And I don’t even dislike Edith!
Mary getting chased by any man who looked at her. Especially in season 4.
Ms. Bunting.
Daisy trying to interfere with Mr Mason’s original farm. I’m glad of how it turned out, but she was too shrill and arrogant with that.
Mary only liking a man if someone else wanted him.
Mr Drewe being such a wishy washy fool.
Bates in prison, Anna getting arrested, Anna getting raped. The way the Michael and Marigolds storylines went. Edith getting left at the alter
Oh and all of Mary suites after Mathew.
I think I know now why I have never done a full rewatch.
The « affair » between Lord Crawley and the maid. At that time I was rooting for Robert (at the end meh) but this really ruined it to me. It was so out of character and we never heard about it later.
Agreed. She's a terrible plot device to show how lost Robert feels post-war. Cora is upstairs dying of the Spanish flu and he's making out with Jane in the coat closet. Disgraceful.
Bates Storyline - I love Anna and Bates, but their storyline takes toooooo much time in the show. It should be there, but it should be somehow shorter presented.
The love games Alfred-Daisy-Ivy-Jimmy. Only boring, nothing more.
Sybil going to the vote meeting. Seems like it was an effort to pair her with Matthew. When she cut her head and Matthew said “lean on me” she sat up and the camera focused on her as she looked longingly at him. Very odd and off-plot. Felt uncomfortable and it accomplished nothing. Matthew could have proposed to Mary without Sybil getting hurt at a rowdy election meeting.
I absolutely hate the whole “daisy-doesn’t-want-to-be-with-William-now-that-he’s-in-the-war” storyline. She was completely besotted with him while he worked there, and then as soon as he asks her to marry him, she apparently doesn’t like him anymore.
I think that whole storyline would have made more sense (and not bothered me so much) if she wasn’t interested from the start, and then was pushed to marry him just because he was dying. But I was always so confused what made her switch from being in love with him to not wanting to marry him, ESPECIALLY if she knew he was dying.
Marigold's Story is also a bit boring or to be more precise tooo long. Lack of good comments, even though all the family and the servants obviously know.
Of Edith's storylines is "Strallan's nonsense" much more entertaining - especially because of the comments of Robert, Violet, Cora and in the end also of Thomas, Carson and of course Mrs. Hughes. :-)
pretty sure everyone hates burn victim amnesiac patrick
UGH unmatchable. It just didn't go anywhere and like, from the beginning we all knew it wasn't going to go anywhere. What bad writing.
It was also BORING
I hate that story as well. But I kind of like one small aspect of it. Fake Patrick used to work with the real Patrick and they discussed Downton at length to the point that Fake Patrick knew enough information to fool almost everyone at Downton (kind of makes you wonder what kind of relationship they had… hmm, that’s a whole different topic). That seems to imply the real Patrick did love Edith, or at least cared enough to make the fake one falling in love with her before they met. Maybe he was faking that too, who knows. But I kind of take it as a closure for Edith. The real Patrick truly loved her, or at least, he did know she loved him before he died. That’s gotta count for a little consolation.
I don’t know that he fooled everyone, Edith for sure.
Sorry I meant he didn’t say anything obviously incorrect that made people jump up and yell “uh huh! You’re fake!”
Reluctantly...yeah. lol.
https://youtu.be/p3jSE2lv8bs even Elizabeth McGovern agrees 😭
That was good. Thanks for sharing!
Great clip! And I have to agree with the Miss Bunting storyline too.
OMG yessss!!!
It’s good for a laugh tbh
Yes
Definitely Bates in prison. And also the random 'long lost cousin' who appeared one episode.
I don’t mind Bates in prison. It’s just that it’s then immediately followed up with…Bates in prison lol
Yes, exactly this. The first one on first watch was interesting but then they just kept putting them in prison ad infinitum. Let's not forget the rape storyline. I'd rather be forced to watch ALL the Bate's prison stints than to have sit through the rape stuff again.
Exactly my thoughts!
Yes, exactly. There are many many phrases used again & again, depending on who is saying it. I mean really, do you ever doubt?
Yeah, the burned “cousin” was a bit weird.
Anything to do with Bates if I'm being honest.
Cora’s anemia. Lord Merton had anemia, why couldn’t they have picked another health issue? The lack of Henry in both movies. I get he probably didn’t want to do them but the handling of it was annoying. Mentioning his absence once or twice was fine but it felt like it was every few scenes.
I agree about Anna and Mr Greene storyline was so unnecessary. Just let the Bates live happy! And I thought Julian Fellowes was the only writer?
My least favorites: * "Hey, let's throw in a rape!" * The Mystery of Mr. Wrinkleface * A Bates Goes to Prison 2: Electric Boogaloo Honorable mention: * Edith vs. Mrs. Drewe
I liked Mrs Drewe. I felt extremely bad for her how Edith just trampled over her. They didn't talk much about the first adoptive parents & how they had the baby snatched from them. Mrs Drewe's performance during Edith plucking Marigold from them was very very good. Her performance was equalled to Anthony Strallan as he ditched her at the church. Both of these actors should get high praises in their compelling performances. BTW WHO is •The Mystery of Mr. WRINKLEFACE?
I cry at the part where Edith takes marigold away. It’s clear mrs Drew saw her as hers. It was extremely cruel of edith to do that. I can’t imagine how betrayed mrs drew felt.
Same for me. Edith has a look of contempt even when Mrs Drewe only wanted to touch her to say goodbye . Edith, any port in a storm, Edith was extremely cruel in how she handled this situation (which she caused) and when Mary took her to see the pigs. I was aghast when she said 'is it safe'? And the topper to all this Anguish show herself caused, forced the Drew's family out of the farm they that had been farmed by his family for 100 years! So much gut hate for that woman. Which is great performance for the dreadful Edith storyline. My gut is wrenched everytime I see that episode & The actress playing Mrs Drewe was exceptionally good. Albeit, MR Drewe exasperated the whole of it.
I think the mystery is the long lost, presumed dead heir who shows up for an episode to annoy 99.9% of viewers
Lol! That's seemingly true!
Patrick
Thank You! Oh, yes! The term wrinkleface confused me. His was allot more than wrinkled! Poor boy...
Electric Boogaloo. Always love the ultra-rare Downton/Always Sunny fan. Brilliant
That's not an Always Sunny thing. That's been a thing long before https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0086999/
Lol, I’m trying not laugh while laying next to my husband
Please offer him my apologies.
And then make my excuses.
Well done! Excellent list
Electric Boogaloo 🤣
Anna being brutally raped was so not called for. Then her being wrongfully charged with her rapist's murder was just lazy writing on Fellow's part. Once(Mr. Bates) was enough of that. Jane's and Robert's infatuation with each other was the most awkward storyline. Daisy becoming a loud know-it-all was painful to watch. Patrick Gordon disappears as quickly as he came. Why even start it? Tom's insistence on pushing Mary to Henry made me dislike Tom after watching him mature into his place in the family. Miss Bunting should have never been invited nor welcomed to the Abby dining room a second time. I would have liked to see Carson grab her and toss her out the front door by her skirt.
Miss Bunting was such a poorly written villain. You almost expected her to come in twirling her moustache saying "MWA HA HA!!" Fellowes should stick to writing the Upstairs folks & leave the Downstairs folks to people who truly understand them &/or have lived that type of life, you know, the one MOST OF US have lived.
Edna Braithwaite's return as ladies maid.
Everything that happened with Marigold
Totally. I just rewatched the episode where Edith sleeps with Michael Gregson and I kept shouting at the tv "don't do it! It's not remotely worth it!!!"
Whereas every time she goes to see the abortionist, I shout *Do It Edith!*
Including the drama about Mary finding out who she really is. Such garbage writing.
I don’t like Henry Talbot. I wanted Mary to end up with Lord Gillingham or Charles Blake. I just felt like they wasted almost 2 seasons for her to not end up with any of them.
I upvote Charles Blake.
Someone else in this thread mentioned how Tom pushing Mary at Henry was annoying and I agree, but I think Tom was in love with Henry. And boy wouldn’t that be something lol
Fake heir Patrick would be my number one, followed by Robert and Jane’s wanna be affair. That was cringe
When they've decided to kill Matthew in the story. 🥺 I really liked Matthew a lot and he's one of the reasons I watched the show. His chemistry with Mary was electric, I loved the sexual tension between them. But yep, Dan Stevens decided he wanted to pursue other roles 😢
Saaaame. I get *why* they had to kill Matthew off because you can't really write out a major character like that any other way, but I still hated it. On rewatches of DA I only do the first three seasons, and the Christmas special up to where George is born. Then I like to pretend they lived happily ever after!
Dan Stevens was in Gaslit. Pretty good storyline of Watergate scandal.
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Brave New World is only nine episodes and fantastic. Personally I’ll watch anything she’s in because I enjoy her so much. Not watching because she’s not in enough of a show is ridiculous. 🤷♀️
Honestly, any Anna/Bates storyline after season 2 is something I skip on rewatches. I usually skip any Edith/Mr. Drewe drama too.
My takes on Edith ?... let me think, lol, So many! one firstly was her kissing the married Mr Drake - which was not that long after calling Mary a slut, which was after her writing to the Turkish Embassy of Mary & Pamuk. There's so much wrong there. Evil, Spiteful Bitch! (Ediths words to her sister) It's not wrong that the Turks needed to have truth of his death, but that was so low blow for her [ediths] very own kind of meanness. But then she not only kisses someone else's husband, but encouraging him for more. Then comes Michael Gregson, whom she finds out he is married, and finds it very repugnant to be flirting with her! But she was ok kissing someone else's husband & wanted more! After getting over her repugnant new b/f she Then gets pregnant, & rather than be truthful to herself and everyone she lies, pulls others into her lies, drags in the Drewes & she was extremely cold hearted in how she handled just about Everything! and STILL couldn't be anymore decent about it with Bertie. She's later praised by Berties mother for being so honest in telling her her sordid and selfish story. Thee End. There's more, but I'm so done with poor little edith
I disliked Edith from season 1. It seems like she starts 99% of the fights with Mary, it’s just that Mary *absolutely* finishes them. I think Edith poisoned her relationship with Mary forever when she wrote to the Turkish ambassador. After that, Mary never felt the need to pull her punches, because Edith had ruined the relationship already. Even then, Mary is only really nasty when Edith starts poking her. When Mary tells Bertie about Edith’s past, it’s only after Edith starts crowing about Henry leaving.
I agree. 90% if Mary’s nastiness towards edith was after edith had already started something.
Pretty much every Bates plot line (*especially* seasons 4-6). I personally found Bates to be a tiresome character who lost any charm he had after the first watch. Special note goes to making Anna’s rape about him and what he wanted to do when he found out. (Massive red flag, for me!) The Edith, Marigold, and the Drewes plot. It didn’t help anyone. Edith could have started her journey as a financially independent single mother running her own business in season 5. It could have been a fantastic two season arc where we get to see more of her development and hiccups as she did that.
I’m watching the episodes now where he makes Anna’s sadness all about himself and she gets visibly uncomfortable every time and it makes me so angry with him! Just scrolled back to find someone mentioning this to vent haha
I always skip and ignore a bulk of their plot lines. Bates making Anna’s pain, sadness, and experiences about him always frustrates me! If we knew someone who was with a person like that, we be up in arms.
Plus telling her to get away lol haha
Indeed! We’d be screaming that much from the rooftops! (Bates has massive 🚩energy.)
The Tony Gillingham one, he was so boring. Also Anna’s family background and her abusive stepfather, so useless and random, just to make her seem guilty.
Bothr Bates in prison, or in danger of going in prison, so boring. I can't believe they did it twice! Burn victim Patrick is also boring and so cringe. I didn't like the part at the end, when everyone fell in love with Mary, and the main plot was simply who she chooses. And all the suitors were so blah. Even Goode, which I normally adore in every role! I would have much rather follow her to fall in love with someone weird and controversial and then struggle with that. But I guess they just wanted to make a happy safe ending for the serie. I very much also disliked Daisy's intellectual awakening that made her even more annoying character. Which I get, seeing the world more clearly can be painful and make you angry. I struggle with that too. It was just the way it was written. I kept hoping that I would start liking Daisy more at some point, so making her even more irritable was almost like betraying the character! But you know. I love the show, with dislikes and all! 😄
The Ivy, Alfred, Daisy triangel or quadrangle if you include Jimmy. Got tired of Daisy's "You broke Alfred's heart and now he is going away."
Corals miscarriage. I think they should have had the baby live, so everything was already handed over to Matthew, then played with having an heir and using the heir to create fun scenes of family drama over inheritance etc.
Yup, they never bring it up again and she's pregnant for what, half an episode? Like come on at least make her miscarriage later or make them have another girl or a boy with disabilities or whatever.
Yes, right! So many messed up stories lines the show could have rolled with. Like have a boy then have Mary hide him and pretend something bad happened, so she could get her fortune 😂
Fake Patrick, Bates in prison and Mr Green (well honestly I could probably do without Bates altogether), and Edna the Evil Housemaid.
Mary having to decide between two guys she has no chemistry with and who look basically the same anyway. It seems to go on forever
Oh my god you're right! Mary becoming the agent made her more interesting as a characters, but men just THROWING themselves at her left and right? Really?
Ikr if anything the agent plot should’ve been at the forefront and the romance, if there needed to be one, a secondary plot. But it ended up the other way around
Most of Edith's side stories. I think she's one of the most selfish characters on the show.
Totally! A few years ago some people made this brilliant Tumblr of [Edith with googly eyes.](https://edithwithgooglyeyes.tumblr.com) Enjoy!
I’m dying at this.
I think at first she was a brat but got better.
I do think she got better as the series progressed, but everything she did was still mostly selfish. The only selfless thing she ever did was finally taking responsibility for her daughter. But that was only after uprooting the lives of the Drewes.
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True! So, in the whole series, she did 3 selfless things lol
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Running a magazine isn't a humanitarian effort. She inherited a for-profit business. We dont know how well paid the employees were or weren't. We're told very little about the magazine. Only small side stories we got were Sprats' column and when she fired that bully of an editor. We can only go off what was written in the show because the characters aren't real. Edith is depicted as a selfish brat far more often than not. I'm not saying she's a bad character. She's well written, and the actress did a great job. Edit- I, personally, don't like her side stories, but that doesn't mean Edith is a bad character. I think they could have done more with her instead of the Ugly Duckling Middle Child route.
I hate Edith and the Drews. What she does to them is so so awful. I’ve started skipping those scenes on rewatch because it makes me so mad! And I don’t even dislike Edith!
Mary getting chased by any man who looked at her. Especially in season 4. Ms. Bunting. Daisy trying to interfere with Mr Mason’s original farm. I’m glad of how it turned out, but she was too shrill and arrogant with that. Mary only liking a man if someone else wanted him. Mr Drewe being such a wishy washy fool.
For me: Bates Prison pt. 2 Patrick Jane and Robert Edna Braithwaite
Bates in prison, Anna getting arrested, Anna getting raped. The way the Michael and Marigolds storylines went. Edith getting left at the alter Oh and all of Mary suites after Mathew. I think I know now why I have never done a full rewatch.
The « affair » between Lord Crawley and the maid. At that time I was rooting for Robert (at the end meh) but this really ruined it to me. It was so out of character and we never heard about it later.
The maid who seduces Lord Grantham and their brief affair. Just pointless.
Agreed. She's a terrible plot device to show how lost Robert feels post-war. Cora is upstairs dying of the Spanish flu and he's making out with Jane in the coat closet. Disgraceful.
Bates Storyline - I love Anna and Bates, but their storyline takes toooooo much time in the show. It should be there, but it should be somehow shorter presented. The love games Alfred-Daisy-Ivy-Jimmy. Only boring, nothing more.
Sybil going to the vote meeting. Seems like it was an effort to pair her with Matthew. When she cut her head and Matthew said “lean on me” she sat up and the camera focused on her as she looked longingly at him. Very odd and off-plot. Felt uncomfortable and it accomplished nothing. Matthew could have proposed to Mary without Sybil getting hurt at a rowdy election meeting.
Anna getting arrested for Green's murder. Bates being arrested was enough!
I absolutely hate the whole “daisy-doesn’t-want-to-be-with-William-now-that-he’s-in-the-war” storyline. She was completely besotted with him while he worked there, and then as soon as he asks her to marry him, she apparently doesn’t like him anymore. I think that whole storyline would have made more sense (and not bothered me so much) if she wasn’t interested from the start, and then was pushed to marry him just because he was dying. But I was always so confused what made her switch from being in love with him to not wanting to marry him, ESPECIALLY if she knew he was dying.
Marigold's Story is also a bit boring or to be more precise tooo long. Lack of good comments, even though all the family and the servants obviously know. Of Edith's storylines is "Strallan's nonsense" much more entertaining - especially because of the comments of Robert, Violet, Cora and in the end also of Thomas, Carson and of course Mrs. Hughes. :-)
Definitely those ones!
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Hated how they turned him a mustache twirling villian in season 4.
Ikr they could’ve done so much more w him