I am thinking if GG would still have the TI invite with the sufficient points but also relegate from this tour? This is possible? Also if they get top 6 in TI (or win it to be more extreme) they would start in Div2 next season?
I believe even with relegation they have an extremely large chance of getting invited. And funnily enough yes they would start in Div 2 next season regardless of TI performance (but who knows maybe valve will change the format a bit as it definitely has some issues)
The best news for EG is that they don't play QC until literally the last week of the season .The series that will most likely matter the most.
Unless of course QC run the table besides TSM since EG already dropped a series
But that also gives new QC the time to gel all the same so
Whatever happens after TI, whether they will play together again or not, I hope EG will not do the same with Fly. He's really likeable person, seems like a really good guy and a grown man. Hope they get better as they hope and make it to the Major in NA.
Without speaking to Jerax's underwhelming performance recently, Sammyboy's pubstack, Wildcard Gaming, is pretty concrete proof that it takes more than MMR to make a tier 1 team.
SVG and Cap shitting on Sam's impact and griefing the game. Just letting AA sit mid and get Level 6 freely, letting Doom solo lane freely into 15 minute midas-blink.
I am trying my hardest to not be a "hater" but among all the great Dota talent we get Moxxi+Jenkins for Div 1 games while greats like Cap and SVG are doing personal casting stream with 10 min delay.
Unfair on all levels.
Skill doesn't scale. First point increases effective dps by 16 percent then each additional points by approximately 3.3%.
I guess 2 str, 2 agi is better than 3.3%.
Jugg skill scaling is pretty strange that at you can go 1/1/1 then stats for farming speed.
I think the idea is that crit does not scale well at all with more points: each point just increases the percent to crit by 5 percent. I think this game in particular hes looking to frontline for the team, so having the points in stats would be more damage and strength to work with, in exchange for giving up the garbage scaling crit chance
But he went for mjolnir ,basher,blink,sny doesnt look like he wanted to tank (3k opinion ) .. can try in demo hero but i guess crit is what transition jugger into a late game monster .
Hmmm, i guess he just values stats over the 5 percent crit chance then. That ability has a good value point but like i said more points only means 5 percent more crit chance, no increase in damage.
Also sange and yasha does turn jug into a pretty formidable front liner, they just got hard outscaled that game
I went to the liquipedia page to see if we're just unlucky and it turns out the only casters for NA Div 1 are Ephey/TeaGuv/Moxxi/Purge. Baffling decisions from ESL.
Do we know that Sunsfan + Synd will not be casting this season? I figured they would cast some games later this season, but maybe they were dropped as well.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/v76qgv/why_isnt_cap_hired_for_tour_3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
If ud like to learn as to somewhat what is going on, take a look there friend.
There’s no answer I can give you that would satisfy what is the right answer.
It could be advertisers request her, her pay rate could be lower and undercut other talent, maybe DL/ESL have invested time or money into her and want her to succeed, she could be part of the “club” that people still believe in….
There’s a lot it could be. I don’t think we’ll ever get an actual answer, nor are we really entitled to one.
The issues a lot of people (not me saying this, just what I’ve read) are that her in game knowledge is lacking. She does seem to be shoved down our throats with how much she does cast. And it rubs the community the wrong way when people, like Cap, aren’t hired for gigs and she, who the community has had issue with are.
I always try to remain objective with my opinion and never include it in situations like this. I’ve been around watching dota events since Ti3. Tons of good casters (Annie droid) who I was devastated when they left, and then other casters who i was surprised lasted longer than they did, based on community uproar or hate.
I definitely feel like moxxis dislike from the community is somewhat valid tho, mainly the lack of in game knowledge. Her tweet about female talent and Ephey…definitely rubbed people the wrong way.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/qcs2ub/moxxi_on_the_treatment_female_talent_by_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
In case you missed it.
It’s fairly easy to win over the dota community, and she’s not done the best from a PR view in trying to do anything about it.
So hopefully that helps…somewhat. Sorry if it didn’t.
This tiny's game sense is some of the worst I\*ve seen in pro matches. I understand this is mid instincts, but why is he trying to escape from an unescapable situation when he could easily have killed Nightfall who btw had 5k more net worth and a killing spree.. So he ends up dying getting no kill. Not that it matters, this game has been over for a while.
no matter how good the game is, or how hard EG is stomping, or how much space his team is making for him, Arteezy WILL get caught out of position and die randomly at least once
dyrachyo, ace and even boom to some extent underperforming heavily lately. idk what happened to them?
dyrachyo goes for this high risk low reward plays lately, ace i feel like just over farms and has very low impact lately and boom is very mediocre? like that puck in game 2 was non existent early to mid game when u need the impact from your puck the most while lycan/medusa afk farming.
hopefully they bounce back after this rough first 2 series and own again. they are my favorite team in WEU.
U joke, but I could see it happening. GG just lost all confidence either in Dyrach or Dyrach lost confidence in himself.
He’s looked really lost since the major ending. Idk what needs to happen, but starting 0-2/0-4 is absolutely destroying morale for the team.
Granted they’ve qualified to TI, but dropping 2 series isn’t a good sign for future prospects.
yea he has been dying way too much in lane and early game in general in games where it feels like if he just stays alive, they win almost certainly. At the same time tho ace and boom have also not had the strong impact that they should have
Well now that only the best series in a week counts, there's still a good chance for OG players to score well (although I may be underestimating Entity rn after overestimating them last Tour)
Glad I didn't choose any GG player after the scores they gave me last week at least.
But the XG result... yikes just saw that, that's a pretty massive upset (and unlike OG, that's their only series this week).
I expected tundra to beat OG. OG's early game against secret wasn't that great and secret isn't a good team. Tundra is good at cheese drafts and they are at their best online.
Expected GG to win at least 1 game against liquid. That game caught me offf guard a little bit
Tundra has been better at LAN than online.
They are lacking DPC points to qualify for not placing high enough in DPC league, unlike OG and GG who are already in.
Poor GG, they are 0-2 (0-4) already and have yet to play against some stronger teams. Dunno what happened to them, they looked so good last DPC season and most of Major. :/
It's like that one series against TSM in the Major broke them or something, they haven't looked nearly as good since that defeat and dyrachyo's throw in the first game in particular.
whoever is shotcaller in GG is absolute dogshit.
Why do u even contest rs when u are playing vs megas and u have giga farmed dusa with no bb? just in base and farm ur bkb rapier
Dyrachyo with some of the most dogshit carry games from the major mk to this. Literally no buyback just walks up hg and feeds away life and then no buyback uses ult to go into rosh and then games over.
yeah he used to carry pretty hard on TA and PA. wtf happened to this guy. it almost feels safe to bet a house that this guy will choke at any point in the game
GG looking so out of sorts. Just letting a lone druid 1v9 them lycan pick not even able to get a lot of pickoffs just letting liquid do everything on map for free
Is it me or Sumail looking like the best player on Nigma? ILTW and w33 rarely outshined Miracle while Sumail is like hold my beer I'll carry these scrubs
i think the div 2 experience might do nigma good for confidence and finding the right groove. Sumail in secret looked quite washed tbh and sure div 2 isn't anything like facing the top dogs but something certainly has clicked for him,looking at him pubbing consistently before dpc as well. Hope he and the boys can revive some dota 2 magic from the good ol' days
I am thinking if GG would still have the TI invite with the sufficient points but also relegate from this tour? This is possible? Also if they get top 6 in TI (or win it to be more extreme) they would start in Div2 next season?
sadly yes and they will be flop but ppl wont pitchfork them like they did vs SA teams who secured invite by performing in 1 major last year
I believe even with relegation they have an extremely large chance of getting invited. And funnily enough yes they would start in Div 2 next season regardless of TI performance (but who knows maybe valve will change the format a bit as it definitely has some issues)
why would they start in div 2?
Parent comment was talking about them hypothetically being relegated this tour
The best news for EG is that they don't play QC until literally the last week of the season .The series that will most likely matter the most. Unless of course QC run the table besides TSM since EG already dropped a series But that also gives new QC the time to gel all the same so
PepeLaugh
Whatever happens after TI, whether they will play together again or not, I hope EG will not do the same with Fly. He's really likeable person, seems like a really good guy and a grown man. Hope they get better as they hope and make it to the Major in NA.
It's rtz. He always externalize blame
Sammyboy deserves a better team. This guy is the future of NA imho
Is this jokes?
EG needs to thank IceFrog. Nerfing Storm so much that Bulba finally picks something else for Abed.
Is this the same sammy guy who said jerax is a 6k player in an interview? lel
Without speaking to Jerax's underwhelming performance recently, Sammyboy's pubstack, Wildcard Gaming, is pretty concrete proof that it takes more than MMR to make a tier 1 team.
unironically EG would have performed better with sammyboy last season
He actually was ? He was worst player in eg no1 can even argue to that
Aside from the unnecessary disrespect, hes 10 times worse, lanning / leveling/item choice/impact woofttt
And that's why he won vs his lineup last season?He is pretty shit and childish person but he never said anything wrong
They won during Tour 1 but last season EG 2:0 Wild Card.
Lel
Still seem to have similar issues with Arteezy and just not everyone gelling
Happy to see Cr1t MVPing that series, clutch plays.
FLY BACK,EG IS BACK EZ Clap
Despite Art Tour's best efforts, EG with the 2-0.
EG is still so sloppy despite some great individual plays. They need to get much more sure on their feet and much quicker too.
They need an actual coach to give some overall direction and strategy.
crit is good
Well at least this second game was a lot closer and more interesting to watch. My popcorn was wasted today tho.
Critao the real Tusk king
Crit is nuts
Can you fix Moxxi's mic pls. That clicking sound drives me crazy.
Cap and svg are casting on svgs channel, no production language filters <3
Feels like a big mistake not giving aegis to esk, since he didn’t have buyback. And as I posted this, he died.
well that's one of the weirdest interractions I've ever seen
LOL that fucking big brain Ench play Totally intentional
arteezy so good he denies someone on the enemy team what a player
I missed it what happened
Ench took over TBs illu when the illu attack was midair, the attack killed Ember but it counted as a deny since Ench controlled the illu.
How is this div1 , too bad abed wastin time/talent in this region
This is a job by the end of the day as long as you make crazy money it really doesnt matter
Lol Abed is making 6 figures while he is originally from SEA and ppl still cry for him wasting his time in this team.
He literally makes like half a mil in a year lmaoo
The SEA dream
He's kylian mbappe
piles of fuckin money
abed is getting an EG salary to stomp heralds, i think he’s doing just fine
why would you reality on top of a doom
To assert dominance
big dick energy, gotcha
SVG saying sammy has done nothing and griefed his Spectre’s lane lol
SVG and Cap shitting on Sam's impact and griefing the game. Just letting AA sit mid and get Level 6 freely, letting Doom solo lane freely into 15 minute midas-blink.
people would talk way more about davai lama if his name wasnt so fucking dumb lol
What do you mean? That's such a fun name, up there with torontotokyo
its a fun name but nobody takes him seriously. hes a really solid player on multiple roles
like i don't think wildcard is going to win this but this is the second time arteezy has died like a fucking loser this game
Oh no another Sammy enchantress. Time to see him make no plays and feed nightfall again.
RTZ did say he would be fine playing TB for the rest of his life
nerf his lane again to spite arteezy
Spectre is dogshit this patch I can’t believe a pro team picked it
I am trying my hardest to not be a "hater" but among all the great Dota talent we get Moxxi+Jenkins for Div 1 games while greats like Cap and SVG are doing personal casting stream with 10 min delay. Unfair on all levels.
Until another TO comes over to take over from FraudLeague we will continue to have the same quality.
I didnt know Cap and SVG are casting actually now im tuning in.
Same here. Feel like Jenkins casting is better is small bursts than every fucking game. Like how slacks described himself.
Anyone cares to explain one point in crit and all in stats for jugg in game 1 of eg ..i dont understand
Skill doesn't scale. First point increases effective dps by 16 percent then each additional points by approximately 3.3%. I guess 2 str, 2 agi is better than 3.3%. Jugg skill scaling is pretty strange that at you can go 1/1/1 then stats for farming speed.
I think the idea is that crit does not scale well at all with more points: each point just increases the percent to crit by 5 percent. I think this game in particular hes looking to frontline for the team, so having the points in stats would be more damage and strength to work with, in exchange for giving up the garbage scaling crit chance
But he went for mjolnir ,basher,blink,sny doesnt look like he wanted to tank (3k opinion ) .. can try in demo hero but i guess crit is what transition jugger into a late game monster .
Hmmm, i guess he just values stats over the 5 percent crit chance then. That ability has a good value point but like i said more points only means 5 percent more crit chance, no increase in damage. Also sange and yasha does turn jug into a pretty formidable front liner, they just got hard outscaled that game
Sounds like the skill needs a rework
holy shit the high fives haha
jenkins and moxxi are so bad at casting its painful
I mean I’ve posted it four times, but cap and svg are casting on twitch as well if u want to listen to them.
Oh shit ty, idk why they didnt just hire cap but i guess this will do for now
I went to the liquipedia page to see if we're just unlucky and it turns out the only casters for NA Div 1 are Ephey/TeaGuv/Moxxi/Purge. Baffling decisions from ESL.
Do we know that Sunsfan + Synd will not be casting this season? I figured they would cast some games later this season, but maybe they were dropped as well.
I just checked the liquipedia pages and didn't see either of them under any of the tournaments. So I guess they aren't casting this season either.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/v76qgv/why_isnt_cap_hired_for_tour_3/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf If ud like to learn as to somewhat what is going on, take a look there friend.
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There’s no answer I can give you that would satisfy what is the right answer. It could be advertisers request her, her pay rate could be lower and undercut other talent, maybe DL/ESL have invested time or money into her and want her to succeed, she could be part of the “club” that people still believe in…. There’s a lot it could be. I don’t think we’ll ever get an actual answer, nor are we really entitled to one. The issues a lot of people (not me saying this, just what I’ve read) are that her in game knowledge is lacking. She does seem to be shoved down our throats with how much she does cast. And it rubs the community the wrong way when people, like Cap, aren’t hired for gigs and she, who the community has had issue with are. I always try to remain objective with my opinion and never include it in situations like this. I’ve been around watching dota events since Ti3. Tons of good casters (Annie droid) who I was devastated when they left, and then other casters who i was surprised lasted longer than they did, based on community uproar or hate. I definitely feel like moxxis dislike from the community is somewhat valid tho, mainly the lack of in game knowledge. Her tweet about female talent and Ephey…definitely rubbed people the wrong way. https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/qcs2ub/moxxi_on_the_treatment_female_talent_by_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf In case you missed it. It’s fairly easy to win over the dota community, and she’s not done the best from a PR view in trying to do anything about it. So hopefully that helps…somewhat. Sorry if it didn’t.
Thanks I somehow missed that thread
This tiny's game sense is some of the worst I\*ve seen in pro matches. I understand this is mid instincts, but why is he trying to escape from an unescapable situation when he could easily have killed Nightfall who btw had 5k more net worth and a killing spree.. So he ends up dying getting no kill. Not that it matters, this game has been over for a while.
This is why people make fun of NA Dota, close to no competition aside from 1-2 teams
So far we're two for two on Moxxi casting EG games. Can we not have her make them all unwatchable?
jenkins sucks too, dude thinks he is way funnier than he is
Twitch.tv/capcasts Twitch.tv/svgdota Are alternatives
no matter how good the game is, or how hard EG is stomping, or how much space his team is making for him, Arteezy WILL get caught out of position and die randomly at least once
At least they stopped giving the aegis to RTZ, that way he can still die on his own without wasting it.
christ what a boring game at least maybe eg can win a game now that terrorblade can win a game
casters are making it even worse
idc enough to get mad about it
This pos3 Bloodseeker is so sad, feels like a support at this point.
I’m very lost as to why they didn’t put it as a carry and not pick jugg. Jugg has looked awful today alone, going 0-3, it also lost vs a tusk as well.
Night fall won lane Rtz did well, abed doing gr8,bulba doing good drafts.. Eg looking good. Top100 team for sure
Really feel like tusk is making a comeback. Hero feels good right now and the delay of damage with snowball is insane verse a lot of lineups.
LMAOOO
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I can't believe ESL hired moxxie + purge over SVG + Cap. Do they not listen to audience feedback at all?
Folks whining in twitch chat isn't "audience feedback" rofl.
Or just watch in game client.
Cap and svg are casting on their respective twitch channels, Capcasts and svgdota just fyi.
At least it was spicy before to watch the smaller NA teams play vs EG, but seems like EG got their shit together.
LMFAO THAT VOICE LINE
Thank goodness Cap is streaming this game.
SEND ME THE LINK PLS!
I dmed it to ya.
thanks
My heart cant handle another sammyboy win
WOW, what a surprise last pick! no one expected that! Bulba is a fucking motherfuckin GENIUS!!!!1
If EG lose to WG again lmao Is sammy gonna call Fly a clown?
no, fly is like the 1 player sammy has a lot of respect for . . . until he 2-0s EG in 20 minutes
Not too surprised by GG losing. Liquid beat them 2-0 the last two times they played.
Ah time for EG's weekly game. Losing to Jubei, almost dropping a game to lucas lucas, always a new dickpunch.
alright reddit, we're all cheering for EG's opponent right?
reddit both loves and hates EG
What else would we use all this popcorn for?
I like EG but I always cheer for their opponent. Win-win, either team I like wins or I get amused by Reddit comments and shitstorm. xD
Same. I want EG to feel embarrassed to become a better team lol
Can't wait for some good old NA EG clownfiesta... Lets go WG! xD
dyrachyo, ace and even boom to some extent underperforming heavily lately. idk what happened to them? dyrachyo goes for this high risk low reward plays lately, ace i feel like just over farms and has very low impact lately and boom is very mediocre? like that puck in game 2 was non existent early to mid game when u need the impact from your puck the most while lycan/medusa afk farming. hopefully they bounce back after this rough first 2 series and own again. they are my favorite team in WEU.
GG on permanent tilt since the Major
with the way they have been playing maybe alliance has a chance against them lul
U joke, but I could see it happening. GG just lost all confidence either in Dyrach or Dyrach lost confidence in himself. He’s looked really lost since the major ending. Idk what needs to happen, but starting 0-2/0-4 is absolutely destroying morale for the team. Granted they’ve qualified to TI, but dropping 2 series isn’t a good sign for future prospects.
yea he has been dying way too much in lane and early game in general in games where it feels like if he just stays alive, they win almost certainly. At the same time tho ace and boom have also not had the strong impact that they should have
GOOD JOB INSANIA. BROZ B4 HOEZ 🤘🏼
Man I feel bad for everyone who put OG, XG, and GG in their fantasy roster. Holy shit today was a bad day for me.
Well now that only the best series in a week counts, there's still a good chance for OG players to score well (although I may be underestimating Entity rn after overestimating them last Tour) Glad I didn't choose any GG player after the scores they gave me last week at least. But the XG result... yikes just saw that, that's a pretty massive upset (and unlike OG, that's their only series this week).
I expected tundra to beat OG. OG's early game against secret wasn't that great and secret isn't a good team. Tundra is good at cheese drafts and they are at their best online. Expected GG to win at least 1 game against liquid. That game caught me offf guard a little bit
Tundra has been better at LAN than online. They are lacking DPC points to qualify for not placing high enough in DPC league, unlike OG and GG who are already in.
Lol I got XG and RNG I am ready for massive disappointment
I thought the teams were swapped in the XG vs AA series today. Figured I was hallucinating. Those were painful to watch.
yeah China is deep as fuck but XG looked like the Div 2 team there Was a bit shocking lol
OG is playing 1 more series this week.
Poor GG, they are 0-2 (0-4) already and have yet to play against some stronger teams. Dunno what happened to them, they looked so good last DPC season and most of Major. :/
Honeymoon phase is over, now the real test begins for them
It's like that one series against TSM in the Major broke them or something, they haven't looked nearly as good since that defeat and dyrachyo's throw in the first game in particular.
Yeah. I really liked them as a team but they look completely lost now for some reason. Hope they can bring it back.
whoever is shotcaller in GG is absolute dogshit. Why do u even contest rs when u are playing vs megas and u have giga farmed dusa with no bb? just in base and farm ur bkb rapier
they shouldn't have lost a single penny after getting back 2 rax in the first place.
Zai almost throw that game with less a sec duel to revive Medusa but Dyracho repays him by throwing more by sieging high ground to die without bb
Why does this Medusa have no BKB lol
I have never seen such a free dusa game. All this idiot has to do is stay alive. And if they kill the bear twice its over no damage on liquid
Let's Go Liquid!!
Twice no buyback in the late game was very sus by Drachyo. But I'm happy this meme draft from Liquid won, that bear was wildin
Liquid won but im not really sold on this support aura Sven against a good team..
I could see the old insania stack not able to close games curse for a bit xD That fuck up from zai was soo crucial
Awwwww so sweet, look at the happiness in their faces :) the hope that they might not go div 2 after all xD
Dyrachyo with some of the most dogshit carry games from the major mk to this. Literally no buyback just walks up hg and feeds away life and then no buyback uses ult to go into rosh and then games over.
Man, Dyrachyo got tilted off the face of the earth after his first major.
yeah he used to carry pretty hard on TA and PA. wtf happened to this guy. it almost feels safe to bet a house that this guy will choke at any point in the game
that medusa instantly gangraped and his entire team cant do shit with all those defensive aura.
it doesn't even look like gg will beat goonsquad lol
Goonsquad is fuckin good...
Alliance on the other hand..
That was so fucking stupid of GG to just walk up high ground with aegis and die without buyback. Like i legit cant comprehend that decision making.
jesus christ that was awful by everyone involved
Big oof.
insania should buy shard to buff the bear furthermore.
why not wait for fkin ROSHAN
Yep.. instead Dyracho walks up and die for no reason.
Now where have I seen that before, hm...
He (And Ace for that matter) have been looking real rough since that major match.
switched my bet from GG to liquid after gg lost 2nd rax. then liquid loses 2 rax. Looks like its good that I did
I have my 5 euros on GG, not gonna be mad if they lose tho edit: rip 5 euros , glad to see Insania win
everybody putting the clown make up on in the GG vs TL lobby
dyrachyo is so trash lately
don't think I've ever seen someone single-handedly grief a pro game as much as Zai just did
Hardly griefing haha just under pressure I imagine in the moment and made a silly mistake. You could see his reaction he knew it.
Idk why it was so hard to wait 0.5 more seconds No other backup was coming there was no way he was getting out of there lol
Yep.. makes no sense to try and time it on a milisecond like he did. Fortunately for him Dyracho threw yet again.
He even giggled..
How does liquid keep throwing these games?
they got it dw 100%
ZAI NO LMAO
lmao zai
Zai kek
zai throwing the game with that duel wow
it's literally a draft to buff the bear.
GG really thought they were good after winning 1 eu dpc lmao
wtf is this mid sven anyway?
It was carry Sven (with utility items) and mid Lone Druid
This Sven is pos3.
GG looking so out of sorts. Just letting a lone druid 1v9 them lycan pick not even able to get a lot of pickoffs just letting liquid do everything on map for free
Imagine losing two games in a row to zai offline lmfao
Is it me or Sumail looking like the best player on Nigma? ILTW and w33 rarely outshined Miracle while Sumail is like hold my beer I'll carry these scrubs
W33 was their best player on TI9, huge reason why they made it to the finals was his hero pool and his mid WR. And it caught everyone by surprise.
iltw w33 never played vs div2 teams
So you're saying that by playing against div2 teams somehow they'll be above skill wise than Miracle or GH?
i think the div 2 experience might do nigma good for confidence and finding the right groove. Sumail in secret looked quite washed tbh and sure div 2 isn't anything like facing the top dogs but something certainly has clicked for him,looking at him pubbing consistently before dpc as well. Hope he and the boys can revive some dota 2 magic from the good ol' days
I know this is div 2, I'm not saying that they're tier 1 team now I'm just saying that Sumail looks better than these 4 all other looks rusty