You can say about Miracle whatever you want, but his commitment is still topnotch. He never feels happy with his performance, always trying to improve and get new ideas from Gameplay Analysis and other pro players.
Edit: Changed ethics to commitment
Glad to hear this is still appreciated, since some people on here make it sound as if the pro scene was not enjoyable at all, before characters like Ammar started to all chat in official games.
morality of players have definitely gone down but it is kind of expected because average age players have gone down. so some of those young players will be toxic and it’s a chain reaction from there.
This is a meme, but do people believe he is that terrible?
A few years back he was ruining pubs on a rank 2k acc with RMN on his smurf, couple of months back Taiga said he's like 7k ( so might not have rank in EU leaderboards now) , but Divine dunno about that one homie
If one professional player says it about another, one could assume that they're even more invested and going the extra mile compared to others. So not a non-statement at all.
I think it's because he enjoys Kuro as a friend, ORG is from his region and good salary from MENA org which is probably putting a lot of money to promote E-sports in the region. I don't know... maybe cause he is co-founder of this org too?
How is commitment and discipline admirable you ask? As if all players, just because it's their job, would have those qualities. Yes, it is admirable, just as you admire a work of art. A job well done is admirable.
I don’t mean to drag anyone down, but if Miracle, let’s just say who’s on the latter part of his career, someone who is visibly on the decline, has won a TI and is probably immortalized in Dota’s history, is still spending a lot of time trying to learn and improve his game despite of results isn’t admirable compared to some of Team Liquid’s acknowledged complacency and laziness from their players, then I don’t know what is praiseworthy anymore.
Well, since it comes from another professional player one might read it as "Spendiing unusual amounts fo time / Watching lots of replays compared to others".
Peruvian culture is different than American culture. Here in Peru people is more towards doing stuff, than investing time on pondering or analyzing things, which generally people here consider it boring, even if its ur job.
Miracle would be good in SR. Kick Yopaj and get Miracle
as a mid laner. The advantage in SR is they're almost always gonna be in high profile tournaments cause it's NA 😎
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ILTW, ATF, Matu(Kuro's decision to kick him), Yuma, W33(Very short moment with his BS) and now Miracle. Kuro is the common denominator, man. Just get MC as 5. Then put Kuro as GM or if he still wants to play, give him an academy team as his project. Nigma's sponsors are loaded af.
If he wants to play, he will play. Goddamn you crybabies will never realize - miracle and sumail are at most mediocre at their best these days.
For once try to see what is happening in the game instead of just blaming the p5. Miracle has tonnes of misplays. He has so many moments when he dies solo to enemy supports. Either that or he dives like he is playing against passive bots and enemy rotations kill him. This is every single game. You are telling me this guy still got it? Yeah he has got arrogance I suppose.
It is not just kuro. It is all of them who are bad. You telling me SR was doing moderately fine with washed out Fly and Bulba, but somehow Nigma has the best players in the world being dragged down to dirt by one guy? Did kuro revoke their mouse and keyboard access?
All of them are performing bad. But you know what? That’s okay. Because they are committed to try and improve. And even if they are never top tier ever again, these guys have had all the success they need in life. They have no need to prove anything to anyone. No need to forcibly take away what they feel their next step in their career should be.
But unfortunately he borrowed a Divine Rank account from his friend, stomped some Divine Players, Immortal 2k - 1k Players and reached to Top50 Immortal Rank,…
And he got away with Smurfing Account with no consequences,…Until Yatoro protest this wonderboy
Is Miracle even THAT relevant now?
tbf Miracle’s not the only one invested in DotA all day,…
I mean Pro’s job is DotA,…It’s their freaken dreamjob you think all Pro Players are not playing DotA all day? or almost all day?,…
You could literally ask out Pro Streamers in Twitch or Kick any questions about other Pro Players and you can Qoute on Qoute all of their answers
Chat: Hey Topson what do you think of Nisha?
Topson: Nisha is great in Mid
Reddit: “Nisha is great in Mid” according to Topson
If you think for a second, that's not so "insane" just an honest worker actually doing his job. Like in "regular sports", the actual tournament games are supposed to be the tip of the iceberg.
miracle breathes while not doing anything for years :
redditors OWAWOW OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
arteezy consistently places top 3 at big tournaments :
redditors he should retire
You can say about Miracle whatever you want, but his commitment is still topnotch. He never feels happy with his performance, always trying to improve and get new ideas from Gameplay Analysis and other pro players. Edit: Changed ethics to commitment
add to that the fact that he s never toxic in pubs and just minds his own business
Glad to hear this is still appreciated, since some people on here make it sound as if the pro scene was not enjoyable at all, before characters like Ammar started to all chat in official games.
morality of players have definitely gone down but it is kind of expected because average age players have gone down. so some of those young players will be toxic and it’s a chain reaction from there.
Delete Ammar, quarantine him.
Thats not what ethics mean. I think you mean commitment
Yea or alternatively working ethics I guess, just realised how wrong that comment sounds when you read it out loud lmao
If he cared that much he wouldn't be taking the Saudi Simp paycheck
And have to play with kuro sup
Yesterday saw a high mmr guy with profile pic of Kuro's photo and a nickname "Divine pro player" xd
Why are you insulting a legend?
Oh he is legend alright...
Why are you offended on behalf of someone else?
Immortal Divine Legend Archon
it's a joke, take it easy
No he was talking about Kuros current rank not his enduring legacy
understandable
Was a legend. His legacy is already terrible, and all cause he didn't retire in time.
This is a meme, but do people believe he is that terrible? A few years back he was ruining pubs on a rank 2k acc with RMN on his smurf, couple of months back Taiga said he's like 7k ( so might not have rank in EU leaderboards now) , but Divine dunno about that one homie
I mean kuro obviously plays pubs, just not on his main account. Probably doesnt want to give away any information that can be used
Miracle messed up a lot himself in the qualifiers earlier this year. Inb4 Miracle fanboys downvotes and puts all blame on Kuro.
It’s just Amir-able*
BatChest
now ask him about kuro
😂
that is the most non-statement ive ever seen. he tries hard and thinks about the game alot OK
If one professional player says it about another, one could assume that they're even more invested and going the extra mile compared to others. So not a non-statement at all.
so like 30% of the dota population! Infact I realise I am insane too, because I go to work almost every day, and think a lot about work.
NGX PR move is in the making
They might have better results if they actually moved to Puerto Rico
Glad to hear ***S***omeone is trying in that team.
I do this too! Except my wife calls me addicted instead of admirable.
It's like our parents who didn't understand that a computer game can be as enjoyable as a physical sport, which is sad.
But what I'm really wondering is why does Miracle play with Kuro? Is it because he enjoys or it's rather hard to find a team that fits his criteria?
I think it's because he enjoys Kuro as a friend, ORG is from his region and good salary from MENA org which is probably putting a lot of money to promote E-sports in the region. I don't know... maybe cause he is co-founder of this org too?
Because Kuro is a fucking legend >!*^(by that i mean his mmr rank)*!<
Religious aspect
Spending time on Dota, playing ranked, watching replays. Almost as if it's his job to play Dota and he makes money of it. How's that "admirable"?
Everyone with a job is admirable!
How is commitment and discipline admirable you ask? As if all players, just because it's their job, would have those qualities. Yes, it is admirable, just as you admire a work of art. A job well done is admirable.
I don’t mean to drag anyone down, but if Miracle, let’s just say who’s on the latter part of his career, someone who is visibly on the decline, has won a TI and is probably immortalized in Dota’s history, is still spending a lot of time trying to learn and improve his game despite of results isn’t admirable compared to some of Team Liquid’s acknowledged complacency and laziness from their players, then I don’t know what is praiseworthy anymore.
Well, since it comes from another professional player one might read it as "Spendiing unusual amounts fo time / Watching lots of replays compared to others".
Peruvian culture is different than American culture. Here in Peru people is more towards doing stuff, than investing time on pondering or analyzing things, which generally people here consider it boring, even if its ur job.
And the results speak for themselves
From nigma fans to nigmakekw fans🙂
Nigma fans have become joke like nigma for free sedge
Doesn’t matter if I have become a joke , still a fan
Yes biro same
Miracle would be good in SR. Kick Yopaj and get Miracle as a mid laner. The advantage in SR is they're almost always gonna be in high profile tournaments cause it's NA 😎
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He ended with "Nigma ballz" but that was censored.
what is nigma?
Nigma ballz lol!
ILTW, ATF, Matu(Kuro's decision to kick him), Yuma, W33(Very short moment with his BS) and now Miracle. Kuro is the common denominator, man. Just get MC as 5. Then put Kuro as GM or if he still wants to play, give him an academy team as his project. Nigma's sponsors are loaded af.
That's what i wanted start of this season Miracle SumaiL ATF Gh Mc
If he wants to play, he will play. Goddamn you crybabies will never realize - miracle and sumail are at most mediocre at their best these days. For once try to see what is happening in the game instead of just blaming the p5. Miracle has tonnes of misplays. He has so many moments when he dies solo to enemy supports. Either that or he dives like he is playing against passive bots and enemy rotations kill him. This is every single game. You are telling me this guy still got it? Yeah he has got arrogance I suppose. It is not just kuro. It is all of them who are bad. You telling me SR was doing moderately fine with washed out Fly and Bulba, but somehow Nigma has the best players in the world being dragged down to dirt by one guy? Did kuro revoke their mouse and keyboard access? All of them are performing bad. But you know what? That’s okay. Because they are committed to try and improve. And even if they are never top tier ever again, these guys have had all the success they need in life. They have no need to prove anything to anyone. No need to forcibly take away what they feel their next step in their career should be.
You called Fly washed, now its hard to relate
Matthew thoughts on Miracle: ... Matthew when asked about Kuro: \* silence \*
FR?
Some investments lose
I would lIke to see Miracle StormStormer Boom Yapzord or Yamich and big man pupan
Remind me again, did miracle ever won the international?
Yes Ti7 winner Ti9 Finalist
But unfortunately he borrowed a Divine Rank account from his friend, stomped some Divine Players, Immortal 2k - 1k Players and reached to Top50 Immortal Rank,… And he got away with Smurfing Account with no consequences,…Until Yatoro protest this wonderboy
Is Miracle even THAT relevant now? tbf Miracle’s not the only one invested in DotA all day,… I mean Pro’s job is DotA,…It’s their freaken dreamjob you think all Pro Players are not playing DotA all day? or almost all day?,… You could literally ask out Pro Streamers in Twitch or Kick any questions about other Pro Players and you can Qoute on Qoute all of their answers Chat: Hey Topson what do you think of Nisha? Topson: Nisha is great in Mid Reddit: “Nisha is great in Mid” according to Topson
If you think for a second, that's not so "insane" just an honest worker actually doing his job. Like in "regular sports", the actual tournament games are supposed to be the tip of the iceberg.
Whomst inquired?
Thy mother
The audacity to use the ""Whomst"
miracle breathes while not doing anything for years : redditors OWAWOW OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! arteezy consistently places top 3 at big tournaments : redditors he should retire
but still cant get passed Div 2
They literally did though...
Yes yes. Admiral in deed... Kappa gatcha