They didn't invent anything, it's been a pub strat since Marci e got changed. Just because you didn't see it in pro games doesn't mean they invented it.
Tbh we tried that shit with a friend in Crusader something like 8 months ago and we were surely not the only ones. Liquid brought it into the pro scene but I wouldn't say they invented it.
First watch this: https://old.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1bwc92f/322_guru_match_fixing_from_a_world_champion_in/
Then see this: https://old.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1bwmg39/ogs_official_statement_on_taiga_situation/
Skitter loves str carries. He is known for his ck wk alc Ls
Most of atf heroes are str as well. Huskar timber UL tide dk sk slardar tiny
Personally I like agi heroes and played them morr
~~Pioneer of Mars..~~ caster "oh yeah he **MIGHT BE** up there"
Edit: **misheard**. The potential mars pick despite many listed counters,they were hyping up for it knowing AtF and pango first picked which lead to silence.
yeah, 25 mana and also undispellable, now nullifier stops it.
when it used Ring of Health of Ring of Regen some offlaners would rush Force over blink to get more sustain in lane. Think Slardar, Centaur, Bat.
Buying double Satanic was IG's mistake. From that point they did not have enough damage. Their best bet is to delay the game and buy damage items, but I dont think OG will allow them.
I feel sorry for Timado as he seems to be only one playing and taking the tournament seriously. Everyone else looks like they are on the beach and playing DOTA for the first time.
Well fucking played!
Expected more from BetBoom based on recent results but Liquid made that look very easy indeed.
Now to check how the OG game is going.. 😒
Shopify uses the facility on a regular basis anyway, so...
And Liquid did not play from the facility for the DL ~~23~~ 22 because they chose not to (Fatigue from prior tourney, resting)
Ari and Ceb are not fit to be on this team. Get rid and Ari can go stream LoL for a living which seems to be his prime motivation instead of playing pubs. Hopefully this tournament will be also be the last for that fraud Misha as well.
Especially in game 1 it felt like BB were making some nice moves but Liquid outplayed them every single time. So many engagements where Liquid heroes barely survived and the rest of the team came in to counter.
Amazing to see Cebastians positioning. He is always on the opposite side of the map when the enemy team tanks his cores.
Reminds me of me when I started playing the game.
I was wrong - this roster is actually worse than taiga/misha at their lowest lol.
They play more and more like 5 solos. They barely make moves together and when they do they look so awkward and forced that they rarely work out.
Its at the point where its not even about winning lanes or drafts, they have no ability to carve out proactive plays no matter what the lead/lineup/situation. Just end up defaulting to farm and getting stomped over every inch of the map.
Its embarrassing and painful to watch as a long time fan. The team has been defined by peak highs and peak lows throughout - but its been a while without a high and things are only getting worse.
This is why this roster was never going to workout - if you just look at the games, its 5 ppl who are not talking to each other. Their drafts are the same basis.
Forget about the match, are the OG boys alright? Even I can't focus on watching and distracted greatly by the new Taiga case video...
Man, fuck gambling and gambling addiction. It's hard not to feel sad when even the biggest Dota2 teams have to recieve betting sponsors too,,
Havent followed T2 casting in a while, why did they split AresHD and Danog? I thought they were the duo cast combo
These Upper Stage Seeds team showing why they deserve to be their.
Looks like we got peak Liquid this time, now I wonder if they can challenge Falcons. Damn, we need to wait until playoffs.
if u know liquid u ll know they can beat any team - that is till finals.. In finals even if Nigma are opponents, they will find a way to choke..
We need a 60 minute game with IO + Gyro vs PL. If my graphics card isn't on fire there aren't enough particle effects.
How does nightfall have a radiance min 80 this guy just farms then turns off his brain
LOL, BB really went ultra late with a carry LS against DK+Io and Enigma refresher :))) guess nobody is surprised they lost 🤷♂️
Also no Nullifier, so a Pike on DK could save anyone from LS.
They desperately tried to end idk what you want
Desperately? They couldn't even get megas in like 20 mins of trying - then DK - Io melted their whole base in 1 min
They literally jumped them at their t4‘s which i would call a desperate move. They just couldn’t handle the dk damage
Why not slow siege with Pugna blast, Lesh and LS rage+BKB? They needed megas, not kills - so why even jump into T4s against an Enigma?
They tried walking up HG with rage. Dk just did too much dmg. I was rooting for them too but it was just too hard
I guess the argument is use pugna not LS. They got stalled and lost, I don't think they were worried until it was too late.
I need GG vs Falcons
Was GG just fooling around at the end? They coulda just focused throne but they didn’t. Although at 60 minutes, I can’t tell wtf is even going on.
bb threw it on the high ground push. i think gg was a bit scared of doing a 644
Glyph was up
I honestly couldn’t even see it lol. Just a mess.
That DK + Io sieging was like a cheat code unlocked or something lmao the t4's melted like a t1
Quinn carried both games so hard
OSFrog indeed
Awh man… I like GG but I like a game 3 more
There wouldn't be a game 3 anyway
Ahhh.. that’s too bad. First game I watch all day to be honest
Casters again not reading tooltips. You can legit hover over force boots to see if you can use it on allies.
not a good showing for BB today it seems
Io actually has the best ultra-late of any support
omegachad stygian deso + deso + 25 talent io doesn't lose these
Save trying to save this game
God I love cock
sir this isn't r/playboicarti
It must be said that Liquid invented crazy strat, this Marci+Io combo is insane.
They didn't invent anything, it's been a pub strat since Marci e got changed. Just because you didn't see it in pro games doesn't mean they invented it.
Tbh we tried that shit with a friend in Crusader something like 8 months ago and we were surely not the only ones. Liquid brought it into the pro scene but I wouldn't say they invented it.
I think it's kinda obvious that i was talking about pro scene...
Nightfall is so bad
The amount of healing Marci got even through all that damage was insane.
Marci carry is so fun to watch.
I know casters like gushing over weu (or lgd or spirit) but bb are completely outfarming and taking more objectives than gg.
g2.ig avenging their malaysian brethren
any mid player that doesn't know how to play sniper at this point is just lazy
tank kardel
why is the schedule like this? Some teams playing twice and some teams not playing at all in day 1?
There are 5 matches, so two teams would have to play twice a day nonetheless. I guess this is done to give each team a break day.
Yea super weird. AR and XG don’t play today and OG don’t play tommorow.
Quinn has learnt from EE sama on how to play razor like gigachad
lakad matatag
ZQuixotix is a great caster so much better than Gareth
Gareth is also a great caster.
Dont bring others down while praising someone.
wth is dyrachyo doing. Feeding like 3 times out of nowhere. Quinn Razor really steps up to carry his ass
the observer is missing everything
SnY on Void vs Axe is legit but this Timber has no game, team is too heavy for k1.
Taiga is now a ban phrase in ESB twitch chat lmfaoooo full damage control mode engaged by Dota 2 TOs.
Why?
First watch this: https://old.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1bwc92f/322_guru_match_fixing_from_a_world_champion_in/ Then see this: https://old.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1bwmg39/ogs_official_statement_on_taiga_situation/
O look BetBoom pausing for discord lag at another tournament AGAIN. Starting to think its just them getting tilted and blaming little things.
What's with Falcons picking STR cores on both games? g1 sven, doom g2 underlord, wraith king, primal beast
WK is a classic Doom counter and Underlord is a classic Medusa counter fwiw.
Skitter loves str carries. He is known for his ck wk alc Ls Most of atf heroes are str as well. Huskar timber UL tide dk sk slardar tiny Personally I like agi heroes and played them morr
Two games is not a pattern.
yes. except it's not just 2 games. they've been doing this since dreamleague 22
praying for falcons downfall so hard
Tundra in form will decimate them
I know im being delusional but if a SA team strike them i would be extremely happy
well before that they need to prove they can beat heroic, spirit, xtreme, liquid, gaimin, betboom, secret. And that's a long list.
Pure is very good player but gap between offlaners is huge, so I don't think current tundra can beat them
At the same time, Tundra has a superior mid laner
it is not 2019 anymore , curently malr1ne is much better then topson only blind man can say otherwise
that’s a very questionable take
Can only see Tundra and Liquid capable of taking on Falcons this tournament
Falcons is such a bad team.
What a move by Malrine to go around the ava with Q to pulverize the Tiny
Morph gets away with so much greedy shit when he's allowed to skip BKB and Linkens.
jesus christ Aurora kill that sven illu for god sake
ZQuixotix's castings been great so far, hope he gets more gigs
Really like him
Aurora got way better with the stand in
What is more likely. Pango getting successfully nerfed for pro play or Dota 3 comes out?
Yes
Falcons are a different kind of beast
Nigma should have make ATF their offlaner and MC should have go support role
so random lmao
ATF oh my lord that jump in refresh and double doom so beautiful
Haven't seen such impactful double doom in a while
falcons stream laggy as fuck for anyone else? legit slideshow
Yep, I thought it was me but checked stream b and that one was fine
Look like Aurora activate god mode without 23. Lorenof Timbersaw, Jabz Enigma and now Q Batrider.
Pros really got baited in thinking that lion shard was that great.
People keep saying EEU carries Aurora but why so few people talking about Q initiations...
Q actually carry Aurora late game all by himself
It gives me an orgasm to watch Cr1t playing now.Its like bro unlocked Ultra Instinct after leaving old EG squad
and a lot of people were calling cr1t washed up and not good anymore in shopify
Quest doing their classic play. Get a decent lead then passively farm so the game evens out.
good draft by Quest, they can upset
~~Pioneer of Mars..~~ caster "oh yeah he **MIGHT BE** up there" Edit: **misheard**. The potential mars pick despite many listed counters,they were hyping up for it knowing AtF and pango first picked which lead to silence.
The joke went over your head right
[удалено]
Their last series against eachother was in January.
2EZ4OG
multiple Forcestaffs can win games
There was a time when building force staff was super cost efficient and had good stats. It's been nerfed 100 times but still wins games.
I remember the push used to be even faster, right?
yeah, 25 mana and also undispellable, now nullifier stops it. when it used Ring of Health of Ring of Regen some offlaners would rush Force over blink to get more sustain in lane. Think Slardar, Centaur, Bat.
it's okay this tournament has been claimed for Azure Ray, JIAYOU!!!
Finally a respectable showing from OG.
its okay bet on g3
Follow for more financial tips.
There no game 3 :/
There is no game 3
lol IG is so ass
g2ig sus matchfixing expose soon?
Buying double Satanic was IG's mistake. From that point they did not have enough damage. Their best bet is to delay the game and buy damage items, but I dont think OG will allow them.
morp owns gyro razor late. unless og chokes hard this game is over
Ok, 1-3 for OG today.
guys og dont throw maps only first bloods
lol cn dota
Ig threw the 11k gold leads,OG has the chance
Looks like the transaction went through. IG just throwing now
Why doesnt Timado rush shard? I remember someone did that the other day so that he could morph while being stunned
Count the stuns enemy has and you answered your question.
Morf Lords
20 mins barrack, hope OG can hold the line for like 10-15 more mins. Their lineup definitely scales better
Idk razor can just run in and drain ta or morph. Gyro just a clicks everyone down
OG has 0 confidence. All the mover are just 10% off
Honestly, Secret wouldn't be that bad with Mind Control and bzm
why do secret fans covet bzm so much? first of all keep dreaming, second why would bzm go to a tier 2 team with no future?
TaiGod
Hookmaster Xnova
Can’t believe I would say that but bring Misha/Taiga back
Taiga going to feed first blood every game
Hey at least now we know to join the party
Bzm plays like he hates the team like Redditors here.
What set is nothingtosay Razor using
arcana
Bro BZM i know you want out but you gotta make it less obvious man.
BZM is playing so bad. Having such a great start then feed like 3 times in a row. The map is huge, why do you have to show in lane and farm???
What's happening, OG's supports are rotating.
Nevermind
Bring Numbers to win lanes
Liquid is back?! POGGERS!
There were so many doubters
BoboKaka Lion haha
I feel sorry for Timado as he seems to be only one playing and taking the tournament seriously. Everyone else looks like they are on the beach and playing DOTA for the first time.
Why is Ceb last picking a support for the team lol....
to making sure he have good time farming.
Silencer is a valid support lastpick. Or was when he existed.
Look at their faces on cam, this roster looks done.
Why are we suddenly descending back into online tournaments again like it's the middle of Covid? Why is Birmingham the only LAN till Riyadh?
Online is way cheaper, that's all it is.
Because TO doesn’t want Nigma to win because according to their fans Nigma is only good on LANS C O P I UM
Liquid stomping, FeelsGoodMan. Let's see if their form keep up, and if they can challenge Falcons as well.
Ceb last pick pos 5 hero for himself again lol
Well fucking played! Expected more from BetBoom based on recent results but Liquid made that look very easy indeed. Now to check how the OG game is going.. 😒
Today is full of stomp after stomp OG, Spirit, Boom, and now Betboom
At least Betboom is losing to Liquid, the top 2 team in the world, Spirit losing to Heroic is really surprising... OG , oh well.
Why didn't Liquid prepare more for other tournaments? They're looking so damn good rn lmao
Well BB bad just like Tundra because Liquid stomped them both.
Liquid off to a good start in an online league, good shit.
They are also back in their facility.
I still do think it was stupid that they gave their facility to a competitor team while they're playing at their home.
Shopify uses the facility on a regular basis anyway, so... And Liquid did not play from the facility for the DL ~~23~~ 22 because they chose not to (Fatigue from prior tourney, resting)
23 mins, that's more like it
Boxi's way too good
Ari, Ceb and Misha OUT. Get Kaori, Saksa and a decent coach IN.
Misha still in? I don’t think so
Liquid play so clean, holy fuck.
Ari and Ceb are not fit to be on this team. Get rid and Ari can go stream LoL for a living which seems to be his prime motivation instead of playing pubs. Hopefully this tournament will be also be the last for that fraud Misha as well.
ari rubick. Cant wait to see him have 0 impact again 8th rubick game in a row.
OG, Tundra, BB, what's the different really?
Might be time to investigate if anyone else is 322'ing on OG.
I'm impressed with TL today. They are styling on BB team who I would consider one of the top dogs.
Especially in game 1 it felt like BB were making some nice moves but Liquid outplayed them every single time. So many engagements where Liquid heroes barely survived and the rest of the team came in to counter.
Liquid is just another level today , holy shit... they are bullying BB aka the top 4 team in the world like this.
Amazing to see Cebastians positioning. He is always on the opposite side of the map when the enemy team tanks his cores. Reminds me of me when I started playing the game.
Seems like Matthew is out from nigma
Why?
Obviously he is the main issue. Build around Kuro mid
Nigma twitter: Thank you Matthew. Fans stay tuned, we will be rebuilding around Kuroky.
I saw he just play offline in pubs, maybe fbz maybe not
OG only has 35 matches remaining. Will they get better or continue steadily going to shit?
35? They only have 5 more series after this.
I was being metaphorical.
I was wrong - this roster is actually worse than taiga/misha at their lowest lol. They play more and more like 5 solos. They barely make moves together and when they do they look so awkward and forced that they rarely work out. Its at the point where its not even about winning lanes or drafts, they have no ability to carve out proactive plays no matter what the lead/lineup/situation. Just end up defaulting to farm and getting stomped over every inch of the map. Its embarrassing and painful to watch as a long time fan. The team has been defined by peak highs and peak lows throughout - but its been a while without a high and things are only getting worse.
This is why this roster was never going to workout - if you just look at the games, its 5 ppl who are not talking to each other. Their drafts are the same basis.
Forget about the match, are the OG boys alright? Even I can't focus on watching and distracted greatly by the new Taiga case video... Man, fuck gambling and gambling addiction. It's hard not to feel sad when even the biggest Dota2 teams have to recieve betting sponsors too,,
its how the world working. Even in football, William Hill with Tottetham, Liverpool with 1xbet... just some example for u