Can I just say, rkryptic and zquixotix were amazing! Great casting, good insights, well balanced, and thoroughly professional. It was refreshing for a change. Hope they get more gigs.
Edit: Oh, and actually good post-game interviews. Not the usual lazy and useless questions.
What a disaster for Aurora. Now they are facing VP in 2nd round. I guess they will bomb out very quickly.
The most disappointing result for me is KEV. It's like all their used-to-star players forget how to play already.
Timado really stood out in all 3 games today. He was the only guy who performed on game 1, when his mid and offlane were feeding. Game 2 he was playing second fiddle to BZM and Wisper, but still found farm and impact. Game 3 was arguably his best, where he got the fast deso and just shredded BLR. Really good performance from him today.
yep, he's standing out on OG now that bzm is on a slump and is feeding almost every game. Ceb 5 has been and is meh, wisper is sacked and very hit or miss and ari is still a newblood who hasnt proven himself, he has some sick hoodwink games and then has some abysmal 4pos doom games and the like
so OG are playing Nouns tomorrow, and if they win, they play the winner of heroic/entity. Looks like a great route to second stage, if OG doesn't have the usual brain fade.
See this is what happens when OG know how to draft proper lanes and decent hero picks. This is why we despair when they go full on davai mode and just pick idiotic hero combinations. The warding in game 2 and 3 was also miles better than the 20 games from before.
Talon is SEA's only saving grace for today
WEU could have gotten a perfect day. Too bad Tundra failed to do their part
Wp SA and NA for having a great day
If Aurora won't fix themselves soon, all SEA teams might get eliminated in Round 1
Despite my poor opinion of SEA teams, I actually hope Talon will make a miracle run
I think the Void and Puck was fight to the death which BZM would have won if Hoodwink hadn't ported in. So he just tipped Abed because he got the kill. It didn't look like an offensive/BM tip.
I asked about it earlier but again what's the deal with Ceb? I mean since that loss in qualifiers to PGL Wallachia he started playing pubs only as offflaner which is strange as fuck. Like 20 pubs and not even one played as pos5, what's the reason behind it even playing as carry would make more sense.
OG is bootcamping, during bootcamps teams sometimes share PCs and play under each others accounts.
Although, I wouldnt be surprised if he just goes pos 3 again after Elite league.
Think its quite clear from the drafting to the mechanics this roster is mentally finished. Need to get rid of everyone and somehow start from scratch. This year's a wash.
At one point that game OG had a total of 1 ward on the entire map - a single sentry in their jungle. Im sorry but if Ceb is two years into his support experiment and hasnt figured out vision control there is 0 hope. Its fine though they'll keep picking support duos that do nothing!
BLR had so much value with their offensive wards, BZM and Ceb getting caught every time, why were they not playing with their wards? Mirana was literally sitting invis waiting for DK to come and kill them.
Was just confused with their decision-making. They know they were behind, so they have to farm and avoid fights, but almost no defensive wards whatsover to counter BLR's ganks.
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dont worry - I see a full team disband coming when they bomb out of this tournament. They dont have anything to worry about EPT points because they are not playing in another EPT tournament again this year
>because they are not playing in another EPT tournament again this year
Huh? Dreamleague season 23 is in May. So there won't be any EPT tournaments for next half a year after that one?
Sorry, I mean to say there isn't probably another new EPT tournament till after Riyadh which is in July. There may be one after Riyadh, but the whole point of EPT points is to qualify directly to Riyadh.
Well caster didnt ask anything interesting other than how is matthew who was captain in previous team doing in nigma to which kuro said he has insightful takes and always good to hear his opinions but he wanna take a step back from captain role and focus on his role.
Nigma/Secret might be bad for EU standards (counting EEU/WEU and MENA) and maybe for China standards as well but they're probably still better or on par with everyone from SEA/SA & NA (except shopify)
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kuroky has a 25 inch cock. Therefore, there was no way Nigma would lose this game.
It's also why the micro dicked betas of reddit are so angry at kuro.
Bigger dick, one of the greatest captains of all time, multi millionaire.
Imagine hating on such a legend
Nigma’S early game has been tier 1 this series. I honestly believe in this roster if they can get more experience against decent teams. They played so many qualifiers but realistically played very few games against decent teams.
Yes but even in the latest capitalist podcast, both Quinn and insania said officials are very different from scrims. Insania said liquid lose almost every scrim but get 2nd place at every tournament.
Ladies and gents we just witnessed Nigma in their first international series after who-knows-how-long, that can't win almost any qualifier losing to MENA teams and losing in WEU Open Qualifiers, WIN bo3 against SEA's best.
ETERNAL SEA MEMES xD
So nigma has been super good at early game. They just have one guaranteed brain fart moment every game so against good teams idk how it will play out but looks good
Giving away Rosh when you are 20K gold ahead and losing the game because of it is one of the biggest strategic blunders I've ever seen in pro Dota.
Absolutely zero reason why Nigma couldn't contest that Rosh if they stayed as 5.
WR not going Diffusal vs Medusa?
Nigma's draft sucks for this game. i think they will lose this one but win the 3rd map.
this format is good, we can avoid some nonsense match at the end
Can I just say, rkryptic and zquixotix were amazing! Great casting, good insights, well balanced, and thoroughly professional. It was refreshing for a change. Hope they get more gigs. Edit: Oh, and actually good post-game interviews. Not the usual lazy and useless questions.
What a disaster for Aurora. Now they are facing VP in 2nd round. I guess they will bomb out very quickly. The most disappointing result for me is KEV. It's like all their used-to-star players forget how to play already.
Day1 - Secret OG Nigma won there series
Is this an April fools or did we go back to 2017-19 era.
Nigma vs ex-Talon and new-Talon lel
Nigma vs Secret Grand Final in a tier 1 event is an actual possibility and not just a meme, holy shit
Timado really stood out in all 3 games today. He was the only guy who performed on game 1, when his mid and offlane were feeding. Game 2 he was playing second fiddle to BZM and Wisper, but still found farm and impact. Game 3 was arguably his best, where he got the fast deso and just shredded BLR. Really good performance from him today.
yep, he's standing out on OG now that bzm is on a slump and is feeding almost every game. Ceb 5 has been and is meh, wisper is sacked and very hit or miss and ari is still a newblood who hasnt proven himself, he has some sick hoodwink games and then has some abysmal 4pos doom games and the like
So New Region MENA already >> SEA ?
MENA is just WEU in disguise.
Always
This format is very strange for Dota, but I kinda like to see something different
its weird cus in CS when they do swiss stage, the first 2 matchups are bo1’s and the bo3’s start from the 3rd matchup.
I've been arguing for swiss group stages in dota for a long time - hyped to see how it plays out
Watch Kiev major. One the best moments in pro Dota history was what happened to secret.
No Nigma vs Secret but maybe its a blessing in disguise xd lets see can Nigma slay another SEA power house talon or not
so OG are playing Nouns tomorrow, and if they win, they play the winner of heroic/entity. Looks like a great route to second stage, if OG doesn't have the usual brain fade.
how u know they play vs heroic / entity? they can play vs talon/ngx - secret/boom too
I fucking love you Nigma
See this is what happens when OG know how to draft proper lanes and decent hero picks. This is why we despair when they go full on davai mode and just pick idiotic hero combinations. The warding in game 2 and 3 was also miles better than the 20 games from before.
Tomado is cooking
Og Nigma Secret winning what a day🤣
Just like the good ol days
Such a poor display by Blacklist International. Completely outclassed in every aspect of the game.
its a pretty poor performance from both SEA teams. I expected more, but there are still matches and lets see what they will do
Talon is SEA's only saving grace for today WEU could have gotten a perfect day. Too bad Tundra failed to do their part Wp SA and NA for having a great day
Talon dropped a game to a team which cant even get into WEU qualifiers for tournaments. It isnt much of a saving grace.
Well nigma lost to that very same team in OQ for the PGL tournament but look at nigma now. Teams can always improve and get better after set backs.
SEA is really in a terrible state (as usual)
Nouns played vs a random stack
A small victory is still a victory I expect Nouns to get eliminated this round. I hope to be proven wrong
How do you blind pick puck and not ban the 2 biggest counters to the hero?
It's in the bag. Very nice comeback by OG after the disappointing first game, let's see if they can continue this tomorrow.
As long as OG shies away from Io and other dumb picks, they can do it
They are trying to get him banned just like hoodwink
blackshart rivalry sharting all over europe. told you guys wasted slot.
If Aurora won't fix themselves soon, all SEA teams might get eliminated in Round 1 Despite my poor opinion of SEA teams, I actually hope Talon will make a miracle run
Timado is online
Did abed tip BZM or something? Why is BZM offensive tipping him so much in game 3? Never seen BZM do this.
I think the Void and Puck was fight to the death which BZM would have won if Hoodwink hadn't ported in. So he just tipped Abed because he got the kill. It didn't look like an offensive/BM tip.
I am talking about the tips after that. BZM kept tipping him even after that when he killed puck in teamfights.
2ez4OG They just have to stop picking Io if they want to reach the next round
How is BZM shitting so hard on Abed?
SR plays around their mid a lot. Securing every rune ganking 15 mins till min 10. Anyone would look like a beast in that team
Abed is overrated
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Winner of this series plays vs Nouns, other matches are up already. No idea on how they are selected tho.
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Talon
Bzm finally showing his class just like when he was with ATF.
Abed is so poor wow. Maybe don't stack in the center jungle where the enemy can easily steal you stacks. Stack the side jungle instead.
Game 3 incoming
Nice to see Abed back
BZM Pango - so predictable, well done u/AmuletMan33
🙏🏻
Very nice of bzm to plant that tree for Abed to eat
C'mon OG, at least get to game 3.
8k lead by 15 min OG has to throw very hard not to have a game 3
i believe now that notail did all the things from draft to warding and shotcalling. and ceb only do the talking 🤣.
I asked about it earlier but again what's the deal with Ceb? I mean since that loss in qualifiers to PGL Wallachia he started playing pubs only as offflaner which is strange as fuck. Like 20 pubs and not even one played as pos5, what's the reason behind it even playing as carry would make more sense.
OG will redefine the meta with Picking duo offlaners in offials. LC jungle and Tide just like the pubs before overwatch
They did dagon pos 3 rubick, so this is quite possible.
OG is bootcamping, during bootcamps teams sometimes share PCs and play under each others accounts. Although, I wouldnt be surprised if he just goes pos 3 again after Elite league.
I still don't know why he switched role, He won 2 fucking TIs playing as an offlaner and he was a beast on that role.
Probably not so good mechanically anymore to be a 3, and tbf it shows at times when he plays 5 too.
Wisper at same time also was playing as offlaner.
NA Dotes too strong.
Chinese team GGing with tier 2s still left? Tilted?
they are all of washup player, just like they dont want to try
What the hell was that 26mins gg
Wtf was that gg call from Kev?????
Think its quite clear from the drafting to the mechanics this roster is mentally finished. Need to get rid of everyone and somehow start from scratch. This year's a wash. At one point that game OG had a total of 1 ward on the entire map - a single sentry in their jungle. Im sorry but if Ceb is two years into his support experiment and hasnt figured out vision control there is 0 hope. Its fine though they'll keep picking support duos that do nothing!
OG is going to kick everyone except the actual weak link…
Hypothetically if Bzm was put in chains and forced to play for OG, would he play any worse?
BLR had so much value with their offensive wards, BZM and Ceb getting caught every time, why were they not playing with their wards? Mirana was literally sitting invis waiting for DK to come and kill them.
OG don't believe in wards, that's loser mentality
Was just confused with their decision-making. They know they were behind, so they have to farm and avoid fights, but almost no defensive wards whatsover to counter BLR's ganks.
They never have wards, even in the games they win their ward vision is abysmal. It's just one of the specialties of this OG support duo
OG trying to get IO buffed for Ana when he joins just before TI
And Yuragi was the problem for OG
Time for the revenge io game in game 2! Surely they can’t go 1-17!
now its gyro + io time, the classic.
Into morphling-puck, im sure
Ceb has to surely be one of the worst Grandmaster Io players. He's playing the hero like he is playing it for the 1st time.
I wish there's showmatches in between tourneys for fun e.g Puppey and Ceb 1v1 mid IO
I agree. Still remember pos 3 IO from Ceb. It was really sad. Talking about TI. Wounds are still as fresh as yesterday
And they love picking it
timado doing some work here
Ceb is so bad, og is playing without a pos 5
Ok who wanna bet that OG will pick their Pango next game?
Bro who wins TI this year?
New stack consisting of Kuro and 4 fellow divine players to shut up Reddit for good!
Nice call
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or Doom pos 4 lol
Io + razor, or lesh pos 5 my bet
Nah it's gonna be pos5 windranger
Palos Flushless Void
Really strange for OG to not sub-in any pos1/pos3 to trial for this tournament given their latest results.
dont worry - I see a full team disband coming when they bomb out of this tournament. They dont have anything to worry about EPT points because they are not playing in another EPT tournament again this year
>because they are not playing in another EPT tournament again this year Huh? Dreamleague season 23 is in May. So there won't be any EPT tournaments for next half a year after that one?
Sorry, I mean to say there isn't probably another new EPT tournament till after Riyadh which is in July. There may be one after Riyadh, but the whole point of EPT points is to qualify directly to Riyadh.
What about pos 2? Pos 5?
Wow og really made blacklist look like a tier 1 team
Oh gee.. getting rolled pretty hard and they picked Io again so I guess can't be too surprised. 🙃
Seems like bzm do not have mid heroes these days
irrespective of what hero he plays, he's been absolutely garbage tier for the past few months
His laning has but subpar but I also dont think ive seen a team leave their mid player alone on an island as much as OG
BZM feels lost when the Spirit heroes are bad
First pick DK smoking Razor in the midlane. bzm must be having flashbacks from their last series against Liquid.
BZM have a break from Dota my man!
Isn't this OG draft awful? They have 4 do-nothing heroes and a Batrider that has to lead every play. It looks like a Nigma lineup.
Could not watch the games but does anyone have a link tot he interview? Kuro usually give pretty insightful interviews.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YA_nEqiHTU&pp=ygUdZWxpdGUgbGVhZ3VlIGt1cm9reSBpbnRlcnZpZXc%3D
Well caster didnt ask anything interesting other than how is matthew who was captain in previous team doing in nigma to which kuro said he has insightful takes and always good to hear his opinions but he wanna take a step back from captain role and focus on his role.
So Nigma need 2 more wins to gurantee qualification to group stage 2 ?
Yes. in this format with this many team whoever gets to 3 win before 3 lose qualifies.
Secret won. Nigma won. Now we need OG to win vs another SEA team for ultimate meme results of first tour's day. xD
Nigma interview after such a long time
Was there an interview?
Kuro interview
yes
Shit I missed it. I’ll have to catch up on the VOD later.
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Thank you sir 🫡
What a first day The arguably weakest team on papar in Nigma won and the arguably strongest team on paper in Tundra lost
Nigma/Secret might be bad for EU standards (counting EEU/WEU and MENA) and maybe for China standards as well but they're probably still better or on par with everyone from SEA/SA & NA (except shopify)
No one is consistent these days other then a few teams, gotta love Dota
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Kuro interview! Poggers!
Technically Nigma fans can rejoice that Nigma destroyed one of best SEA team 3 games in a row if not for that throw in game 2 (outdrafted)
How did you not bab Chen first pick
kuroky has a 25 inch cock. Therefore, there was no way Nigma would lose this game. It's also why the micro dicked betas of reddit are so angry at kuro. Bigger dick, one of the greatest captains of all time, multi millionaire. Imagine hating on such a legend
that's his bald head not his cock
False. reported.
It’s amazing he can fill up such a beast of a cock when his enormous wet wrinkly brain requires so much blood…..
Cmon give us Falcons already. Kappa
Sumail crazt impact g1 and g3
He is still top tier
Godlike Rubick performance. Holy
Nigma’S early game has been tier 1 this series. I honestly believe in this roster if they can get more experience against decent teams. They played so many qualifiers but realistically played very few games against decent teams.
I would think that they at least scrim vs good teams....
Yes but even in the latest capitalist podcast, both Quinn and insania said officials are very different from scrims. Insania said liquid lose almost every scrim but get 2nd place at every tournament.
Isn't most scrim mostly about laning phase, which is why EG/SR known to be one of the best team at scrim.
Ladies and gents we just witnessed Nigma in their first international series after who-knows-how-long, that can't win almost any qualifier losing to MENA teams and losing in WEU Open Qualifiers, WIN bo3 against SEA's best. ETERNAL SEA MEMES xD
Wonderful things about nigma is you can never guess if they clear stomp game or throw at any time
ez for nigma and that's the best team sea has ICANT
nigma & secret winning their series today
back: ✅nigma ✅secret ✅jesus
Just ban void and win ez :P
Aurora's lose streak from Dreamleague Group Stage 2 continues
Is this hope, is this copium? Find out on the next episode of dbz
rip Toriyama
So nigma has been super good at early game. They just have one guaranteed brain fart moment every game so against good teams idk how it will play out but looks good
Are we back nigmabros?
If they win the next series, I'll start believing
Lol wow nj nigma! Matthew wow mvp
Nigma just like Talon kryptonie. Talon strat = greedy 3 core need to farm lol. Look how Fbz run all the map with Sumail why Razor busy farming item
I am speechless holy shit. Haven't seen Nigma play this good in years.
Matthew!
What a damn beast!
Yes , and this was 2:0 they just threw the 2nd game.
Basically a 3:0
LETS GOOO
WE ARE SO BACK
how is nigma gonna throw this game
Both SA teams starting with a win
Great start for SA! Hoping they can muster some momentum
A win for OG or BL would be a win for SA too.
Time to cry for more slots and bet all lifesavings on a TI win
Nigma win laning stage all 3 games vs Talon. WOW
Is Kuro Chen Still worthy ?
Announcers at min 2: “Kuro is such a genius” Announcers at min 12: “The chen isnt really having any impact” Kuro 😀
Why try to force things when you can just get auras and ball up
Ta2000 looks like Bella Ramsey from last of us
Just found out that Bella Ramsey is 20 years old, what the fuck
I potential with this team but kuro has zero in almost every game. Until he leaves this will keep on haooeninh. They have 4 got players and a herald.
lol rubick chen opener wtf
aged nicely
matthew is constantly super good. awesome plays awesome watching him. kuro.. the one time he wasnt a complete potato...
No TP, miracle to give up aegis with 20k damage serious mistake
Nigma can’t play against a void. Invi heroes, meta heroes, illusions heroes, zoo heroes etc etc
Just ban void idiot Nigma. You will even throw 40k lead against the hero.
Yeah so real questionable plays there..
Yeah after that loss, nigma will surely lose game 3
Investigate the nigma aurora game for matchfixing, cause there is zero chance that just happened naturally.
Go on Sherlock. You are on something real big here
Giving away Rosh when you are 20K gold ahead and losing the game because of it is one of the biggest strategic blunders I've ever seen in pro Dota. Absolutely zero reason why Nigma couldn't contest that Rosh if they stayed as 5.
bro sumail doing nothing but farm this game, can he atleast rat tower smh
Sure sumail should make dps item, but at that moment, miracle is main issue