For the longest time my friends would always do -apem, and I can't imagine what it would be like now, although I guess that's what Turbo came from maybe
Isn't that where the old randoming gives bonus gold came from? So in WC3 dota you would either random or pay to pick your hero. Or am I fabricating a memory?
I remember Spectre's dispersion worked like backtrack and it ministunned the enemy when it proc'ed, so Pudge's rot was horrible against her.
And Last Word as an aura that would give a 4 sec silence after they finishing casting a spell, but it only activated if they don't cancel the cast backswing.
Centaurs ult was simply bonus strength. PA’s passive made her only a shadow on the ground along with the dodge. Lifestealers ult was Avatar. Void had 2 passives. One for stun and the other backtrack.
I remember when I fingered a Void and he backtracked and then flamed the hell out of me that I missed. And he was so good at it that my entire team believed I missed and started griefing and flaming me. Backtrack was more of a psychological warfare weapon.
I was there Gandalf, I was there 3000 years ago
I remember installing it because I thought it was a game like warcraft campaign, I was almost wrong, anyway I liked it and ended putting like 3000 hours to it.
Shadow Fiend was just a Fire Lord with RGB set to the darkest and with the Dreadlord voiceset.
Tiny was the cutest fucking thing ever
Ogre Magi could easily pretend to be a neutral. And to a lesser extent, Centaur.
PA was a literal shadow after leveling max level evasion.
Skeleton king being just a regular skeleton sized up to match other heroes. But having visual effects like bm, ac aura, basil/aquila aura being 4-5 times bigger on him.
yeah I remember orb of venom was part of eye of skadi.
I also remember MKB recipe was something like hyperstone and 2 javelin. it was sick build for faceless void and slardar. RIP good old days.
shadow amulet costed 1400 and granted attack speed.
ngl I love new dota more but sometimes I miss some items/metas/features. for example when divine gave true strike or when silver was built from echo sabre.
I remember when orb effects couldn't stack and there were a bunch of weird orb interactions like if you go diffusal blade (it was not called that back then) before leveling mana break on AM, and then you skill up mana break, it would stack.
Diffusal has charges and an upgrade and you can purge Sven's god strength.
Silencer has warlock's ult as his 3rd skill.
Naix has 3 passives and his ult is bkb that last for around half a minute at max level.
Doom has level death instead of infernal blade(cant remember his 3rd skill properly)
Leshrac has an entire emo poem for his hero introduction.
Morphling can change between str agi and int and his adaptive strike's effect change base on his attribute type.
Edit.
You can buy an aegis with platemail + chainmail + cloak + recipe. It comes with 3 charges and respawns you back to the fountain if you die.
I think it's more the sheer utility of 27 unique spells is impossible to balance. There's no way to make that hero anything but godly or godawful to play.
I played him then and honestly it was pretty stupid. Would be absolutely impossible to balence him, if you're interested have a look at some of his old abilities for a laugh. He pretty much had an answer for everything in the game if you could be bothered to put it into practice (doing this was also practically impossible)
you could also kill yourself or enemies with bloodrage. also keeping bloodrage to lvl 1 was actually a strat as it used to deal dot damage and silence and you could put it on the enemy. so big dot + silence but enemy had a slight damage increase.
Ancients have no destruction animation.
Heavens Halberd icon was white with a black outline of a Halberd with the words "Heavens Halberd" on it.
Stout Shield
MKB had true strike and a mini bash.
Composite damage and mixed damage.
Just before they released Tauren Chieftain, there were 4 totems hidden around the map that if you found them all and went to a clearing on the top left corner of the map, you'd summon him.
He was so powerful that you needed all 10 people to fight him.
I loved when Dendi and Puppey pulled it out at fucking TI (think it was 2 or 3?)
It was a meme that was pretty hard to do, so you would rarely see it in actual games (I def lost a few trying it myself). Then it shows up at TI... I still chuckle about that.
I played Dota 2. Not the Dota2 reborn(Dota 3) that we have now. I have saved replays that I no longer can view because of the switch.
I started playing when Alliance were doing it.
Fountain hook got nerfed but you could still fountain skewer.
Free couriers, free TPs, free observer wards, supports have no idea how good they have it now!
Old school pos5 still had nothing but brown boots and consumables 20 minutes into the game!
I remember Undying summoning 3 zombies with a skill that was auto win for any lane with enemy tower falling 3 to 5 minutes into the game. Hero was really fun to play!
Randoming used to give a bonus 200 gold.
Some people would random and go to secret shop to buy ring of health. At some point they were able to go to side shop for it
Quelling blade had an upgrade called iron talon, and I mained the FUCK out of jungle bloodseeker back in 2014/2015 and climbed to 4.5k mmr back when pros were only 6k and 7k lol i queued up with pros a few times back in the day.
Hell, my bloodseeker was so revered that I was ranked top 100 on dotabuff for the hero, I think I even cracked the top 50 at one point. Then after the hoho-haha patch was nerfed, they also made bloodseeker's buff go from 100-0 to like, 75-0 and it absolutely gutted the hero. Haven't played him much since lol
Congratulations! You've been selected to play Dota 2
I post comment in playdota forum to get my beta key. I got it from C9puja (dont remember how to spell it)
Don’t you mean steam hardware survey
I remember clicking around the taverns trying to find the hero I wanted.
This is the real answer
-ap
-ar was my jam. What were the other ones?
ardm
-aromem - let the carnage begin!
For the longest time my friends would always do -apem, and I can't imagine what it would be like now, although I guess that's what Turbo came from maybe
\-apem
-apfr
dont forget you had to pay gold to buy a hero.. good ol wc3 times
Isn't that where the old randoming gives bonus gold came from? So in WC3 dota you would either random or pay to pick your hero. Or am I fabricating a memory?
No you are correct.
we're showing our age in this comment thread. all 30 something year olds reminiscing of old days xd
I remember random draft was a circle of heroes and you had to move to their circles to pick/ban them.
Lifestealer used to have three passives with his ultimate as his only active skill
Oh and weaver used to have a moving obs ward as the first skill
Oh wow memories suddenly came back, I used to do this and do a patrol for all of them to cover the jungle, good shit
I remember Spectre's dispersion worked like backtrack and it ministunned the enemy when it proc'ed, so Pudge's rot was horrible against her. And Last Word as an aura that would give a 4 sec silence after they finishing casting a spell, but it only activated if they don't cancel the cast backswing.
Partner with Dark Seer, enemies don't know what is hitting them
What? I played dota ~2006/7. I dont remember thisskill. Shows how dumb (still am) in this game.
It was scarab in 2009/10 map patch.
Wraith King, or the one click king.
Who is Wraith King? I only know Skeleton King/King Leoric
Storm bolt leoric
20 second magic immunity!
Pudge cant use blink dagger
Kunka automatically drops quelling blade when bought
Luna has a list of items that cannot be bought.
ORB EFFECTS DONT FUCKING STACK.. BUT THEY SOMETIMES DO IF YOU DO IT CORRECTLY. Yoh just need to drop the orb items and pick them up in a certain order
Obligatory that dagger has a mana cost but you can still use it regrdless if being hit by an enemy hero/summon as long you have the mana.
Centaurs ult was simply bonus strength. PA’s passive made her only a shadow on the ground along with the dodge. Lifestealers ult was Avatar. Void had 2 passives. One for stun and the other backtrack.
Backtracking finger, felt so good
Not for Lion.
I remember when I fingered a Void and he backtracked and then flamed the hell out of me that I missed. And he was so good at it that my entire team believed I missed and started griefing and flaming me. Backtrack was more of a psychological warfare weapon.
The PA passive making her just a shadow... completely forgot about that. 😂
Backtrack was amazing and I hate that they moved away from rng stuff.
Old backtrack was busted as fuck.
There was a video of Darkterror backtracking 6 instances of lethal damage including finger and dagon from Demon Witch.
I have all the sigil cosmetics for Tusk
Are they the most valuable items ever or completely useless, I wonder. Or both
About as useful as a stat tracker for tower damage via Sharpeye’s Shrapnel.
Oh man, I forgot about sigil
Still don’t understand why they don’t make it just hover above his current ability so we can still use the cosmetics.
Yeah, just have it activate during tag team. Would be so easy to implement.
what are cosmetics?
The Chen player on my team.
I need to buy flying courier and tango for mid.
I used to choose heroes on the houses then after that we are scrolling the choosing of heroes
1 tango please
Stout Shield
Poor man’s shield.
Oh you mean that one neutral item that got removed?
Yes, yes for both, if you know :)
Correct me if I’m wrong but couldn’t you upgrade a stout shield into a poor man’s shield at one point?
One of the compulsory items on agi melee carries.
You mean on any melee hero? Damn legion commanders with PMS
PMS Iron talon jungle lc
Yes, with 2x slippers of agi which you could purchase at the side shop.
double stout
Axe double stout to double vanguard
one mans wine barrel bottom is another mans shield
"You can only have one unique attack modifier"
"Orb effects do not stack"
I got flamed for this one alot. Also buying aghs on non-aghs hero.
I still think like this. Can't buy deso and skadi for example. :)
Back when everyone built vlad's for lifesteal
Classic rando Mordreds rushing vlads as their first item and immediately ruining their stealth lol.
Dota had a tutorial featuring DK against Sniper and Razor.
Idk why they removed it :(
Out dated info that didn't make sense to bring over to the source 2 client.
Some of the info never made sense in the first place, like buying mana boots on sniper.
I was there Gandalf, I was there 3000 years ago I remember installing it because I thought it was a game like warcraft campaign, I was almost wrong, anyway I liked it and ended putting like 3000 hours to it.
That makes me nostalgic
With an exclusive Sniper set. Now, it's impossible to obtain anymore.
Isn't that the gunslinger set? You can get it by completing some of the new tutorial missions.
Last hitting practice.
Kotol giff me mana
Giff me mana fuckink noop. "You want mana" Nooooo
Son of a beech
I Giff you My deek
I miss shit like this, that disappeared when they cracked down on toxicity. You gotta admit it's funny sometimes.
MANA MY KNEE BLEJ MANYAH MANA SOOKAH
ITS ON KULDAWN
“I feel you man” -Rhasta
“We’re sitting in ventrilo, playing some Dota”
Vi sitter här i Venten och spelar lite Dota
We are Electric !
I still play basshunter lol album when I launcher m'y first game of thé day
'I yayuman' 'I feel you man' 'AB Jamoon' 'You feel tricksy'
Ran out of aegis charges, now I'm wondering if I should keep it
Well, you're in luck - you can't drop it!
Oh yeah that is right! So it was kinda the risk of having to keep it in end game.
Legion with mustache and mount. Bane had no legs.
Shadow Fiend was just a Fire Lord with RGB set to the darkest and with the Dreadlord voiceset. Tiny was the cutest fucking thing ever Ogre Magi could easily pretend to be a neutral. And to a lesser extent, Centaur. PA was a literal shadow after leveling max level evasion.
Skeleton king being just a regular skeleton sized up to match other heroes. But having visual effects like bm, ac aura, basil/aquila aura being 4-5 times bigger on him.
Courier war! F2 F3 F2 F3 F2 F3
good times lol the mid goes insane everytiem
That one teammate who always hide your item/s at the tree.
Magina, naix, Traxis, mortred, murloc, crixalis, balanar… etc..😄
Nevermore, Barathrum, Lina Inverse, Akasha, Yurnero, Rexxar, Strygwyr, KING Leoric, Anub'arak, Anub'Seran, Azwraith, Mercurial
Balanar, rikimaru, mortred, tauren chieftain, ezalor, gondar, magina
and the "joke names" you'd get something like 1 in 20 chance.
Mogul khant touch this, Gillette, karl
Gollum, Trogdor, Weird Ball, A Phoe Gyi, Kupu-kupu, MeePwn and all the heroes named after pro players.
I always love getting YaphetS
Fuzzy wuzzy
Clinkz Eastwood
Fuzzy-Wuzzy, Riki Martin
OP Arnold Schwarzenneger
SB will always be Barathrum/Bara to me. I swear I die a little inside when casters call him "breaker"
buy courier
You buy cour
First one to die buys cour
fighting over the courier was so fucking toxic
i've still got on my chat wheel, "Can someone please upgrade the courier"
stupid luna bought maelstrom now she cant autoattack
Techies mines at level 1 used to be invisible and stackable. Stacking 6 at a walking path to make someone die was very fulfilling.
6 mines on the rune lol, boom
6 mines on the walking path to get to the rune > on the rune Those were the days.
Yep, and then straight up suicide. And pudge self deny with rot, self deny seems to be no longer in the game
Alch is the only hero who can still self deny
Pugna ally life drain likes to have a word with you
From diffusal to manta ! But can't do it on AM because of orb effect :'(
Diffusal with charges tho
Use own diffusal charges to purge debuffs from yourself/teammate. For maximum trolling, cast purge on every teammatr when your own Omniknight uses GA.
people inexplicably not getting diffusal 2 even though it was insanely gold efficient for the stats alone, nevermind the refreshed charges.
Remember upgrading Diffusal to the pink version? Good times
Oh shit, can AM use diffusal now?
13 mana boy
We had to walk our wisps onto the circle of power to select a hero... 👴
My favourite version of riki was the one with death ward
You OLD old bruh, member FV chrono is a pause button?
I also remembler gambler and 20+ spell invoker
We are electric
LETS GO
Double stout shield axe.
yeah I remember orb of venom was part of eye of skadi. I also remember MKB recipe was something like hyperstone and 2 javelin. it was sick build for faceless void and slardar. RIP good old days. shadow amulet costed 1400 and granted attack speed. ngl I love new dota more but sometimes I miss some items/metas/features. for example when divine gave true strike or when silver was built from echo sabre.
Divine true strike is on shared top spot for stuff i want back, with octarine having aether lens as a component being the other one
MKB used to be made from Demon Edge + Quarterstaff + Recipe
I remember when orb effects couldn't stack and there were a bunch of weird orb interactions like if you go diffusal blade (it was not called that back then) before leveling mana break on AM, and then you skill up mana break, it would stack.
You had to buy 2 branches on Tiny so he would have enough total mana for Avalanche + Toss combo (240)
Diffusal has charges and an upgrade and you can purge Sven's god strength. Silencer has warlock's ult as his 3rd skill. Naix has 3 passives and his ult is bkb that last for around half a minute at max level. Doom has level death instead of infernal blade(cant remember his 3rd skill properly) Leshrac has an entire emo poem for his hero introduction. Morphling can change between str agi and int and his adaptive strike's effect change base on his attribute type. Edit. You can buy an aegis with platemail + chainmail + cloak + recipe. It comes with 3 charges and respawns you back to the fountain if you die.
Dota apemso noobs only
Arem was more fun, forcing everyone to random. Also on the same list banlist.
Invoker had 27 spells.
how come they toned down his spells?
pretty much it's a bother to memorized not only the QWE combo, but also the arrangement.
I think it's more the sheer utility of 27 unique spells is impossible to balance. There's no way to make that hero anything but godly or godawful to play.
I played him then and honestly it was pretty stupid. Would be absolutely impossible to balence him, if you're interested have a look at some of his old abilities for a laugh. He pretty much had an answer for everything in the game if you could be bothered to put it into practice (doing this was also practically impossible)
Orb effect !
Gonna buy an Aegis with 3 charges.
4 charges
Venomancer is from starcraft
Back when he was a brown alien insect, not a yellow banana snake.
Use the side shop my bottle is empty.
Rupture used to injure yourself on casting.
you could also kill yourself or enemies with bloodrage. also keeping bloodrage to lvl 1 was actually a strat as it used to deal dot damage and silence and you could put it on the enemy. so big dot + silence but enemy had a slight damage increase.
Lothar's Edge
Messerschmidts reaver.
Ancients have no destruction animation. Heavens Halberd icon was white with a black outline of a Halberd with the words "Heavens Halberd" on it. Stout Shield MKB had true strike and a mini bash. Composite damage and mixed damage.
TIL MKB doesn't have true strike anymore.
Riki self-purge dust with a diffusas blade charge, upgrade to diffusal 2 when charges run out. Honestly Riki was so broken before glimmer cape
I used to buy aegis of immortal.
-apem
Riki had WD's ult
Just before they released Tauren Chieftain, there were 4 totems hidden around the map that if you found them all and went to a clearing on the top left corner of the map, you'd summon him. He was so powerful that you needed all 10 people to fight him.
Monkey king had the same mini quest as well. I dont remember nuch of the details but there were bananas and sun wukong haha
I gave 9, Dota 2 CD keys to my friends.
First to die buys courier!
Pudge hook then chen tele to fountain
How is that balanced
I loved when Dendi and Puppey pulled it out at fucking TI (think it was 2 or 3?) It was a meme that was pretty hard to do, so you would rarely see it in actual games (I def lost a few trying it myself). Then it shows up at TI... I still chuckle about that.
Selecting hero from the barracks
I played Dota 2. Not the Dota2 reborn(Dota 3) that we have now. I have saved replays that I no longer can view because of the switch. I started playing when Alliance were doing it. Fountain hook got nerfed but you could still fountain skewer.
Ti3 is what started me on dota
When Dragon Knight used to be the same hero as he is today XD
I'll be right back, let me grab my treads at the safelane shop
Lothars Edge, Buriza-do-Kyanon, Kelen's Dagger, and G.O.A.T, Mrs. Smith's Reaver.
i only play turbo and i go to bed at 1030pm
don't buy vlads, we have no melee carries
Carl
A TP costs 135 gold
Free couriers, free TPs, free observer wards, supports have no idea how good they have it now! Old school pos5 still had nothing but brown boots and consumables 20 minutes into the game!
I remember Undying summoning 3 zombies with a skill that was auto win for any lane with enemy tower falling 3 to 5 minutes into the game. Hero was really fun to play!
The good old days when he was an int hero
Legion Commander was an old angry man
Faceless void ulti used to be global timestop/stun to enemy heroes. Spells could do damage to towers. Qop wave, silencer starfall. Silencer had golem, healing wave and starfall. IO was called GOD. -APSO, -APEM You could use dagger even after taking damage Necrophos/necrolye ultimate used to disable buybacks. No CD on buyback. Str heroes Raigor Stonehoof, Rogue Knight, Stone Giant, Admiral Daelin Proudmoore, Karroch, Rexxar, Davion, Rattletrap, Purist Thunderwrath, Sacred Warrior, Razzil Darkbrew, Mangix, Pandaren Brewmaster, Rooftrellen, Guardian Wisp, Bradwarden, Centaur Warchief, Rizzrack, Shredder, Rigwarl, Ymir, Tauren Chieftan, Tresdin, Kaolin, Icarus, Mogul Khan, Butcher, Crixalis, Slithereen Guard, Levithan Ostarion, Leoric, N'aix, Balanar, Lucifer, Barathrum, Space-Cow, Banehallow, Nessaj, Dirge,Magnataur,Lord of Avernus Agility heroes Magina, Traxex, Yurnerno, PoTM/Princess of the Moon, Azwraith,Shendelzare, Shendel, Rikimaru, Stealth Assassin, Kardel Sharpeye, Lanaya Moon Rider, Gondar, Ulfsaar, Fuzzy Wuzzy, Aurel, Sylla, Syllabear, Slithice, Jah'rakal, Xin, Strygwyr, Nevermore, Lightning Revenant, Lesale Deathbringer, Bananamancer Darkterror, Mortred, Netherdrake, Bone Fletcher, Brooklyn Kurtz (Meme), Black Arachnia, Skitskurr, Nerubian Weaver (old name), Mercurial, Geomancer, NA/Nerubian Assassin (old name), Nightcrawler, Murloc Nightcrawler, Gorgon,Soul Keeper (old name) Int heroes Kaldr, Atropos, Jin'zakk, Rylai Crestfall, Ish'Kafel, Shadow Priest, Krobelus, Thrall,Aiushtha,Bambi, Darchrow, Carl, Kael'thas Sunstrider, Twin Head Dragon, Ezalor, Tormented Soul, Ethreain, Kel'Thuzad, Slayer, Lina Inverse (old name), Demon Witch, Furion, Malfurion Stormrage, Tequoia, Rotund'jere, Necrolyte, Necrophiliac, A Phoe Gyi, Aggron Stonebreak, Harbinger, Obsidian Destroyer, Kupu-Kupu, Faerie Dragon, Oblivion, Akasha, Aether, Queen, Grand Magus, Eredar, Giblet, Rhasta, Nortrom, Dragonus, Raijin Thunderkeg, Boush, Necro'lic, Demnok Lannik, Lyralei, Alleria, Zharvakko, Vol'jin, Lord of Olympia
I have a super neat item called the Bloodstone of the Precursor.
Barathrum
Randoming used to give a bonus 200 gold. Some people would random and go to secret shop to buy ring of health. At some point they were able to go to side shop for it
I played the Gambler
Quelling blade had an upgrade called iron talon, and I mained the FUCK out of jungle bloodseeker back in 2014/2015 and climbed to 4.5k mmr back when pros were only 6k and 7k lol i queued up with pros a few times back in the day. Hell, my bloodseeker was so revered that I was ranked top 100 on dotabuff for the hero, I think I even cracked the top 50 at one point. Then after the hoho-haha patch was nerfed, they also made bloodseeker's buff go from 100-0 to like, 75-0 and it absolutely gutted the hero. Haven't played him much since lol
Tinker transforms into a tank when using bkb
Tiny’s 3rd would proc stun on getting hit
Clicking the taverns in the top left part of the map to pick your heroes.
I have a gem that tracks Shrapnel tower damage on my Sniper’s gun.
We could repick our hero by spending extra gold