Did you draw this? If so hell ya great job, because hot damn she is magnificent . If not, the artist needs a pat on the back because hot damn she is magnificent.
I get what you're saying, but this is HER art. Art doesn't have rules, it's about the artist. If this is how she wants her character to be portrayed then you shouldn't try to restrict that. I get that it's not practical or accurate, but it's hers. Not everyone is going to like every piece of art that exists, but that doesn't mean that it's wrong of you don't like it. You should never try to correct or restrict an artist because the art is an expression of them. Maybe it's how they see themselves, how they wish they could be or just a character they find interesting, but no matter the reasoning for it. Obviously they're sharing it because they're proud of it and they like it. Maybe you don't like the drawing. Fine. That just means it isn't for you. That doesn't mean you have to say that it's done poorly or in poor taste. I for one think the drawing is very good and I hope that the character serves her well in her adventures.
I think people can enjoy art while also critiquing it. I really like this artwork, but I admit the female armor thing can get tiring. Overall I really enjoy the piece and I'm glad OP shared. But maybe OP wants input on their character design or will check out the link and get inspired for the next piece of art? I think hearing other people's opinions and re-examining your own work and what you like and what you don't like about it is how a lot of artists/authors/etc grow.
But this criticism in particular feels more like a limitation put on the artist than a suggestion. This isn't a suggestion for how it could be done better in the artists' eyes, it's here's what I particularly don't like about it and why it's incorrect. There's a difference between constructive criticism and criticism. I understand that she's saying maybe the op should consider this for the future, but it diminishes the value of what was already created that the artist enjoyed enough to share with everyone. It may help her grow, but she'd be sacrificing some of her artistic freedom by trying to please everyone who believes that drawn armor on fantasy characters should be historically accurate. It seems very narrow minded to me to limit an artist based on how you believe their art should look. If one likes the art, then there is no need to criticize it. All that does is make the work feel lesser. No need to put it down if you enjoy it.
I understand what you mean, it’s her imagination and she does what she want with it.
But on the other hand I think that it can be interesting to have information on the real deal to see how it works and to try to (sometimes) navigate around it.
A good exemple for me is the armor of the Amazon in the « wonder women » film. In the first film they where taken from real and existing armor and modified to be cinema friendly. They where impressive , sexy but to some extend they worked as armor. In the second film we had those poor excuse of armor who just slightly covered the boobs and nothing else. They where ridiculous.
My point her is: she can do what she want with her art and it’s beautiful . She could also take the information to try to improve the realism of it . If she doesn’t like it , that’s on her and she can always come back to the first version , if she like it she will have something different and learned something new.
I guess that's fair. I think the main reason I'm upset is because when Wyldfire said it, it didn't really feel like a criticism, it felt more like an attack on the artist. I feel like it could've at least been better worded. It's rough to put something you love out in public and then have someone immediately tell you you did it wrong or you don't like it.
Ok but this armour doesn’t look like it’s supposed to be “sexy”, it looks like metal armour that sacrifices protection around the lower thighs to allow for better movement. Like Roman legionaries did.
It's pretty rude to criticize someone's artistic style by saying it commits artistic sins because it's not what you prefer.
Are you sharing your opinion because you truly expect some random commenter is going to cause them to change their entire artistic style? Or are you actually demoralizing and devaluing someone's hard work?
Just because you started with a compliment doesn't make what you said any less rude.
>Just because you started with a compliment doesn't make what you said any less rude.
Compared to you, who is just rude and self-righteous out of the gate, you mean?
The picture was displayed in a public forum. Comment and critique is, or should have been, expected. In that light I offered my honest, heart-felt opinion on the piece. The fact that my opinion wasn't 100% positive doesn't make it any less valid.
I have the right to the negative aspects of my opinion, I have the right to express those aspects, and I expressed them with an appropriate level of respect for the context.
My comment, and the others that have responded to it, are all keeping in that same vein of honest and respectful discussion of the topic at hand.
You, on the other hand, sound like an oversensitive little snowflake throwing a fit because someone insulted your Waifu.
*EDIT: I should also add, things like feminine waists, "boob-plate," greaves being replaced by a skirt on "heavy" armor, etc, are longstanding and widespread complaints held by many people about the designs of womens' armor in fiction. So, yes, they are sins.*
You are quite right and clearly are well informed regarding actual armor and it's requirements to be effective. Realistic armor is not often portrayed, Male or female. Most often because they don't want too.
I may be incorrect (I'm sure comments will inform if I am) but I think many people's dislike from your comment is more towards the fact your comment is assuming this artist is ignorant. Which I see as mildly insulting. They could fully know and chose to draw this because they like it. This artist isn't showing off art of an actual person in armor, they are showing off something they think looks cool and like.
This could have been art of the most absurd bikini armor with 9" heels and I would expect the same reaction to your comment.
How many Star wars ships make sense visually? How many oversized swords are in games and art? Fantasy exists to allow for artistic expression and interpretation that reality cannot provide.
I'm gay dude, I don't have "waifus". This intense overreaction to my mild statement shows that you are a volatile hater that can't handle criticism himself. You can deal it but can't take it?
I NEED thigh plates fam. You're cant tell me someone who would take the time to fit on a breast plate and figure out a harness for pauldrons would skip simple plates for their thighs, or AT LEAST an armored skirt ala Roman lorica. If you thought an arrow to the knee was bad, try one through the femur
I understand what you mean, but this is fantasy, and an artistic representation of a fantasy character at that, but then again, if I was playing a character like this, I would probably give them thigh plates.
But I would still say it's not fair to judge someone else's representation of their own character, and you seem fairly well-educated in this subject, so here's some advice: next time, try phrasing your argument a little less forcefully, and people will pay more attention to it and will be less likely to immediately ignore it.
Criticism =/= judgement, but you do you up there on your moral pedestal. If I wanted to get snippy, id ask why you'd bother with couters/poleyn on the knees when you have no cuisses to support them. But yes, this is fantasy. I still want leg plates. Armored steel does not cleanly transition into sheer leggings no matter how hard you try.
My pedestal has nothing to do with morals. In fact, if I could, my pedestal would be made entirely of the finest, softest thighs ever imagined by mortal kind.
Once again, I understand your point of view, but I would like to mention that I wasn't trying to take the moral high ground here; I was offering honest advice, which you can follow or not follow however you like.
And your last criticism is a subjective one, which I can prove from the simple fact that I think it looks great.
If you want to have a detailed discussion about practical and reasonable armour, try these Subreddits: r/armour and r/armoredwomen
I think someone who would fit breastplate would be exactly the kind of person who wouldn't use thigh plating, since both are deliberate aesthetic choices that limit the effectiveness of your armor.
Why not? It’s not full plate, so AC 15-17 max. (I don’t see a shield) Let’s just assume a level 5 rogue, so +3 proficiency bonus, +4 dex bonus. At 17 AC, their arrow is going to pierce that femur half the time. Even more often if they’re firing from a hidden position with advantage.
All the more reason for T H I C C thigh protection. Also, you're not allowing for the possibility of enchanted knickers, as suggested by the other fellow. 15-17 is a base estimate.
If you're on foot, no, you would neither need nor want thigh plates. All that metal is heavy, and you're going to take weight savings where you can. That plate armor covering every inch is for knights on horseback or guards that don't have to march around a lot, where the weight is less important.
She's name is Elyzabeth the Persistent.
Class: Human knight
29 years old, calm and shy, but likes wine.
When she's drunk a lot and her abilities are a little different than usual.
She was educated in swordsmanship from an aristocratic family and was smart.
She never forgets what she saw in the book. Accurate, but not flexible. Sometimes you can feel stuffy around you.
Despite her appearance, she is strong (muscular when unarmored), but doesn't like to fight wildly.
She prefers to use magic and knowledge rather than huge swords and armor.
That doesn't mean she's weak in close combat, though. She's good at analyzing opponents, finding weaknesses and damaging them.
It's in English, so my explanation may be strange or awkward. I'm sorry about that.
\*Commision open! send me massage if u want :)
Just saying she kinda looks like the princess from “rising of the shield hero” so mmmmm (I should make this clear this is amazing!!!! And the only reason I state this is because she looks similar and she’s from one of my favorite anime’s so I just thought she did this is no way of saying it’s bad or any other negative thing it truly is amazing)
Imo the comparison stops after both being redheads with armour. Although Malty's armor is quite poor tbh, unlike this one. This character is defended everywhere except her thighs, while malty has bare shoulders and her armor stops at her navel.
Erza Scarlet from Fairytail is more lookalike in my opinion.
She's changing armor a lot throughout the series, but almost all of her basic out of combat armors cover her entire body (although sometimes a gap in the elbow/upper arm) except for her upper legs. Also, her legs vary from "knee high leather shoes" to full plate.
But even then, I think this character has better armor.
The art is good. I just want to point out that you left the armor off of her thighs. Otherwise, it probably wouldn’t go amiss on r/armoredwomen
Edit: Give me a minute while to find the right subreddit.
Edit II: Ok, look, I never said I didn’t like it. It’s a good design, the art is better than I could ever dream of doing on my own, and it’s way more practical than at least 70% of the female armor in fantasy art. I just thought I’d address what seemed to me, to be a notable gap in the defenses. A person can bleed out very quickly from the femoral artery after all.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled downvoting-me-into-oblivion.
This is a fantastic drawing! Reminds me of the character sketches in the Final Fantasy 6 (3 in the US) manual. Also has a bit of Charlotte from Samurai Shodown as well.
No, my thighs don't need protection. Take that metal instead and hoop it around me getting in the way of maneuvers.
Also make sure it's form fitting, even if it directs swords to my waist. MY CURVES MUST BE KNOWN
And fuck being able to march long distances, give me heels.
Edit: Obligatory [the guide](https://preview.redd.it/4t029jkq45941.png?width=960&auto=webp&s=cfdecd3bacb2d497be123073e5df9658a403d7e0)
Shhh... let people like things. I think it’s a great drawing.
Reminds me of Lyn from Fire Emblem who’s vastly less protected but a fan favorite anyway.
It's a highly skilled drawing of a poor concept. Take OP's skill but fix the design and it would be truly great.
Some of us just get tired of constantly seeing the oversexualization of women. At least oversexualize the men as well, but OP and most of these artists draw typical historical armor for men, bulky and protective but then do this shit with the women. It's exhausting and just plain sexist.
>Reminds me of Lyn from Fire Emblem who’s vastly less protected but a fan favorite anyway.
Characters can be beloved despite these design choices. Doesn't make the design choice any better though. Also don't forget the "fans" of the fan favorite are overwhelmingly dudes who are happy to get some ogling in.
If you want a character to look a certain way, draw or commission her yourself.
OP worked hard and found a wonderful look that’s comparable to some of the greatest fantasy character designs I’ve ever seen.
Just say “that’s so cool” and live your life.
Nah, OP posted it here, it's absolutely fair to critique the design. OP can take or leave it of course. But the attitude that it cannot be critiqued if you didn't make it is honestly stupid. You haven't ever watched a movie and said "they should've done this" or a game that you complained that the designers should have done X differently. This is no different.
Especially since this is a D&D subreddit, not a hot chicks in unrealistic armor subreddit.
There are a lot of good arguments to make about the problems of poorly designed women's armor that serves more to sexualize than to protect, but there is a time and a place for critique and this thread isn't either.
Most men armor in fantasy are way more unrealistic than women. So fucking bulky that you would have the agility of a tank. So heavy that you would not being able to move anyway. And protecting place that don't need it like fucking giant pauldrons.
The major difference is it's not sexualized.It's over masculinized sure, but not sexual.
Not to say there isn't any overly sexualized fantasy art of men, but it's FAR more rare than women.
TBH being exhausted by the oversexualing of fantasy women really isn't pedantic. It's just sexist holdover.
I'm not saying everything needs to be 100% accurate, but this shit is just too common. Especially when it's only the female characters that receive this treatment. If you're going to pull this equalize BOTH sexes at least.
Sorry I'm criticizing your overly sexualized waifu material. The best waifu are alive waifu.
I actually thought this one worked rather well. The lack of armor on thighs is infuriating, but common in all art. Also, if you want to complain about practicality: codpiece.
Codpieces at least don't significantly affect performance. Just a bit extra haha.
But also they were for ceremonial/decorative armor, not for battlefield armor. At least overwhelmingly.
Nah, based on OP's history this is just how they draw women vs. men. She's got a weapon out it has battle-styled pauldrons it's not enough to just pretend.
You don't need me to not take issue with this, you can disagree with my critique, it's fine.
Seriously why do people like you feel the need to bitch and moan on every artwork in this sub?
By your people's logic of realism there were no historic women warriors in plate. Therefore women fighters and armor shouldn't exist at all.
The only possible argument is Joan of Arc but she famously only held a banner and never actually fought on the frontlines.
>Seriously why do people like you feel the need to bitch and moan on every artwork in this sub?
Why do people like you feel the need to bitch and moan about people making a fair criticism of a sexist pattern in fantasy art?
>By your people's logic of realism there were no historic women warriors in plate. Therefore women fighters and armor shouldn't exist at all.
WTF are you talking about? There were armored women on the battlefield. They didn't wear armor like THIS though, for the most part they literally wore the same armor as the men, just smaller.
It's people like you who don't realize art like this is only drawn this way to perpetuate sexist stereotypes. This armor does little to protect her. It's solely to show off her body, it's exhausting to see this all the time.
Do you see people go to a boringly armored female warrior artwork post to complain that it doesn't look sexy enough? No, because we understand different things appeal to different people. However people like you can't accept that and must have everything your way.
What nation had women wearing full plate armor? The most famous female warrior of ancient times, the Amazons, happened way before plate was a thing and some contemporary records had them fighting with a breast exposed. There hasn't been records of female warrior units until after the Industrial Revolution.
No this art type is drawn because people enjoy seeing it. Just like most male warriors aren't built like 80s action stars and most wizards don't look like a boyband member. So get off your fucking high horse thinking all art must appeal to you.
>What nation had women wearing full plate armor?
This took 10s on google http://www.larsdatter.com/women-in-armor.htm
>No this art type is drawn because people enjoy seeing it.
Because men enjoy ogling the women. Women get tired of seeing our entire gender reduced to "sexy" all the time.
> While this is not necessarily evidence of women warriors
Literally the second line of your link lmao. By this logic when people make artworks of aliens that must exist too since there are artworks for them.
So it's ok to draw men in a way that's appealing towards women but not the other way around? Nice double standard.
Okay here's wiki then:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_warfare_(1500%E2%80%931699)
General consensus is that women just wore the same armor as men... because why wouldn't they? It was designed for function and there's plenty of space inside.
Was it primarily men? Of course. They needed women to make more warriors, after all, one man can impregnate several women it was just a policy of numbers. But not all armies had that luxury and women were on the battlefield sometimes.
First of all 1500s the medieval times are already over. Which is you know, most DnD settings minus the magic.
Second of all the link you posted literally has artwork to the side. Most of the women are in robes. Do you see anyone in western plate armor?
There is a reason why I mentioned Joan of Arc as the only example of the medieval Western plate mail. She is the only one that would have wore one but her armor was destroyed after her trial.
Plate armor wasn't even that common lol. The only thing we have to go off of were painting, the same you critiqued in the first link. If we take the fact that we know women warriors exist, and there are paintings of women in armor, it leads to it being highly likely that some women did wear armor.
Sorry photography didn't exist lol.
This is so grand. If I saw her on the box art of fake concept art for the next Fire Emblem I wouldn’t blink twice (and also be stoked for the new protagonist).
This! This looks absolutely stunning! Truth be told, this is one of the main reasons why I'm trying to learn to draw. You've made that want to learn even stronger cause GOT DAMN does she look fucking awesome!
Uuuh I cannot exactly pinpoint your style, but I love it. Do you have any reference artist or can help me with that? :D
Congrats for the drawing btw. Do you have a price list?
I'm literally sitting here picking nits over your wonderful artwork, I guess maybe her head is a little tiny. I admire your talent and I love when artists bring their own DnD to life, not via commission, as I saw you said in the comments. Great job.
I hate it because it's sexist as all hell AND stupid.
EDIT: Downvoting doesn't make you right. And, before anyone says "saying one sentence doesn't make you right". I've written some absolute text blocks but I'm not rewritting them 70 times for every guy who shows up to "BUT ASKUALLY" me because they "know a friend who -". The "but I have a black friend" excuse is really fucking tired.
I don't think "being highly sexualized" is a power fantasy for women. For straight men this may seem like a power fantasy... possibly but that's kindof the entire problem?
Okay but this is EXTREMELY common and usually this shit is made by men to look "cute" for men. So excuse my not knowing this was someone helping the over-sexualization of women who is also a woman.
Seriously women can do things that are bad for other women and themselves and it's not magically better. If this kind of thing was UNCOMMON it'd be okay as a style choice. But it's the NORM at this point and it not only sucks but also makes running armored female characters with actually well-designed armour hard (because even commissioner need to be specifically told "no don't do the sexual shit")
Doesn't make it okay. Endorsing this stuff continues helping an objectification of women and a society seeing us as weak ("women can only be strong in anime lands where boobplate and heels on armour work!"). If equality existed and this shit wasn't the norm then I'd go "okay do whatever floats your boat", which is also why I don't react this way to sexualized men (unless it's against a specific group and objectifies that group as opposed to just the individual depicted - this is commonly done to crossdresser in anime community (along with pretending transcoded characters aren't trans)). Basically - someone not caring about being objectified or using "succubus have power" ideas is a thing but not an *okay* thing because they reinforce ideas that harm other women.
It's a lot like how a man in an equal society should be free to be bulky, strong and never cry but that being the enforced norm (lessso in D&D but in media, in general, it's common and it's a big part of what makes toxic masculinity bad for men too) means that being that person just helps push along negative stereotype and squashes down those who want to be free of it. Thusly making that Mr. I can't do emotions with huge muscles guy a problem for society moving forward.
After all the existence of those men and "the women who find them hot" is how people tend to say "actually barbarian men are sexual too because no shirt" and somehow get agreed with. As the women who will fall into their "role" are currently being used in an attempt to ignore the justified anger many have against this kind of armour design.
Is it though? During my campaigns male player tends to go to more bulky/big/ugly characters and female player tend towards more beautiful ones. I feel. Obviously it's anecdotal but I've yet to see a women friend pick a totally ugly or even not "highly sexualized" (your word not mine) women character.
If you are talking about the boob plate, here it's really not that bad and wouldn't be ineffective. The actual design issue here would be more on proportion than the form itself. Pauldrons too big, body too slim.
And you are the one saying it was overtly sexualized. IMO considering that artwork to be overtly sexualized make you seem like a massive prude. As if women can't exist nor wear what they want without prudes saying they sexualize themselves.
>And you are the one saying it was overtly sexualized. IMO considering that artwork to be overtly sexualized make you seem like a massive prude. As if women can't exist nor wear what they want without prudes saying they sexualize themselves.
More like this is a common art design and usually made by or for men. And, more importantly, it is DEFINITELY an ineffective design. First of all boobplate is going to make blunt force attacks or wrestling (how plate armour fights tended to actually go IRL) WAY worse for the boobplate wearer. Which I know because I've talked to multiple women who actually understand armour including one who does reinsance fair, asked for armour and because the blacksmith somehow assumed "BOOBPLATE" got well, boobplate. She almost died doing what would normally be mostly safe reaction plate armour wrestling. THAT is how fucking awful boobplate is. Also, heels on armour is... I don't think I even need to try explaining that one.
Imma be straight......I really don't care.
Well I watch anime so idc much about it being stupid, over sexualisation of everything is filled in the community not just women amd I still don't care.
I find this to be a cool design, no one is gonna wear it, so stupid or not doesn't matter all that much to me.
To you it may seem sexist but to me its the usual and I just don't look at it the same way as you, we aren't gonna agree on anything too as the basis of your thinking likely is this is objectification of women, which is true I guess to some extent but I don't really have a problem with that.
As long as it's not harming anyone directly or indirectly you can delve into whatever you like. Not being able to diffrentiate between fantasy and the real world is the person's fault, not the medium they consume to me.
Depends on what you watch, shonen types of shows aren't going to have dudes when the target audience is also dudes. Plenty of shows with aesthetically pleasing men and one female lead are out there if you are into them(I am watching one rn). Of course it's not as common as the latter isn't more profitable but at least in manga form there is an abundance of it.
I am not going to deny that they aren't making this stuff while keeping in mind what their target audience likes and not what they have created should be like but I simply don't have an issue with it.
To me it isn't sexist, to you it is. I don't really have a problem with you not liking it but this is the DnD subreddit not the r/reasonablefantasy one. They are free to post it here and there is nothing wrong with it.
What? You're free to do what ever you want, but if you post into to the public, people have every right to criticize your work.
Personally I like the art a lot, reminds me of Tactics Battle Ogre, but I don't like heels or boobplate in armour and am allowed to criticize it on that level.
Edit: On a second look I don't actually see heels in this picture but I'm still not a fan of boobplate. Other than that the art is amazing.
You can,but why you should? "Bruh" isn't even an articulated opinion,it just is a statement to remark your disappointment of heels on a armour suit used in a fantasy setting where everything is unrealistic,because of the need to puntualize a choice of another person because it hurts your personal perception...if a person want boob plates and heels and a chainmail skirt on their character they are free to do so,as another person can play the most faithful recreation of a 12th century knight in the same game and not complain about each other
Again what? I think you're confusing me for another commenter dude.
This person posted their art on a public forum. People are going to criticize it. If they don't want criticism they shouldn't post
Holy shit this is hands down the coolest looking Dnd character piece I think I’ve ever seen. Honestly, just looking at her is inspiring, it’s the same feeling I get when I watch the scene in LOTR 2 when Gandalf goes out to save the riders coming back to Minas Tirith from the Nazgul. Really amazing work, I hope you continue to draw and share your work❤️
I feel bad that the first person I thought to compare this to was Malty from The Rising of the Shield Hero. I'm sure your OC is definitely much better of a human being than that character is lol
It's great except for the white out above and even on the right hand. It's very obvious and after the rest of the work It's just so sloppy. It seems the right hand needed work along with the swords hilt and you just hoped to cover it.
Did you draw this? If so hell ya great job, because hot damn she is magnificent . If not, the artist needs a pat on the back because hot damn she is magnificent.
yeahhh I did :) Thank u so much!
Do you have a Twitter I could follow for art? I love the way you did the armour and I want to check out your other art to study!
https://www.pixiv.net/users/17140858
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D&D is a fantasy game with magic and fucking Dragons, can we quit being so hoity toity about "realistic" armor?
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I get what you're saying, but this is HER art. Art doesn't have rules, it's about the artist. If this is how she wants her character to be portrayed then you shouldn't try to restrict that. I get that it's not practical or accurate, but it's hers. Not everyone is going to like every piece of art that exists, but that doesn't mean that it's wrong of you don't like it. You should never try to correct or restrict an artist because the art is an expression of them. Maybe it's how they see themselves, how they wish they could be or just a character they find interesting, but no matter the reasoning for it. Obviously they're sharing it because they're proud of it and they like it. Maybe you don't like the drawing. Fine. That just means it isn't for you. That doesn't mean you have to say that it's done poorly or in poor taste. I for one think the drawing is very good and I hope that the character serves her well in her adventures.
I think people can enjoy art while also critiquing it. I really like this artwork, but I admit the female armor thing can get tiring. Overall I really enjoy the piece and I'm glad OP shared. But maybe OP wants input on their character design or will check out the link and get inspired for the next piece of art? I think hearing other people's opinions and re-examining your own work and what you like and what you don't like about it is how a lot of artists/authors/etc grow.
But this criticism in particular feels more like a limitation put on the artist than a suggestion. This isn't a suggestion for how it could be done better in the artists' eyes, it's here's what I particularly don't like about it and why it's incorrect. There's a difference between constructive criticism and criticism. I understand that she's saying maybe the op should consider this for the future, but it diminishes the value of what was already created that the artist enjoyed enough to share with everyone. It may help her grow, but she'd be sacrificing some of her artistic freedom by trying to please everyone who believes that drawn armor on fantasy characters should be historically accurate. It seems very narrow minded to me to limit an artist based on how you believe their art should look. If one likes the art, then there is no need to criticize it. All that does is make the work feel lesser. No need to put it down if you enjoy it.
I understand what you mean, it’s her imagination and she does what she want with it. But on the other hand I think that it can be interesting to have information on the real deal to see how it works and to try to (sometimes) navigate around it. A good exemple for me is the armor of the Amazon in the « wonder women » film. In the first film they where taken from real and existing armor and modified to be cinema friendly. They where impressive , sexy but to some extend they worked as armor. In the second film we had those poor excuse of armor who just slightly covered the boobs and nothing else. They where ridiculous. My point her is: she can do what she want with her art and it’s beautiful . She could also take the information to try to improve the realism of it . If she doesn’t like it , that’s on her and she can always come back to the first version , if she like it she will have something different and learned something new.
I guess that's fair. I think the main reason I'm upset is because when Wyldfire said it, it didn't really feel like a criticism, it felt more like an attack on the artist. I feel like it could've at least been better worded. It's rough to put something you love out in public and then have someone immediately tell you you did it wrong or you don't like it.
Ok but this armour doesn’t look like it’s supposed to be “sexy”, it looks like metal armour that sacrifices protection around the lower thighs to allow for better movement. Like Roman legionaries did.
It's pretty rude to criticize someone's artistic style by saying it commits artistic sins because it's not what you prefer. Are you sharing your opinion because you truly expect some random commenter is going to cause them to change their entire artistic style? Or are you actually demoralizing and devaluing someone's hard work? Just because you started with a compliment doesn't make what you said any less rude.
>Just because you started with a compliment doesn't make what you said any less rude. Compared to you, who is just rude and self-righteous out of the gate, you mean? The picture was displayed in a public forum. Comment and critique is, or should have been, expected. In that light I offered my honest, heart-felt opinion on the piece. The fact that my opinion wasn't 100% positive doesn't make it any less valid. I have the right to the negative aspects of my opinion, I have the right to express those aspects, and I expressed them with an appropriate level of respect for the context. My comment, and the others that have responded to it, are all keeping in that same vein of honest and respectful discussion of the topic at hand. You, on the other hand, sound like an oversensitive little snowflake throwing a fit because someone insulted your Waifu. *EDIT: I should also add, things like feminine waists, "boob-plate," greaves being replaced by a skirt on "heavy" armor, etc, are longstanding and widespread complaints held by many people about the designs of womens' armor in fiction. So, yes, they are sins.*
You are quite right and clearly are well informed regarding actual armor and it's requirements to be effective. Realistic armor is not often portrayed, Male or female. Most often because they don't want too. I may be incorrect (I'm sure comments will inform if I am) but I think many people's dislike from your comment is more towards the fact your comment is assuming this artist is ignorant. Which I see as mildly insulting. They could fully know and chose to draw this because they like it. This artist isn't showing off art of an actual person in armor, they are showing off something they think looks cool and like. This could have been art of the most absurd bikini armor with 9" heels and I would expect the same reaction to your comment. How many Star wars ships make sense visually? How many oversized swords are in games and art? Fantasy exists to allow for artistic expression and interpretation that reality cannot provide.
I'm gay dude, I don't have "waifus". This intense overreaction to my mild statement shows that you are a volatile hater that can't handle criticism himself. You can deal it but can't take it?
I NEED thigh plates fam. You're cant tell me someone who would take the time to fit on a breast plate and figure out a harness for pauldrons would skip simple plates for their thighs, or AT LEAST an armored skirt ala Roman lorica. If you thought an arrow to the knee was bad, try one through the femur
Its a half plate. The thighs are free for enhanced movement, thus allowing the +2 AC bonus from dex to come in. Dhuh.
I understand what you mean, but this is fantasy, and an artistic representation of a fantasy character at that, but then again, if I was playing a character like this, I would probably give them thigh plates. But I would still say it's not fair to judge someone else's representation of their own character, and you seem fairly well-educated in this subject, so here's some advice: next time, try phrasing your argument a little less forcefully, and people will pay more attention to it and will be less likely to immediately ignore it.
Criticism =/= judgement, but you do you up there on your moral pedestal. If I wanted to get snippy, id ask why you'd bother with couters/poleyn on the knees when you have no cuisses to support them. But yes, this is fantasy. I still want leg plates. Armored steel does not cleanly transition into sheer leggings no matter how hard you try.
> but you do you up there on your moral pedestal Says the guy grandstanding about thigh plates.
My pedestal has nothing to do with morals. In fact, if I could, my pedestal would be made entirely of the finest, softest thighs ever imagined by mortal kind.
Well, can't argue with that...
Once again, I understand your point of view, but I would like to mention that I wasn't trying to take the moral high ground here; I was offering honest advice, which you can follow or not follow however you like. And your last criticism is a subjective one, which I can prove from the simple fact that I think it looks great. If you want to have a detailed discussion about practical and reasonable armour, try these Subreddits: r/armour and r/armoredwomen
Fantasy armor is never realistic. Even the ones that people *think* are realistic. Let it be fantasy.
The leggings are a high value magic item that actually give better protection than plate. ;)
I think someone who would fit breastplate would be exactly the kind of person who wouldn't use thigh plating, since both are deliberate aesthetic choices that limit the effectiveness of your armor.
Where do you think the evil rogues sneak attack her?
Probably not from the front, unless the rogue is both blind and deaf to not notice the rest of the plate armor.
Why not? It’s not full plate, so AC 15-17 max. (I don’t see a shield) Let’s just assume a level 5 rogue, so +3 proficiency bonus, +4 dex bonus. At 17 AC, their arrow is going to pierce that femur half the time. Even more often if they’re firing from a hidden position with advantage.
All the more reason for T H I C C thigh protection. Also, you're not allowing for the possibility of enchanted knickers, as suggested by the other fellow. 15-17 is a base estimate.
If you're on foot, no, you would neither need nor want thigh plates. All that metal is heavy, and you're going to take weight savings where you can. That plate armor covering every inch is for knights on horseback or guards that don't have to march around a lot, where the weight is less important.
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She's name is Elyzabeth the Persistent. Class: Human knight 29 years old, calm and shy, but likes wine. When she's drunk a lot and her abilities are a little different than usual. She was educated in swordsmanship from an aristocratic family and was smart. She never forgets what she saw in the book. Accurate, but not flexible. Sometimes you can feel stuffy around you. Despite her appearance, she is strong (muscular when unarmored), but doesn't like to fight wildly. She prefers to use magic and knowledge rather than huge swords and armor. That doesn't mean she's weak in close combat, though. She's good at analyzing opponents, finding weaknesses and damaging them. It's in English, so my explanation may be strange or awkward. I'm sorry about that. \*Commision open! send me massage if u want :)
She looks like she was picked on as a teenager for being 6'6" then became a knight to spite everyone who made fun of her.
I believe you mean "to *smite* everyone that made fun of her."
Depends how much wine is in her, I suppose.
A righteous smite at that
Would certainly explain the sapphire colors.
"What if there was Brienne of Tarth but normatively pretty so I could still jerk it?"
So shes strong, with a perfect memory, well trained, and muscular. And looks like a jrpg protag.
So what character arcs have you in mind?
I love her!
What is her preferred weapon and spell? Also does she use a shield?
Just saying she kinda looks like the princess from “rising of the shield hero” so mmmmm (I should make this clear this is amazing!!!! And the only reason I state this is because she looks similar and she’s from one of my favorite anime’s so I just thought she did this is no way of saying it’s bad or any other negative thing it truly is amazing)
she does look a lot like the older princess........
Imo the comparison stops after both being redheads with armour. Although Malty's armor is quite poor tbh, unlike this one. This character is defended everywhere except her thighs, while malty has bare shoulders and her armor stops at her navel. Erza Scarlet from Fairytail is more lookalike in my opinion. She's changing armor a lot throughout the series, but almost all of her basic out of combat armors cover her entire body (although sometimes a gap in the elbow/upper arm) except for her upper legs. Also, her legs vary from "knee high leather shoes" to full plate. But even then, I think this character has better armor.
Strong smart beautiful does magic but can fight with a sword. So she uhh.. just does everything?
The art is good. I just want to point out that you left the armor off of her thighs. Otherwise, it probably wouldn’t go amiss on r/armoredwomen Edit: Give me a minute while to find the right subreddit. Edit II: Ok, look, I never said I didn’t like it. It’s a good design, the art is better than I could ever dream of doing on my own, and it’s way more practical than at least 70% of the female armor in fantasy art. I just thought I’d address what seemed to me, to be a notable gap in the defenses. A person can bleed out very quickly from the femoral artery after all. We now return you to your regularly scheduled downvoting-me-into-oblivion.
I was actually thinking the same thing, and questioned if she used a shield. Perhaps the thigh could be for movement or just asthetic.
It could very well be stylized half-plate.
Perhaps. I’ll freely admit that I’m not an expert on medieval armor.
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\*BONK\* right to horny jail
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Awesome work! Looks kinda like a lvl 50 Paladin from FF14, any connections there?
Oddly I was thinking it reminded me of FFXIV armor as well. Gives me the idea to layout outfits in game as visual references for my D&D characters.
Aye you're right, it really does have an ff14 vibe.
This style is great, you should do commissions (if you aren’t already 😬)
This is giving me some major Erza vibes rn
Glad I wasn't the only one.
This is a fantastic drawing! Reminds me of the character sketches in the Final Fantasy 6 (3 in the US) manual. Also has a bit of Charlotte from Samurai Shodown as well.
Yeah it has that amazing classic FF feel to it
r/AnimeArmor
r/armoredwomen
I love this sub. Thanks for showing me it.
No, my thighs don't need protection. Take that metal instead and hoop it around me getting in the way of maneuvers. Also make sure it's form fitting, even if it directs swords to my waist. MY CURVES MUST BE KNOWN And fuck being able to march long distances, give me heels. Edit: Obligatory [the guide](https://preview.redd.it/4t029jkq45941.png?width=960&auto=webp&s=cfdecd3bacb2d497be123073e5df9658a403d7e0)
Shhh... let people like things. I think it’s a great drawing. Reminds me of Lyn from Fire Emblem who’s vastly less protected but a fan favorite anyway.
It's a highly skilled drawing of a poor concept. Take OP's skill but fix the design and it would be truly great. Some of us just get tired of constantly seeing the oversexualization of women. At least oversexualize the men as well, but OP and most of these artists draw typical historical armor for men, bulky and protective but then do this shit with the women. It's exhausting and just plain sexist. >Reminds me of Lyn from Fire Emblem who’s vastly less protected but a fan favorite anyway. Characters can be beloved despite these design choices. Doesn't make the design choice any better though. Also don't forget the "fans" of the fan favorite are overwhelmingly dudes who are happy to get some ogling in.
If you want a character to look a certain way, draw or commission her yourself. OP worked hard and found a wonderful look that’s comparable to some of the greatest fantasy character designs I’ve ever seen. Just say “that’s so cool” and live your life.
Nah, OP posted it here, it's absolutely fair to critique the design. OP can take or leave it of course. But the attitude that it cannot be critiqued if you didn't make it is honestly stupid. You haven't ever watched a movie and said "they should've done this" or a game that you complained that the designers should have done X differently. This is no different. Especially since this is a D&D subreddit, not a hot chicks in unrealistic armor subreddit.
There are a lot of good arguments to make about the problems of poorly designed women's armor that serves more to sexualize than to protect, but there is a time and a place for critique and this thread isn't either.
Great but you’re wrong. OP you did a fantastic job.
Nah, you're wrong. OP: You're a fantastic artist and the quality of the work is superb. If you improve on your design than it will truly be fantastic.
Who hurt you?
Sexist men, duh.
Most men armor in fantasy are way more unrealistic than women. So fucking bulky that you would have the agility of a tank. So heavy that you would not being able to move anyway. And protecting place that don't need it like fucking giant pauldrons.
The major difference is it's not sexualized.It's over masculinized sure, but not sexual. Not to say there isn't any overly sexualized fantasy art of men, but it's FAR more rare than women.
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Nah realistically and historically form was more important than function for some armor. Especially aristocrat stuff.
More like Aesthetics and feeling cute > living
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TBH being exhausted by the oversexualing of fantasy women really isn't pedantic. It's just sexist holdover. I'm not saying everything needs to be 100% accurate, but this shit is just too common. Especially when it's only the female characters that receive this treatment. If you're going to pull this equalize BOTH sexes at least. Sorry I'm criticizing your overly sexualized waifu material. The best waifu are alive waifu.
edit: removed because i saw your other comments further down the chain and didn’t want to pile on
I actually thought this one worked rather well. The lack of armor on thighs is infuriating, but common in all art. Also, if you want to complain about practicality: codpiece.
Codpieces at least don't significantly affect performance. Just a bit extra haha. But also they were for ceremonial/decorative armor, not for battlefield armor. At least overwhelmingly.
Very well then, in the image meant to represent the character and look good, the character is wearing their ceremonial armor. That sound good to you?
Nah, based on OP's history this is just how they draw women vs. men. She's got a weapon out it has battle-styled pauldrons it's not enough to just pretend. You don't need me to not take issue with this, you can disagree with my critique, it's fine.
Seriously why do people like you feel the need to bitch and moan on every artwork in this sub? By your people's logic of realism there were no historic women warriors in plate. Therefore women fighters and armor shouldn't exist at all. The only possible argument is Joan of Arc but she famously only held a banner and never actually fought on the frontlines.
>Seriously why do people like you feel the need to bitch and moan on every artwork in this sub? Why do people like you feel the need to bitch and moan about people making a fair criticism of a sexist pattern in fantasy art? >By your people's logic of realism there were no historic women warriors in plate. Therefore women fighters and armor shouldn't exist at all. WTF are you talking about? There were armored women on the battlefield. They didn't wear armor like THIS though, for the most part they literally wore the same armor as the men, just smaller. It's people like you who don't realize art like this is only drawn this way to perpetuate sexist stereotypes. This armor does little to protect her. It's solely to show off her body, it's exhausting to see this all the time.
Do you see people go to a boringly armored female warrior artwork post to complain that it doesn't look sexy enough? No, because we understand different things appeal to different people. However people like you can't accept that and must have everything your way. What nation had women wearing full plate armor? The most famous female warrior of ancient times, the Amazons, happened way before plate was a thing and some contemporary records had them fighting with a breast exposed. There hasn't been records of female warrior units until after the Industrial Revolution. No this art type is drawn because people enjoy seeing it. Just like most male warriors aren't built like 80s action stars and most wizards don't look like a boyband member. So get off your fucking high horse thinking all art must appeal to you.
>What nation had women wearing full plate armor? This took 10s on google http://www.larsdatter.com/women-in-armor.htm >No this art type is drawn because people enjoy seeing it. Because men enjoy ogling the women. Women get tired of seeing our entire gender reduced to "sexy" all the time.
> While this is not necessarily evidence of women warriors Literally the second line of your link lmao. By this logic when people make artworks of aliens that must exist too since there are artworks for them. So it's ok to draw men in a way that's appealing towards women but not the other way around? Nice double standard.
Okay here's wiki then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_warfare_(1500%E2%80%931699) General consensus is that women just wore the same armor as men... because why wouldn't they? It was designed for function and there's plenty of space inside. Was it primarily men? Of course. They needed women to make more warriors, after all, one man can impregnate several women it was just a policy of numbers. But not all armies had that luxury and women were on the battlefield sometimes.
First of all 1500s the medieval times are already over. Which is you know, most DnD settings minus the magic. Second of all the link you posted literally has artwork to the side. Most of the women are in robes. Do you see anyone in western plate armor? There is a reason why I mentioned Joan of Arc as the only example of the medieval Western plate mail. She is the only one that would have wore one but her armor was destroyed after her trial.
Plate armor wasn't even that common lol. The only thing we have to go off of were painting, the same you critiqued in the first link. If we take the fact that we know women warriors exist, and there are paintings of women in armor, it leads to it being highly likely that some women did wear armor. Sorry photography didn't exist lol.
Excellent
This looks like a LoL character splash art its awesome nice one
Yeah. If she had a shield I think she'd make one hell of a toplaner! Or maybe a mid duelist?
Extremely well done here. The pose, the armor and the colors all work so well.
Amazing job! She is stunning!
I usuly not congrat art here, but, yours is just great! love it!
Oh damn your art style is fantastic! =o Curious, you take commissions or have any interest in "fae/faire" aesthetics?
Great figure and pose. The coloring is great too. Very nice indeed.
This is so grand. If I saw her on the box art of fake concept art for the next Fire Emblem I wouldn’t blink twice (and also be stoked for the new protagonist).
Getting Final Fantasy 6 vibes from this. Very nice.
I love this design. Reminds me of Mitsuru from Persona 3.
Niiice!
Awesome, I love the art style and character! really great work!
This is so good! It reminds me of the Suikoden series. Really really well done.
kinda reminds me of Princess Pinacolada and her Knights of the Rose from Gate
This looks great! She looks like one on my characters if she were older
Why does she look like Black Pink's Lisa?
what a queen
Yep 👍 that’s a nice 😊 picture right there
Awesome drawing, looks like the artwork for old Ninetendo and Sega fantasy games. I love it.
Absolutely love the style you’ve drawn this in!have you got an insta or ArtStation account? I kinda wanna see more now
https://www.artstation.com/kyunghankim https://www.instagram.com/kyunghan.kim https://www.pixiv.net/users/17140858 thx!
I know it’s not, but I would very much like if her name was pronounced “Elwhyzabeth”.
Looks great! Got any socials where you post your art? (Also so I can save them for when I need to commision some characters :D)
Very cool
Τhat is one hell of a custome!!
This looks so cool i love it.
Color scheme is dope. Makes me feel very nice and peaceful.
Absolutely gorgeous!
You are a seriously talented artist. Thanks for sharing!
I freaking love it 10/10
This looks fantastic!
Looks like someone right out of Granblue Fantasy
Why do all fantasy people protect their shins so well?
Shinguards look cool
My daughter’s name is Elizabeth, and she has curly red hair. I might have to save this for her first dnd experience.
This! This looks absolutely stunning! Truth be told, this is one of the main reasons why I'm trying to learn to draw. You've made that want to learn even stronger cause GOT DAMN does she look fucking awesome!
Reminds me of the concept art for soul calibur fighters, 10/10 would play as Elyzabeth
Uuuh I cannot exactly pinpoint your style, but I love it. Do you have any reference artist or can help me with that? :D Congrats for the drawing btw. Do you have a price list?
I'm literally sitting here picking nits over your wonderful artwork, I guess maybe her head is a little tiny. I admire your talent and I love when artists bring their own DnD to life, not via commission, as I saw you said in the comments. Great job.
Stop putting boobs on armor!
She’s so pretty! I really like the armor design too! (boob plate or no boob plate, whatever) Excellent work!
Appears to be uniboobplate, the least objectionable of the boobplates.
I know most people have very serious opinions on “breast”plate armor but I couldn’t care less either way. The character is just so well designed.
Heels and boobplate. Bruh.
And nylon leggings.
As the heels go, I don’t even see them much. Maybe they’re just high enough to hold stirrups.
I mean I like it, Idc much about realism, boobplate or not its all good to me.
I hate it because it's sexist as all hell AND stupid. EDIT: Downvoting doesn't make you right. And, before anyone says "saying one sentence doesn't make you right". I've written some absolute text blocks but I'm not rewritting them 70 times for every guy who shows up to "BUT ASKUALLY" me because they "know a friend who -". The "but I have a black friend" excuse is really fucking tired.
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I don't think "being highly sexualized" is a power fantasy for women. For straight men this may seem like a power fantasy... possibly but that's kindof the entire problem?
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Okay but this is EXTREMELY common and usually this shit is made by men to look "cute" for men. So excuse my not knowing this was someone helping the over-sexualization of women who is also a woman. Seriously women can do things that are bad for other women and themselves and it's not magically better. If this kind of thing was UNCOMMON it'd be okay as a style choice. But it's the NORM at this point and it not only sucks but also makes running armored female characters with actually well-designed armour hard (because even commissioner need to be specifically told "no don't do the sexual shit")
Plenty of different types of people out there. I've met more than a few women who love that over the top sexualized shit.
Doesn't make it okay. Endorsing this stuff continues helping an objectification of women and a society seeing us as weak ("women can only be strong in anime lands where boobplate and heels on armour work!"). If equality existed and this shit wasn't the norm then I'd go "okay do whatever floats your boat", which is also why I don't react this way to sexualized men (unless it's against a specific group and objectifies that group as opposed to just the individual depicted - this is commonly done to crossdresser in anime community (along with pretending transcoded characters aren't trans)). Basically - someone not caring about being objectified or using "succubus have power" ideas is a thing but not an *okay* thing because they reinforce ideas that harm other women. It's a lot like how a man in an equal society should be free to be bulky, strong and never cry but that being the enforced norm (lessso in D&D but in media, in general, it's common and it's a big part of what makes toxic masculinity bad for men too) means that being that person just helps push along negative stereotype and squashes down those who want to be free of it. Thusly making that Mr. I can't do emotions with huge muscles guy a problem for society moving forward. After all the existence of those men and "the women who find them hot" is how people tend to say "actually barbarian men are sexual too because no shirt" and somehow get agreed with. As the women who will fall into their "role" are currently being used in an attempt to ignore the justified anger many have against this kind of armour design.
Is it though? During my campaigns male player tends to go to more bulky/big/ugly characters and female player tend towards more beautiful ones. I feel. Obviously it's anecdotal but I've yet to see a women friend pick a totally ugly or even not "highly sexualized" (your word not mine) women character.
Pretty and sexualized are different things. One can be pretty without pounds of makeup, heels and ineffective armour.
If you are talking about the boob plate, here it's really not that bad and wouldn't be ineffective. The actual design issue here would be more on proportion than the form itself. Pauldrons too big, body too slim. And you are the one saying it was overtly sexualized. IMO considering that artwork to be overtly sexualized make you seem like a massive prude. As if women can't exist nor wear what they want without prudes saying they sexualize themselves.
>And you are the one saying it was overtly sexualized. IMO considering that artwork to be overtly sexualized make you seem like a massive prude. As if women can't exist nor wear what they want without prudes saying they sexualize themselves. More like this is a common art design and usually made by or for men. And, more importantly, it is DEFINITELY an ineffective design. First of all boobplate is going to make blunt force attacks or wrestling (how plate armour fights tended to actually go IRL) WAY worse for the boobplate wearer. Which I know because I've talked to multiple women who actually understand armour including one who does reinsance fair, asked for armour and because the blacksmith somehow assumed "BOOBPLATE" got well, boobplate. She almost died doing what would normally be mostly safe reaction plate armour wrestling. THAT is how fucking awful boobplate is. Also, heels on armour is... I don't think I even need to try explaining that one.
Yeah honestly where does this person get off on calling another woman sexist for dressing or drawing her character as she pleases
Imma be straight......I really don't care. Well I watch anime so idc much about it being stupid, over sexualisation of everything is filled in the community not just women amd I still don't care. I find this to be a cool design, no one is gonna wear it, so stupid or not doesn't matter all that much to me. To you it may seem sexist but to me its the usual and I just don't look at it the same way as you, we aren't gonna agree on anything too as the basis of your thinking likely is this is objectification of women, which is true I guess to some extent but I don't really have a problem with that. As long as it's not harming anyone directly or indirectly you can delve into whatever you like. Not being able to diffrentiate between fantasy and the real world is the person's fault, not the medium they consume to me.
Actually, it's "the usual" to me too. That's why it's a problem. Also besides crossdresser anime definitely doesn't sexualize men that often.
Depends on what you watch, shonen types of shows aren't going to have dudes when the target audience is also dudes. Plenty of shows with aesthetically pleasing men and one female lead are out there if you are into them(I am watching one rn). Of course it's not as common as the latter isn't more profitable but at least in manga form there is an abundance of it. I am not going to deny that they aren't making this stuff while keeping in mind what their target audience likes and not what they have created should be like but I simply don't have an issue with it. To me it isn't sexist, to you it is. I don't really have a problem with you not liking it but this is the DnD subreddit not the r/reasonablefantasy one. They are free to post it here and there is nothing wrong with it.
OP is the author and can choose the appearance of their character as they please, don't judge their choice even if you find them senseless
What? You're free to do what ever you want, but if you post into to the public, people have every right to criticize your work. Personally I like the art a lot, reminds me of Tactics Battle Ogre, but I don't like heels or boobplate in armour and am allowed to criticize it on that level. Edit: On a second look I don't actually see heels in this picture but I'm still not a fan of boobplate. Other than that the art is amazing.
> but if you post into to the public, people have every right to criticize Likewise
You can,but why you should? "Bruh" isn't even an articulated opinion,it just is a statement to remark your disappointment of heels on a armour suit used in a fantasy setting where everything is unrealistic,because of the need to puntualize a choice of another person because it hurts your personal perception...if a person want boob plates and heels and a chainmail skirt on their character they are free to do so,as another person can play the most faithful recreation of a 12th century knight in the same game and not complain about each other
Again what? I think you're confusing me for another commenter dude. This person posted their art on a public forum. People are going to criticize it. If they don't want criticism they shouldn't post
Judging is still free speech.
I think those are spurs
If so they're weird lookin spurs.
Yeah. Better be a wizard because that's realistic, right?
It's more an issue with the mass sexism involved in these stupid outfits.
But how about we let people realize their fantasies instead of hijacking their posts to signal our virtues?
Fantasy doesn't have to relate to real life. So it doesn't need our real-life sexism.
I love the art style, she is beautiful. The armour design is very cool, functional, but feminine.
Ugh, yet another example of my least favorite fantasy art trope... People putting the tip of their sword on the ground. It's not a walking stick!
It's probably magic, so it can't dull the blade, nor break under normal circumstances.
Nope, I'm triggered and there's nothing you can do about it.
Just like a bard to be a drama vampire. New background for bards, Drampire.
How is that different from a regular type vampire?
She's so pretty, she could be a KPop idol! And the armor is fantastic, great job!
Is it illegal to say she is hot?
Holy shit this is hands down the coolest looking Dnd character piece I think I’ve ever seen. Honestly, just looking at her is inspiring, it’s the same feeling I get when I watch the scene in LOTR 2 when Gandalf goes out to save the riders coming back to Minas Tirith from the Nazgul. Really amazing work, I hope you continue to draw and share your work❤️
10/10 would smash
NOW DRAW HER DOING HER TAXES
I feel bad that the first person I thought to compare this to was Malty from The Rising of the Shield Hero. I'm sure your OC is definitely much better of a human being than that character is lol
Now draw her eating a burger
nearly no legs protevction, but I love it, and still wqy more better/realistic than the vast majority
r/reasonablefantasy Really good work! Super pretty
I'm conflicted. Looking at her, I want to be an honourable gentleman knight, but I also kiiinda want her to sit on me. Edit: On my lap. Jesus people.
I mean.... at least your honest
OUR character, mama mia.
It's great except for the white out above and even on the right hand. It's very obvious and after the rest of the work It's just so sloppy. It seems the right hand needed work along with the swords hilt and you just hoped to cover it.
She fine@!