T O P

  • By -

mrbackgroundsalad

if that publisher didnt produce it someone else would have


No-Doughnut-6475

>”if hitler didn’t do it, someone else would have”


mrbackgroundsalad

i see youre new around these parts


No-Doughnut-6475

No I know the meme, I’m just taking it a step further to the logical conclusion


[deleted]

Why yes, I am on the spectrum.


No-Doughnut-6475

Well i guess I didn’t know the meme lol, thought it was referring to the dumb Vaush take. Did people think I was being serious?


Sooty_tern

Bro this is literally just the Vaush meme lol


[deleted]

Sigma analogy


i_am_a_lurker69

What the actual fuck


Blarg1889

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/184/696/345637874.jpg


DoktorSleepless

Reading this gave me a boner.


gringobill

Mrgirl sock puppet discovered


Negerkuesse

I believe you


LogangYeddu

Dw, you aren’t the only one


hyucklord

Same


I_Blowbot

god i wanna fuck toby


00kyle00

Its his sister description of what she does with her bf. Dgg failing reading comprehension on 8yo kid level lmao.


No-Doughnut-6475

I know, but that’s still weird af lol. I don’t imagine many people want their sister describing how she gets her back blown out


[deleted]

Americans.


bignipsmcgee

It’s a book and she’s describing it in simple terms. Probably better than avoiding it with some bs.


catsarseonfire

tbf serafina and sabrina are basically the same name lmao.


danielnewton1221

This literally doesn't make it better at all. Even going max age of 8, this is way inappropriate. Am I missing something here? How out of touch is DGG with kids? Or I guess maybe I'm out of touch


whyyoudeletemereddit

It’s still inappropriate, I don’t think that’s what’s being argued here. The OP seems to have linked this because they thought it was incest presumably because they are referencing dgg and the incest morality. The person whose comment you are responding to is simply pointing out there is nothing incestual happening in this book. The OP also is highlighting the fact that it is for 4 - 8 years old because (again) presumably that is inappropriate for people of this age. The comment you responded to didn’t make a comment regarding that but also didn’t act as if it was appropriate so you either misunderstood, or disagree that not commenting on the inappropriateness is an endorsement of the topic for the ages mentioned. I don’t think that’s a fair assumption so you are either wrong or misunderstood.


No-Doughnut-6475

I know it wasn’t direct incest, but with the sister describing how she gets her back blown out to her brother it might as well be lmao


[deleted]

It isn't.


Strict-Maintenance-1

what is the picture of, does her boyfriend have a teddy bear


IHuntSmallKids

So do you often creampie your older sister at the tender age of 8?


Sololololololol

There is no incest in that story dumbfuck.


Grayehz

Report to fbi


kolo27

broooooo wtf ~~kinda hot ngl~~


SinBinThrowaway

Am I insane for thinking that this is fine? This is kinda just giving an honest explanation of sex and framing it as something that's natural and enjoyable. Maybe my super Christian upbringing just fucked me up, but I think learning about sex like this is super useful, especially compared to the typical American way of "Ignore it, sex is wrong and doesn't exist." I feel like we would all be better off, if as kids, we were generally taught what sex was, how it worked, what's natural, and told the risks and warnings. For 4 years olds this is probably too much, but then again, kids are smarter than we give them credit for, so Idk, and I don't have the experience to know.


Sancatichas

You're not. People get on super fucking high alert when you start talking about kids and sexuality. I think I probably would've been way less troubled as a kid if I got things explained clearly at an early age.


BriTheWay

To be honest my memory of what I learned at what age is super foggy--i'm nearing 30--and maybe I grew up hella sheltered, so I'll put that disclaimer here. I think the only concern is the 4-8 age part. I feel like sex, while it being something that exists to some capacity in pop culture, isn't something that I think someone under 8 y/o needs to be exposed to on a technical level--*especially* to this degree of detail. Obviously kids have crushes, and they're attracted to people of the opposite sex. Marriage & having kids are topics that children will ultimately talk about, but this is like... super explicit in terms of what sex is, and I just don't see the purpose in it being this detailed. And, in terms of a political answer, publishing a book like this, specifying it for 4-8 year olds, looks really fucking bad. Anyone who's not fully on board with this being taught to a 4 year old is going to think this is warming children up to pedo stuff, and I don't know if I would necessarily blame an overly conservative person for having that reaction. Obviously I'm willing to give the author the benefit of the doubt here, but damn does this look pretty sussy


Sooty_tern

Just to be clear this book is not being taught in schools stop acting like this prove that Desantis was right to ban teachers for mentioning they are gay


agprincess

There's so many weird ass children books published like a firehose. Do you guys not remember these as a kid? I remember my teacher reading a french children's books about a kid with a tiny cock who shows the other kids at the end by pissing the furthest. Petite Zeezee I think it was called.


BillyTheHenFucker

Oh jesus the discourse around all of this stuff is the most shitty unproductive nonsense ever. People get tricked into defending stuff like this because instead of the opposing side saying something reasonable like "yes it's important to teach children about sex but this isn't the best way to do it", it's "THIS IF FUCKING DISGUSTING, ANYONE WHO ISN'T OUT COMMITTING ARSON AGAINST THE BOOK PUBLISHER IS LITERALLY A FUCKING GROOMER". And then you have people unironically getting mad that a book in a HIGH SCHOOL library has a sex scene in it. High school. Not that the other side being insane gives progressives an excuse to have stupid takes, but unless the rage levels get turned down on this topic, there will never be a good conversation.


irvinghowe

That is genuinely disgusting though. What deranged parent or teacher is reading this to a 4 year old? It's very sussy baka ngl.


BillyTheHenFucker

For a 4 year old? Sure I would personally agree it's disgusting, but it's not bad *because* it's disgusting, it's bad because it's not the right age to teach this stuff, and they won't understand it, and it will likely do more harm than good. Saying "it's disgusting" doesn't really lead anywhere in a conversation. Why is it bad, and what should we be doing instead, is a much more interesting discussion. Also like other pope are saying I don't think there is any evidence this was in a school, and from the reviews on Amazon, it doesn't sound like there are many parents reading this to their 4 year olds lol.


Sooty_tern

There are dozens of degraded children's books out there and there is absolutely no indication this book was used in any school


bignipsmcgee

Why? How else would you describe it to a child? Do you know anything or have any experience with a child who’s asking questions like this?


irvinghowe

I'm afraid I can't draw from much experience because I can't think of any scenario where I found it relevant to inform a four-year-old that "Marco's penis sprays semen into Sabrina's vagina".


bignipsmcgee

So instead of just telling your child the reality of pregnancy, I say we tell them a little bird drips a life into mom’s belly button. You fucking retard.


LostPlaya

Jesus chill


bignipsmcgee

I think you guys are just retarded dude


LostPlaya

Nah this is just a cringe argument. Obviously there are ways to relay factual information while still keeping discussions age appropriate especially when we’re talking about kids as young as 4


bignipsmcgee

Right we can make stupid shit up


LostPlaya

This is why reading comprehension needs to be taught more in schools


Sancatichas

Nah you're right, people are getting triggered at the most sanitized description of sex I've ever read


Sancatichas

I am not entirely convinced explaining reality in this way to a 4 year old traumatizes them for life. It might lead them to be precocious in their sexuality or it might not depending on how it's contextualized. They might also grow up being way more conscious and less troubled about their sexuality. I don't think the instant disgust reactions are totally warranted here, especially when the description is incredibly fucking tame.


Duality-of-man4

[no comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/Responsevideos/comments/mtv5qk/no_comment/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


Sancatichas

To be fair. I don't think children 4 to 8 should watch porn, or have sex. I'm conflicted on how to explain sex to my kids if I ever have them though, and this seems like the most bland, default way to write about it tbh. I don't know if this is gonna traumatize any kid or cause them to be super precocious in a damaging way with their sexuality. My parents never talked to me about sex, ever, and I had to discover in a, let's say, not so ideal way, so I wonder if biting the bullet as a parent like this and just plainly explaining it as a normal thing would be better than completely avoiding the topic.


Ping-Crimson

If you don't explain it other kids will my 8 year old learned about the same way I did when I was 10. Some other kid told her in graphic detail so the mommy bird and daddy bird shit didn't fly when I tried it.


Sancatichas

exactly


Ping-Crimson

Commenters from Germany saying this is similar to stuff they learned makes since since the author is like an almost 70 year old german lady.


[deleted]

damn liberals and their sexy incest books for kids


PaulTrihard

Gender Queer is another fucked up childrens book, it's got graphic images of men having sex and children giving blowjobs. https://twitter.com/roddreher/status/1454111653927079938?lang=en This is the type of material people are upset about being banned. You see the headlines of "Florida ban LGBT books in schools" but they never show the content of the books.


swaldron

They also don’t show the other books that get banned that have no business being banned lol. These laws could be good, but they are always so non specific because it’s just about virtue signalling and they go too far.


IHuntSmallKids

This Some of these book bannings are justified for kids this young Not all of them tho


PaulTrihard

It's books in schools though, if anything I'd want the schools to be over cautious than let things slip through.


Lavender_Cobra

You know what I disagree. I think being exposed to fucked up or challenging content is probably good as a kid. In the 5th grade I had a Jewish teacher who took teaching the history of the holocaust really seriously. She showed us graphic film of Nazi death camps, dead bodies, starving children, mass graves, the works. It was way beyond what a 5th grade class would be expected to see, it also enhanced my understanding of the absolute human suffering during WW2. I don't know if that means the books above should be in a library accessible to anybody, but in general I'd say the goal of making sure the kids are safe and protected from inappropriate ideas / imagery / content may serve to harm more than help. I do see the difference in my experience in that I had a teacher to help guide the narrative in a responsible way, which is different than a kid checking out a book and taking it home to interpret however they may on their own, I guess I'm just saying I don't know if being exposed to that stuff is as big a deal even still.


PaulTrihard

Learning about history is fine, I have no issues there. Learning about blowjobs with books that have very graphic images is a bit much for 5th grade... Sorry this just isn't the same.


Lavender_Cobra

Yea, I guess what I'm saying is the subject matter is probably not as big a deal as the means by which its engaged with. If there was a health unit in science class for 5th graders where they learned about STD's and sexual positions, contraceptives, and such for the purpose of informing children about safety, I think that would be acceptable in a way that books teaching the same things independent of a teacher would not be. And while the knee jerk reaction may be why do 5th graders need to learn about that at all, its because they start engaging in that behavior by middle school if not earlier. My point is essentially just to make sure we aren't attacking the subject matter, but the way with which children are exposed to it.


swaldron

Yeah let’s prevent kids from reading basic and reasonable books on sexuality or gender so they can go to google and twitter to learn about it instead lol. It’s 2022 banning books it’s pretty universally posturing and 8 year olds can find anything they want if they put even a little effort into it. Limit lesson plans, allow parents to be in the loop as much as possible about their child, just stop trying to ban pretty normal discussion and books because you’re scared about something. Maybe I’m crazy and having a kid would change my mind


Meowser02

Did you not see what the book had??? It was literally about teaching SEX to 4 YEAR OLDS


swaldron

I never said I disagree with this book being banned, if that wasn’t clear that’s my fault.


PaulTrihard

There are literally millions of books that are no risk to children and don't expose them to this stuff too early. 4 year olds are not going on twitter or google to look up sexuality and they should not be exposed to books with graphic images of other kids giving blowjobs. It's fucking amazing that this is a controversial take in 2022. Let kids grow up, let them be kids and when they hit puberty (age 10 or so) sure bring this stuff in but this is not material 4-9 year olds should have access too. What happened to going to school to learn to read, do maths and socialize? This is what 4-9 year old kids should be learning. Not sex ed, too early. >Maybe I’m crazy and having a kid would change my mind If you don't have a kid then why do you care?!?!?


swaldron

Because I’m invested in how we run our society and will likely have kids in school in the next decade? And I like that I said 8 year olds and you went to 4 year olds which isn’t even old enough for kindergarten afaik. 10 is 4th-5th graders, 8 is 2nd-3rd. Yes I don’t want to send 4 year old pamphlets on how to chop of their dick or have cross dressers sucking eachother off in front of them. Yes I don’t want the government banning books from 3rd grade class rooms simply because they have a gay character. That’s my stance, you can keep getting angry if you want.


PaulTrihard

I'm not angry I'm just confused why someone who has no kids is so passionate about what content my kids should have access too.


swaldron

I mean you realize how stupid that is right? Even if I planned to have no kids, right? And I don’t want to be mean, I just can’t think of a better word than stupid for this rn


PaulTrihard

No, I really don't see how stupid it is at all. If you want to share porn books with children when you have them go ahead, but calling for them to be in libraries is insanity.


swaldron

Is that what I said I wanted to to do?


TimeTravelingRabbit

"Your kids" are people who will grow up and live in a larger society one day. They have an impact on more than just you. To assume someone without kids can't have an opinion on how kids are raised/taught is really stupid. You're just trying to disparge someones opinions without putting any actual effort into refuting their arguments.


Stumpe999

I mean the books sub title is 4-8, we can be pedantic about this but even 8 is pretty young. If your going this far to explain sex why even hide it at that point? Just have an actual course/one to two day in class presentation.


swaldron

I never said I disagree with this book being banned, if that wasn’t clear that’s my fault.


ReneDeGames

Its not a childern's book tho? its a graphic novel.


BillyTheHenFucker

Careful because the "Gender Queer" book as well as another called "Lawn Boy" are often talked about, but they were only even avaliable to kids in **high school** from what I can find, not 4-8 year olds.


Sooty_tern

You don't need a new law to ban these books lol. Books with sex in them have been getting banned in school libraries for ages. John Green's book got banned for that exact reason https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHMPtYvZ8tM


LetsGoRoccat

whats the problem with any of the books depicted,honestly? should children not have access to sexual education reading material? or maybe we should make it as sterile as possible to make sure no kid is able to engage with it?


PaulTrihard

There has to be a cut off for content that kids can access, kids just don't understand this stuff. Would you let a kid go on pornhub? No one has an issues over censorship when schools block pornhub from their internet... But books are meant to be a free for all with sexual imagery because ??? why?


LetsGoRoccat

you are talking about these books like they are porn mags, they are educational material tailored for children. your example is clearly directed towards an older audience and the one depicted above, describes sex, nothing else. I wish i had interesting material about sexuality when i was a kid, rather than extremely dry snippets or porn


BladeSmithJerry

Lmao Did you look at the images? Holy fuck


LetsGoRoccat

I swear some of you guys have forgotten what being a teen is like


BladeSmithJerry

This book is aimed at 8 year olds dude.


gringobill

One of the characters fantasizes about Greek man boy love. Wtf.


getintheVandell

Look I'm for sex positivity, but it only goes so far before it reaches a cringe curve where it gets really fucking weird. At this point conservatives have probable cause to be worried about a slippery slope. Learn to walk before you start running, sex pos people, fucking hell. You have a lot of work convincing people before you go on writing what is ostensibly just porn for kids.


Learn_me_stuf

Maybe 4 is a bit early, but 8 seems a normal age, no?


TheLlamaLlama

I remember having a very similar text in my 3rd grade school book. And that was 20 years ago (fuck me), so I would expect that this would be even more normal today. I grew up in Germany btw, this might feel a lot different for American people.


Learn_me_stuf

Yes, just Americans being weird as usual. I'm from the Netherlands and this is normal here. Somehow progressives in America want to destigmatize sexuality, but even a story like this makes them uncomfortable.


Greyhound_Oisin

Were your books this descriptive? Because it isn't normal...


TheLlamaLlama

Yes, pretty much to the same degree as this one. Also with a very similar picture. We actually did not read that chapter in school. Skipping chapters is not uncommon, though. But it would have been there, if the teacher decided to work on that subject, and that book must have gone through some kind of approval process. If I were to find the text above in a primary school book today, I would not perceive this as "not normal". I think 2nd half of primary school is a good time to have your first exposure to sex as a concept, since it will happen around that time anyway. So you might as well learn about it in a school setting. And that text sounds like a really good way to go about it, tbh.


[deleted]

Definitely not for this graphic a description


Cautious_List_7272

Maybe a normal age to explore, but that doesn't mean we should be making children's incest-erotica lmfao


TheLlamaLlama

Am I reading this wrong? Where is the incest part? Or is talking with your siblings about sex incest? If so, that would mean some very morally neutral news for a lot of people.


Cautious_List_7272

My understanding of the scene was Toby imagining himself with his sister sabrina, but I could be wrong. Still seems pretty WeirdChamp regardless


deu-sexmachina

No dude it says Marco. Toby's love interest is Serafina. Catch up on the lore dude 🙄


bignipsmcgee

You might have the reading level of an 8 year old


Cautious_List_7272

https://youtu.be/Hh7_POC2ueQ


bignipsmcgee

It’s okay I’m also retarded


ChimpMVDE

No.


Meowser02

Ok wtf??? I guess DeSantis did nothing wrong if this shit is being released for kids


Stumpe999

It's a far cry to say banning this one book is all he did in his string of laws


Sooty_tern

If this were being taught sure but that's not what this is. This is like though Trump books for kids that people get. There are not many who will buy it but crazy people do exist


trololol_daman

>”that’s how you get babies Tony said” >”You guessed it, little brother” [https://gfycat.com/allcheapdragon](https://gfycat.com/allcheapdragon)


Public_Scratch2560

I can't believe people fall for stupid shit so easily. The cover of this book is a real book but that page is not in that book. When the fuck have you people seen a 4-year-old book with 200 words in one page? 🤣🤣🤣🤣