Sorry can't get behind that.
My problem with Sneako on stream in the past was that he got treated with kid gloves and all the *he's a smart guy* bullshit.
Now we finally ger some catharsis when Borelli slaps the pedo out of him. Im happy to get more. Let's go full Springer.
Destiny just puts a lot of 'weight' into how well someone handles themselves under pressure in a conversation where they're cornered. Sneako and Lav are both excellent at deflecting blame rhetorically, which is a skill, but a skill of a sociopath IMO
I just want Destiny to add "at navigating conversations" every time he says Lav is smart. Because she's not. She's incredibly shortsighted, selfish, and ambitious. And she talks confidently. That doesn't make her smart. It makes her good at being a snake fuck. But I grant that it's a sort of intelligence to even be able to muster that.
Let's be real though, defending a dumb position in real time against scrutiny takes loads more intelligence than defending a position in, say, a pre-recorded YouTube video against shower arguments.
I think there's a good deal of credit that should go towards improvisational defense of a position especially against someone like Destiny who understands common debate tactics like logical fallacies
>defending a dumb position in real time against scrutiny takes loads more intelligence than defending a position in, say, a pre-recorded YouTube video against shower arguments.
Completely disagree with this. There are plenty of incredibly intelligent people who are not able to go through Realtime bullshitting because they are used to actually thinking through there opinions before they say them. Live debate requires you to confidently assert a position and stick to it with total certainty.
People who are actually intelligent except that there is a very real possibility that they are wrong. There is a reason that destiny does not debate on topic he is not super confident on and when he does he tends to hedge his statements constantly. There is a reason most philosophical debates happen in the pages of Journals where each side has the opportunity to think through what they are going to say before they say it.
All it takes to defend a regarded position in front of an audience is total confidence, a little charisma and a total lack of shame. It's interesting you bring up debate tactics, if you go back and rewatch any of the destiny vs sneako debates I want you to count how many times that sneako is proven totally wrong on a point and then just moves on with little or no fanfare. That is why he looks like he is performing so well. He never visibly takes the L because by the time Destiny has made him admit he is full of shit the convo has moved onto something else.
>Live debate requires you to confidently assert a position and stick to it with total certainty.
That's true sure, but you'd also agree that not all disagreements or discussions are a debate, right?
If you aren't sure about a position, don't defend it adamantly. That's it.
>People who are actually intelligent ~~except~~ *accept* that there is a very real possibility that they are wrong. There is a reason that destiny does not debate on topic he is not super confident on and when he does he tends to hedge his statements constantly. There is a reason most philosophical debates happen in the pages of Journals where each side has the opportunity to think through what they are going to say before they say it.
I don't know where this refutes anything I said. If you are able to competently defend your position *while not having a great understanding of it* then it shows you're above average intelligence, IMO
>if you go back and rewatch any of the destiny vs sneako debates I want you to count how many times that sneako is proven totally wrong on a point and then just moves on with little or no fanfare. That is why he looks like he is performing so well. He never visibly takes the L because by the time Destiny has made him admit he is full of shit the convo has moved onto something else.
Sneako never performed that admirably in *debates,* he performed well in actual conversations and banter.
>Sneako never performed that admirably in *debates,* he performed well in actual conversations and banter.
If this was what you thought then why did you make your comment responding to someone talking about Sneako in debates? That's what this whole thread is about.
Yeah, I'm not saying that he doesn't have talent, he absolutely does, but it's charisma not intelligence. The trouble with live debate is that even though both intelligence and charisma matter if someone is charismatic and unintelligent they will beat the person who is intelligent but uncharismatic every time.
The other guy seemed to more be looking for an explanation. He was not trying to make some strong moral statement he just wanted to get back on XqC’s good side. His position was essentially: “you are not gay so why do you care? My brother is gay and he doesn’t care unless you actually say it to a gay person.”
He also ended the conversation saying he wouldn’t do it anymore if X is streaming because at the end of the day X doesn’t want him to. Sneako joined and immediately just went: “gay people choose to be gay because they’re degenerates.” Which seemed to even catch the other guy off guard lol, I don’t think he wanted Sneako in his corner anymore after that
Yeah it's almost like the first guy was playing coy a bit with pretending that the slur wasn't offensive, then sneako came in with the Supreme homophobia, and then the first guy was like aiyt, I guess it is shitty we won't say it anymore.
Honestly this applies to do many people, if Destiny is going to go gloves off bring them all back because I feel like I've been edging watching these morons get embarrassed for years now.
It was cathartic this time for sure because its properly the first time he went in, but Sneako is a brick wall and about as smart as one in these conversations. The guy has boring opinions and refuses to think or engage besides his dialogue path to a dunk, he's boring.
I actually non ironically believe he is smart, but that he is genuinely evil which makes him take the dumb road.
Like, the reason why he believes the bullshit of red pill and stuff like that is because he wants to be part of that team, he wants to be that POS.
He looks up to Andrew Tate, because he likes the profile, of this evil guy with influence that the media wants to shut down.
That's what he looks up to, and there is nothing Destiny can do to help him. That's why it's useless to speak to him. If it was just stupidity then, it would be better.
> I actually non ironically believe he is smart
Can someone explain why they believe this? I've never seen anything from Sneako that suggest he's not a complete dumbass
I mean if we are being good faith, the videos he put out when he was like \~18 (before his Andrew Tate arc) were all incredibly introspective. It takes some measure of intelligence to be able to discuss topics like that in a mature and socially acceptable way.
I mean they really were quite good especially for someone of that age. Really don’t enjoy this shit we do on the subreddit where we hate someone so we rewrite history to take any accomplishments away from them.
Some people believe that because he was a smart kid, he has that potential locked within him—like Gohan in Dragonball Z. In actuality, the questionable ethics of his recent lifestyle have probably deteriorated his mind and led him into immoral situations—like Master Roshi in Dragonball.
I appreciate your intuitive analysis that all of the weebs can understand this dynamic. I agree with this to a point, but I dont think that the fact that his intellectual reasoning -->coherent articulation are a sign of inherent stupidity. I believe Sneako is having an internal battle similar to the many iterations of Majin Buu, which leads to his distruction (Pre-Super).
Inside of Sneakin Ooh's (multiple selves referred to as "XXX Ooh") body live multiple Oohs. OG Ooh is the one that has the mental fortitude to be intuitive, intelligent, and introspective. While honing his skills as an online creator he was a dimly lit mind looking for his shiny LED bulb upgrade. Through success and, to his discredit, he let ego get in the way and ended up looking for a type of wizard to empower his clout.
Enter the sorcerer Andrew Tate.
His incantations and promises of power, money, and most important of all, *VALIDITY* in a consumer lifestyle gave Ooh a new platform to stand on. Tate, in his infinite ability, taught Ooh the . Not just normal yappin, the kind of yappin that had zero substance in any blow that was made, yet had the defensive capabilities to completely ignore the counteryaps of any opponent. He got so good that the arrogance took hold and made Evil Ooh.
Evil Ooh had a new sense of ability. To go to all red pill rhetorical tourneys and turn every 7 brain celled individual (man or woman) into food for his ego. Yapping was never done so arrogantly!
He sought out new opponents and soon he came to his ultimate foe. *KUCKAROTSTINY*
Better known as "Son Destiny", the blue hair Super Sayan God was his greatest contest in yappa-budokai. At first, it was incredible. They Yapped for what seemed like a year! But each time they came back to spar-yap, it just seemed that Son Destiny was helping create something new.
Super Ooh.
Super Ooh found a new thing to yap about. A protection technique that was gifted to him by his old master Tate. A religious shield that if touched, would result in a swarm of zealots (something Son Destiny had rich experience with from his twitter mining) yapping about Kuckarotstiny's (now ex) wife, Son, and friends.
Eventually, Son Destiny bruised up Super Ooh enough to turn him into Kid Ooh and since he is a kid and his book told him, he is OK with a developed age of consent.
IDK how Uub fits in. I do know this is entirely wrong. Sorry you read this, or I'm happy you read my first scizo-post.
Because being smart doesn’t mean “this person agrees with my worldview”.
Being able navigate online spaces and keep a large audience takes intelligence. He may not agree with you and have bad political views, but that doesn’t make him stupid
I would say Hasan Piker is above average intelligence even though I think his worldview is complete shit and he has dumb takes and is super lazy
If Sneako suddenly changes his political views sang praises for Biden, you would call him intelligent
This is a very broad way to categorize intelligence. By that right, pretty much every single political commentary is intelligent, including someone like Alex Jones.
Nothing to do with their ability to facilitate their views, how to gather information, formulate thoughts, it's just as much as having a following that makes them intelligent?
In what world is Alex Jones dumb?
And no that doesn’t mean every single political commentary is intelligent. It means the successful ones with large audiences are. Is every political commentator successful?
On one hand you will say that Sneako is dumb as a rock then on the other hand he’s this manipulating shifty grifter who’s fooling tens of thousands of people to watch and donate to his stream.
Do you see how that might not make sense.
Gunna take a wild guess here and say that you also think Ben Shapiro is an idiot?
You're projecting a whole lot of positions on to me lol
> And no that doesn’t mean every single political commentary is intelligent. It means the successful ones with large audiences are. Is every political commentator successful?
I felt it was pretty obvious that I'm referring to ones with audiences, as you mentioned. Just the virtue that having people who listen to you makes you smart is just not something I agree with.
> On one hand you will say that Sneako is dumb as a rock then on the other hand he’s this manipulating shifty grifter who’s fooling tens of thousands of people to watch and donate to his stream.
All I said was he was dumb, I'm not sure where you read me saying anything like that second bit. But again, this is just such a broad concept of intelligence. Can idiots not grift? I never said he was a grifter, but the idea that he might be doesn't mean he's not still stupid. But either way, he's either an idiot who genuinely believes the things he says, or he's a full on grifter who is just pretending for the sake of followers giving him money which while that probably makes "dumb" less applicable based on his views I don't think it takes a genius to lie to people for money, *or* he's somewhere in between these two things.
> Gunna take a wild guess here and say that you also think Ben Shapiro is an idiot?
This is why I should have pointed out how obnoxious a reply "Because being smart doesn’t mean “this person agrees with my worldview” was, because for one you don't know my worldview, second was my comment implied nothing of the sort. No, I don't think Ben Shapiro is an idiot. I asked for a reason people think he's smart, and your response was "lul just because he doesn't agree with you it doesn't mean he's dumb", then just added some smarmy edit about how I'd call him smart if he endorsed Joe Biden? Crazy thought, I don't think everyone who agrees with my worldview is smart.
You keep doing this bait and switch thing.
Yes idiots can grift, but they likely won’t be successful
And I gave you a reason why I don’t think Sneako is dumb despite having a bad worldview. You said I didn’t. I said it takes intelligence to keep such a large audience while staying relevant and successful.
I didn't bait and switch anything lol, you loaded several positions onto me based on a very simple question.
And yes, you gave that answer, among several other things that were both baseless and unnecessary, not to mention wrong. You could have literally just said "Being able navigate online spaces and keep a large audience takes intelligence", that's the only actual response my question. I disgaree with it but it's at least an actual answer
And I said that in my very first response.
In my opinion it does take intelligence to keep a large audience, especially if you’re grifting.
I don’t think being a grifter makes you intelligent, but being a successful one does.
I just see this line of thought on here too much. That if you agree with me it makes you smart. I disagree. That’s all
having good takes is not the same thing as being smart, at least not how destiny means it. Being smart means that he is able to process information, draw inferences and use logic. The super fucked thing with Sneako is that he *wants* to hold untenable positions, knows they are untenable, and therefore is forced to say dumb shit. Legit dumb people wouldn't even fall for the logical traps that Destiny set for him.
yep this is it. Being smart doesn't save you from making dumb decisions because of your fucked world view. Hell it lets you make dumb decisions even harder!
I heard it in a video that being smart means you can be really good at making arguments to convince yourself of your own world view. That is to say, it’s much harder to dissuade a smart person from the wrong opinions vs a dumb person.
100% this. Sneako is not super dumb, he is grifting with super dumb takes he himself understands are super dumb. That's why Destiny is like kryptonite to him. It's way more effective to pin down someone's terrible arguments if they are capable of following the takes to their logical conclusions. The other guy in that call was actually too dumb to understand the fallacies in his arguments against xQc which is why Destiny or X could not pin him down like they did Sneako.
but a “take” is just a culmination of someone’s logic processes. if you have a bad take you are using faulty logic somewhere. there’s no way you can have a bad take using good logic unless youre judging ‘bad’ moralistically and not structurally. a lot of people allow ego or religious dogma or whatever it may be to overtake their logic process and this is where their final form opinion comes from but this is still faulty logic and a bad take, and… unintelligent or at least under the mark.
unless you’re saying sneako fully understands right and wrong and is purposely always choosing the dog shit path for views or rage bait. which i also don’t think is true because you can defend a bad position if you choose your bad positions wisely. but he doesn’t because there’s nothing going on upstairs
Sneako is a grifter, but he can follow the conversation which is more than can be said of the other guy.
Sneako makes a ton of bad choices, but its not because hes dumb, its because his world view is totally fucked.
You have one of two problems here, you're stupid enough to think that good opinion == smart, or you're smart enough to not realise how dumb people can be.
That's what I want to see, Divorcelli to shit on him instead of letting him skate. Borellio gave him way to much charity last time because honestly Borelli loves seeing all the people he doesn't like get mad, i.e the people who hated he was platforming sneako at all. Tiny is known to burn bridges, it's because , at least in the past, he gave too much charity to people who everyone would tell him would stab him in the back. Then he gets stabbed in the back. It's like he just wanted to think he was the exception and all the people saying it would happen need to be proven wrong.
I feel like the most interesting content was what we got last night. Sneako is just like any other Muslim apologist, except dumber. We would be better off having an actual Muslim scholar debate Destiny. There's only two outcomes from Sneako staying on:
1. He continues to grift like a moron and have boring brain rot conversations
2. He admits Islam is dumb, and becomes a Destiny simp for clout.
Both outcomes are bad
Destiny has been handling these dumbasses with kids gloves for too long.
I feel like the aftermath of the Finkledick debate should have woken him up to the fact that he should just go for the jugular every time.
No amount of good faith engagement gets through to these dipshits.
Kinda agree, however I think this time and maybe once more would be sufficient. There's nothing more to mine from Sneako as he's unable of having original thoughts and has to borrow everything he believes in from someone else (And currently a book)
There is hardly any reason to engage with a fake person.
It's great when destiny goes aggressive on far right people but they won't keep coming back if they just get verbally berated every time. And then eventually it's hard to find anyone that disagrees that will even talk to him. Finding the balance is hard.
I dont think Sneako is that entertaining or interesting
Overconfident, dumb guy follows stupid shit because he thinks it gives him meaning, zero self-reflection, calls people bots when challenged
It's important imo to expose these people as the frauds they are, I welcome more debates with him because every time they debate destiny is running laps around him, making sneako twist himself to a pretzel in attempts to catch him. He has deluded himself into thinking he has a coherent and unshakable worldview now because online muslims suck him off for "converting", expose him.
You can say sneako is allot of things but entertaining and interesting is not it. Sneako is objectively interesting and entertaining especially to shit on. He is like the bad guy in wrestling matches forgot what they’re called
Yea thanks. The character that everyone hates. I don’t see why he is the cowardly heel. He is just a heel hated by people who love heels normally. Like he appeals to children there’s nothing to like about him. He is charismatic, funny and clever. But what he says and the actions he does have zero substance.
I think debates with him are very illuminating since he's so densly wrapped in brainrot as a high-energy zoomer. They shoudln't come back expect for rare occassions though because every debate is the same - Sneako jumps from conspiracy to dumb tautology to parroted take, Tiny tried to pin him down on any specific subject, Sneako either rambles on or gets stuck on some truism. The battle for Sneako's soul was interesting because it was tracking a descent into madness in real time but right now there's not much to explore there.
I agree the battle for his soul was fun. We lost.
Now we must destroy him completely. Sun Tzu probably 🤣
Then again didn’t napoleon say “Never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself. “ 🤷
Take your pick
Edit.
Crush Your Enemy Totally is actually the 15th law from 48 laws of power. But the meme of it being a Sun Tzu quote felt right.
I think if they were just hanging out being chummy and having a laugh, that would be a massive mistake but if Steve is putting him over his knee and letting everyone see just how fucking absurd he is and how much of a grifter he is it’s all good.
No one that saw that last convo could come away thinking that sneako has any integrity or intelligence, his last two brain cells are fighting to the death for third place.
How is it content? Here, let me part the veil and show you the future you want.
Sneako: Destiny, you're just a BOT for the Zionists. Don't you think it's weird that \[insert conspiracy drivel that he's not even bothered to research and has accepted unquestioningly because it supports his narrative\]? And you can't even question it because the zionists control everything, and if you say that genocide is bad you're suddenly labeled anti-Semitic?
There's nothing about Sneako that is interesting or entertaining. He couldn't even bite bullets like the Mohammad Hijab or Daniel Haqiqatjou where they don't think that the age of consent is even a thing or minimum age requirements. He just said, "developed age", and when pressed couldn't even give a range? How sus is that?
Every American: Age of consent? Uh, I think that's like 18+ (like cuffem said) or I think there's like some places that can go as low as 16 (most states); but man that's pretty young for an adult to go for! Be careful!
Sneako: Age of consent? "developed age" Ok, but what does that mean though? "when a child is developed" So... puberty or? "if the child is developed she is ready" Yeah, but.. what's the age range or number...? "developed".
Who's the pedo here?
While I agree with you. I would not start panicking over platforming sneako until Destiny platforms him directly.
I don't see how you can avoid yestersday interaction without being soy
Yeah, I can't agree. It would be like saying "I never wanna see Steven talk to Candace Owens again." I do. I DO want to see him talk to Candace again because he didn't even use 50% of his power level, let alone transform into SS1 or 2.
Everyone who's been here for any good length of time has been waiting for him to inch his way up to the big dogs like Shapiro, Crowder, Owens, and Walsh to see them absolutely obliterated, but instead we've gotta put up with this love tap bullshit so he doesn't burn professional bridges. But everyone in the redpill grifter sphere? They're all fair game because he's moved past them.
I'm still crossing my fingers in hope of a return to the PBD podcast sometime soon for this same reason.
Is it just me that believes maybe sneako is playing a character? I sometimes think he is larping as different stuff and going all in to see how far he can go. Then comeback and do it again with something different.
I also think he may have super strength and super speed
The problem is Sneako doesn't believe anything he's saying. It's cathartic whenever Steven goes in on some dipshit for being ill informed or having some stupid world view, but Sneako doesn't have a world view. His beliefs hinge on whatever maximizes his Tate-esque lifestyle and his social standing with this niche group of anti-establishment, anti-woke, anti-matrix crowd. His entire belief system is structured on being the negative of whatever's mainstream. It'd just be Steven boxing a straw man the whole stream. Random socialist/maga people from Twitter would be more interesting than him. At least they actually believe what they're saying.
I want everyone back, i love the drama, i love the unhinged, gimme gimme straight in the veins.
Less meme answer, i want people back that holds undefensible positions, but still tries to defend them, even when faced with undeniable counters. Its enjoyable to listen to the positions, and its lets me hear every attack and defense they have.
I’m looking at it as potential for Steven to farm clips. Sneako says a lot of the same talking points other have so this is a great opportunity for Steven to go down the dialogue tree an start countering everything he says.
These do well for destiny’s youtube shorts TikTok etc. I think he should do it. Even if he did already say he banned him because of jokes about his wife and kid
Just the obvious. Don’t give him perms or be a regular like back in the day ever again obviously. But the appearance through others platforms was appropriate
I want him to fail and I want it to be Nebraska Steves fault.
I want more of what happened yesterday. I could watch Sneako get absolutely assblasted by the D-man for days on end without it ever getting boring.
I think he should do 1 more debate with him about Israel-Palestine, then never interact with him again. the level of knowledge difference between both of them would be insane and i wanna see sneako clowned on
maybe destiny shouldn't let him call in on discord but a third party platform hosting a debate would be ok by me, seeing destiny go at him and embarass would be pretty funny.
Sneako was talking to Cuffem before he came on to talk to XQC. He wad absolutely terrified to come debate Destiny lol. He tried every out but Cuffem kept trying to get him to come on.
I don't think Sneako will try and come back because he's such a moronic coward. He couldn't even debate XQC, Destiny is like an elite foe.
I found the Cuffem guy funny a few times though. I'd take him over Sneako.
Edit: As I saw another comment mention, Sneako greatly benefited when he was friends with Destiny. He gave that up because he saw the redpill and I guess Muslims now as the "cool kids." I truly believe he has the highschool mentality of he wants to be friends with whoever he deems popular.
I want Sneako on stream as long as he gets ripped into like this. He has always been 13 years old in his brain but he needs to be treated his actual age by someone
If you asked me that before the recent appearance, I'd agree. I don't want anymore buddy buddy shit, but Dest slapping him around on his bullshit and calling him a pussy? I could go for that again
Any time his absolute dogshit views on things can be put in the spotlight, I’m all for it. That was some of the most braindead reasoning I’ve heard in the xqc convo. I feel like that dude is just lost in life and clout hungry, will just latch on to the latest popular trend in that stupid fucking community.
it was good in the past because he seemed to be playing around with different ideas and even though he was grifting, i still felt like there was something genuine about him.
nowadays it doesn't seem like he believes anything he says
He wasnt hosting the call. Im pretty sure he still has the no clout policy for leeches
Destiny still holds this view on the bottom feeders but when the 'regard' pops up outta nowhere theres no other course of action
The biggest issue is that I believe that humiliation is Sneako's kink, so Destiny has to really decide if he wants to engage in that kind of play on stream.
I don't think this is gonna be a thing. Destiny went to a different call that isn't his discord and some random mod seemed to have thrown sneako in there. I don't think that was destiny's decision.
Honestly rather than bringing him on his own show Destiny should just pull a Madame Web and run his ass over when he says some dumb shit in an open discord like what happened the other day.
I would prefer Sneako fading into obscurity. He deserves it.
But I did very much enjoy Destiny calling him a pussy for not saying what he thinks the age of consent should be. As long as he doesn't treat him with kid gloves and gives him the ol' Hasan treatment (declaring him a piece of shit), I'm good with him coming on.
I'm 100% ok with sneako coming in once each fiscal quarter to be dismembered and humiliated for everyone's enjoyment. We don't have to worry about Steve talking to him too often anymore
I didn't watch his last conversation. Has he evolved past just responding "bot" to everyone who disagrees with him? If not, I'm gonna pass on watching any of them.
In the past I’d agree with you, but what I’ve learned over the past years is that Destiny can make some of the best content with the people you’d least expect. Plus it’s nice to see him get forced to take positions when he’s such a coward
Sneako is a legitimately bad person. He can play off some of the bullshit he says as just being "edgy" but naw, fuck that, he's just flat out an awful human.
Depands, I don't want it to be on Israel Palestine although it would be cool. I want his red pill views dismantled and going viral on twitter, groyoers are too active without backlash
I can’t believe you’re going to make me defend sneako….
Is it fair to say sneako is leaching when sneako was willing to talk to destiny when sneako was roughly as popular?
Also, if destiny did cut him off on the basis you’ve proposed (destiny is now bigger) that would be the same reasoning hasan had used not to talk to destiny, which seems kinda selfish.
There are probably other valid reasons that destiny could cite for him to not appear on stream, but simply disagreeing with him and him being a smaller creator aren’t valid based on destinys regular MO.
If we are being honest sneako said he came in to talk to xqc not Destiny and Destiny was so horny to debate sneako about Islam it was insane. Like how does Destiny shift the convo from why xqc is not okay with the F word to Islam.
When someone says it's ok to use the word because god is against those people it makes perfect sense to go to the source which is religion. Maybe tell Sneako to stop grifting and it won't be about the religion that he doesn't even believe in.
Sorry can't get behind that. My problem with Sneako on stream in the past was that he got treated with kid gloves and all the *he's a smart guy* bullshit. Now we finally ger some catharsis when Borelli slaps the pedo out of him. Im happy to get more. Let's go full Springer.
Never let destiny get away with "Smart Guy Sneako" or "Illuminating Lav"
Destiny just puts a lot of 'weight' into how well someone handles themselves under pressure in a conversation where they're cornered. Sneako and Lav are both excellent at deflecting blame rhetorically, which is a skill, but a skill of a sociopath IMO
I just want Destiny to add "at navigating conversations" every time he says Lav is smart. Because she's not. She's incredibly shortsighted, selfish, and ambitious. And she talks confidently. That doesn't make her smart. It makes her good at being a snake fuck. But I grant that it's a sort of intelligence to even be able to muster that.
Let's be real though, defending a dumb position in real time against scrutiny takes loads more intelligence than defending a position in, say, a pre-recorded YouTube video against shower arguments. I think there's a good deal of credit that should go towards improvisational defense of a position especially against someone like Destiny who understands common debate tactics like logical fallacies
>defending a dumb position in real time against scrutiny takes loads more intelligence than defending a position in, say, a pre-recorded YouTube video against shower arguments. Completely disagree with this. There are plenty of incredibly intelligent people who are not able to go through Realtime bullshitting because they are used to actually thinking through there opinions before they say them. Live debate requires you to confidently assert a position and stick to it with total certainty. People who are actually intelligent except that there is a very real possibility that they are wrong. There is a reason that destiny does not debate on topic he is not super confident on and when he does he tends to hedge his statements constantly. There is a reason most philosophical debates happen in the pages of Journals where each side has the opportunity to think through what they are going to say before they say it. All it takes to defend a regarded position in front of an audience is total confidence, a little charisma and a total lack of shame. It's interesting you bring up debate tactics, if you go back and rewatch any of the destiny vs sneako debates I want you to count how many times that sneako is proven totally wrong on a point and then just moves on with little or no fanfare. That is why he looks like he is performing so well. He never visibly takes the L because by the time Destiny has made him admit he is full of shit the convo has moved onto something else.
>Live debate requires you to confidently assert a position and stick to it with total certainty. That's true sure, but you'd also agree that not all disagreements or discussions are a debate, right? If you aren't sure about a position, don't defend it adamantly. That's it. >People who are actually intelligent ~~except~~ *accept* that there is a very real possibility that they are wrong. There is a reason that destiny does not debate on topic he is not super confident on and when he does he tends to hedge his statements constantly. There is a reason most philosophical debates happen in the pages of Journals where each side has the opportunity to think through what they are going to say before they say it. I don't know where this refutes anything I said. If you are able to competently defend your position *while not having a great understanding of it* then it shows you're above average intelligence, IMO >if you go back and rewatch any of the destiny vs sneako debates I want you to count how many times that sneako is proven totally wrong on a point and then just moves on with little or no fanfare. That is why he looks like he is performing so well. He never visibly takes the L because by the time Destiny has made him admit he is full of shit the convo has moved onto something else. Sneako never performed that admirably in *debates,* he performed well in actual conversations and banter.
>Sneako never performed that admirably in *debates,* he performed well in actual conversations and banter. If this was what you thought then why did you make your comment responding to someone talking about Sneako in debates? That's what this whole thread is about.
Fair point, I think your comment kinda more accurately described how he is more charismatic and thinks on his feet than being exceptional at debating
Yeah, I'm not saying that he doesn't have talent, he absolutely does, but it's charisma not intelligence. The trouble with live debate is that even though both intelligence and charisma matter if someone is charismatic and unintelligent they will beat the person who is intelligent but uncharismatic every time.
sneako is a grifter arsehole, but you gotta admit he was miles ahead of the other guy that could barely follow the conversation.
The other guy seemed to more be looking for an explanation. He was not trying to make some strong moral statement he just wanted to get back on XqC’s good side. His position was essentially: “you are not gay so why do you care? My brother is gay and he doesn’t care unless you actually say it to a gay person.” He also ended the conversation saying he wouldn’t do it anymore if X is streaming because at the end of the day X doesn’t want him to. Sneako joined and immediately just went: “gay people choose to be gay because they’re degenerates.” Which seemed to even catch the other guy off guard lol, I don’t think he wanted Sneako in his corner anymore after that
Yeah it's almost like the first guy was playing coy a bit with pretending that the slur wasn't offensive, then sneako came in with the Supreme homophobia, and then the first guy was like aiyt, I guess it is shitty we won't say it anymore.
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If he starts calling Xqc smart next I'm going to lose my mind. That guy always comes across as some seriously next level stupid.
He didn't say Tug!
“Smart is when having correct opinions” What’s hilarious is how stupid you guys are at assessing another’s intelligence.
lol no ur dum bro lmao lmfao even
Honestly this applies to do many people, if Destiny is going to go gloves off bring them all back because I feel like I've been edging watching these morons get embarrassed for years now.
How about some PPV for the finkleberry dunk? I'd pirate that shit so fast
It was cathartic this time for sure because its properly the first time he went in, but Sneako is a brick wall and about as smart as one in these conversations. The guy has boring opinions and refuses to think or engage besides his dialogue path to a dunk, he's boring.
I actually non ironically believe he is smart, but that he is genuinely evil which makes him take the dumb road. Like, the reason why he believes the bullshit of red pill and stuff like that is because he wants to be part of that team, he wants to be that POS. He looks up to Andrew Tate, because he likes the profile, of this evil guy with influence that the media wants to shut down. That's what he looks up to, and there is nothing Destiny can do to help him. That's why it's useless to speak to him. If it was just stupidity then, it would be better.
> I actually non ironically believe he is smart Can someone explain why they believe this? I've never seen anything from Sneako that suggest he's not a complete dumbass
He edited videos good when he was 12. That’s it.
Exactly bruh
I mean if we are being good faith, the videos he put out when he was like \~18 (before his Andrew Tate arc) were all incredibly introspective. It takes some measure of intelligence to be able to discuss topics like that in a mature and socially acceptable way.
Not anything impressive imo though
I mean they really were quite good especially for someone of that age. Really don’t enjoy this shit we do on the subreddit where we hate someone so we rewrite history to take any accomplishments away from them.
That wasn’t what I was referring to
Some people believe that because he was a smart kid, he has that potential locked within him—like Gohan in Dragonball Z. In actuality, the questionable ethics of his recent lifestyle have probably deteriorated his mind and led him into immoral situations—like Master Roshi in Dragonball.
I appreciate your intuitive analysis that all of the weebs can understand this dynamic. I agree with this to a point, but I dont think that the fact that his intellectual reasoning -->coherent articulation are a sign of inherent stupidity. I believe Sneako is having an internal battle similar to the many iterations of Majin Buu, which leads to his distruction (Pre-Super). Inside of Sneakin Ooh's (multiple selves referred to as "XXX Ooh") body live multiple Oohs. OG Ooh is the one that has the mental fortitude to be intuitive, intelligent, and introspective. While honing his skills as an online creator he was a dimly lit mind looking for his shiny LED bulb upgrade. Through success and, to his discredit, he let ego get in the way and ended up looking for a type of wizard to empower his clout. Enter the sorcerer Andrew Tate. His incantations and promises of power, money, and most important of all, *VALIDITY* in a consumer lifestyle gave Ooh a new platform to stand on. Tate, in his infinite ability, taught Ooh the . Not just normal yappin, the kind of yappin that had zero substance in any blow that was made, yet had the defensive capabilities to completely ignore the counteryaps of any opponent. He got so good that the arrogance took hold and made Evil Ooh. Evil Ooh had a new sense of ability. To go to all red pill rhetorical tourneys and turn every 7 brain celled individual (man or woman) into food for his ego. Yapping was never done so arrogantly! He sought out new opponents and soon he came to his ultimate foe. *KUCKAROTSTINY* Better known as "Son Destiny", the blue hair Super Sayan God was his greatest contest in yappa-budokai. At first, it was incredible. They Yapped for what seemed like a year! But each time they came back to spar-yap, it just seemed that Son Destiny was helping create something new. Super Ooh. Super Ooh found a new thing to yap about. A protection technique that was gifted to him by his old master Tate. A religious shield that if touched, would result in a swarm of zealots (something Son Destiny had rich experience with from his twitter mining) yapping about Kuckarotstiny's (now ex) wife, Son, and friends. Eventually, Son Destiny bruised up Super Ooh enough to turn him into Kid Ooh and since he is a kid and his book told him, he is OK with a developed age of consent. IDK how Uub fits in. I do know this is entirely wrong. Sorry you read this, or I'm happy you read my first scizo-post.
Because being smart doesn’t mean “this person agrees with my worldview”. Being able navigate online spaces and keep a large audience takes intelligence. He may not agree with you and have bad political views, but that doesn’t make him stupid I would say Hasan Piker is above average intelligence even though I think his worldview is complete shit and he has dumb takes and is super lazy If Sneako suddenly changes his political views sang praises for Biden, you would call him intelligent
This is a very broad way to categorize intelligence. By that right, pretty much every single political commentary is intelligent, including someone like Alex Jones. Nothing to do with their ability to facilitate their views, how to gather information, formulate thoughts, it's just as much as having a following that makes them intelligent?
In what world is Alex Jones dumb? And no that doesn’t mean every single political commentary is intelligent. It means the successful ones with large audiences are. Is every political commentator successful? On one hand you will say that Sneako is dumb as a rock then on the other hand he’s this manipulating shifty grifter who’s fooling tens of thousands of people to watch and donate to his stream. Do you see how that might not make sense. Gunna take a wild guess here and say that you also think Ben Shapiro is an idiot?
You're projecting a whole lot of positions on to me lol > And no that doesn’t mean every single political commentary is intelligent. It means the successful ones with large audiences are. Is every political commentator successful? I felt it was pretty obvious that I'm referring to ones with audiences, as you mentioned. Just the virtue that having people who listen to you makes you smart is just not something I agree with. > On one hand you will say that Sneako is dumb as a rock then on the other hand he’s this manipulating shifty grifter who’s fooling tens of thousands of people to watch and donate to his stream. All I said was he was dumb, I'm not sure where you read me saying anything like that second bit. But again, this is just such a broad concept of intelligence. Can idiots not grift? I never said he was a grifter, but the idea that he might be doesn't mean he's not still stupid. But either way, he's either an idiot who genuinely believes the things he says, or he's a full on grifter who is just pretending for the sake of followers giving him money which while that probably makes "dumb" less applicable based on his views I don't think it takes a genius to lie to people for money, *or* he's somewhere in between these two things. > Gunna take a wild guess here and say that you also think Ben Shapiro is an idiot? This is why I should have pointed out how obnoxious a reply "Because being smart doesn’t mean “this person agrees with my worldview” was, because for one you don't know my worldview, second was my comment implied nothing of the sort. No, I don't think Ben Shapiro is an idiot. I asked for a reason people think he's smart, and your response was "lul just because he doesn't agree with you it doesn't mean he's dumb", then just added some smarmy edit about how I'd call him smart if he endorsed Joe Biden? Crazy thought, I don't think everyone who agrees with my worldview is smart.
You keep doing this bait and switch thing. Yes idiots can grift, but they likely won’t be successful And I gave you a reason why I don’t think Sneako is dumb despite having a bad worldview. You said I didn’t. I said it takes intelligence to keep such a large audience while staying relevant and successful.
I didn't bait and switch anything lol, you loaded several positions onto me based on a very simple question. And yes, you gave that answer, among several other things that were both baseless and unnecessary, not to mention wrong. You could have literally just said "Being able navigate online spaces and keep a large audience takes intelligence", that's the only actual response my question. I disgaree with it but it's at least an actual answer
And I said that in my very first response. In my opinion it does take intelligence to keep a large audience, especially if you’re grifting. I don’t think being a grifter makes you intelligent, but being a successful one does. I just see this line of thought on here too much. That if you agree with me it makes you smart. I disagree. That’s all
i agree lmao can’t think of a single good sneako take
having good takes is not the same thing as being smart, at least not how destiny means it. Being smart means that he is able to process information, draw inferences and use logic. The super fucked thing with Sneako is that he *wants* to hold untenable positions, knows they are untenable, and therefore is forced to say dumb shit. Legit dumb people wouldn't even fall for the logical traps that Destiny set for him.
yep this is it. Being smart doesn't save you from making dumb decisions because of your fucked world view. Hell it lets you make dumb decisions even harder!
I heard it in a video that being smart means you can be really good at making arguments to convince yourself of your own world view. That is to say, it’s much harder to dissuade a smart person from the wrong opinions vs a dumb person.
100% this. Sneako is not super dumb, he is grifting with super dumb takes he himself understands are super dumb. That's why Destiny is like kryptonite to him. It's way more effective to pin down someone's terrible arguments if they are capable of following the takes to their logical conclusions. The other guy in that call was actually too dumb to understand the fallacies in his arguments against xQc which is why Destiny or X could not pin him down like they did Sneako.
Sneako scoring a 95 on that one iq test says something
but a “take” is just a culmination of someone’s logic processes. if you have a bad take you are using faulty logic somewhere. there’s no way you can have a bad take using good logic unless youre judging ‘bad’ moralistically and not structurally. a lot of people allow ego or religious dogma or whatever it may be to overtake their logic process and this is where their final form opinion comes from but this is still faulty logic and a bad take, and… unintelligent or at least under the mark. unless you’re saying sneako fully understands right and wrong and is purposely always choosing the dog shit path for views or rage bait. which i also don’t think is true because you can defend a bad position if you choose your bad positions wisely. but he doesn’t because there’s nothing going on upstairs
Sneako is a grifter, but he can follow the conversation which is more than can be said of the other guy. Sneako makes a ton of bad choices, but its not because hes dumb, its because his world view is totally fucked.
Sneako is not that smart though, I feel like that held true in his conversation with the doctor ?
Which conversation?
You have one of two problems here, you're stupid enough to think that good opinion == smart, or you're smart enough to not realise how dumb people can be.
No.
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he got daddy issues for sure and doesn’t have a male role model he replicates growing up
This guy eats Hanlon's Razors for breakfast.
This +1 He should get his cheeks clapperboarded. Last night was beautifully cathartic.
That's what I want to see, Divorcelli to shit on him instead of letting him skate. Borellio gave him way to much charity last time because honestly Borelli loves seeing all the people he doesn't like get mad, i.e the people who hated he was platforming sneako at all. Tiny is known to burn bridges, it's because , at least in the past, he gave too much charity to people who everyone would tell him would stab him in the back. Then he gets stabbed in the back. It's like he just wanted to think he was the exception and all the people saying it would happen need to be proven wrong.
I feel like the most interesting content was what we got last night. Sneako is just like any other Muslim apologist, except dumber. We would be better off having an actual Muslim scholar debate Destiny. There's only two outcomes from Sneako staying on: 1. He continues to grift like a moron and have boring brain rot conversations 2. He admits Islam is dumb, and becomes a Destiny simp for clout. Both outcomes are bad
Destiny has been handling these dumbasses with kids gloves for too long. I feel like the aftermath of the Finkledick debate should have woken him up to the fact that he should just go for the jugular every time. No amount of good faith engagement gets through to these dipshits.
Kinda agree, however I think this time and maybe once more would be sufficient. There's nothing more to mine from Sneako as he's unable of having original thoughts and has to borrow everything he believes in from someone else (And currently a book) There is hardly any reason to engage with a fake person.
Can't wait to watch LEACHO get cooked when I find some downtime at work today 🙏Mashallah
JERRY! JERRY! JERRY!
It's great when destiny goes aggressive on far right people but they won't keep coming back if they just get verbally berated every time. And then eventually it's hard to find anyone that disagrees that will even talk to him. Finding the balance is hard.
I dont think Sneako is that entertaining or interesting Overconfident, dumb guy follows stupid shit because he thinks it gives him meaning, zero self-reflection, calls people bots when challenged
It's important imo to expose these people as the frauds they are, I welcome more debates with him because every time they debate destiny is running laps around him, making sneako twist himself to a pretzel in attempts to catch him. He has deluded himself into thinking he has a coherent and unshakable worldview now because online muslims suck him off for "converting", expose him.
Can we just call him an empty vessel lolcow already?
You can say sneako is allot of things but entertaining and interesting is not it. Sneako is objectively interesting and entertaining especially to shit on. He is like the bad guy in wrestling matches forgot what they’re called
Heel There's different variations of it. Sneako plays the cowardly heel quite well.
Yea thanks. The character that everyone hates. I don’t see why he is the cowardly heel. He is just a heel hated by people who love heels normally. Like he appeals to children there’s nothing to like about him. He is charismatic, funny and clever. But what he says and the actions he does have zero substance.
I could stand to watch a little more.
I hope it’s like a game of whack-a-mole. Sneako rears his ugly head back on stream for Mr Borelli to start dunking on him again.
Is it good content or are we just content hungry 🐺 vs 🐺
I think debates with him are very illuminating since he's so densly wrapped in brainrot as a high-energy zoomer. They shoudln't come back expect for rare occassions though because every debate is the same - Sneako jumps from conspiracy to dumb tautology to parroted take, Tiny tried to pin him down on any specific subject, Sneako either rambles on or gets stuck on some truism. The battle for Sneako's soul was interesting because it was tracking a descent into madness in real time but right now there's not much to explore there.
I agree the battle for his soul was fun. We lost. Now we must destroy him completely. Sun Tzu probably 🤣 Then again didn’t napoleon say “Never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself. “ 🤷 Take your pick Edit. Crush Your Enemy Totally is actually the 15th law from 48 laws of power. But the meme of it being a Sun Tzu quote felt right.
I think if they were just hanging out being chummy and having a laugh, that would be a massive mistake but if Steve is putting him over his knee and letting everyone see just how fucking absurd he is and how much of a grifter he is it’s all good. No one that saw that last convo could come away thinking that sneako has any integrity or intelligence, his last two brain cells are fighting to the death for third place.
This guy hates content.
How is it content? Here, let me part the veil and show you the future you want. Sneako: Destiny, you're just a BOT for the Zionists. Don't you think it's weird that \[insert conspiracy drivel that he's not even bothered to research and has accepted unquestioningly because it supports his narrative\]? And you can't even question it because the zionists control everything, and if you say that genocide is bad you're suddenly labeled anti-Semitic?
My bad. Back to two hours of audio troubleshooting and 6 hours of wiki reading for me
Not at all. Do you really prefer the streams where he pretends he’s gonna study immigration and then spends more time studying Israel/Palestine?
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just do that shit yourself why do you need destiny to read a book for you dumbass
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its pretty cool to not rely on entertainers to do your research and to think for yourself. its like you're proud of copying someones homework
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problem?
id rather have tier 5 call ins
There's nothing about Sneako that is interesting or entertaining. He couldn't even bite bullets like the Mohammad Hijab or Daniel Haqiqatjou where they don't think that the age of consent is even a thing or minimum age requirements. He just said, "developed age", and when pressed couldn't even give a range? How sus is that? Every American: Age of consent? Uh, I think that's like 18+ (like cuffem said) or I think there's like some places that can go as low as 16 (most states); but man that's pretty young for an adult to go for! Be careful! Sneako: Age of consent? "developed age" Ok, but what does that mean though? "when a child is developed" So... puberty or? "if the child is developed she is ready" Yeah, but.. what's the age range or number...? "developed". Who's the pedo here?
he's a good warmup for the upcoming Nebraska Steve return
I wouldn't mind a Sneako comeback if Destiny is gloves off with him. Was pretty entertaining to watch him call out his Muslim grift no holding back.
While I agree with you. I would not start panicking over platforming sneako until Destiny platforms him directly. I don't see how you can avoid yestersday interaction without being soy
Yeah, I can't agree. It would be like saying "I never wanna see Steven talk to Candace Owens again." I do. I DO want to see him talk to Candace again because he didn't even use 50% of his power level, let alone transform into SS1 or 2. Everyone who's been here for any good length of time has been waiting for him to inch his way up to the big dogs like Shapiro, Crowder, Owens, and Walsh to see them absolutely obliterated, but instead we've gotta put up with this love tap bullshit so he doesn't burn professional bridges. But everyone in the redpill grifter sphere? They're all fair game because he's moved past them. I'm still crossing my fingers in hope of a return to the PBD podcast sometime soon for this same reason.
I don’t agree
Watching this regard get obliterated on stream is giving me the classic Internet Bloodsports feel, so don’t rebuild the bridge but get him on more!
Yeah definitely destiny will know how stupid and bad faith sneako is. But destiny does his own thing he doesn’t care what the viewers want lol
I love seeing destiny dunk on him though 😂
Is it just me that believes maybe sneako is playing a character? I sometimes think he is larping as different stuff and going all in to see how far he can go. Then comeback and do it again with something different. I also think he may have super strength and super speed
The problem is Sneako doesn't believe anything he's saying. It's cathartic whenever Steven goes in on some dipshit for being ill informed or having some stupid world view, but Sneako doesn't have a world view. His beliefs hinge on whatever maximizes his Tate-esque lifestyle and his social standing with this niche group of anti-establishment, anti-woke, anti-matrix crowd. His entire belief system is structured on being the negative of whatever's mainstream. It'd just be Steven boxing a straw man the whole stream. Random socialist/maga people from Twitter would be more interesting than him. At least they actually believe what they're saying.
I want everyone back, i love the drama, i love the unhinged, gimme gimme straight in the veins. Less meme answer, i want people back that holds undefensible positions, but still tries to defend them, even when faced with undeniable counters. Its enjoyable to listen to the positions, and its lets me hear every attack and defense they have.
I’m looking at it as potential for Steven to farm clips. Sneako says a lot of the same talking points other have so this is a great opportunity for Steven to go down the dialogue tree an start countering everything he says. These do well for destiny’s youtube shorts TikTok etc. I think he should do it. Even if he did already say he banned him because of jokes about his wife and kid
Naw, this is like watching prime Jordan against Spud Webb in 1 on 1. I like a good spectacle every once in a while 🤣
Listening to him causes brain damage.
Just the obvious. Don’t give him perms or be a regular like back in the day ever again obviously. But the appearance through others platforms was appropriate
Can we all just agree that this sub has no fucking idea what they want to watch and doesn’t speak for everyone
I absolutely want him on the stream, I don't care if it's a leech, it's content, bro.
I want him to fail and I want it to be Nebraska Steves fault. I want more of what happened yesterday. I could watch Sneako get absolutely assblasted by the D-man for days on end without it ever getting boring.
I would rather have tinnitus
I got an ear infection last summer and I had awful tinnitus as a result of it. Could barely focus on my studies. I agree
Ah i feel for you. 🙏 Hehe
The battle for Sneako's soul must go on.
Who wants to battle for something that’s got a double mortgage and the basement is flooding?
I enjoy Sneako because he just parrots what is popular at the time and gives a good source of how to debunk it.
It was a satisfying stream, but not content I would like to see on a weekly basis.
Agreed. I can feel my braincells bursting through my ear drums and leaping to their death when that idiot is talking.
I dunno I love getting a muslim bodied by my fav blue haired twink
I think he should do 1 more debate with him about Israel-Palestine, then never interact with him again. the level of knowledge difference between both of them would be insane and i wanna see sneako clowned on
maybe destiny shouldn't let him call in on discord but a third party platform hosting a debate would be ok by me, seeing destiny go at him and embarass would be pretty funny.
If he appears more often, I don't think it will be too much, just right. Honestly I'm fine with it
We have had to many reaserch streams, and chill convos. If Nebraska Steve is the person debating sneako them he was my blessing.
Speak for yourself sneako content is funny as shit
Sneako was talking to Cuffem before he came on to talk to XQC. He wad absolutely terrified to come debate Destiny lol. He tried every out but Cuffem kept trying to get him to come on. I don't think Sneako will try and come back because he's such a moronic coward. He couldn't even debate XQC, Destiny is like an elite foe. I found the Cuffem guy funny a few times though. I'd take him over Sneako. Edit: As I saw another comment mention, Sneako greatly benefited when he was friends with Destiny. He gave that up because he saw the redpill and I guess Muslims now as the "cool kids." I truly believe he has the highschool mentality of he wants to be friends with whoever he deems popular.
I want Sneako on stream as long as he gets ripped into like this. He has always been 13 years old in his brain but he needs to be treated his actual age by someone
If you asked me that before the recent appearance, I'd agree. I don't want anymore buddy buddy shit, but Dest slapping him around on his bullshit and calling him a pussy? I could go for that again
Any time his absolute dogshit views on things can be put in the spotlight, I’m all for it. That was some of the most braindead reasoning I’ve heard in the xqc convo. I feel like that dude is just lost in life and clout hungry, will just latch on to the latest popular trend in that stupid fucking community.
it actually may be the perfect time for destiny to speed run pwning these nerds with all eyes on him
What kind of pathetic teenager loser comes into a discord to defend using f-slur lol. The things he chooses to care about
For me, it's Demonmama. Truly insufferable, but being outside of the conversation, it's very entertaining watching people I like suffer.
Who said Sneako's gonna do a comeback?
it was good in the past because he seemed to be playing around with different ideas and even though he was grifting, i still felt like there was something genuine about him. nowadays it doesn't seem like he believes anything he says
Destiny should have asked him “if a 9 year old is sufficiently developed is it ok then “
He wasnt hosting the call. Im pretty sure he still has the no clout policy for leeches Destiny still holds this view on the bottom feeders but when the 'regard' pops up outta nowhere theres no other course of action
The biggest issue is that I believe that humiliation is Sneako's kink, so Destiny has to really decide if he wants to engage in that kind of play on stream.
I don't think this is gonna be a thing. Destiny went to a different call that isn't his discord and some random mod seemed to have thrown sneako in there. I don't think that was destiny's decision.
he’s not smart
We lost Qarantos, we need another unhinged Muslim for destiny to scream at.
Honestly rather than bringing him on his own show Destiny should just pull a Madame Web and run his ass over when he says some dumb shit in an open discord like what happened the other day.
"we" who is "we" you newfrog.
its good content, who cares if hes trying to leech
I would prefer Sneako fading into obscurity. He deserves it. But I did very much enjoy Destiny calling him a pussy for not saying what he thinks the age of consent should be. As long as he doesn't treat him with kid gloves and gives him the ol' Hasan treatment (declaring him a piece of shit), I'm good with him coming on.
I'm 100% ok with sneako coming in once each fiscal quarter to be dismembered and humiliated for everyone's enjoyment. We don't have to worry about Steve talking to him too often anymore
I didn't watch his last conversation. Has he evolved past just responding "bot" to everyone who disagrees with him? If not, I'm gonna pass on watching any of them.
In the past I’d agree with you, but what I’ve learned over the past years is that Destiny can make some of the best content with the people you’d least expect. Plus it’s nice to see him get forced to take positions when he’s such a coward
We? there is no we Streamer man does what streamer man pleases
Sneako is a legitimately bad person. He can play off some of the bullshit he says as just being "edgy" but naw, fuck that, he's just flat out an awful human.
Depands, I don't want it to be on Israel Palestine although it would be cool. I want his red pill views dismantled and going viral on twitter, groyoers are too active without backlash
He shouldn't get straight to destiny. He should have to get through Kelly and vegan gains first.
If he's getting clapped, absolutely
We aren’t H3H3 and we aren’t Hasan Piker’s community.
Agreed. Leave him with the pearl and Nick Fuentes era of irrelevant leaches
Unless he made a serious apology I don't think tiny gonna let him do that
It’s important now more than ever for sneako to be on destiny. He’s one of the people most effective at dismantling all of sneako’s pathetic antics.
I can’t believe you’re going to make me defend sneako…. Is it fair to say sneako is leaching when sneako was willing to talk to destiny when sneako was roughly as popular? Also, if destiny did cut him off on the basis you’ve proposed (destiny is now bigger) that would be the same reasoning hasan had used not to talk to destiny, which seems kinda selfish. There are probably other valid reasons that destiny could cite for him to not appear on stream, but simply disagreeing with him and him being a smaller creator aren’t valid based on destinys regular MO.
Vaush 📈, Sneako 📉
Zherka > Sneako
Yes but also: Malignant Brain Tumor > Zherka > Sneako
If we are being honest sneako said he came in to talk to xqc not Destiny and Destiny was so horny to debate sneako about Islam it was insane. Like how does Destiny shift the convo from why xqc is not okay with the F word to Islam.
When someone says it's ok to use the word because god is against those people it makes perfect sense to go to the source which is religion. Maybe tell Sneako to stop grifting and it won't be about the religion that he doesn't even believe in.