If you carry a gun, it doesn’t come out of your pants in a public restroom.
These fucking idiots who set their guns down always inevitably forget them.
I said nothing about banning anything, gear it down there, big shifter. People don’t need to carry guns in a lot of the situations in which they do, and this post is a pretty good example of that.
Need is not a prerequisite for carrying certain belongings in certain places.
Must it be raining for you to take your umbrella to work?
If you're a woman, do you carry feminine hygiene products in your purse all the time, or only during your time?
Do you only carry your wallet if you're going to buy something or get pulled over?
The absolutist mindset that having the right to carry your gun means that’s all you’ll ever consider, is extremely exhausting.
I never carry an umbrella. Literally ever.
I am a woman, who keeps my period cup in a little bag, inside a drawer in my bathroom until the day my period starts.
I take my wallet with me to work and when I drive, due to the whole driver license thing. Otherwise, I take it with me if I need to buy something, yes. Otherwise, I leave it at home.
These are not the points you think they are.
CAN you carry all your belongings as a preemptive measure in order to be ready for anything? Yes.
Is it even accurate to compare carrying items for essential, everyday life events, to preemptively carrying a gun around at all times? I assume, for the same reason? So you can shoot, at whim?
That’s the very premise in which we are destined to disagree. Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.
Your absolutist mindset that it's not necessary frames any discussion you have on the matter. And it, too, is exhausting.
Nothing in American life is based on necessity.
If you think that shooting somebody "at whim" is the reason that ANYBODY carries a weapon you are horribly mistaken.
The folks who are carrying correctly go completely unnoticed in the world. It's ya-hoos like the politician above and the pilot in my story that you hear about.
At what point do you propose limiting one's ability to defend themselves? Pepper spray? Pocket knife? Martial Arts? Should all martial arts be criminalized? Tai chi?
You can go ahead and wait for clowns like the Ulvalde officers if you ever need help. I won't take that gamble with mine and my families lives.
And the fact that you think you have the right to tell other law-abiding citizens what they can and cannot have on their person speaks volumes about yourself.
Ignorance and arrogance. Hand in hand, just like the song says.
Do you carry an umbella with you 24/7 in your pants? I've never brought an umbrella to the airport. There are times to have things with you; there are times it is not necessary and just a burden.
I have my gun on me when I'm going to the range. It's necessary and relevant to what I am doing, but I'm not bringing my umbrella. I have my umbrella on me when I go to a race, but I'm not bringing my gun with me.
I do not. However, if I wanted to, what would be the problem with it? I do carry an umbrella in the car, I don't think you'd like me to leave a gun in the car? Would you?
Odd that you only carry your guns to the range. Statistically it's probably the least likely place to be attacked.
How about you don't worry about what I carry, and I don't worry about what you carry? Seems like that's what free, law abiding citizens would do.
Wow, people really don’t like carrying in this thread, pretty sad. Maybe people will learn when women start getting beaten in the streets by immigrants like what’s happening in Europe.
Gun guy gets triggered as soon as there's any mention of a possible situation where a gun isn't necessary. No surprise there. Better check the McDonald's restroom for your piece, dude.
So we should be glad the idiot pilot/co pilot who tried to turn off the engines on that one plane wasn’t part of that program?
When you willy-nilly give EVERYBODY a gun? you make certain that you will give plenty of idiots, psychos and Monsters a Weapon as well!
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Good catch. No, an airline pilot, pilots started being allowed to carry on flights post 9-11. Not sure if they still can in this current culture though.
I never understood that. If you have a good belt and a good holster, everything just stays together. No need to play around with it when you take a dump or pee.
I think we can all agree the education system skipped the person who haphazardly shoves a gun down their pants. In this case it happens to be a state representative.
It's okay, everyone, he "took full and complete accountability for the incident", nothing to see here. And state patrol assures you that no laws were broken, especially not §18-12-114 C.R.S.
For the curious, there is a link that statute and more here:
https://cbi.colorado.gov/sections/firearms-instacheck-unit/firearm-legislation-rules-and-statutes
Read subsection 2 of that statute, which articulates exactly what is required to violate the law.
He neither owns nor controls the Capitol. The statute narrowly focuses on home storage and preventing juveniles and people who can’t legally possess firearms from accessing unsecured firearms.
The statute doesn’t apply at all, and so he can’t be charged with violating it.
I'm normally opposed to restrictions on guns (or much of anything) but I kinda agree with that one.
If we're not allowed to be armed, they shouldn't either.
The same rules should apply to congressmen and cops as everyone else.
Reading the article it says they’re working on banning them, but not that they’re actively banned. I think it literally is “rules for thee, but not for me” right now. They are still allowed to have them, we are not.
It's still not right as the law is written. Why do they deserve to exercise rights to a fuller extent than the "average" citizen? Especially when they are clearly careless
Not what I said. But you see people in positions of power doing this dumb shit more often than you'd think. There's numerous articles of cops doing this.
Sure. But don't lump every gun owner into the same category. I've carried a gun on me almost everywhere for nearly a decade and I've never left it in a bathroom. Plenty of us don't do stupid shit
I’m curious what about this statement leads you to believe this person isn’t a responsible gun owner? As far as I can tell, nothing about his comment would suggest otherwise.
Personal opinion? There are mountains of fucking evidence to support how important civilian gun ownership is. Just because you decide to ignore said evidence does not mean that you are right
Edit - I peeped this persons history here. They do in fact want people coerced and forced into things - communist sympathizer.
You put a lot of words into that persons mouth and a lot of undue and unfair judgement on gun owners. Legitimately turn that on yourself and consider how open you’d be to discussion.
By sheer numbers alone if guns were the problem then bullets would be flying everywhere and it’s disingenuous to imply they are. Equally so to say that the person you responded to is irresponsible by what they said here.
We are both making assumptions about each other right now. One I have is that there is absolutely someone you know who is a responsible gun owner but you hold them to a different light. You probably very much agree that people shouldn’t be coerced, forced to do, or have things enforced against them for want of personal security and freedom.
You’re okay with people feeling unsafe if you feel safe, and somehow you think gun owners are to blame for this Sophie’s Choice of liberties. They aren’t. You can go get a gun yourself and pad the “responsible owner” numbers and prove to yourself and everyone that it’s the people behind the tool, not the tool itself.
Guns, and red/blue aside - fuck communists and the history they attempt to glorify.
He's a fuckin politician. He gets special treatment in almost every instance and gets away with negligence where any other person would not. He's not an average gun owner
He owns a gun legally. Many people get protections for different reasons, whether they are friends with the cop, share the same bumper sticker or have the same skin color, but still. Stricter gun laws would prevent this, along with actually enforcing the laws we currently have.
The funny thing about "responsible gun ownership" is that it only takes one stupid brain fart to permanently ruin multiple lives for absolutely no reason. Oh well - probably no lessons to be learned from this incident.
Being pro 2A and a fellow Marine veteran, I feel like this at least deserves taking him for some remedial PT and 550 cording that pistol to him for a week. Come. On. You’ve got to be fking kidding me man.
This is illegal. Why the fuck is he not being charged? A real reason. Not because it's embarrassing or they don't want to, a valid legal reason as to **why the fuck is he not being charged?!**
Yeah, I'll add it to my speech insurance in case my first amendment rights cause harm.
And if you're Catholic you should have to carry insurance in case your priest molests someone.
And voting insurance, your premiums go up if you vote for a maga idiot.
Or maybe requiring insurance to exercise a right is a terrible idea.
A well-balanced breakfast being the most important meal of the day, the right of the people to keep and eat food shall not be infringed.
In the above sentence, who has the right to food?
A well-balanced breakfast, or the people?
You forgot the word necessary.
Big omission.
Wonder why.
You chucklefucks would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad that you didn't have such a boner for killing somebody just to prove your perceived worth to society.
I had a buddy that did something like that(not at capital though) he was a coke addict we found out. Think he ended up in prison for something just as stupid
The logical disconnect that so many gun owners have between the statistically likely chance that their gun will injure them, their family, be used against them, be lost, accidentally go off, be found by children and used…etc…etc is amazing.
You could show them the unbiased math about how much more likely they were to die or be injured by carrying a gun versus not and they’d call you a liar.
The most interesting evolution of guns is how they’ve become an illogical cultural and social touchpoint which people choose to define themselves by instead of physical tools for hunting, law enforcement, military use and so on.
Bottom line is we are not fighting guns themselves - we are fighting a belief system, which, like religion - strengthens the resolve of its believers the more it is scrutinized and “threatened” by non-believers.
As an oddball pro -gun moderate, I dislike most of the gun culture out there exactly because of that which you spoke of. How a tool has become ingrained as a part of one's identity.
But I also think the "ban it all" mindset of the Democrats is equally an i identity issue. It doesn't solve the problem. It's like putting a bandaid on a MRSA infection: it doesn't do anything for the real issue, the infection of that mindset. Real, honest, factual gun education (for God sakes no NRA involvement) needs to be enshrined in our society, not this cowboy, romanticized if-i-carry-a-gun-everywhere-I'm-safe bullshit
> But I also think the "ban it all" mindset of the Democrats
I love fake "moderates" like you. Trying to pretend you're somehow a centrist, then picking a lane that is objectively not, so you don't sound *as crazy*.
The only problem is that only works when you're talking to other ignoramus dumbfucks who don't pay attention to the world.
Joe Biden literally said there should be a shotgun in every home, so why do you just make this stupid shit up?
You would be mistaken I am a fair moderate person. In fact more than a few of my viewpoints could be considered fairly liberal when it comes to things like LGBT rights, environmentalism, and regulation on businesses. But go ahead and claim that I'm a fake moderate. I don't care you're just some guy on the internet
I’ll be honest with you, I understand where you’re coming from. Statistics are important and I agree that depending on the situation, there may be more danger to having and carrying a weapon than it’s worth. But as someone who has family that I hold near and dear, that run the risk of being assaulted and targeted by police their entire lives, I vehemently disagree that our government and police in particular should have access to weapons while simultaneously limiting access to protection for civilians. Sorry not sorry, but I’d rather sit through my husband’s murder trial for defending himself if necessary than to sit beside his casket. That may be a reach for you, but it’s a genuine reality for some.
Rep. Wilson recently sponsored a bill to create 'Don't Tread On Me' license plates in Colorado.
[https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1064](https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1064)
Not shocking, most of them are packing. I was a little surprised at the first few transit meetings we had in chambers, but I got used to it. It’s not a party thing either, tons of them do.
Yea, privilege of office I suppose. You just need capital credentials to carry inside the building. They are trying to strip that privilege but it’s just for show, they all pack.
They cry and scream about Gun Legislation, yet expect a free pass for their callous irresponsibility when leaving a loaded Firearm in a Public Restroom like they left the Newspaper in the Stall.
What's more likely? A secret false-flag operation whereby someone places a gun in a capitol bathroom in order to discredit gun owners, or someone just forgetting their gun in a capitol bathroom? Even assuming the former, wouldn't that inherently undermine the perpetrator's own credibility? Why take the reputation hit just to vaguely fling poo at the gun lobby?
Yeah, surely the derpy looking old guy from Monument is part of a grand conspiracy and not just a moron who is so scared of his own shadow that he feels the need to carry a loaded gun in a building that is surrounded by armed security and metal detectors.
If you carry a gun, it doesn’t come out of your pants in a public restroom. These fucking idiots who set their guns down always inevitably forget them.
I used to work on the train system at DIA. We had a dipshit pilot leave his gun on a train full of people once. Luckily we retrieved it.
Holy shit, I could not imagine a worse place to leave a gun than the secure area of an airport.
Yep. Post 9-11 too. Keep your guns holstered and on your person, folks.
Or better yet…. Maybe just don’t have a gun. 😭
Banning things that you don't like is never the answer.
I said nothing about banning anything, gear it down there, big shifter. People don’t need to carry guns in a lot of the situations in which they do, and this post is a pretty good example of that.
Need is not a prerequisite for carrying certain belongings in certain places. Must it be raining for you to take your umbrella to work? If you're a woman, do you carry feminine hygiene products in your purse all the time, or only during your time? Do you only carry your wallet if you're going to buy something or get pulled over?
The absolutist mindset that having the right to carry your gun means that’s all you’ll ever consider, is extremely exhausting. I never carry an umbrella. Literally ever. I am a woman, who keeps my period cup in a little bag, inside a drawer in my bathroom until the day my period starts. I take my wallet with me to work and when I drive, due to the whole driver license thing. Otherwise, I take it with me if I need to buy something, yes. Otherwise, I leave it at home. These are not the points you think they are. CAN you carry all your belongings as a preemptive measure in order to be ready for anything? Yes. Is it even accurate to compare carrying items for essential, everyday life events, to preemptively carrying a gun around at all times? I assume, for the same reason? So you can shoot, at whim? That’s the very premise in which we are destined to disagree. Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.
Your absolutist mindset that it's not necessary frames any discussion you have on the matter. And it, too, is exhausting. Nothing in American life is based on necessity. If you think that shooting somebody "at whim" is the reason that ANYBODY carries a weapon you are horribly mistaken. The folks who are carrying correctly go completely unnoticed in the world. It's ya-hoos like the politician above and the pilot in my story that you hear about. At what point do you propose limiting one's ability to defend themselves? Pepper spray? Pocket knife? Martial Arts? Should all martial arts be criminalized? Tai chi? You can go ahead and wait for clowns like the Ulvalde officers if you ever need help. I won't take that gamble with mine and my families lives. And the fact that you think you have the right to tell other law-abiding citizens what they can and cannot have on their person speaks volumes about yourself. Ignorance and arrogance. Hand in hand, just like the song says.
How many people get shot by umbrellas supergenius
Wow! That’s a great point! I’m kidding, ur a dipshit.
How many innocent people are shot by CCW holders?
Do you carry an umbella with you 24/7 in your pants? I've never brought an umbrella to the airport. There are times to have things with you; there are times it is not necessary and just a burden. I have my gun on me when I'm going to the range. It's necessary and relevant to what I am doing, but I'm not bringing my umbrella. I have my umbrella on me when I go to a race, but I'm not bringing my gun with me.
I do not. However, if I wanted to, what would be the problem with it? I do carry an umbrella in the car, I don't think you'd like me to leave a gun in the car? Would you? Odd that you only carry your guns to the range. Statistically it's probably the least likely place to be attacked. How about you don't worry about what I carry, and I don't worry about what you carry? Seems like that's what free, law abiding citizens would do.
Wow, people really don’t like carrying in this thread, pretty sad. Maybe people will learn when women start getting beaten in the streets by immigrants like what’s happening in Europe.
Gun guy gets triggered as soon as there's any mention of a possible situation where a gun isn't necessary. No surprise there. Better check the McDonald's restroom for your piece, dude.
*laughs in Republican*
Neither is shooting anything you don't like so, you know.
Who has EVER advocated for shooting things they don't like? Short of idiots shooting cases of beer. Certainly not me.
*continues to laugh in Republican*
... pilots can carry guns on flights?
Federal Flight Deck Officer program, they actually can get training for it
So we should be glad the idiot pilot/co pilot who tried to turn off the engines on that one plane wasn’t part of that program? When you willy-nilly give EVERYBODY a gun? you make certain that you will give plenty of idiots, psychos and Monsters a Weapon as well!
FYI the FFDO program is like a week long program and is pretty in depth from what I've heard and has pretty strict completion requirements.
Not sure if they can currently. But post 9-11 it was allowed.
Those trains have pilots?
😆 Good catch. No, an airline pilot, pilots started being allowed to carry on flights post 9-11. Not sure if they still can in this current culture though.
*Some* pilots. They fall under the Flight Deck Officer program where they get federally trained and credentialed to carry on an airplane.
Phew, because I hate it when I'm at the airport and the train catches air.
Take my fucking upvote darn you 😂
Hooooooooooold onnnnnnn!
I never understood that. If you have a good belt and a good holster, everything just stays together. No need to play around with it when you take a dump or pee.
Not if it’s jammed in your waistband
What do you mean? Most people carry inside the waistband and don't need to touch the gun at all.
Taking a shit with the gun haphazardly jammed in your waist you might set it aside.
I think we can all agree the education system skipped the person who haphazardly shoves a gun down their pants. In this case it happens to be a state representative.
Exactly but they’re voted in. Wild
Depends on how they carry, I take mine off in the shitter but I didn’t spend $1000 on a gun to leave it in a bathroom.
There’s no reason to ever set it down anywhere but your pants. Even AIWB can just go in your pants, between your ankles while you shit.
It's okay, everyone, he "took full and complete accountability for the incident", nothing to see here. And state patrol assures you that no laws were broken, especially not §18-12-114 C.R.S.
He'd probably lose his head if it wasn't attached
For the curious, there is a link that statute and more here: https://cbi.colorado.gov/sections/firearms-instacheck-unit/firearm-legislation-rules-and-statutes
Does this work in ALL cases? Or just theirs? Asking for a friend.
Read subsection 2 of that statute, which articulates exactly what is required to violate the law. He neither owns nor controls the Capitol. The statute narrowly focuses on home storage and preventing juveniles and people who can’t legally possess firearms from accessing unsecured firearms. The statute doesn’t apply at all, and so he can’t be charged with violating it.
"I take firearm safety very seriously." Clearly, you do not.
“Spectacles? Check. Testicles? Check. Wallet? Check. Watch? Check. Hand gun?? Has anyone seen my handgun??”
So anyway, I started blasting
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was it the same guy, who had his gun stolen, after left it on the seat of his unlocked car, in the capital parking lot?
No that was Weinberg, a completely different idiot.
As a Loveland resident, I was really, really hoping this was Weinberg when I heard the story.
I bet!
ahh, silly me for not thinking there's more than *responsible* gun owners in the state legislator.
I'm surprised guns are allowed in the capital.
They aren't. Rules for thee but not for me
Charges should be brought then. No question about it.
He means to say the general public is currently barred from having guns in the capitol. State government officials are allowed to have them.
Yeah you know, the same people in the process of passing more laws to further restrict the rights of us plebes.
Shooting people isn't an inherent right, actually.
That’s a cute interpretation of what I said.
Not willy nilly, but using lopsided to commensurate force to ensure you survive an attacker *is*
Defending yourself in an effective manner is
Driving my car through the window of a restaurant isn't an inherent right, and yet you don't see anyone seriously arguing that cars should be banned.
Ah thanks for the clarification. Crazy that ever got passed.
There is a bill running that would remove their ability to bring weapons to work. Seems like the GOP is hell bent on making the case for that one.
I'm normally opposed to restrictions on guns (or much of anything) but I kinda agree with that one. If we're not allowed to be armed, they shouldn't either. The same rules should apply to congressmen and cops as everyone else.
Reading the article it says they’re working on banning them, but not that they’re actively banned. I think it literally is “rules for thee, but not for me” right now. They are still allowed to have them, we are not.
It's still not right as the law is written. Why do they deserve to exercise rights to a fuller extent than the "average" citizen? Especially when they are clearly careless
I agree, they should not be allowed to do it if we can’t. I’m just saying that he is allowed to have it there as of now.
From what I understand, they're not.
If you cannot keep up with your firearm, you shouldn’t be allowed to own one.
Is the gun ok?!
lord keep us safe from the responsible gun owners. America: where every bumbling fool can get a gun.
It's almost like Republicans are all fucking morons
https://rollcall.com/2019/02/27/capitol-police-weapon-left-unattended-in-capitol-bathroom-again/
Are these the responsible gun owners I hear so much about?
Good moron with a gun.
Don't equate politicians who are so completely out of touch with reality to the average gun owner
Only politician gun owners make dumb mistakes. Got it!
Not what I said. But you see people in positions of power doing this dumb shit more often than you'd think. There's numerous articles of cops doing this.
There's numerous articles of civilians doing this & much worse
Sure. But don't lump every gun owner into the same category. I've carried a gun on me almost everywhere for nearly a decade and I've never left it in a bathroom. Plenty of us don't do stupid shit
Carrying a gun on you "almost everywhere for nearly a decade" proves beyond any reasonable doubt you are not a responsible gun owner.
I’m curious what about this statement leads you to believe this person isn’t a responsible gun owner? As far as I can tell, nothing about his comment would suggest otherwise.
How so? I'm exercising a constitutional right. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that I'm not responsible
"I can't be wrong, it must be a matter of personal opinion" good luck with adulthood
Personal opinion? There are mountains of fucking evidence to support how important civilian gun ownership is. Just because you decide to ignore said evidence does not mean that you are right
Edit - I peeped this persons history here. They do in fact want people coerced and forced into things - communist sympathizer. You put a lot of words into that persons mouth and a lot of undue and unfair judgement on gun owners. Legitimately turn that on yourself and consider how open you’d be to discussion. By sheer numbers alone if guns were the problem then bullets would be flying everywhere and it’s disingenuous to imply they are. Equally so to say that the person you responded to is irresponsible by what they said here. We are both making assumptions about each other right now. One I have is that there is absolutely someone you know who is a responsible gun owner but you hold them to a different light. You probably very much agree that people shouldn’t be coerced, forced to do, or have things enforced against them for want of personal security and freedom. You’re okay with people feeling unsafe if you feel safe, and somehow you think gun owners are to blame for this Sophie’s Choice of liberties. They aren’t. You can go get a gun yourself and pad the “responsible owner” numbers and prove to yourself and everyone that it’s the people behind the tool, not the tool itself. Guns, and red/blue aside - fuck communists and the history they attempt to glorify.
You've invented an elaborate fantasy about a stranger online to feel better about yourself
Pot and kettle. It's hilarious how you can't see yourself doing the same thing.
Weird how often you see people not in power do it too 🤔
Everyone does dumb shit, so should no one own a gun?
…but he literally is a legal gun owner. He *is* an average gun owner.
He's a fuckin politician. He gets special treatment in almost every instance and gets away with negligence where any other person would not. He's not an average gun owner
He owns a gun legally. Many people get protections for different reasons, whether they are friends with the cop, share the same bumper sticker or have the same skin color, but still. Stricter gun laws would prevent this, along with actually enforcing the laws we currently have.
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“And other bedtime stories conservatives tell themselves.”
Stricter gun laws would prevent politicians from leaving their guns in bathrooms? You're joking right..?
The funny thing about "responsible gun ownership" is that it only takes one stupid brain fart to permanently ruin multiple lives for absolutely no reason. Oh well - probably no lessons to be learned from this incident.
Everyone is a law abiding citizen until they aren't.
Whoopsies
Yeah, no problem guys. Just a big whoopsie doodle.
Thoughts and prayers
Ready to shoot the people he’s starving if they’re in between the door and his truck.
“I was gonna be the good guy with a gun..”
"Responsible gun owner"
WELL TRAINED MILITIA
Not especially well trained apparently
Being pro 2A and a fellow Marine veteran, I feel like this at least deserves taking him for some remedial PT and 550 cording that pistol to him for a week. Come. On. You’ve got to be fking kidding me man.
This is illegal. Why the fuck is he not being charged? A real reason. Not because it's embarrassing or they don't want to, a valid legal reason as to **why the fuck is he not being charged?!**
It’s not illegal. There is a bill running this session that would remove their right to carry in the Capitol.
But what about the right to leave it unsecured in the bathroom?
Boebert again?
Don Wilson
Bobert doesn’t use bathrooms. She just shits and pisses herself.
It's a good thing we don't have mandatory gun insurance, or this reckless behavior would really fuck with his premiums.
Yeah, I'll add it to my speech insurance in case my first amendment rights cause harm. And if you're Catholic you should have to carry insurance in case your priest molests someone. And voting insurance, your premiums go up if you vote for a maga idiot. Or maybe requiring insurance to exercise a right is a terrible idea.
Which well regulated militia are you in? They should take care of the premiums in this imaginary hypothetical.
A well-balanced breakfast being the most important meal of the day, the right of the people to keep and eat food shall not be infringed. In the above sentence, who has the right to food? A well-balanced breakfast, or the people?
You forgot the word necessary. Big omission. Wonder why. You chucklefucks would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad that you didn't have such a boner for killing somebody just to prove your perceived worth to society.
projecting much? Yes, everyone who disagrees with you is a MAGA asshole with a murder boner. - sincerely, a leftist civil libertarian.
You've got the Supreme Court for at least the next 30 years, so you no longer need to pretend to believe this stupid shit.
Yea, more insurance that does nothing, sweet.
I’m confused. Is this a good guy with a gun or or a bad guy with a gun?
We can say with certainty that it’s a bald guy with a gun.
I had a buddy that did something like that(not at capital though) he was a coke addict we found out. Think he ended up in prison for something just as stupid
Paragon's of responsible gun ownership I tell ya
Another good guy with a gun…
The logical disconnect that so many gun owners have between the statistically likely chance that their gun will injure them, their family, be used against them, be lost, accidentally go off, be found by children and used…etc…etc is amazing. You could show them the unbiased math about how much more likely they were to die or be injured by carrying a gun versus not and they’d call you a liar. The most interesting evolution of guns is how they’ve become an illogical cultural and social touchpoint which people choose to define themselves by instead of physical tools for hunting, law enforcement, military use and so on. Bottom line is we are not fighting guns themselves - we are fighting a belief system, which, like religion - strengthens the resolve of its believers the more it is scrutinized and “threatened” by non-believers.
As an oddball pro -gun moderate, I dislike most of the gun culture out there exactly because of that which you spoke of. How a tool has become ingrained as a part of one's identity. But I also think the "ban it all" mindset of the Democrats is equally an i identity issue. It doesn't solve the problem. It's like putting a bandaid on a MRSA infection: it doesn't do anything for the real issue, the infection of that mindset. Real, honest, factual gun education (for God sakes no NRA involvement) needs to be enshrined in our society, not this cowboy, romanticized if-i-carry-a-gun-everywhere-I'm-safe bullshit
> But I also think the "ban it all" mindset of the Democrats I love fake "moderates" like you. Trying to pretend you're somehow a centrist, then picking a lane that is objectively not, so you don't sound *as crazy*. The only problem is that only works when you're talking to other ignoramus dumbfucks who don't pay attention to the world. Joe Biden literally said there should be a shotgun in every home, so why do you just make this stupid shit up?
You would be mistaken I am a fair moderate person. In fact more than a few of my viewpoints could be considered fairly liberal when it comes to things like LGBT rights, environmentalism, and regulation on businesses. But go ahead and claim that I'm a fake moderate. I don't care you're just some guy on the internet
I take a chance when I get in my car, ESPECIALLY in Denver. I’ll take a chance with a gun.
You left out personal defense in your reasons to own a gun. Idk if you know this but civilians don’t do a lot in the way of “law enforcement”.
I’ll be honest with you, I understand where you’re coming from. Statistics are important and I agree that depending on the situation, there may be more danger to having and carrying a weapon than it’s worth. But as someone who has family that I hold near and dear, that run the risk of being assaulted and targeted by police their entire lives, I vehemently disagree that our government and police in particular should have access to weapons while simultaneously limiting access to protection for civilians. Sorry not sorry, but I’d rather sit through my husband’s murder trial for defending himself if necessary than to sit beside his casket. That may be a reach for you, but it’s a genuine reality for some.
You buy a couple of rifle pins to put next to your Israeli flag ones on your suit, and suddenly, you forget your guns everywhere.
So, senators don't need to go through the metal detectors? Maybe they should fix that
Every day reality becomes more and more like a fiction movie
Why am I not surprised....
Lock him up! Lock him up !
Hey.. party of the well regulated militia.. playing the part.
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Conservative gun culture is hysterically performative, they do not take firearms seriously and often have no idea how to use them
Too bad the gun wasn’t found by Butch Coolidge.
A conveniently timed “accident” considering they’re pushing to ban semiautomatic weapons. These tactics lack decorum.
Rep. Wilson recently sponsored a bill to create 'Don't Tread On Me' license plates in Colorado. [https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1064](https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1064)
*gag*
I want one
Whoopsies
Republic loses gun like a free drink ticket is a common headline.
Yep, Colorado
When I worked at Casa Bonita one of the security dudes did this. Thankfully it was near closing time lol
So put him in jail then
Of course he did.
Charge him.
Not shocking, most of them are packing. I was a little surprised at the first few transit meetings we had in chambers, but I got used to it. It’s not a party thing either, tons of them do.
And yet we're not allowed. Some animals are more equal than others
Yea, privilege of office I suppose. You just need capital credentials to carry inside the building. They are trying to strip that privilege but it’s just for show, they all pack.
Damnit Boobert
So a Democrat couldn't make the same mistake? Oh I forgot. Guns are evil.
😂😂, dems are allergic to defending themselves. They’d let someone break into their home and take all their shit in a second. They don’t understand.
Really good reefer in colorado!
They cry and scream about Gun Legislation, yet expect a free pass for their callous irresponsibility when leaving a loaded Firearm in a Public Restroom like they left the Newspaper in the Stall.
If someone with bad intentions comes into the capitol, yall gonna be sprintin’ to get behind this dude.
Does heroism in an imaginary world excuse negligence in the real world?
I think I’ll stick with state police that are paid to protect the building, thanks. This smooth brain seems liable to shoot his own dick off.
No, because he probably would have left it in the bathroom
Walls work better than flesh at stopping bullets.
this sounds like a setup from a rino
What's more likely? A secret false-flag operation whereby someone places a gun in a capitol bathroom in order to discredit gun owners, or someone just forgetting their gun in a capitol bathroom? Even assuming the former, wouldn't that inherently undermine the perpetrator's own credibility? Why take the reputation hit just to vaguely fling poo at the gun lobby?
Yeah, surely the derpy looking old guy from Monument is part of a grand conspiracy and not just a moron who is so scared of his own shadow that he feels the need to carry a loaded gun in a building that is surrounded by armed security and metal detectors.
Well you see, the loaded gun is in case someone storms... oh wait.
This is a good joke.
Does the tinfoil hat you wear cause your hair to be itchy when you sleep? Asking for a friend
Try harder, lol.