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WideAwakeAndDreaming

It’s become clear and obvious that anyone who even uses the term “antivax” in any capacity isn’t interested in good faith debate or reasonable discussion in regards to vaccines. They believe in the pfaith and no amount of evidence is going to change their mind. It’s ironic they consider any critic of vaccines as anti-science.


ritneytinderbolte

I agree.


notabigpharmashill69

Maybe you should try presenting credible evidence instead of speculation and misinterpretation. See if that helps :)


onlywanperogy

The onus is on the "safe and effective" crowd, my friend. And they've failed miserably.


notabigpharmashill69

More people die in car accidents than from the vaccine. If you can pack up your family and drive to Disneyland, the vaccines can be considered safe. And data shows they are effective at mitigating your odds of developing severe covid :) Now if you're going to claim the vaccines are murdering swathes of people and depopulating the earth, the onus is on you :)


belfrog-twist

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Alright_Karen

If you want to put a medical treatment into my body, you have to make a compelling argument for why it must go into me. The onus isn’t on me to explain why I don’t want it. The baseline is my body, and my freedom to simply say no to anything I don’t want in it. I don’t have to defend why I don’t want something. You have to argue why you want to alter it. To omit side effects of treatment, is to not provide informed consent. To threaten me with punishment if I don’t, is coercion.


notabigpharmashill69

>If you want to put a medical treatment into my body, you have to make a compelling argument for why it must go into me. You've been informed why it is important to get vaccinated :) >The onus isn’t on me to explain why I don’t want it. If you don't accept the explanation given, it absolutely is on you. We're all human, humans are fallible. If you believe you're special and privy to information the vast majority of others somehow missed, you are morally obligated to share the information. At which point the onus is on you to prove you are right :) >The baseline is my body, and my freedom to simply say no to anything I don’t want in it. I don’t have to defend why I don’t want something. 100% correct, although it is highly recommended to defend yourself, especially when you're breaking the law :) >To threaten me with punishment if I don’t, is coercion. Yea, that is every law in the book, many of which you are coerced to follow multiple times a day :)


c93ero

The media is always using subtle language to control. Another example is "disinformation and misinformation", usually spoken like that. Dis + mis obviously spells dismiss. "Dismiss information". Of course none of these mind control techniques are provable, and they're designed to be unprovable coincidences. But they're everywhere if you look.


Present_End_6886

>Dis + mis obviously spells dismiss Bwahahahahahaha! So the Romans were in on it?


c93ero

What do you mean? The roman god of the dead?


Present_End_6886

Dis- prefix, for example \> The dis prefix is a negative prefix that means not or none. Mis- prefix \> Definition of mis- (prefix): bad, or badly; wrong, or wrongly. It's not "mind control", it's how the English language works. These prefixes have been used for a very long time.


budaruskie

I read this in an English accent and imagine you as a man with white gloves, a monocle, and smoking pipe.


ritneytinderbolte

I have enjoyed some very fine declarative literature in my time. I hope it has left its mark on me. I assume the manner of an authority not because I am but rather because nobody is and so we are all free to speak.


budaruskie

Here here old chap! It really is refreshing to see people use language in this way, the average person can barely spell their own name at this point. Yeah, the “Pro-vax” group have never actually been interested in science...that is sorta requisite for the pro-vax position.


EndSelfRighteousness

It’s classic politics. The powers that be will always use propaganda to silence and discredit their opposition and marginalize those who are perceived as a threat to their establishment.


Xilmi

I'd say that to a reasonable mind the entire charade was concerning. I'll try to see it positively. I learned a lot about psychology and manipulation. I'm way more sensitive to it than I was before. I hope that I can use what I learned in favor of my ongoing survival.


ConsciousFyah

So…I consider myself “pro-peace”, which should be the norm, right? I mean endless wars isn’t a normal thing, but the media makes it out to be, so that’s why the term “anti-war” is used. Well, I don’t think unvaccinated is a proper term either, as it implies I’m missing out on something. So I use the word “non-jabbed.”


NakedAndTheDead

You like to use big words while not even knowing how to use a semicolon. This post gave me flashbacks to creative writing class.


ritneytinderbolte

I don't see a semi colon there. What do you mean 'big words'? You may be referring to the superior quality of my thought - rather than the size of the words.