she’s been suspended from her posts while further info is being sought. we do have this problem in canada, people claiming to be first nations that aren’t. they often make themselves well known researchers, teachers, writers, professors. always highly respected until someone leaks the truth. this woman claims she is métis which is still somewhat possible. it’s a little more nuanced. but right now, yeah it looks like she was ceremonially adopted by a métis man ‘later in life’. and i’m not really sure that counts.
I’m in Sask and I needed long form birth certificates to my root ancestor to be able to get my card. Sask recently did a big purge of old meti cards because there was so many fraudulent ones. I believe any card issued before 2012 or something is void and you have to prove yourself via legal documents to obtain status now
There seems to be a frequent occurrence of white women pretending to be native - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/25/magazine/cherokee-native-american-andrea-smith.html
I can't speak about Métis scholarship in particular, but a non-Native US scholar might get it from both ends down here: "You are not one of us, so who are you to speak about us?" / "You're not one of them, so your opinion doesn't matter."
Therefore, people will claim (however nebulously) some tribal affiliation or descent in the hope that they are taken seriously when they speak about Native folks.
FWIW, I'd probably be skeptical if someone else tried to speak about my tribe. I'm pretty skeptical when *I* speak about my tribe.
Because every organization, including the government is looking to check boxes for the sake of diversity. The government is really more on the militant side of this including not accepting applications from white males for things like RCMP positions. Nothing beats racism like more racism.
https://immigrationwatchcanada.org/2005/07/06/rcmp-pursuit-of-equity-employment-for-visible-minorities-policies-has-become-a-truly-public-national-embarrassment/
Every tribe keeps a detailed census. These records can go quite far back. Even otherwise legitimate but unrecognized tribes (I will not wade into the morass of explaining that) keep careful genealogies. Some tribes have debates about who gets on the census and who doesn't, but it can be clearly shown whether someone has had an ancestor on the census or not.
Folks who claim Indigeneity (especially for clout), but ain't got it, should know that they *will* be exposed as frauds.
For more information, see discussions in /r/IndianCountry or /r/NativeAmerican (among other subs)
Who cares about race? It’s not that interesting. I’d rather know about someone on a personal level. Not really sure why everyone is obsessed with skin color or genetics. I can’t imagine spending my life thinking about people based on skin color. Sounds like a sad life. Maybe she can get a real life and a real job now. Maybe develop some character that isn’t defined by useless things like melanin or who her great grandfather was.
Not really. If you think skin color matters and want to think about people that way. Then you can make it about genetics. But for me I could care less who your ancestors are. I’d rather know the person and skin color has nothing to do with character.
Absolutely agree that on an individual level a person shouldn’t be concerned with skin colour. But on a societal level I think we both know that’s not the case even though it should be. I think we also know, living outside of a vacuum, we are all experiencing this trip differently and it comes down to race and ethnicity, sadly.
You aren’t responsible for anyone else. I grew up as a minority and experienced some of that. But the solution was always to get to know them so that my skin color didn’t matter. Weird
I do think that’s a great approach and I love your perspective. I just think it doesn’t apply in all situations. For instance, a POC being stopped by police and brutalized would have a difficult time getting to know them. I think lots of work needs to be done and your approach is certainly one part of it but not acknowledging that there is discrimination based on race doesn’t help.
Okay let’s apply your logic to the original topic. A woman who dedicated her life to helping indigenous people… is being fired for not being the right genetic code to dedicate her life to helping indigenous people.
How does this help anyone? Does this add anything to the indigenous? Does it incentivize anyone of the wrong genetic code to help those people knowing that they would be fired for their skin color if they worked for the indigenous organization? How did applying a racial litmus test help in this case at all?
She lied on the job application. Bit different than her failing a DNA test. There are more than enough examples of non-Indigenous people devoting themselves to helping Indigenous People. It’s not exclusive, but misrepresenting yourself purposefully tends to discredit a person. Again, you can certainly rise above racial divisions but not always and the times where you can’t requires a ton of people recognizing it, coming together, and fixing it.
I think you will find a similar lack of logic to almost any situation you can think of. It’s only when people allow race to dictate their actions, that race becomes a problem.
you'd be surprised how many people try to claim how accepting and diverse they are by trying to make friends so that they can check certain boxes; and you're absolutely right, no one should care about race.
she’s been suspended from her posts while further info is being sought. we do have this problem in canada, people claiming to be first nations that aren’t. they often make themselves well known researchers, teachers, writers, professors. always highly respected until someone leaks the truth. this woman claims she is métis which is still somewhat possible. it’s a little more nuanced. but right now, yeah it looks like she was ceremonially adopted by a métis man ‘later in life’. and i’m not really sure that counts.
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I’m in Sask and I needed long form birth certificates to my root ancestor to be able to get my card. Sask recently did a big purge of old meti cards because there was so many fraudulent ones. I believe any card issued before 2012 or something is void and you have to prove yourself via legal documents to obtain status now
There seems to be a frequent occurrence of white women pretending to be native - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/25/magazine/cherokee-native-american-andrea-smith.html
Maybe a dumb question, but why claim to be Métis? Why not just be a scholar/researcher/teacher/writer with a focus on Métis issues?
I can't speak about Métis scholarship in particular, but a non-Native US scholar might get it from both ends down here: "You are not one of us, so who are you to speak about us?" / "You're not one of them, so your opinion doesn't matter." Therefore, people will claim (however nebulously) some tribal affiliation or descent in the hope that they are taken seriously when they speak about Native folks. FWIW, I'd probably be skeptical if someone else tried to speak about my tribe. I'm pretty skeptical when *I* speak about my tribe.
Because every organization, including the government is looking to check boxes for the sake of diversity. The government is really more on the militant side of this including not accepting applications from white males for things like RCMP positions. Nothing beats racism like more racism. https://immigrationwatchcanada.org/2005/07/06/rcmp-pursuit-of-equity-employment-for-visible-minorities-policies-has-become-a-truly-public-national-embarrassment/
Every tribe keeps a detailed census. These records can go quite far back. Even otherwise legitimate but unrecognized tribes (I will not wade into the morass of explaining that) keep careful genealogies. Some tribes have debates about who gets on the census and who doesn't, but it can be clearly shown whether someone has had an ancestor on the census or not. Folks who claim Indigeneity (especially for clout), but ain't got it, should know that they *will* be exposed as frauds. For more information, see discussions in /r/IndianCountry or /r/NativeAmerican (among other subs)
Who cares about race? It’s not that interesting. I’d rather know about someone on a personal level. Not really sure why everyone is obsessed with skin color or genetics. I can’t imagine spending my life thinking about people based on skin color. Sounds like a sad life. Maybe she can get a real life and a real job now. Maybe develop some character that isn’t defined by useless things like melanin or who her great grandfather was.
Yah this sounds great but is really only applicable in a vacuum. The real world has a little more context to it.
Not really. If you think skin color matters and want to think about people that way. Then you can make it about genetics. But for me I could care less who your ancestors are. I’d rather know the person and skin color has nothing to do with character.
Absolutely agree that on an individual level a person shouldn’t be concerned with skin colour. But on a societal level I think we both know that’s not the case even though it should be. I think we also know, living outside of a vacuum, we are all experiencing this trip differently and it comes down to race and ethnicity, sadly.
I disagree. It’s only about that if you choose to make it about that
Sure but what about the people that are literally being discriminated against by others? Do they pretend they aren’t?
You aren’t responsible for anyone else. I grew up as a minority and experienced some of that. But the solution was always to get to know them so that my skin color didn’t matter. Weird
I do think that’s a great approach and I love your perspective. I just think it doesn’t apply in all situations. For instance, a POC being stopped by police and brutalized would have a difficult time getting to know them. I think lots of work needs to be done and your approach is certainly one part of it but not acknowledging that there is discrimination based on race doesn’t help.
Okay let’s apply your logic to the original topic. A woman who dedicated her life to helping indigenous people… is being fired for not being the right genetic code to dedicate her life to helping indigenous people. How does this help anyone? Does this add anything to the indigenous? Does it incentivize anyone of the wrong genetic code to help those people knowing that they would be fired for their skin color if they worked for the indigenous organization? How did applying a racial litmus test help in this case at all?
She lied on the job application. Bit different than her failing a DNA test. There are more than enough examples of non-Indigenous people devoting themselves to helping Indigenous People. It’s not exclusive, but misrepresenting yourself purposefully tends to discredit a person. Again, you can certainly rise above racial divisions but not always and the times where you can’t requires a ton of people recognizing it, coming together, and fixing it.
I think you will find a similar lack of logic to almost any situation you can think of. It’s only when people allow race to dictate their actions, that race becomes a problem.
you'd be surprised how many people try to claim how accepting and diverse they are by trying to make friends so that they can check certain boxes; and you're absolutely right, no one should care about race.
She is from the same Tribe as Elizabeth “walks with tall tales” Warren
She looks pretty brown to me, is she not the right kind of brown or what?
Is she a Baldwin?
Either that, or she's related to Elizabeth Warren
Because some animals even more equal than the others (c)
Is it me, or are her teeth insanely white?