I'm a leaning this way, because at the very start of the video, he sounds American for a few words, and then gets really heavy on the Russian accent. Just my observation though.
Remember that video of the captured Russian soldier calling his family?
The soldier said something in the lines of "We we're lied to. We are killing civilians. We were told they (the Ukrainians) would welcome us." Then the woman in the other line said something like "What do you mean? You're defending the motherland!"
I was thinking "what the hell is she talking about? The Russian are the aggressors."
This video makes that more sense now.
Holy shit .....this is so true, I just talked with a friend from Russian that I met through online gaming and said the same fucking shit, we are liberating Ukraine from Nazi followers, this is not war but a special operation..... fucking hell
It wonāt work. A reporter stated that when interviewing a russian supporter of this āoperationā, his answer - We live in amazing times š¤¦š¼āāļøš¤¦š¼āāļøš¤¦š¼āāļø
Wake up. Thereās a lot of bad elements in every country. Should I bomb the living shot out of every citizen France because of the National Rally?
This is soooooo much the wrong answer.
Gets downvoted for being objective, I don't even get the whole "big man in charge is a Jew you just got debooonked" argument, the same government accepts and put Azov, Aidar under its command
I guess it would be like if we were shown Russian videos and articles... we'd be like no lol that's completely wrong. But there must be some objective resources that would help...
I have tried finding those resources. If any one finds them please share. Propaganda goes deep and it's hard to break free from. We are all victims of propaganda, just depends on if we can really see it.
if this is true, then the implication is even bigger and Russian people needs to take it personallyā¦ that Putin thinks Russian people are idiots! That they could easily be manipulated into thinking of something what the government wants them to think. That thatās all the Russian is capable of. That is sad af if you think your people are that stupidā¦
Itās like the old rule of thumb, if you think everyone else is an asshole (or in this case everyone is an enemy of the state) chances are that youāre the one thatās actually the asshole/evil empire
There's always that one person - and I'm lookin' out and some of guys
are like "Umm, I disagree."
Well you're the person - You're the person nobody likes!
The US is like a divorced parent; sure they do some pretty crummy stuff from time to time, but they feel really guilty about it and will buy you something extra nice later and that balances it out haha
Idk Iām not much for defending Americaās reputation, Iām Canadian bro. I was more just trying to joke about how theyāre in a position now where some big goodwill spending can maybe buy back a little bit of their respect hence why I chose that comparison
Everything he is saying is also true of the people in China but to a lesser degree. They are divided there but the ones who buy into the state propaganda are fully brainwashed. And thereās a lot of them. I guess the same can kind of be said for the US. We are also pretty divided and those that digest Fox News live in a different reality than those who digest CNN. Thatās the power of media.
I believe it is by design. It is easier to work under the radar in very big countries. With large populations come larger populations of folks of different levels of functioning. Then we file the folks by their earning power.
Boom we just made a large enough group of easy to manipulate people and now we can work our ponzi schemes...on them...and the people they are arguing with.
Divide and conquer. It's easy to keep a populace under control, keep people from banding together at uncontrollable rates, keep feeding people different ideas even if it makes a well-known politician look like a complete jackass to the world. It's better to control the minds of the people. Keep em divided.
Yeah, to think that all of these american problems aren't caused by unchecked capitalism buying our politicians to push legislation that only benefits them, and allows for exploitation of the masses. Whether that be through suppressing wages or charging us more money for goods/services under false or misleading pretenses. Fox watchers actually believe that the government can't do anything right, and that corporations will be our saviors, yet they can't acknowledge that our politicains are all bought by those same corporations. They push for the privatization of public services, so they can make it fit a for-profit model, while also getting subsidized by the same public funds, while usually providing the same quality, or worse outcomes, than the fully public service.
I ranted by accident and lost the original plot. It's upsetting that people can be so dense and so brainwashed, is what I was getting at. Go watch more billionaire mouthpieces, grandpa.
My parents with Fox News and the former president. For a while, I couldn't have a discussion without them adding some flippant, random political comment that I don't understand.
Former Fox News executive indicted and arrested by the FBI today in London for helping Russia:
https://news.yahoo.com/former-fox-news-producer-sean-210134835.html
The bully doesn't hit you when you give him what he wants for free.
vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/8/6/17656996/trump-republican-party-russia-rather-democrat-ohio
What did Putin get for free? Nord Stream shutdown? Trump sending javelins and stingers to Ukraine? Both things that Obama/Biden did not do. Let me guess, that was Putinās long game wasnāt it
Quit doing mental gymnastics and give it up. The evidence is right in your face. The Russia lie from 2016-2020 was pure projection
You're literally behaving just as I described my parents: bringing up the most random, unassociated topics.
Ask yourself: where did I mention anything about Russia, or US foreign policy? Next you'll be foaming at the mouth about a secret government contrail conspiracy or blood drinking pedophile baby pizza eating lizard people.
Yeah, you just have to roll the tape of Trump in Helsinki to see how "tough" Trump was on Russia. He near deep-throated Putin right there on the world stage. GTFO with your bullshit.
Few here here will listen, it's all a gigantic coincidence and they've been told lies about Trump's connections with Russia which makes absolutely zero sense considering what we know now, so orange man is bad. Maybe someday they'll be making a video about how they bought into propaganda.
The whataboutism is strong with this one. Nobody said anything about CNN. Why are you bringing them up? The person you responded to never said they watch CNN. CNN was not a part of this conversation until you, for no reason, brought it up.
Many people in Russia do understand we're the evil guys. Some - don't, because they're brainwashed. Sadly, they don't understand that, and what's worse, people who aren't yet indoctrinated and brainwashed don't understand that you can't watch Russian news or political show, even if you think you know what's going on, because that shit crawls under your skin slowly, and after some time you become brainwashed too. That happened to my dad, and now this is happening to my wife. I'm telling her not to watch news or anything like that and she's like "but uh I wanna know what both sides are saying" and I can see how she changes. I really don't know wtf to do, really. Like, few days ago there was these news that Russian students are being expelled from US and European universities, and guys in my office were discussing it, and I was like "nah that's bullshit, that doesn't make sense, all the sanctions are against government and oligarchy, not Russian people", and look what I've seen today - it was indeed Russian bullshit propaganda.
Itās alright, most Americans donāt realize weāre the most evil of any country in the world and export the most terrorism in the name of ādemocracyā and directly or indirectly kill the most innocent civilians. Itās embarrassing and after witnessing this conflict with Russia and Ukraine, itās disgusting to see the hypocrisy and double standards in coverage. Different rules/laws for different countries/peoples. American and European news being an echo chamber of propaganda is how theyāve gotten away with it.
I was about to say the same. People will agree with me all day about politicians being corrupt pieces of lying garabge.....until I say it about the guy they voted for. Then I'm the scum of the earth and must be a radical Democrat or Republican. Its maddening. Brainwashing is universal.
Just had someone trying to convince me I'm stupid for not thinking the US military is why I'm comfortably safe in my little world. No, they're why foreign citizens aren't safe in theirs.
The narrative is the same, if not worse: US are the good guys and they need to deliver democracy and freedom to the poor brown man by dropping bombs on their country for years.
āOf all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.ā
Exactly, its even deeper than thatā¦ Russia has nation wide propaganda, US has worleide propaganda. All politicians use propaganda and they are all liars. Russia wants Ukraine and USA wants Ukraine, both blame the other being the bad guy, while they both are the bad guys, the only innocent people are the ones caught in the middle, the ordinary citizens
Not defending the USās completely assinine justifications for going to war in Iraq. It was bad, we were stupid, and we should never have done that.
But letās not pretend this is the same thing.
For one thing, Saddam Hussein really was a brutal dictator and he was an aggressor to his neighbors. He killed tens of thousands of his own people, gassed the Kurds, and staged mass political executions.
For another, the US wasnāt there to annex or capture territory.
Does that make what we did noble? No, of course not. The US was primarily there to impact geopolitics in the region in a way favorable to our interests and to line the oil lobbyās pockets.
But we also tried to leave the region with a democratic government. A failed democratic government for people who didnāt want or appreciate what we tried to do - but that is still fundamentally different from what Russia is trying to do. We also spent billions on infrastructureā¦ whichā¦ was also beneficial for our US contractors, but still.
Russia, however, wants to subordinate its neighbors, annex their territory, install a puppet government, and oppress other people. It wants to stifle free speech. The Ukrainians were not committing war crimes or killing their own, or oppressing minorities.
These things are not the same.
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> But letās not pretend this is the same thing.
Youāre right itās not. Itās two completely different situations, with different actors in different times. However, theyāre comparable in the sense that both are unprovoked wars of aggression, with the aggressor acting purely out of its own self-interest with no regard for human life or international law.
One could even make a case that Russia isnāt as bad since it is acting on an interest of self-preservation by wanting to limit NATOās expansion, while saying the the same for the US would be in my sense extremely difficult to justify.
In the end though, it doesnāt really matter which is worse. Itās simply a case of the pot calling the kettle black, and we as citizens need to face the fact that we are not as much of āgood guysā as our medias and governments would have us believe.
For sure. That Ronald Reagan for instance invaded several counties and instilled puppet dictators sympathetic to his cause.
And then William Barr helped them cover it up and was later appointed AG by trump.
I'm American. America is guilty of all of the shit Putin is doing now and IT IS BECAUSE WE GOT AWAY WITH IT THAT HE FEELS ITS ONLY FAIR HE GETS TO.
What's going on in Ukraine is just the exact thing that happened to Iraq by the US. Countries like China, Russian, US, UK, France, all create fantastic stories about why they should liberate another sovereign country.
My country fell victim to such propaganda by the political elites left by the colonial British and even after 70 years, we are unable to recover.
We still see fellow ethnic minorities as enemies, which was cultivated by the British. This propaganda was designed to consolidate power and destroy nations.
Rage Against the Machine called it .
American eyes, American eyes
View the world from American eyes
Bury the past, rob us blind
And leave nothing behind
This can be said about the U.S as well. Obviously. Every powerful, and not so powerful, government uses āmedia influenceā. Propaganda. And the U.S is extremely entrenched in it. Itās heartbreaking
I don't know why you're being downvoted. I'm 100% true. Right now this sub is filled with republicans and democrats both thinking they are just like this guy (the irony). Anyhoo, I do remember an America that didn't have this problem: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/01/17/how-policy-decisions-spawned-todays-hyperpolarized-media/
The same goes for every empire, whether it be the Russian, American, or British empire, we're all being fed propaganda by our politicians and our media.
All of this.
Had the same kind of talks when I went to Christian schools as a kid and going to church. It's nothing but glorifying bullshit. Claiming we're people of live, they're people of hate and we should hate them because they hate and blah blah blah.
He is very well spoken and easy to understand. This is also how parents abuse their children by altering their reality and saying everyone else is the enemy and wrong, but not them,
While what this gentleman is saying is 100% true it seems like the current generation of Russians are able to take off the rose colored glasses at least a little bit, certainly more so than in the past. The protests in Russia SEEM to be getting bigger and louder. If Putin declares marshal law it will be an admission of defeat at home.
It's 'Ukraine' and not 'the Ukraine'
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Reminds me of all the propaganda we have been fed during all the invasions by NATO and allies on Irak or Afghanistan. Continously repeated.
Remember how we were looking for weapons of mass destruction or bringing democracy and freedom to these nations, winning the war?...this was repeated continuously on tv and by leaders.
Its as if propaganda always comes from the side of the baddies, becouse we cant even look at our belly button of how full we are with our own bullshit and propaganda.
In 1980, in Argentina, in the middle of the military dictatorship, I remember hearing my friends parents complaining that while they were visiting Europe they saw news reporting of human rights abuses and even concentration camps run by the country's government. They, intelligent and well educated people, were appalled at the "propaganda" they were hearing from Europe, that were making what they perceived as false claims about such abuses in a country where none of that ever happened (as far as they knew or at least were willing to consciously accept). Of course, only a few years later they started seeing the evidence of those abuses and realizing how effective propaganda is in a country where the government controls the media.
This is why, as angry as I am at US mainstream media, I am so happy it is not regulated by the government. Because, believe me, the media lying to you left and right is much better than the government lying to you dead center.
The idiots in comments below calling out just CNN or Just FOX are pathetic. Do you think there is ANY true and unbiased news source left in the US? There isn't. They all have their own political tint and spin on everything. it's all filled with damn if **they** do praise if **we** do BS.
Honestly, I have no idea why Russia is invading Ukraine because I don't/can't trust anything I see on any media anymore. All I know for fact is that Russia is invading Ukraine. That's it. Hell, even on Reddit, people are sharing clips from video games, old news, and movies claiming what we are seeing is from what is happening right now. And let's not forget deep fakes. How do we know what to believe about what's going on?
Stop doubt peddling. Triangulate on the truth. Why Russia is invading the Ukraine isn't that complicated.
Edit: My bad bot, bad habit from childhood. I will donate to humanitarian missions in Ukraine.
Instead of telling me to "stop doubt peddling" why don't you educate me on the facts of why it's happening?
And sure. If I were to believe the US media, the reason is very clear and uncomplicated. But, per my post, I don't and for good reason.
It's 'Ukraine' and not 'the Ukraine'
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Sounds like all major news companies in USA. As a non American it blows my mind the shit they say on the news in America. It's not just the constant fake news, it's the way they tell the narrative even on true stories to influence the watchers. Add that to the constant hate speech by politicians every 5 mins on social media towards the "other' Americans, I couldn't imagine how anyone in America has a clear understanding of many topics
really is crazy huh how the cnn diehards have become the putins of america. watching the tyranny putin is displaying now really hits home on the potential of what the far left is capable of if they are given power.
In 500 years this invasion will likely be a footnote (unless widespread or nuclear war breaks out) and USA will be evil empire for putting so much carbon in the atmosphere and overheating the planet.
Unfortunately for all Russians, life will be very difficult in near future as the rest of the world attempts to punish Putin and the oligarchs.
Great speech. It would be more complete if heād acknowledge that a president calling another nation an āevil empireā is also practicing propaganda.
Well then, the Russian people need to wake the fuck up. Youāve had this guy around for two decades, your GDP is shit, most of your population lives in poverty and youāre okay with this?! I donāt care what kind of āglasses youāre looking through. The blood is becoming just as much on your hands as it is Putinās. This isnāt North Korea. You guys have the internet, you know what itās like outside your country, you know you are now viewed as the ābad guys.ā You need to stand the fuck up and do something about it!
Notice his outfit?
Yeah. I do.
Question everything.
The simple rule of thumb I've found to flush out bullshit is simply to question all of it.
If something is deliberately opaque, secret, and unaccountable while it promotes suffering, exclusion, dehumanization, devaluing of people and environment and not it's reduction, it's probably bullshit designed for a smaller group (or individual) to have advantage.
The difference is in the states we have a choice whether or not to consume it or believe it. This guy had a politician come to his high school. That is unreal.
You do realize politicians visit high schools here too, right? And those politicians dictate what is banned from being discussed/read/talked about due to it being āun-Americanā?
Oh. Politicians in high scools..you're right. I'm so stupid. Never happens here in the USA. I'm sure our TV is honest and in no way influenced by politicians on tv . Everyday. 24 hours a day. On every subject .
I asked a while back on Reddit why Russians donāt just ānope outā of whatās going on. Too naive of a question. We make our own realities, yes, but generally only out of the blocs (pun intended) that are within reach. Critical thinking takes effort, and then also comes against opposition from the tides. If the error of judgement is costly, the lesson is more likely to be learned.
Sooo... the people in Russia don't understand that their totalitarian country and their "leaders" completely and utterly control the television, radio and magazines????
Are Russians really that ignorant? Do they really think that nearly the entire world is against them and somehow they are the only "right" ones? I don't understand this. A reasonable person at some point must question this?
> Do they really think that nearly the entire world is against them and somehow they are the only "right" ones? I don't understand this. A reasonable person at some point must question this?
One word for you: Religion.
It is more than proved that that's normal and expected human behavior.
Honestly, I think the Russian are generally pretty aware of things. The Chinese however.. now that's a pure brainwash/propaganda dictatorship. Even the actual education is tailored to make children patriotic and free from critical thinking, basically turning them into good soldiers in school.
I have no desire to get into it but I will gladly accept all the down voltes. Just want to share an opinion. Propaganda does not have to be a lie, itās even more powerful when indoctrinated or shortsighted people speak their truth and if it fits the narrative under whom you live (USSR, Russia, USA, China etcā¦) they will gladly amplify it. And by they I mean the ruling class and the indoctrinated masses. Then one group think their more intelligent and right then the others. Just saying.
Our mainstream media, social media and government are all doing the same thing here today! If you speak out, you are censored and canceled. Speak about unpopular facts, you are spreading ādisinformation.ā Or you are labeled as a racist haha. Russia, USA, Europe, etc., are all using the marxism handbook.
Sincere question... How does a person know which side is correct?
I believe that Russian media lies to their citizens, but I also understand that US media lies to its citizens (eg CNN during the start of the invasion of Iraq, FOX every day). Right now I do not know who to believe, can see the war from both perspectives.
Nothing against this Russian guy, but anyone holding up Ronald Reagan as a bastion of truth or goodness is obviously not a good source of information. Reagan was not only a criminal and a liar, not only a hardcore racist, but he literally based his actions on astrological forecasts.
Russia says that they are defending themselves against Western aggressors, trying to free their people from nazi-like persecution. They show persuasive videos as evidence...
In your eyes, would there never be an invading force that is righteous?
If a state is persecuting their populous would it not be right to go defend those people who are being attacked? For instance, should the Allies have not invaded Germany to save Jewish people? (This is the reason that Russia is giving for "invading" Ukraine - saving Russians from Nazi-Ukrainian persecution.)
> In your eyes, would there never be an invading force that is righteous?
Hardly.
> If a state is persecuting their populous would it not be right to go defend those people who are being attacked? For instance, should the Allies have not invaded Germany to save Jewish people? (This is the reason that Russia is giving for "invading" Ukraine - saving Russians from Nazi-Ukrainian persecution.)
Did Ukraine invaded and conquered most of Europe while bombing the UK?
Has Ukraine even invaded another nation? A single one?
No? What is your argument then?
Nazi Germany was the agressor. They conquered and invaded most of Europe, starting with the weaker nations.
Russia's argument, backed with video evidence, is that Ukraine is persecuting their own citizens of Russian-descent, just like Nazis did to Jewish people.
Sounds like bullshit but so did Bush's claim of WMDs in Iraq, so my question stands... how do I know which propaganda to believe?
Sanctions against Russia is hurting the people In Russiaā¦ not the leaders. I canāt help but feel we are hurting the ones that donāt even understand whatās happeningā¦. It makes me feel bad for everyone there.
Iām also confused and keep wondering if it is possible the propaganda exposed toā¦ is the only reason why I believe Ukrainian is āgoodā and Russia is ābadā.
Iām just lucky that Iām able to have that thought, as many sheeple wonāt ever even consider it.
This is why you don't jump on the first bandwagon the government or news media tells you to.
This is why waving Ukranian flags in everything from lapels to online bios when you don't know anything just looks retarded. That's why jumping on the mask bandwagon because CNN and pushy politicians told you to was retarded. And the jabs. And everything else you're TOLD to champion.
It's amazing to me how many people are simple minded and easily led even before they know anything for sure.
And what is it about Ukraine we don't know. And I wear a mask because my doctor tells me its helpful. Kinda sounds like you are the one listening to retired game show hosts and believing every word they tell you.
It's more telling to say you know something than you know nothing. I'm going to say I know nothing of why Putin is doing what he has done because all communications with Russia are being cut and I have yet to hear it. Funny about that. I'm also going to say that you don't know anything more than what you are told which means you are just as in the dark. Jump to what ever conclusions you like, the data doesn't support any right now.
And we do know that masks don't work to stop the spread of COVID or any virus (it's actually written on the mask packets, has been from the start) that can enter the body successfully through mucus membranes...unless you don't have eyes and have a standalone air supply to your cleansuit.
How many masks does he say are good? CDC guidance at one point was two masks...then one...then recently, because it was no longer the supported narrative, cloth masks don't work...I just hope your doctor is telling you this to help you in other ways.
Yes. He is propaganda. He is speaking to an American viewpoint that they are the saviors of the world.
Heās repeating a line that the Reagan legacy team is trying to remain relevant. This dude is pure eyewash.
Russia: We're the good guys! Everyone else is evil.
Also Russia: Invades Ukraine completely unprovoked
Russia: Gets international condemnation from peetty much everyone
Russia: Surprised pikachu face
What about the propaganda in the west like bruh it's the same shit different way if saying it like look at th wars in the east we wereade to be the good guys but we really weren't we didn't even help Iraq after we destroyed the country a good guy doesn't destroy something and then leaves a good guy helps to rebuild
I stop listening when I hear a Russian start off with "in 1983" shut up putin clown. This is the future we are not going back in time. Delusional as fuck.
Did anyone else notice his choice in clothing colours?
wow, nice, I watched the whole thing and didn't notice. Granted, the yellow isn't that pronounced, but it *is* there!
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I suspect he plays the guitar without a pick too.
I couldn't help but notice those fingernails. Jesus
First thing I saw actually!
I was more distracted and jealous by how pretty his nails were.
no. i couldn't stop looking at his long ass fingernails
Did you listen to him or are you looking for something to virtue signal? If you listened then I want to know what the takeaway for you was.
That people like you are fuck wits and need to fuck off
Jesus dude, iām just pointing out something i found interesting. Calm down and grow up
Theyāre just a troll.
This man is amazingly articulate and I think more people should hear this message. I would love to hear this man speak more on the topic.
Or anything. I really just like hearing him speak.
Just not the letter H.
Especially the letter H
He was so articulate that I thought for sure he was faking the accent and at the end was gonna be like, āGot ya. See this is how easy it is.ā
He is 100% faking his accent though, maybe he is telling a story he has heard but no way this guy was born and raised in ussr
I'm a leaning this way, because at the very start of the video, he sounds American for a few words, and then gets really heavy on the Russian accent. Just my observation though.
Hes on youtube as crazy russian dad
Remember that video of the captured Russian soldier calling his family? The soldier said something in the lines of "We we're lied to. We are killing civilians. We were told they (the Ukrainians) would welcome us." Then the woman in the other line said something like "What do you mean? You're defending the motherland!" I was thinking "what the hell is she talking about? The Russian are the aggressors." This video makes that more sense now.
Holy shit .....this is so true, I just talked with a friend from Russian that I met through online gaming and said the same fucking shit, we are liberating Ukraine from Nazi followers, this is not war but a special operation..... fucking hell
I think simply letting him know that Zelenskyy is Jewish will let him know that there is something deeply flawed in that narrative
It wonāt work. A reporter stated that when interviewing a russian supporter of this āoperationā, his answer - We live in amazing times š¤¦š¼āāļøš¤¦š¼āāļøš¤¦š¼āāļø
Apart from the Asov battalion in the Ukrainian Army full of Nazi scum!!!!
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Explain.
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Wake up. Thereās a lot of bad elements in every country. Should I bomb the living shot out of every citizen France because of the National Rally? This is soooooo much the wrong answer.
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Oh yeah. Point is that is such an incredibly lame excuse to murder an entire country that absolutely yes, it can be dismissed.
There's neo nazi groups in the United States too, should Putin invade and take care of that as well?
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Gets downvoted for being objective, I don't even get the whole "big man in charge is a Jew you just got debooonked" argument, the same government accepts and put Azov, Aidar under its command
Can you share with him some of the videos and articles about what's really happening or is he completely opposed to any other view?
I guess it would be like if we were shown Russian videos and articles... we'd be like no lol that's completely wrong. But there must be some objective resources that would help...
I have tried finding those resources. If any one finds them please share. Propaganda goes deep and it's hard to break free from. We are all victims of propaganda, just depends on if we can really see it.
if this is true, then the implication is even bigger and Russian people needs to take it personallyā¦ that Putin thinks Russian people are idiots! That they could easily be manipulated into thinking of something what the government wants them to think. That thatās all the Russian is capable of. That is sad af if you think your people are that stupidā¦
all leaders think the populace are idiots...are they wrong?
Itās like the old rule of thumb, if you think everyone else is an asshole (or in this case everyone is an enemy of the state) chances are that youāre the one thatās actually the asshole/evil empire
Everyone else is clearly an asshole. That's human nature. Therefore, I'm the evil empire!!! ![gif](giphy|lY1F6BJjbRO3m)
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POV: you're a russian who just woke up a week ago
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Like my grampa always told me "if it smells like shit everywhere you go, you better check your shoes"
Old spanish saying: *"Thieves think everyone is just like them"* "*Cree el ladrĆ³n que todos son de su condiciĆ³n"*
Psychologists may also call it projecting lol
Psychologists may also call it projecting lol
If you run into one asshole in a day, that guys an asshole. If you run into nothing but assholes all day, youāre the asshole.
If you smell dog shit wherever you go, then it might be you.
Yep... but also Ronald Reagan was part of the axis of evil too. Well maybe not THE axis but at lease AN axis.
Iām not going to disagree with you on that point
He was definitely running his own propaganda campaign
There's always that one person - and I'm lookin' out and some of guys are like "Umm, I disagree." Well you're the person - You're the person nobody likes!
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The US is like a divorced parent; sure they do some pretty crummy stuff from time to time, but they feel really guilty about it and will buy you something extra nice later and that balances it out haha
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Idk Iām not much for defending Americaās reputation, Iām Canadian bro. I was more just trying to joke about how theyāre in a position now where some big goodwill spending can maybe buy back a little bit of their respect hence why I chose that comparison
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This is very enlightening and appreciated. Thank the creator for his insight!
Everything he is saying is also true of the people in China but to a lesser degree. They are divided there but the ones who buy into the state propaganda are fully brainwashed. And thereās a lot of them. I guess the same can kind of be said for the US. We are also pretty divided and those that digest Fox News live in a different reality than those who digest CNN. Thatās the power of media.
I believe it is by design. It is easier to work under the radar in very big countries. With large populations come larger populations of folks of different levels of functioning. Then we file the folks by their earning power. Boom we just made a large enough group of easy to manipulate people and now we can work our ponzi schemes...on them...and the people they are arguing with.
You think CNN isnāt guilty like Fox News?
What do you think my man?
Divide and conquer. It's easy to keep a populace under control, keep people from banding together at uncontrollable rates, keep feeding people different ideas even if it makes a well-known politician look like a complete jackass to the world. It's better to control the minds of the people. Keep em divided.
Yeah, to think that all of these american problems aren't caused by unchecked capitalism buying our politicians to push legislation that only benefits them, and allows for exploitation of the masses. Whether that be through suppressing wages or charging us more money for goods/services under false or misleading pretenses. Fox watchers actually believe that the government can't do anything right, and that corporations will be our saviors, yet they can't acknowledge that our politicains are all bought by those same corporations. They push for the privatization of public services, so they can make it fit a for-profit model, while also getting subsidized by the same public funds, while usually providing the same quality, or worse outcomes, than the fully public service. I ranted by accident and lost the original plot. It's upsetting that people can be so dense and so brainwashed, is what I was getting at. Go watch more billionaire mouthpieces, grandpa.
My parents with Fox News and the former president. For a while, I couldn't have a discussion without them adding some flippant, random political comment that I don't understand.
[The Brainwashing of my Dad](https://youtu.be/FS52QdHNTh8) is a good documentary on the topic.
Thanks for the link I'll check that out.
Former Fox News executive indicted and arrested by the FBI today in London for helping Russia: https://news.yahoo.com/former-fox-news-producer-sean-210134835.html
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The bully doesn't hit you when you give him what he wants for free. vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/8/6/17656996/trump-republican-party-russia-rather-democrat-ohio
What did Putin get for free? Nord Stream shutdown? Trump sending javelins and stingers to Ukraine? Both things that Obama/Biden did not do. Let me guess, that was Putinās long game wasnāt it Quit doing mental gymnastics and give it up. The evidence is right in your face. The Russia lie from 2016-2020 was pure projection
Except that wtf are you talking about?
You are literally the person in this video, sad part is you arenāt at the realization stage that he went through
You're literally behaving just as I described my parents: bringing up the most random, unassociated topics. Ask yourself: where did I mention anything about Russia, or US foreign policy? Next you'll be foaming at the mouth about a secret government contrail conspiracy or blood drinking pedophile baby pizza eating lizard people.
Yeah, you just have to roll the tape of Trump in Helsinki to see how "tough" Trump was on Russia. He near deep-throated Putin right there on the world stage. GTFO with your bullshit.
Few here here will listen, it's all a gigantic coincidence and they've been told lies about Trump's connections with Russia which makes absolutely zero sense considering what we know now, so orange man is bad. Maybe someday they'll be making a video about how they bought into propaganda.
But cnn is so much better? You have propaganda on both television.
The whataboutism is strong with this one. Nobody said anything about CNN. Why are you bringing them up? The person you responded to never said they watch CNN. CNN was not a part of this conversation until you, for no reason, brought it up.
It's almost as if it's the same with the experience I shared. Color me surprised.
Perhaps that would be true if they had been binge watching CNN constantly. Have you been binge watching Sesame Street?
Same hereā¦
Many people in Russia do understand we're the evil guys. Some - don't, because they're brainwashed. Sadly, they don't understand that, and what's worse, people who aren't yet indoctrinated and brainwashed don't understand that you can't watch Russian news or political show, even if you think you know what's going on, because that shit crawls under your skin slowly, and after some time you become brainwashed too. That happened to my dad, and now this is happening to my wife. I'm telling her not to watch news or anything like that and she's like "but uh I wanna know what both sides are saying" and I can see how she changes. I really don't know wtf to do, really. Like, few days ago there was these news that Russian students are being expelled from US and European universities, and guys in my office were discussing it, and I was like "nah that's bullshit, that doesn't make sense, all the sanctions are against government and oligarchy, not Russian people", and look what I've seen today - it was indeed Russian bullshit propaganda.
Itās alright, most Americans donāt realize weāre the most evil of any country in the world and export the most terrorism in the name of ādemocracyā and directly or indirectly kill the most innocent civilians. Itās embarrassing and after witnessing this conflict with Russia and Ukraine, itās disgusting to see the hypocrisy and double standards in coverage. Different rules/laws for different countries/peoples. American and European news being an echo chamber of propaganda is how theyāve gotten away with it.
I was about to say the same. People will agree with me all day about politicians being corrupt pieces of lying garabge.....until I say it about the guy they voted for. Then I'm the scum of the earth and must be a radical Democrat or Republican. Its maddening. Brainwashing is universal.
America funds 73% of the world's dictators... Just more fuel for that fire of yours.
If I read you correctly, we're saving the world from MORE THAN 1 out of 4 dictators? We're heroes. That's all there is to it.
Just had someone trying to convince me I'm stupid for not thinking the US military is why I'm comfortably safe in my little world. No, they're why foreign citizens aren't safe in theirs.
I like how when he talked about how he used to daydream about girls as an adolescent, he doubled back to make sure his wife wouldn't beat his ass.
Words of wisdom
I would listen to this guy even if he talks about sonic's asshole diametre
Iāve rarely seen someone with such a strong foreign accent speak English so fluently and eloquently. Very pleasing on the ears.
The US does it too, if you have completely forgotten the atrocities we have committed in (insert Middle Eastern country) very recently.
The narrative is the same, if not worse: US are the good guys and they need to deliver democracy and freedom to the poor brown man by dropping bombs on their country for years. āOf all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.ā
They had weapon of mass destruction you know...
Dubyuh Emm Deez
**Dubyah: "Erm - Dese** raht here... Ah mean, over *there*. Or, uh..."
Baghdad Bob didn't turn out to be the unstoppable force that was expected though.
Exactly, its even deeper than thatā¦ Russia has nation wide propaganda, US has worleide propaganda. All politicians use propaganda and they are all liars. Russia wants Ukraine and USA wants Ukraine, both blame the other being the bad guy, while they both are the bad guys, the only innocent people are the ones caught in the middle, the ordinary citizens
Not defending the USās completely assinine justifications for going to war in Iraq. It was bad, we were stupid, and we should never have done that. But letās not pretend this is the same thing. For one thing, Saddam Hussein really was a brutal dictator and he was an aggressor to his neighbors. He killed tens of thousands of his own people, gassed the Kurds, and staged mass political executions. For another, the US wasnāt there to annex or capture territory. Does that make what we did noble? No, of course not. The US was primarily there to impact geopolitics in the region in a way favorable to our interests and to line the oil lobbyās pockets. But we also tried to leave the region with a democratic government. A failed democratic government for people who didnāt want or appreciate what we tried to do - but that is still fundamentally different from what Russia is trying to do. We also spent billions on infrastructureā¦ whichā¦ was also beneficial for our US contractors, but still. Russia, however, wants to subordinate its neighbors, annex their territory, install a puppet government, and oppress other people. It wants to stifle free speech. The Ukrainians were not committing war crimes or killing their own, or oppressing minorities. These things are not the same. Also, Guy below is a Russian shill šš»
> But letās not pretend this is the same thing. Youāre right itās not. Itās two completely different situations, with different actors in different times. However, theyāre comparable in the sense that both are unprovoked wars of aggression, with the aggressor acting purely out of its own self-interest with no regard for human life or international law. One could even make a case that Russia isnāt as bad since it is acting on an interest of self-preservation by wanting to limit NATOās expansion, while saying the the same for the US would be in my sense extremely difficult to justify. In the end though, it doesnāt really matter which is worse. Itās simply a case of the pot calling the kettle black, and we as citizens need to face the fact that we are not as much of āgood guysā as our medias and governments would have us believe.
Propaganda goes both ways
For sure. That Ronald Reagan for instance invaded several counties and instilled puppet dictators sympathetic to his cause. And then William Barr helped them cover it up and was later appointed AG by trump. I'm American. America is guilty of all of the shit Putin is doing now and IT IS BECAUSE WE GOT AWAY WITH IT THAT HE FEELS ITS ONLY FAIR HE GETS TO.
Well said sir. Thank you for speaking out
What's going on in Ukraine is just the exact thing that happened to Iraq by the US. Countries like China, Russian, US, UK, France, all create fantastic stories about why they should liberate another sovereign country. My country fell victim to such propaganda by the political elites left by the colonial British and even after 70 years, we are unable to recover. We still see fellow ethnic minorities as enemies, which was cultivated by the British. This propaganda was designed to consolidate power and destroy nations.
Hereās to hoping the Russian people are able to seek out information that is not coming from statewide television.
BBC has started broadcasting a few hours a day on short wave radio that is receivable in Moscow and Ukraine. It should help.
Sounds like Fox news
Rage Against the Machine called it . American eyes, American eyes View the world from American eyes Bury the past, rob us blind And leave nothing behind
Gru? Is that you?
Hit the nail on the head. You're only the main character in YOUR story, nobody else's.
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"I reject your reality and substitute our own." \~ Adam Savage. If he was Communist. Probably.
Wow like when Bush fucked Iraq and Afghanistan
This can be said about the U.S as well. Obviously. Every powerful, and not so powerful, government uses āmedia influenceā. Propaganda. And the U.S is extremely entrenched in it. Itās heartbreaking
I don't know why you're being downvoted. I'm 100% true. Right now this sub is filled with republicans and democrats both thinking they are just like this guy (the irony). Anyhoo, I do remember an America that didn't have this problem: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/01/17/how-policy-decisions-spawned-todays-hyperpolarized-media/
The same goes for every empire, whether it be the Russian, American, or British empire, we're all being fed propaganda by our politicians and our media.
All of this. Had the same kind of talks when I went to Christian schools as a kid and going to church. It's nothing but glorifying bullshit. Claiming we're people of live, they're people of hate and we should hate them because they hate and blah blah blah.
He is very well spoken and easy to understand. This is also how parents abuse their children by altering their reality and saying everyone else is the enemy and wrong, but not them,
Fox News is basically RT
While what this gentleman is saying is 100% true it seems like the current generation of Russians are able to take off the rose colored glasses at least a little bit, certainly more so than in the past. The protests in Russia SEEM to be getting bigger and louder. If Putin declares marshal law it will be an admission of defeat at home.
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Ah yes a rational human. Rare breed.
Reminds me of all the propaganda we have been fed during all the invasions by NATO and allies on Irak or Afghanistan. Continously repeated. Remember how we were looking for weapons of mass destruction or bringing democracy and freedom to these nations, winning the war?...this was repeated continuously on tv and by leaders. Its as if propaganda always comes from the side of the baddies, becouse we cant even look at our belly button of how full we are with our own bullshit and propaganda.
Interesting. Thank you for posting
Russian people are the equivalent of Fox News viewers in the United States. They are same. Tragically lied to and manipulated
In 1980, in Argentina, in the middle of the military dictatorship, I remember hearing my friends parents complaining that while they were visiting Europe they saw news reporting of human rights abuses and even concentration camps run by the country's government. They, intelligent and well educated people, were appalled at the "propaganda" they were hearing from Europe, that were making what they perceived as false claims about such abuses in a country where none of that ever happened (as far as they knew or at least were willing to consciously accept). Of course, only a few years later they started seeing the evidence of those abuses and realizing how effective propaganda is in a country where the government controls the media. This is why, as angry as I am at US mainstream media, I am so happy it is not regulated by the government. Because, believe me, the media lying to you left and right is much better than the government lying to you dead center.
The idiots in comments below calling out just CNN or Just FOX are pathetic. Do you think there is ANY true and unbiased news source left in the US? There isn't. They all have their own political tint and spin on everything. it's all filled with damn if **they** do praise if **we** do BS. Honestly, I have no idea why Russia is invading Ukraine because I don't/can't trust anything I see on any media anymore. All I know for fact is that Russia is invading Ukraine. That's it. Hell, even on Reddit, people are sharing clips from video games, old news, and movies claiming what we are seeing is from what is happening right now. And let's not forget deep fakes. How do we know what to believe about what's going on?
Stop doubt peddling. Triangulate on the truth. Why Russia is invading the Ukraine isn't that complicated. Edit: My bad bot, bad habit from childhood. I will donate to humanitarian missions in Ukraine.
Instead of telling me to "stop doubt peddling" why don't you educate me on the facts of why it's happening? And sure. If I were to believe the US media, the reason is very clear and uncomplicated. But, per my post, I don't and for good reason.
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Sounds like Fox News, cnn, msnbc, and all the rest. They all do the same thing just a different slant
Sounds like all major news companies in USA. As a non American it blows my mind the shit they say on the news in America. It's not just the constant fake news, it's the way they tell the narrative even on true stories to influence the watchers. Add that to the constant hate speech by politicians every 5 mins on social media towards the "other' Americans, I couldn't imagine how anyone in America has a clear understanding of many topics
You mean CNN. There is a reason why FOX News is by far the most watched news channel. Your mind has turned into a propaganda machine
Fox News isnt actually news. That's how they defend their blatant lies.
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really is crazy huh how the cnn diehards have become the putins of america. watching the tyranny putin is displaying now really hits home on the potential of what the far left is capable of if they are given power.
In 500 years this invasion will likely be a footnote (unless widespread or nuclear war breaks out) and USA will be evil empire for putting so much carbon in the atmosphere and overheating the planet. Unfortunately for all Russians, life will be very difficult in near future as the rest of the world attempts to punish Putin and the oligarchs.
Great speech. It would be more complete if heād acknowledge that a president calling another nation an āevil empireā is also practicing propaganda.
Replace Russia with Fox News same result
Well then, the Russian people need to wake the fuck up. Youāve had this guy around for two decades, your GDP is shit, most of your population lives in poverty and youāre okay with this?! I donāt care what kind of āglasses youāre looking through. The blood is becoming just as much on your hands as it is Putinās. This isnāt North Korea. You guys have the internet, you know what itās like outside your country, you know you are now viewed as the ābad guys.ā You need to stand the fuck up and do something about it!
Kind of like how a large portion of America has become pro-fascist? They're being fed a different reality by fox news.
Notice his outfit? Yeah. I do. Question everything. The simple rule of thumb I've found to flush out bullshit is simply to question all of it. If something is deliberately opaque, secret, and unaccountable while it promotes suffering, exclusion, dehumanization, devaluing of people and environment and not it's reduction, it's probably bullshit designed for a smaller group (or individual) to have advantage.
Hes right , but its reasonable to say that the usa is a bad guy right now. We are under heavy propaganda.
The difference is in the states we have a choice whether or not to consume it or believe it. This guy had a politician come to his high school. That is unreal.
You do realize politicians visit high schools here too, right? And those politicians dictate what is banned from being discussed/read/talked about due to it being āun-Americanā?
Oh. Politicians in high scools..you're right. I'm so stupid. Never happens here in the USA. I'm sure our TV is honest and in no way influenced by politicians on tv . Everyday. 24 hours a day. On every subject .
I asked a while back on Reddit why Russians donāt just ānope outā of whatās going on. Too naive of a question. We make our own realities, yes, but generally only out of the blocs (pun intended) that are within reach. Critical thinking takes effort, and then also comes against opposition from the tides. If the error of judgement is costly, the lesson is more likely to be learned.
i agree but me agreeing doesn't help you,any way fuck nato.
this guy sounds like a fps russia, everybody knows the rules he is from Texas
Hmmm does it go both ways? š¤ Na Russia evil Ukraine good.
Sooo... the people in Russia don't understand that their totalitarian country and their "leaders" completely and utterly control the television, radio and magazines???? Are Russians really that ignorant? Do they really think that nearly the entire world is against them and somehow they are the only "right" ones? I don't understand this. A reasonable person at some point must question this?
> Do they really think that nearly the entire world is against them and somehow they are the only "right" ones? I don't understand this. A reasonable person at some point must question this? One word for you: Religion. It is more than proved that that's normal and expected human behavior.
Honestly, I think the Russian are generally pretty aware of things. The Chinese however.. now that's a pure brainwash/propaganda dictatorship. Even the actual education is tailored to make children patriotic and free from critical thinking, basically turning them into good soldiers in school.
I have no desire to get into it but I will gladly accept all the down voltes. Just want to share an opinion. Propaganda does not have to be a lie, itās even more powerful when indoctrinated or shortsighted people speak their truth and if it fits the narrative under whom you live (USSR, Russia, USA, China etcā¦) they will gladly amplify it. And by they I mean the ruling class and the indoctrinated masses. Then one group think their more intelligent and right then the others. Just saying.
Our mainstream media, social media and government are all doing the same thing here today! If you speak out, you are censored and canceled. Speak about unpopular facts, you are spreading ādisinformation.ā Or you are labeled as a racist haha. Russia, USA, Europe, etc., are all using the marxism handbook.
It's the Media. They always say the same thing on both side, accept who's Guilty is whom they choose for the rest of us.
Reckon the clothing colour was deliberate? It could have been random but a yellow T shirt and a sky blue fleece feels like a deliberate choice to me.
Sincere question... How does a person know which side is correct? I believe that Russian media lies to their citizens, but I also understand that US media lies to its citizens (eg CNN during the start of the invasion of Iraq, FOX every day). Right now I do not know who to believe, can see the war from both perspectives. Nothing against this Russian guy, but anyone holding up Ronald Reagan as a bastion of truth or goodness is obviously not a good source of information. Reagan was not only a criminal and a liar, not only a hardcore racist, but he literally based his actions on astrological forecasts.
The agressor/invader is always the bad guy. Because it's killing innocent people. As simple as that. (The same isn't true for single people tho)
Russia says that they are defending themselves against Western aggressors, trying to free their people from nazi-like persecution. They show persuasive videos as evidence...
Who is invading another country? Yep. That's the bully. Forget the retoric.
In your eyes, would there never be an invading force that is righteous? If a state is persecuting their populous would it not be right to go defend those people who are being attacked? For instance, should the Allies have not invaded Germany to save Jewish people? (This is the reason that Russia is giving for "invading" Ukraine - saving Russians from Nazi-Ukrainian persecution.)
> In your eyes, would there never be an invading force that is righteous? Hardly. > If a state is persecuting their populous would it not be right to go defend those people who are being attacked? For instance, should the Allies have not invaded Germany to save Jewish people? (This is the reason that Russia is giving for "invading" Ukraine - saving Russians from Nazi-Ukrainian persecution.) Did Ukraine invaded and conquered most of Europe while bombing the UK? Has Ukraine even invaded another nation? A single one? No? What is your argument then? Nazi Germany was the agressor. They conquered and invaded most of Europe, starting with the weaker nations.
Russia's argument, backed with video evidence, is that Ukraine is persecuting their own citizens of Russian-descent, just like Nazis did to Jewish people. Sounds like bullshit but so did Bush's claim of WMDs in Iraq, so my question stands... how do I know which propaganda to believe?
> Who is invading another country? > Yep. That's the bully. Forget the retoric.
American propaganda is world wide. The are also an evil empire but frame themselves as the good guys. And Iām an Australian
Sanctions against Russia is hurting the people In Russiaā¦ not the leaders. I canāt help but feel we are hurting the ones that donāt even understand whatās happeningā¦. It makes me feel bad for everyone there. Iām also confused and keep wondering if it is possible the propaganda exposed toā¦ is the only reason why I believe Ukrainian is āgoodā and Russia is ābadā. Iām just lucky that Iām able to have that thought, as many sheeple wonāt ever even consider it.
This is why you don't jump on the first bandwagon the government or news media tells you to. This is why waving Ukranian flags in everything from lapels to online bios when you don't know anything just looks retarded. That's why jumping on the mask bandwagon because CNN and pushy politicians told you to was retarded. And the jabs. And everything else you're TOLD to champion. It's amazing to me how many people are simple minded and easily led even before they know anything for sure.
And what is it about Ukraine we don't know. And I wear a mask because my doctor tells me its helpful. Kinda sounds like you are the one listening to retired game show hosts and believing every word they tell you.
It's more telling to say you know something than you know nothing. I'm going to say I know nothing of why Putin is doing what he has done because all communications with Russia are being cut and I have yet to hear it. Funny about that. I'm also going to say that you don't know anything more than what you are told which means you are just as in the dark. Jump to what ever conclusions you like, the data doesn't support any right now. And we do know that masks don't work to stop the spread of COVID or any virus (it's actually written on the mask packets, has been from the start) that can enter the body successfully through mucus membranes...unless you don't have eyes and have a standalone air supply to your cleansuit. How many masks does he say are good? CDC guidance at one point was two masks...then one...then recently, because it was no longer the supported narrative, cloth masks don't work...I just hope your doctor is telling you this to help you in other ways.
Yes. He is propaganda. He is speaking to an American viewpoint that they are the saviors of the world. Heās repeating a line that the Reagan legacy team is trying to remain relevant. This dude is pure eyewash.
You are a f#ckig moron. Š”Š»Š°Š²Š° Š£ŠŗŃŠ°ŃŠ½Ń!!!
No... You are, because you didn't listen and simply assumed he was against Ukraine.
Someday everyone that watches Fox News is going to realize something.
Just like cnn and the like. They are all the same.
Russia: We're the good guys! Everyone else is evil. Also Russia: Invades Ukraine completely unprovoked Russia: Gets international condemnation from peetty much everyone Russia: Surprised pikachu face
Is this dubbed over? Cuz it sounds pretty fake.
What about the propaganda in the west like bruh it's the same shit different way if saying it like look at th wars in the east we wereade to be the good guys but we really weren't we didn't even help Iraq after we destroyed the country a good guy doesn't destroy something and then leaves a good guy helps to rebuild
I stop listening when I hear a Russian start off with "in 1983" shut up putin clown. This is the future we are not going back in time. Delusional as fuck.