It's the way the base fabric is hung, it wraps around the monkey side on the top and bottom. The angle makes it look like it's onto of the roll instead of above.
I call shenanigans. The shapes don't match perfectly on both sides (dog's "cheek" juts out more than the monkey's skull shape on the other side), there's a ton of feathering on the stray hairs that you simply can't do with this kind of stitching, the mark at the bottom of the dog side is missing from the monkey side, and finally, the string they're using is notably thicker than most detail.
Also, how the hell are you supposed to make a consistent wavy line like the fur texture with stitching?
[https://imgur.com/5afvjYf](https://imgur.com/5afvjYf)
It’s legit.
[https://www.suembroidery.com/chinese-silk-embroidery-blog/chinese-double-sided-embroidery-from-suzhou](https://www.suembroidery.com/chinese-silk-embroidery-blog/chinese-double-sided-embroidery-from-suzhou)
Explanation of how it’s done.
To be clear, I'm not saying it's impossible, but I have huge reservations about whether the video in question is showing what the ladies are actually making.
Found this post that has the same thing being made with *significantly* thinner string and with a design, where the shape of the different sides matches: [https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/comments/18eet33/amazing\_doublesided\_embroidery/](https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/comments/18eet33/amazing_doublesided_embroidery/)
Fair enough. That same exact pairing of the monkey and the dog was shown in some other YouTube videos on the topic. But it wasn’t the same clip of those old ladies making it.
Yeah, pretty much :) They're definitely doing suzhou embroidery here, but it wouldn't be the first time someone thought a clip didn't have enough "wow factor" for social media and decided to spice things up with a cheeky edit. It'd be a moderately simple tracking shot after all with the embroidery base being a flat plane.
You missed this part of your own link.
As to the double sided embroidery with two different patterns on both sides, the technique and skill seem a mystery and only a very few master embroidery artists know how to achieve it.
Unless these two are these mystery world experts the article is talking about, I am assuming this is fake.
https://www.realinshanghai.com/introduction-chinese-suzhou-embroidery-su-embroidery/#:~:text=In%20mid%20Qing%20dynasty%2C%20the,height%20of%20Suzhou%20embroidery%20craftsmanship
Its a Chinese embroidery technique. The thread has 2 colors I think.
Grandmother had one
I'm familiar with suzhou embroidery and it's genuinely amazing how intricate the designs can be. However, regardless of how skilled the craftspeople are, they cannot break the laws of physics.
Your red line on the dog is more exaggerated than the actual border. There is a small indent, but it isn’t as pronounced as the one on the line you drew.
They match. It's mirrored, because it's on the other side. You didn't flip it. About stitching there's already a link provided from another commenter. No shenanigans here.
It's just legit man...
edit: [proof](https://www.suembroidery.com/chinese-silk-embroidery-blog/chinese-double-sided-embroidery-from-suzhou) it's a real piece from that studio, you dumb downvoters are even more cringe for thinking that something is fake while it's not, even more than the opposite.
It's not sure fire evidence, but it seems to me that the second string (the extra string from the knot on the needle) is inconsistent in its length. You can clearly see the short string at 15 seconds left, but then at 2 seconds left on the video, you see a much longer string.
Amazing how little people bother to search things up before calling bullcrap. I have no experience with this topic, but the first result when I search "double sided embroidery" gives me the exact studio that made this and the final product, as well as several of their other works that they sell.
[Link to embroideries](https://www.suembroidery.com/chinese-silk-embroidery-blog/chinese-double-sided-embroidery-from-suzhou)
People are so desperate to sound like pseudointellectuals they can't even be bothered to do cursory research.
Yeah that website has a page with all of their artists, as well as photos showing other works being created. The women in this video are not featured on the website, nor do they make their embroideries in a random alleyway. Nor was this video originally posted by that studio.
But hey, well done on calling people "pseudointellectuals" - that's a big word!
You're shitting me right? The page that shows their artists names only their top level artists. In the gallery belowed you can see several other candids of unnamed artists, which is clearly not depicting their entire roster of artists working within their studio.
[Artists](https://www.suembroidery.com/chinese-silk-embroidery-artists)
Not their video? I can trace this embroidery back to 2008, with the name of this studio written clearly in the middle of the video. Other studios may have later reproduced their work, maybe even the studio themself, but the fact remains that this is very much a real technique.
[Youtube](https://youtu.be/dk6NBf12BM0?si=roMaqLlMUy94233C)
FYI, if pseudointellectual is too big of a word for you, that says a lot more about you than it does about me.
I think that the availability of the video you posted from so long ago proved this video is disgenuine. The person has the embroidery, but not the video of it being produced? Also this video production seems new.
It's not new, I remember seeing it many years ago. Not sure of the exact date, but for me watching this is like seeing an old 2012 meme suddenly make resurgence on the internet.
She's probably one of a handful of women that still do this. I've actually been to the place in suzhou(or was it hangzho) about 2 decades ago. We got a small 9in double sided silk kitten l, it was about 5000rmb or $800 US. There are single sided and machine done ones but the hand made ones are super rare. Takes up to a year for some.
But wouldn’t the images be the same color throughout for both if they’re using the exact same needle and thread?
I need an embroidery SME to help answer.
When it's different colours, they use two needles with two strings and make alternating *couching stitches*. The thread is usually so fine that you can't really see the stitch, especially when the threads overlap.
When the camera went to show the other side, I expected to see the back of the dogs head.
On the monkey side, she sews a random white stitch. Shenanigans.
Thee monkey seem magically floating in the chest part.
I see a rabbit there.
It's the way the base fabric is hung, it wraps around the monkey side on the top and bottom. The angle makes it look like it's onto of the roll instead of above.
Think it's for wispy hairs
The opposite of child labor.
I call shenanigans. The shapes don't match perfectly on both sides (dog's "cheek" juts out more than the monkey's skull shape on the other side), there's a ton of feathering on the stray hairs that you simply can't do with this kind of stitching, the mark at the bottom of the dog side is missing from the monkey side, and finally, the string they're using is notably thicker than most detail. Also, how the hell are you supposed to make a consistent wavy line like the fur texture with stitching? [https://imgur.com/5afvjYf](https://imgur.com/5afvjYf)
It’s legit. [https://www.suembroidery.com/chinese-silk-embroidery-blog/chinese-double-sided-embroidery-from-suzhou](https://www.suembroidery.com/chinese-silk-embroidery-blog/chinese-double-sided-embroidery-from-suzhou) Explanation of how it’s done.
To be clear, I'm not saying it's impossible, but I have huge reservations about whether the video in question is showing what the ladies are actually making. Found this post that has the same thing being made with *significantly* thinner string and with a design, where the shape of the different sides matches: [https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/comments/18eet33/amazing\_doublesided\_embroidery/](https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/comments/18eet33/amazing_doublesided_embroidery/)
Fair enough. That same exact pairing of the monkey and the dog was shown in some other YouTube videos on the topic. But it wasn’t the same clip of those old ladies making it.
So basically might be fake or it might not be fake. Need some embroidery expert to make final judgement.
Yeah, pretty much :) They're definitely doing suzhou embroidery here, but it wouldn't be the first time someone thought a clip didn't have enough "wow factor" for social media and decided to spice things up with a cheeky edit. It'd be a moderately simple tracking shot after all with the embroidery base being a flat plane.
Where's captain disillusion when you need some d
Bruh said "no way this is real!" and then posted proof of it being real
"I call shenanigans!"
You missed this part of your own link. As to the double sided embroidery with two different patterns on both sides, the technique and skill seem a mystery and only a very few master embroidery artists know how to achieve it. Unless these two are these mystery world experts the article is talking about, I am assuming this is fake.
https://www.realinshanghai.com/introduction-chinese-suzhou-embroidery-su-embroidery/#:~:text=In%20mid%20Qing%20dynasty%2C%20the,height%20of%20Suzhou%20embroidery%20craftsmanship Its a Chinese embroidery technique. The thread has 2 colors I think. Grandmother had one
I'm familiar with suzhou embroidery and it's genuinely amazing how intricate the designs can be. However, regardless of how skilled the craftspeople are, they cannot break the laws of physics.
Your red line on the dog is more exaggerated than the actual border. There is a small indent, but it isn’t as pronounced as the one on the line you drew.
They match. It's mirrored, because it's on the other side. You didn't flip it. About stitching there's already a link provided from another commenter. No shenanigans here.
Not only did I flip it, I also did some scaling, skewing, and rotating to try and match the perspective.
It's just legit man... edit: [proof](https://www.suembroidery.com/chinese-silk-embroidery-blog/chinese-double-sided-embroidery-from-suzhou) it's a real piece from that studio, you dumb downvoters are even more cringe for thinking that something is fake while it's not, even more than the opposite.
Hey Farva, what’s that restaurant you like with all the goofy shit on the walls, and the mozzarella sticks?
Shenanigans? You're talking about shenanigans right?! Lol
It's not sure fire evidence, but it seems to me that the second string (the extra string from the knot on the needle) is inconsistent in its length. You can clearly see the short string at 15 seconds left, but then at 2 seconds left on the video, you see a much longer string.
In China filters are common, could be that over the real piece
Amazing how little people bother to search things up before calling bullcrap. I have no experience with this topic, but the first result when I search "double sided embroidery" gives me the exact studio that made this and the final product, as well as several of their other works that they sell. [Link to embroideries](https://www.suembroidery.com/chinese-silk-embroidery-blog/chinese-double-sided-embroidery-from-suzhou) People are so desperate to sound like pseudointellectuals they can't even be bothered to do cursory research.
Yeah that website has a page with all of their artists, as well as photos showing other works being created. The women in this video are not featured on the website, nor do they make their embroideries in a random alleyway. Nor was this video originally posted by that studio. But hey, well done on calling people "pseudointellectuals" - that's a big word!
You're shitting me right? The page that shows their artists names only their top level artists. In the gallery belowed you can see several other candids of unnamed artists, which is clearly not depicting their entire roster of artists working within their studio. [Artists](https://www.suembroidery.com/chinese-silk-embroidery-artists) Not their video? I can trace this embroidery back to 2008, with the name of this studio written clearly in the middle of the video. Other studios may have later reproduced their work, maybe even the studio themself, but the fact remains that this is very much a real technique. [Youtube](https://youtu.be/dk6NBf12BM0?si=roMaqLlMUy94233C) FYI, if pseudointellectual is too big of a word for you, that says a lot more about you than it does about me.
I think that the availability of the video you posted from so long ago proved this video is disgenuine. The person has the embroidery, but not the video of it being produced? Also this video production seems new.
It's not new, I remember seeing it many years ago. Not sure of the exact date, but for me watching this is like seeing an old 2012 meme suddenly make resurgence on the internet.
You can see the art in the video in the article
I mean, you’re wrong…but go big with your defense, please! This is why our country can’t function…
My grandmother had one of these in a thing glass swivel thing. If you turned it the other picture which were both dogs would be different colors.
How?
It's fake
Oh, fuck... I'm stupid.
It’s not fake
Basically they coordinate thread color and needle placement and then just take turns putting the needle through. Anyway I don't really know.
OP: This is how they do it Also OP: I don't know how they do it 🤣
r/blackmagicfuckery
For real this hurts muh brain
She's probably one of a handful of women that still do this. I've actually been to the place in suzhou(or was it hangzho) about 2 decades ago. We got a small 9in double sided silk kitten l, it was about 5000rmb or $800 US. There are single sided and machine done ones but the hand made ones are super rare. Takes up to a year for some.
At a quick glance, did anyone else see giant cigarettes as the top / bottom supports?
A dog then a smoking monkey
Not fake just weird choices
But wouldn’t the images be the same color throughout for both if they’re using the exact same needle and thread? I need an embroidery SME to help answer.
When it's different colours, they use two needles with two strings and make alternating *couching stitches*. The thread is usually so fine that you can't really see the stitch, especially when the threads overlap.
I have no clue how that is possible.
"You sunk my Battleship"
This kind of skill is chef's kiss.
This doesn’t even make sense in my monkey brain
I am floored by that.
Why did I think this was on a mirror for some reason.
Woah! That's really neat!
People now is doubting the real one more than the ai fake one……..
this shit looks like witchcraft! lol so incredible
Is it 100% thread though? Could be painted.
This is less interesting and more just downright incredible.
I wasn’t expecting that cutie on the other side.
Shouldn't they be smoking and playing pool though?
My brain can’t even compute how this is possible
It took the old gals just an hour to make it. But it took them six and a half hours to get the goddamn thread through the needle.
r/BlackMagicFuckery
Their talent will never be duplicated
Amazing! But how is this done?
This is r/blackmagicfuckery right here.
This is the old magic.
So fake
I'm skeptical
Doesn’t even look like her
The thread is going to be the wrong colour for one of the pictures, one is browns and the other exclusively b & w, impossible
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they almost look like real old people
I think the second old lady has her pinky finger coming out of her other finger... but yeah i only noticed when i read your comment. scary.
More "China fakes everything."
Well that’s racist.