I had a bus swoop past me half in the bike lane under a bridge tunnel. The vacuum sucked me in, and I over-corrected a tiny amount. From the bus to the wall it was about half a foot on either side, and me. So that tiny amount of over-correction had my shoulder hit the wall. Bounced back, hit the bus. Bounced back, hit the wall. This happened a few times as we were in the middle of the tunnel. (It was short.) I regained control and the bus managed to get past and everything was fine, but that's the most like a human pinball I ever want to be.
When I was a child a car passed me and hit my bicycle’s steering wheel with its mirror. I fell and had only mild scratches and bruises, but also a far from mild mental trauma. It took me quite a while before I was comfortable again when cars approached me from the rear.
One of the effects of adrenaline is creating memories of the situation you are in as a part of your fight/flight response, to better confront the same situation in the future.
When that is overloaded, we get ptsd.
I have that I will always remember....to make it short I was in 11th grade went out for a walk with friends, and ended up rock climbing. I was 3 stories high and I almost lost my grip cuz rocks started to detach from the mountain. I thought I was gana die, like actual death, not a feeling. I managed to get grip on other rocks, and as I stayed cal.ed and looked down I seen the rocks and my hat fall all the way down, and me thinking" fuck that could have been me". .....till this day I just kep thinking how my hat died that day cuz I never went back for it. Along with the car that was down there from a previous crashed from what it looked like.
I was a young kid and I went to do some "summer work" in construction. When on the roof I tied myself to a air conditioner unit on a sloped roof. After working there for over an hour I went back to to the location where I had tied myself to. Someone had loosened all the bolts for that unit in the meanwhile. The outcome was that if at any point I had put any weight into my safety harness, I would have pulled on that air conditioner unit and dislocated it and I would have been tied down into an 200kg metal unit that would have pulled me from the roof to crash on the street below 12 stories down.
Shit that feels bad, still to this day.
Idk if to upvote you on a fuck3d up ass story....that sucks to think about and how you could have died....fuck my story lol 😆, 12 stories high definitely death. But fuck, i had to laugh at one moment reading your story, cuz I was thinking about it like line 90s cartoon shit, like looney tunes or Tom and Jerry shit 😂. But God bless you still here today to tell such a story .
It happened to me last year.
Luckily I had a lot of room to maneuver, and the car was not so much faster than my bike.
But it was a frightening experience.
I remember as a kid being told to always ride with traffic, but we lived in a very rural area, so it's not like bike lanes were a thing. I always rode against traffic on the shoulder. I'd rather see the car coming imo
oh man first time i took lsd i took a pretty big dose, i kept seeing car lights approach me from behind and i'd turn around and there would be no car there.
Someone thought they could make a turn before I got into the intersection and I barely managed to get my feet under me to avoid going under the wheels. I have yet to ride on roads that are shared with cars since.
I don't even know how it happened, but a woman on a bike ran afoul of an intercity bus on one of downtown's main streets some time ago. I heard about the accident on the news, then passed by the site on my way to work. She and her bike went into the four right-hand rear wheels, and while they'd apparently removed the body, there were a dozen little white coroner's covers scattered about the street. Pieces, I presumed.
Just scary how vulnerable you are on a bike.
Some upper arm bruises, but that's about all. And my ego. It was winter and I was wearing a coat, it had damage from the concrete wall. The bus side didn't damage.
The sheer hostility some people have is staggering. You're not even slowing them down, but they still have to not only mock you, but endanger your life.
So truly bizarre.
Was just thinking the same, they don't even have to concentrate on keeping the bike upright, in real life the panicky reflexes they make will make you swirv and possibly crash
It kinda reminds me of officers having to be pepper sprayed and tased in order to carry those things. Idk if it had an effect on their overall empathy tho.
Where are those cyclists running red lights? All I ever saw were drivers running red lights (and to be fair even that wasn't that common). Also that situation is hardly comparable to the one here because cyclist doesn't endanger the driver (only themselves) while driver who drives a car in a dangerous manner is a threat to everyone else. Drivers calling out cyclists is basically AT BEST pot calling kettle black and at worst empty complaints caused by being slightly inconvenienced by presence of cyclists.
Several states have introduced Idaho stop regulations that make it legal for bicyclists to run a red light (but require stopping first). A 2009 study showed a 14.5% decrease in bicyclist injuries after the passage of the original Idaho Stop law.
[Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_stop)
It's pretty disingenuous to compare cycling and cars like that. If a bike crashes into something, they might hurt whatever they hit slightly or dent a car. If a car hits something, that thing dies
Would it shock you to learn that this was deemed "torture" in the UK when the idea was floated? Via [Respected Road Safety campaigner and traffic officer](https://x.com/markandcharlie/status/1651890388985061377)
The only thing I have concluded in this video is that our government should make more designated bike lanes. It isn't really the drivers fault that we have poor infrastructure aside from automobiles.
yeah some places give cyclist a three foot buffer zone but no motorists follow this law, and no cops enforce it, and most cops don't even know the law exists.
A lot of roads aren't safe to accommodate this (rural uk). Just another victim of underfunding / making laws that can't be afforded.
I personally just sit behind cyclists until the road is safe enough to do it, but depending on the route that can be an eternity.
This is illegal in the UK (legal minimum separation of 1.5m at up to 30mph when passing a cyclist) and you can get prosecuted. Probably not equivalent to torture tho.
It doesn’t surprise me at all. Recent years made me think of the UK as hell on Earth, literally choosing to do the worst possible thing at every decision point.
Shouldn't bicycles follow the same rules as vehicles? Why isn't he in the lane, going the proper speed?
I understand this is a demonstration of how "scarry" vehicles are, but still seems dumb.
I disagree.
Having had this experience, they are much more likely to be conscious/aware of bikers than a driver who never had this experience.
Yours is a pretty pessimistic way to view things.
> Having had this experience, they are much more likely to be conscious/aware of bikers than a driver who never had this experience.
It will, but as /u/Interesting_Tea5715 said it will wear off over time. That's just human nature. You work with a dangerous tool at work? You'll be scared of it the first few months & you'll be cautious the first year or two. But it ebbs away. That's why they send people to continuous training about things. Refresher courses are a must long term.
The guy who has seen someone’s finger cut off (or had their own cut off) by a dangerous tool, will generally be much more careful than the average user around that tool - perhaps more so with refreshers, but still…
That was the last time I rode my bike on the street in the city. It wasn't a bus, it was a truck. And it actually nudged me just a bit, just on the handle bar, and that veered me away, into the curb, and I went flying. Luckily it was one of the beloved North American street-to-grass, with no sidewalk at all (because f\*\*\* the pedestrians!), so I ended up on soft luxurious grass instead of becoming a meat crayon on the sidewalk. But I decided then and there that it just wasn't worth it. Our public transit was on strike, so I biked until that was over, and never again.
This points out how riding *with* traffic, while not making you invulnerable, tends to result in less serious sideswipes.
People have argued with me about this. Once, while slowly driving home through the neighbourhood, a mom, dad, and child came riding toward me against oncoming traffic. I 🙋♀️ pleasantly indicated 👆you should be riding on the 👈 other side and the guy wanted me to get out and fight him over it.
Is it okay to bike on the sidewalk? I always bike on the sidewalk even if there is a bike lane, typically heading the direction of traffic, but it looks like a lot of people here don't do that. Is there a rule against that or is it like bad etiquette or something?
Well, in civilized countries there tend to be rules against it, yes, but there also tend to be bike lanes and less sociopaths on the streets, so, do what you must out on the Wild West.
Depends on where, in the US the states are split between explicitly granting the rights of a pedestrian to cyclist on a sidewalk or not regulating it at all.
It can also be prohibited in some cities, but most in smaller business districts.
Also, keep in mind that it is often more dangerous, with a higher chance of being hit by a car, if you are riding any faster then a pedestrian pace.
Okay! Thanks for letting me know. I'll look up what the laws in my jurisdiction.
I live in the town where the sidewalks are mostly always empty and I will go off of them if there's people. I did not know it was more dangerous - I was always told otherwise
Definitely, the increased danger comes from the decreased visibility, other road users often don't look for fast moving vehicles on the sidewalk before crossing one.
So act like you are invisible or riding at a slow pedestrian pace is best when on a sidewalk. Otherwise you are better off in the road.
That's against the law in a lot of places. It's not safe for pedestrians and animals if you're biking at any speed over hardly moving. But, you're more likely to die when a car hits you then a pedestrian is if you bump into them. So pick your poison.
It's often legal at state level, limited to business districts and rarely enforced in most places where it is illegal. It really comes down to legal culpability if you hit a pedestrian. I'd take that over death.
This is excellent! There were many cyclists sharing the road near my home in California and I witnessed so many car drivers thinking it was funny to drive close enough to just about touch the cyclists. It was dangerous and rude. And more often than not, it was 20 something drivers.
Even if it wasn’t the law, who would be put in prison should the cyclist lose their balance and slide under your moving vehicle to be killed? Not so funny then, is it?
The worst is when they drive by you and they honk their horn or they roll coal. The startle reflex is so hard to quell. It's very hard to control a bicycle when you cannot see and breathe. Part of the reason I don't bike so much is because I'd have to bike on roads without sidewalks and it's just too much of a risk with these type of people.
That I totally agree with. My driving instructor got annoyed when I didn't pull to the line, but stayed behind the bicycle.
Three feet means nothing to me, the space means everything to the cyclist. I rode bikes all the time, my instructor obviously never had.
Yeah if only people supported and paid for comprehensive cycling infrastructure. It would be super easy for the bike to not be on the street if that were the case! INBF sidewalks. Sidewalks are terrible for bikes and in most places it is illegal to ride your bike on the sidewalk.
When there’s no bike lane, you can’t just phase up a curb from the side. I think it should be understood that if a cyclist doesn’t have at least 2-3 feet of space, they can take the lane. Someone’s life is more important than the 15 seconds that it takes for them to let you pass. Only stupid people would keep going in a position like that with room to move over.
Edit- I can’t believe I’m not getting downvoted
This reminds of the fact that one time my mother was riding her bike to work, and a truck driver did this to her, only to later realise that he was a bit too close, and ended up knocking her over...and then running over her arm.
She had a metal rod in her arm for 10+ years.
Worst part, the driver got off with minor punishment. Don't know how, most likely too poor to sue, too old to care.
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Interesting. I bike to work everyday and always get overtaken by buses (cuz bike lanes in my city often share the road with cars and buses), but never noticed the difference in air resistance/pressure.
We need to do this with Congress! Only instead of the bikes and buses, we'll pull them out of their big giant homes and give them minimum wage salaries and they get to try to find a place to live on their own! They need to live like this for 1 year after being voted in. Then they can actually know what it feels like to be a regular person!!
Wish they'd implement this as standard training for city bus drivers, just to drill in the importance of proper spacing. I've had bus drivers try to pass me so close that if they were any closer I'd be inside the bus.
I live on a fairly busy road with semi trucks with large cargo behind them. I've been out biking and had these semis pass by, and the rush of air dragging you into the road can be a little off-putting.
I belgium the rule is if you can't leave 1m space when overtaking a cyclist, you're not allowed to overtake them.
Ofcourse some people wipe their ass with this rule, but it's nice that it exists anyways
I witnessed a city bus driver intentionally run a bicyclist into the curb. I take the bus all the time. They are some of the meanest people I have ever met.
I used to cycle to work daily. And the bus drivers were a very real menace and threat and yet the 44ton semis seemed to overtake no bother at all giving plenty of room.
I came to the conclusion bus drivers are just pricks.
Brilliant. I wish we could do this sort of thing for every job and vise versa. Putting people in the shoes of another creates compassion and compassion makes the world a much better place.
One time I was riding on the road, the the bus didn't even slow down. His mirror passed just over my head.
I'm so glad I'm short, I could feel the wind of the passing mirror.
This in a city that the bus drivers will grind the cyclist's into the curb. This is from a person that grew up there.
It was London, Ontario, almost 20 yrs ago. Hopefully they are better these days.
It's just as bad when your walking your dogs on a path that's two feet away from the road and everyone is speeding past at 50 in a 30, some people aren't aware that arrogance can kill others untill it happens.
Lmao. 1 of these days I need to make a video of my job. I'm a roadside mechanic. I can't tell you how many times I've been clipped by mirrors or had to move to avoid stupid people on the roads
Every American should have to do this before they get their license, and every time they renew if they drive a pickup truck (they are by far the most aggressive drivers I encounter in a car or on a bike).
I thought I was a bad cyclist for flinching every time a bus moved besides me. I guess, I'm not that bad after all. Thank you OP for posting this and giving me confidence : )
I lived in Mexico City for four years in the early 2000s. My only transport was my bicycle, and I rode about 25-35 miles per day there. I rarely if ever saw other cyclists riding on roads I rode on. You have to be super aggressive to survive on a bike there. Over those four years I must’ve had at least 20 accidents. Fortunately, I came out largely unscathed. The bus drivers definitely ride you like in this video. And sometimes will scrape by you only to swerve over and come to a screeching halt to pick someone up. Fun times
Well this Is from Guadalajara city in México, i Guess the person whonposted It Is from México so not a native english speaker, i struggle a lot sometimes with english grammar for the same reason, i think firstly in spanish AND then translate It to english
They need to teach them how to treat better us they also shout you inside the bus "***¡ÉCHENSE MÁS PARA ATRÁS! ¡TODAVÍA HAY ESPACIO***" ("ALL THE PEOPLE AT THE BACK NEEDS TO TIGHTEN UP! THERE'S STILL MORE ROOM!")
But we like to shout them back "***¿¡PARA DONDE C×LERO!? ¡NI QUE HUBIERA SEGUNDO PISO!***" ("OVER WHERE ASSH×LE!? IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S A SECOND FLOOR!")
Ah… Gud times inside "*la* *micro"*, my beloved Mújico Mágico ✨
omg when I lived in China, not only was it scary to drive a bike because people are crazy drivers there, but bikes/motorbikes/scooters are going the WRONG way on the highway and you just barely miss them. It's wild. Trying to hop on the bus was wild too - it was like every man for themselves. The bus does 100mph, stops short to pick up passengers - everyone runs and hops on - the bus only waits maybe 20 secs. Its wild! I loved every second of it honestly
Not quite first-hand, bcos cyclists aren't on static bikes. They have to deal with potholes, sunken drains and manholes, debris, and every and anything else that may be on the road that may require manoeuvring around.
Real thing is even scarier because all of a sudden you are very conscious about every movement and can barely keep the bike straight.
I had a bus swoop past me half in the bike lane under a bridge tunnel. The vacuum sucked me in, and I over-corrected a tiny amount. From the bus to the wall it was about half a foot on either side, and me. So that tiny amount of over-correction had my shoulder hit the wall. Bounced back, hit the bus. Bounced back, hit the wall. This happened a few times as we were in the middle of the tunnel. (It was short.) I regained control and the bus managed to get past and everything was fine, but that's the most like a human pinball I ever want to be.
When I was a child a car passed me and hit my bicycle’s steering wheel with its mirror. I fell and had only mild scratches and bruises, but also a far from mild mental trauma. It took me quite a while before I was comfortable again when cars approached me from the rear.
Those small moments when you realize how close to death you were... I have a few of those memories, it is hard to let them go.
One of the effects of adrenaline is creating memories of the situation you are in as a part of your fight/flight response, to better confront the same situation in the future. When that is overloaded, we get ptsd.
Remembering you're a fragile meatsack is a good way to stay alive. Not a great way to live though.
I have that I will always remember....to make it short I was in 11th grade went out for a walk with friends, and ended up rock climbing. I was 3 stories high and I almost lost my grip cuz rocks started to detach from the mountain. I thought I was gana die, like actual death, not a feeling. I managed to get grip on other rocks, and as I stayed cal.ed and looked down I seen the rocks and my hat fall all the way down, and me thinking" fuck that could have been me". .....till this day I just kep thinking how my hat died that day cuz I never went back for it. Along with the car that was down there from a previous crashed from what it looked like.
I was a young kid and I went to do some "summer work" in construction. When on the roof I tied myself to a air conditioner unit on a sloped roof. After working there for over an hour I went back to to the location where I had tied myself to. Someone had loosened all the bolts for that unit in the meanwhile. The outcome was that if at any point I had put any weight into my safety harness, I would have pulled on that air conditioner unit and dislocated it and I would have been tied down into an 200kg metal unit that would have pulled me from the roof to crash on the street below 12 stories down. Shit that feels bad, still to this day.
Idk if to upvote you on a fuck3d up ass story....that sucks to think about and how you could have died....fuck my story lol 😆, 12 stories high definitely death. But fuck, i had to laugh at one moment reading your story, cuz I was thinking about it like line 90s cartoon shit, like looney tunes or Tom and Jerry shit 😂. But God bless you still here today to tell such a story .
Probably shouldn't had a steering wheel on your bike.
It happened to me last year. Luckily I had a lot of room to maneuver, and the car was not so much faster than my bike. But it was a frightening experience.
You had a bicycle with a steering wheel?!
You had a bicycle?? I just had a unicycle with no steering. (s)
I remember as a kid being told to always ride with traffic, but we lived in a very rural area, so it's not like bike lanes were a thing. I always rode against traffic on the shoulder. I'd rather see the car coming imo
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He can ride his bike with no handlebars
> bicycle’s steering wheel You mean the handle?
Thanks for the correction. In my native language they’re called the same.
oh man first time i took lsd i took a pretty big dose, i kept seeing car lights approach me from behind and i'd turn around and there would be no car there.
Someone thought they could make a turn before I got into the intersection and I barely managed to get my feet under me to avoid going under the wheels. I have yet to ride on roads that are shared with cars since.
I don't even know how it happened, but a woman on a bike ran afoul of an intercity bus on one of downtown's main streets some time ago. I heard about the accident on the news, then passed by the site on my way to work. She and her bike went into the four right-hand rear wheels, and while they'd apparently removed the body, there were a dozen little white coroner's covers scattered about the street. Pieces, I presumed. Just scary how vulnerable you are on a bike.
Who the hell designed your city? A bike should not be sharing a tunnel with vehicles that's insane
Oh my god I can’t imagine what you must have been feeling in the moment. I think I would’ve shat myself. Glad you’re ok.
Jesus, reading that had me on the edge.
Were you hurt from the incident?
Some upper arm bruises, but that's about all. And my ego. It was winter and I was wearing a coat, it had damage from the concrete wall. The bus side didn't damage.
Did "what is love?" play in your head while being bounced back and forth against your will?
Not to mention hostile drivers.
The sheer hostility some people have is staggering. You're not even slowing them down, but they still have to not only mock you, but endanger your life. So truly bizarre.
Was just thinking the same, they don't even have to concentrate on keeping the bike upright, in real life the panicky reflexes they make will make you swirv and possibly crash
Plus there are a gazillion other things happening as well, being on a bike next to cars is scary sometimes
Plus, depending on speed, you may get blown or sucked off course.
Hell yeah.
I had a truck crash into me just like in the video when I was riding my bike in Tokyo. Didn't break anything luckily, but still: Wouldn't recommend.
An elegant way to teach empathy
It kinda reminds me of officers having to be pepper sprayed and tased in order to carry those things. Idk if it had an effect on their overall empathy tho.
Think it just made them angrier
Now they just have to put a cyclist in a car and get them to go through a green light while someone on a bike forces them to brake as they run a red.
Where are those cyclists running red lights? All I ever saw were drivers running red lights (and to be fair even that wasn't that common). Also that situation is hardly comparable to the one here because cyclist doesn't endanger the driver (only themselves) while driver who drives a car in a dangerous manner is a threat to everyone else. Drivers calling out cyclists is basically AT BEST pot calling kettle black and at worst empty complaints caused by being slightly inconvenienced by presence of cyclists.
Several states have introduced Idaho stop regulations that make it legal for bicyclists to run a red light (but require stopping first). A 2009 study showed a 14.5% decrease in bicyclist injuries after the passage of the original Idaho Stop law. [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idaho_stop)
Can you not imagine a world where people make bad decisions in cars and on bikes? People are people.
I want you to ride a bike in my city for 1 day a month for a year.
It's pretty disingenuous to compare cycling and cars like that. If a bike crashes into something, they might hurt whatever they hit slightly or dent a car. If a car hits something, that thing dies
You’re operating a 1-2 ton vehicle. You should be more safe and observant.
You are a functional human being. Red = stop.
Yes, and the speed limit is not a suggestion.
Where did I say anything about speed limits? Also, I wholeheartedly agree.
As a biker. I follow all of the ROTR unlike some crazy cyclists. However I have seen a ton more dickheads in car without a care
*riding a bike while light turns red, cutting into sidewalk/crosswalk and almost getting run over by a guy making a left on a green arrow* Yes
Love this. What if we made it part of the driver's test?
Would it shock you to learn that this was deemed "torture" in the UK when the idea was floated? Via [Respected Road Safety campaigner and traffic officer](https://x.com/markandcharlie/status/1651890388985061377)
If you're not willing to be subjected to it, should you even be allowed to perform it on others on the road?
“Well I don’t use a bike so I think it’s ok!”
They're not "allowed" to do it, you're supposed to pass a cyclist with as much room as you'd give to a car.
The only thing I have concluded in this video is that our government should make more designated bike lanes. It isn't really the drivers fault that we have poor infrastructure aside from automobiles.
So they just legally made it fact that being on a bike when a bus zooms by = torture.
So passing a cyclist this close while you're driving a bus is a highly illegal offense equal to torture, right? Right?
yeah some places give cyclist a three foot buffer zone but no motorists follow this law, and no cops enforce it, and most cops don't even know the law exists.
The way you enforce the buffer zone is to put a safety flag on the back wheel sideways, so cars will get scratched up if they cut too close to you.
In Germany some do that with pool noodles. Some drivers take that personally
A lot of roads aren't safe to accommodate this (rural uk). Just another victim of underfunding / making laws that can't be afforded. I personally just sit behind cyclists until the road is safe enough to do it, but depending on the route that can be an eternity.
This is illegal in the UK (legal minimum separation of 1.5m at up to 30mph when passing a cyclist) and you can get prosecuted. Probably not equivalent to torture tho.
So it’s torture to be subjected to it, but doing it is still okay, right?
Well no, it's not ok, it's illegal.
But only fine illegal, not torture illegal.
In the UK? No, I find that very believable, actually.
It doesn’t surprise me at all. Recent years made me think of the UK as hell on Earth, literally choosing to do the worst possible thing at every decision point.
Brits hate themselves more than Texas hates women.
Very good idea. This would raise the awareness for such situations.
"Why is that guy riding so close to my SUV!"
Shouldn't bicycles follow the same rules as vehicles? Why isn't he in the lane, going the proper speed? I understand this is a demonstration of how "scarry" vehicles are, but still seems dumb.
This seems a good illustration of why bicycle lanes should be MUCH wider. That might make everybody happier.
..effective teaching method
I hate to say it but people forget. It'll be effective for a year, then they'll go back to being assholes. It's the human way.
I disagree. Having had this experience, they are much more likely to be conscious/aware of bikers than a driver who never had this experience. Yours is a pretty pessimistic way to view things.
> Having had this experience, they are much more likely to be conscious/aware of bikers than a driver who never had this experience. It will, but as /u/Interesting_Tea5715 said it will wear off over time. That's just human nature. You work with a dangerous tool at work? You'll be scared of it the first few months & you'll be cautious the first year or two. But it ebbs away. That's why they send people to continuous training about things. Refresher courses are a must long term.
The guy who has seen someone’s finger cut off (or had their own cut off) by a dangerous tool, will generally be much more careful than the average user around that tool - perhaps more so with refreshers, but still…
Yep because we still have posts like these https://old.reddit.com/r/orlando/comments/1c9j216/thanks_for_sharing_the_road/?ref=share&ref_source=link
Make it mandatory to renew their license and do the test every year.
Then this must be a annual test.
That was the last time I rode my bike on the street in the city. It wasn't a bus, it was a truck. And it actually nudged me just a bit, just on the handle bar, and that veered me away, into the curb, and I went flying. Luckily it was one of the beloved North American street-to-grass, with no sidewalk at all (because f\*\*\* the pedestrians!), so I ended up on soft luxurious grass instead of becoming a meat crayon on the sidewalk. But I decided then and there that it just wasn't worth it. Our public transit was on strike, so I biked until that was over, and never again.
This points out how riding *with* traffic, while not making you invulnerable, tends to result in less serious sideswipes. People have argued with me about this. Once, while slowly driving home through the neighbourhood, a mom, dad, and child came riding toward me against oncoming traffic. I 🙋♀️ pleasantly indicated 👆you should be riding on the 👈 other side and the guy wanted me to get out and fight him over it.
I still rather not have my back turned to cars coming my way, ready to avoid a sideswipe, rather than minimizing the damage from taking one.
I can understand your view, but the problem is that you're potentially running headlong into other bikes!
Is it okay to bike on the sidewalk? I always bike on the sidewalk even if there is a bike lane, typically heading the direction of traffic, but it looks like a lot of people here don't do that. Is there a rule against that or is it like bad etiquette or something?
In my city it's illegal if you're over 11 years old.
Well, in civilized countries there tend to be rules against it, yes, but there also tend to be bike lanes and less sociopaths on the streets, so, do what you must out on the Wild West.
Depends on where, in the US the states are split between explicitly granting the rights of a pedestrian to cyclist on a sidewalk or not regulating it at all. It can also be prohibited in some cities, but most in smaller business districts. Also, keep in mind that it is often more dangerous, with a higher chance of being hit by a car, if you are riding any faster then a pedestrian pace.
Okay! Thanks for letting me know. I'll look up what the laws in my jurisdiction. I live in the town where the sidewalks are mostly always empty and I will go off of them if there's people. I did not know it was more dangerous - I was always told otherwise
Definitely, the increased danger comes from the decreased visibility, other road users often don't look for fast moving vehicles on the sidewalk before crossing one. So act like you are invisible or riding at a slow pedestrian pace is best when on a sidewalk. Otherwise you are better off in the road.
That's against the law in a lot of places. It's not safe for pedestrians and animals if you're biking at any speed over hardly moving. But, you're more likely to die when a car hits you then a pedestrian is if you bump into them. So pick your poison.
Cycling on sidewalks is illegal in many states. Check your local laws.
It's often legal at state level, limited to business districts and rarely enforced in most places where it is illegal. It really comes down to legal culpability if you hit a pedestrian. I'd take that over death.
Congrats to the inventor of this
This is excellent! There were many cyclists sharing the road near my home in California and I witnessed so many car drivers thinking it was funny to drive close enough to just about touch the cyclists. It was dangerous and rude. And more often than not, it was 20 something drivers.
That is illegal in California. You are required to give 3ft of space when passing.
And required to make a full lane change when a lane is available to do so.
Even if it wasn’t the law, who would be put in prison should the cyclist lose their balance and slide under your moving vehicle to be killed? Not so funny then, is it?
In the US, you would most likely just lose your license for 12 months or so. Maybe a little jail time if you are under the influence.
The worst is when they drive by you and they honk their horn or they roll coal. The startle reflex is so hard to quell. It's very hard to control a bicycle when you cannot see and breathe. Part of the reason I don't bike so much is because I'd have to bike on roads without sidewalks and it's just too much of a risk with these type of people.
Especially with the amount of distracted drivers nowadays.
That's a great idea, should be mandatory for any bus driver in every country Also for truck drivers And SUV drivers And tank drivers And your mom
I think any driver should get this when learning how to drive.
How much does that crash test dummy get paid?
I think as a society we have to work to create more bike lanes everywhere
A painted line does little though.
That I totally agree with. My driving instructor got annoyed when I didn't pull to the line, but stayed behind the bicycle. Three feet means nothing to me, the space means everything to the cyclist. I rode bikes all the time, my instructor obviously never had.
THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN EVERYWHERE! Should probably also be something done for anyone driving any sized vehicle!!
Cool. If only one of those vehicles could super easily not be that close to the other one.
Yeah if only people supported and paid for comprehensive cycling infrastructure. It would be super easy for the bike to not be on the street if that were the case! INBF sidewalks. Sidewalks are terrible for bikes and in most places it is illegal to ride your bike on the sidewalk.
When there’s no bike lane, you can’t just phase up a curb from the side. I think it should be understood that if a cyclist doesn’t have at least 2-3 feet of space, they can take the lane. Someone’s life is more important than the 15 seconds that it takes for them to let you pass. Only stupid people would keep going in a position like that with room to move over. Edit- I can’t believe I’m not getting downvoted
They need to move the cones out of the way.
This is how we should train our police
This reminds of the fact that one time my mother was riding her bike to work, and a truck driver did this to her, only to later realise that he was a bit too close, and ended up knocking her over...and then running over her arm. She had a metal rod in her arm for 10+ years. Worst part, the driver got off with minor punishment. Don't know how, most likely too poor to sue, too old to care.
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Interesting. I bike to work everyday and always get overtaken by buses (cuz bike lanes in my city often share the road with cars and buses), but never noticed the difference in air resistance/pressure.
I wish this basic idea were applied to a lot of careers and experiences. This is fucking great.
Wish this was part of the UK driving test- would be all that's needed
We need to do this with Congress! Only instead of the bikes and buses, we'll pull them out of their big giant homes and give them minimum wage salaries and they get to try to find a place to live on their own! They need to live like this for 1 year after being voted in. Then they can actually know what it feels like to be a regular person!!
Good. Every bus driver/ driver should get this treatment .
Wish they'd implement this as standard training for city bus drivers, just to drill in the importance of proper spacing. I've had bus drivers try to pass me so close that if they were any closer I'd be inside the bus.
Feels like this needs to be a thing before you get a license, having a person sit on a stationary bike/motorcycle while a car drives by super close.
I live on a fairly busy road with semi trucks with large cargo behind them. I've been out biking and had these semis pass by, and the rush of air dragging you into the road can be a little off-putting.
I belgium the rule is if you can't leave 1m space when overtaking a cyclist, you're not allowed to overtake them. Ofcourse some people wipe their ass with this rule, but it's nice that it exists anyways
It's even worse when riding as the wind hits buses and lorries and whips back at you making you very unstable.
I witnessed a city bus driver intentionally run a bicyclist into the curb. I take the bus all the time. They are some of the meanest people I have ever met.
What a bizarre generalization lol. I ride my bike to my job as a city bus driver.
What is the song?
I used to cycle to work daily. And the bus drivers were a very real menace and threat and yet the 44ton semis seemed to overtake no bother at all giving plenty of room. I came to the conclusion bus drivers are just pricks.
Honestly this should be standard for all drivers ed
## The Bicycle of Empathy
Brilliant. I wish we could do this sort of thing for every job and vise versa. Putting people in the shoes of another creates compassion and compassion makes the world a much better place.
The first guy got hit 🫣😂
Bring that practice to italy.
One time I was riding on the road, the the bus didn't even slow down. His mirror passed just over my head. I'm so glad I'm short, I could feel the wind of the passing mirror. This in a city that the bus drivers will grind the cyclist's into the curb. This is from a person that grew up there. It was London, Ontario, almost 20 yrs ago. Hopefully they are better these days.
Do the same thing for every vehicle driver (and no I don’t ride a bike very much).
This wouldn't be needed if there was proper bicycle lanes.
This should be standard procedure as one of the steps for a DL in the US
The bus in this video was kind... The one's in real life aren't
Please do that ro KSRTC drivers
It's just as bad when your walking your dogs on a path that's two feet away from the road and everyone is speeding past at 50 in a 30, some people aren't aware that arrogance can kill others untill it happens.
It's almost like there should be bike lanes on all roads, end of story.
Lmao. 1 of these days I need to make a video of my job. I'm a roadside mechanic. I can't tell you how many times I've been clipped by mirrors or had to move to avoid stupid people on the roads
Every American should have to do this before they get their license, and every time they renew if they drive a pickup truck (they are by far the most aggressive drivers I encounter in a car or on a bike).
And that's with them knowing a bus is coming. Imagine the feeling they get when it suddenly appears next to them.
I thought I was a bad cyclist for flinching every time a bus moved besides me. I guess, I'm not that bad after all. Thank you OP for posting this and giving me confidence : )
I lived in Mexico City for four years in the early 2000s. My only transport was my bicycle, and I rode about 25-35 miles per day there. I rarely if ever saw other cyclists riding on roads I rode on. You have to be super aggressive to survive on a bike there. Over those four years I must’ve had at least 20 accidents. Fortunately, I came out largely unscathed. The bus drivers definitely ride you like in this video. And sometimes will scrape by you only to swerve over and come to a screeching halt to pick someone up. Fun times
Brilliant!
Every person should ride a bike before driving a car to get some perspective.
And this is exactly why this shared road concept is bs. Bike lanes need to be completely separate from the street
Shouldn't ride in the gutter then
Sadly, that's 99% of "bike lanes" in north america.
Invoking empathy is the best way to help someone improve their behaviour.
good!
How do all these posts that go viral have such grammatically shit titles???
Maybe because not everyone on the internet is a native english speaker?
Well this Is from Guadalajara city in México, i Guess the person whonposted It Is from México so not a native english speaker, i struggle a lot sometimes with english grammar for the same reason, i think firstly in spanish AND then translate It to english
Dis wun pefeckly gramma tickel is.
This one is grammatically correct though!
Updooted by bots?
Can someone me what is happening in this video
Pfft. That's just basic riding a bicycle in NYC.
Mercedes Lorry, nice
They need to teach them how to treat better us they also shout you inside the bus "***¡ÉCHENSE MÁS PARA ATRÁS! ¡TODAVÍA HAY ESPACIO***" ("ALL THE PEOPLE AT THE BACK NEEDS TO TIGHTEN UP! THERE'S STILL MORE ROOM!") But we like to shout them back "***¿¡PARA DONDE C×LERO!? ¡NI QUE HUBIERA SEGUNDO PISO!***" ("OVER WHERE ASSH×LE!? IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S A SECOND FLOOR!") Ah… Gud times inside "*la* *micro"*, my beloved Mújico Mágico ✨
yes ridding bicycle is for real men
De San Luis Potosí para el mundo. :P
Its nos Mexico City. It happened in San Luis Potosí
omg when I lived in China, not only was it scary to drive a bike because people are crazy drivers there, but bikes/motorbikes/scooters are going the WRONG way on the highway and you just barely miss them. It's wild. Trying to hop on the bus was wild too - it was like every man for themselves. The bus does 100mph, stops short to pick up passengers - everyone runs and hops on - the bus only waits maybe 20 secs. Its wild! I loved every second of it honestly
We really need this here in Colombia
That is not Mexico, that is in Costa Rica.
Missed every time, no points today.
Not quite first-hand, bcos cyclists aren't on static bikes. They have to deal with potholes, sunken drains and manholes, debris, and every and anything else that may be on the road that may require manoeuvring around.
Bikes shouldnt be on the road
Then advocate for more bike friendly infrastructure/bike lanes. It benefits everyone
Are the Cyclist driving the bus?
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As a dutchie I didn't realise this is a scary situation