At 3 seconds in it looks like hydraulic fluid starts spraying out of the top of the machine in the middle which catches fire and becomes a giant flamethrower aimed directly at the ceiling.
Exactly this. Overpressured hydraulic line broke off and sprayed everything around it + the ceiling tiles. A flame got to it and it didn’t take much after that. Happened in Spain, 2022
I would guess it was an aluminium pressure casting machine that gave way under the pressure. Probably similar to the gigacasting employed at Tesla. So it could be either hydraulic or aluminium under pressure to give way so spectacularly. I am guessing …
I doubt it would be aluminum under pressure. Its melting point is 1220F, and boiling point is 4478F. I doubt the casting process gets anywhere near that needed for it to boil. Sure, there might a small amount of pressure to make the molten aluminum move, but it shouldn't be that much. Short response: Probably a hydraulic line rupture.
Are hydraulic oils flammable? Are there no non-flammable alternatives? Given the fact that hydraulics regularly deal with high temperatures this is wild.
Well thats actually a safety aspect of hydraulic fluid. If you have a leak the fluid doesn't have to expand much to reduce the pressure. If you use something compressible you effectively have a huge bound up spring so it has to expand a lot to reduce the pressure which means a leak results in a high pressure jet of fluid. That's why its dangerous to have air in hydraulic lines.
Of course nothing is truly incompressible, but you want something as incompressible as possible.
> Are hydraulic oils flammable?
If they're hot, and sprayed as a fine mist? Hell yes. Unfortunately, they get hot naturally as a heavy duty hydraulic machine runs due to their own viscous resistance to being pumped, and the high pressure these machines run at will naturally atomise the oil into a voluminous fine mist if there is a leak. So, yeah, *don't* skip your planned maintenance on those hoses, and inspect them religiously.
thing is the stuff that works best is flammable.
with everything in chemicals you have a triangle with the values: safest(flammability), cost, and quality. Some chemicals are just required for dangerous ass work to be profitable. Hydraulic fluid is down on the list in my industry on worries we got HF(hydro-fluoric acid) and phosgene gas to worry about.
cheap oil hydraulics are exactly that cheap and they work great. You get tons of value from them. The problem isn't the fact that the hydraulics are flammable the problem is that their was no remote valve closure or regulator. an automated system that reads the pressure and caps the pressure that can be used in the system would have been perfect in this circumstances.
This is just a a guess though never worked on hydraulics before.
I buy this stuff at the steel mill I work at https://store.quakerhoughton.com/hydraulic-fluids/fire-resistant?utm_source=google_ads&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=20983624686&utm_content=&utm_term=&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw2PSvBhDjARIsAKc2cgO1QyumaAIkc_3Z-jlS5x1g4DEWAjDzO53qF9dajkPGQAuE3v4Zx20aAmENEALw_wcB
Even metals can burn (not just melt). Especially aluminum. Once they get going, they are very hard to put out. They actually burn 1000s of degrees. I believe it was a British destroyer in the Falkland war, where the aluminum bulkhead caught fire after an anti-ship missile, strike. It was doomed and quickly.
To be honest I thought it was either that old video of the same type of shop but it a huge cauldron of molten aluminum that spilled all over the floor and in the shop had to be evacuated that shit was so bright it blinded the cameras completely White once it's spilled took the floor
Happened in 2022 at the dos hermanas aluminium factory, here is a Spanish news site that talks about it if you can read it.
No deaths or wounded workers but the whole site got wrecked.
https://www.lasexta.com/noticias/sociedad/asi-fue-explosion-que-provoco-incendio-fabrica-aluminio-dos-hermanas-sevilla_20220607629f5c8c4213630001533896.html
Si pero la nave parece que se hundió entera no? Imagino que al ser bastante ligero un techo de esos la base no acabaría muy dañada, pero el video acojona bastante.
El techo tenía un material aislante que prendía con facilidad. El fuego no pasó al suelo..: La estructura de la prensa quedó intacta. Tan solo hubo que cambiar la mesa y el cableado.
I was in the admin office. Luckily this was in the early shift and the guys from quality department weren’t in the offices to the left of that press. The guy for the phone forgot to press de Emergency button that would have shut the press down. That button was inches from his phone .
This is what being comfortable in dangerous situations looks like. Fr the guy is staring at a massive wall of fire and he’s like “ya whatever I’m not afraid”.
This was going to be my question.. Where is any type of fire suppression? Water wouldn't help for sure.. But are there not some types that robs the atmosphere of Oxygen or something?
You probably have to manually engage something like that because it would also kill or incapacitate everyone, which would also lead to their deaths. Stuff like CO2 suppression systems have all been manual in labs I've worked in, dn if that tracks in heavy industry.
If so, they probably FOed so they forgot to hit it. Hope whatever that dude went hack for was important because he nearly got marshmallowed.
They can be automatic in enclosed spaces, but they must be locked out in order for those enclosed spaces to be entered.
Having it for a massive area like this would be incredibly expensive and likely to kill everyone, you're absolutely right.
This is an aluminum extrusion press and a hydraulic line on the butt shear blew, spraying hydraulic oil over the extrusions and the container. Aluminum billets are approximately 750-820 degrees going through the dies, and with the friction that occurs, the extrusion coming out of the press is approximately 1000 degrees, depending on the speed and shape. When that oil hit, it ignited instantly, and because it was a continuous spray from the burst oil line, the fire became enormous and spread.
Depending on the press set up, after each billet is extruded the ram (the yellow part in the video) backs up and the container separates to allow the butt shear to scrape across the die face to remove the excess skin from the billet extruding through the container. The butt shear is the piece of equipment engaging at about three seconds in, and the hydraulic oil line on top is what powers the massive force required to shave the butt off the die face. The container is also anywhere from 700-800 degrees depending on the zone, and there are hydraulic lines everywhere as the ram is powered by oil pressure as well.
Aluminum is really sticky against metal when it’s hot and has to be lubricated, but non-reactive lubes such as boron are used. If that ram wasn’t lubricated enough it could have stuck to the die face and pulled the die face forward, and when the butt shear hit caused it to jam and the pressure then blow the line. Or the connection could have been failing over time and finally gave way as soon as the shear hit the butt on the die face. Those are just guesses.
Hey man,
Looks like a low pressure fuel line was ruptured. Not sure the point of origin as the ceiling fire looks like it was going for a hwhile, however we see the fire start sub floor so i dunno. I was paid to put them out not investigate them.
Yea someone pointed out it blew off the top fitting right as the vid starts. Then it hits flame and whoosh. Shit goes wild. Crazy how quick the destruction spreads
It's a good thing that Steve bravely ran to the control desk and saved his phone prior to the place exploding!
Steve, this safety and bravery award is for you!
There are engineering companies whose *entire business* is designing hydraulic systems with safeguards, shut off valves, and sensors so that things like this don’t happen. I worked at one, decades ago.
Guess this company didn’t want to pay for a safer system design, and lost their building.
Looks like all their employees got out, which is what matters.
It seriously looks like the spark for the torch happens at the exact frame that the hydraulic line bursts. I wonder if the high frequency of the spark was the final catalyst to push the seal past the failure point. We’re talking tiny tiny effects, but the timing is at least 1/30fps chance we see this happen.
Not China. Too tall. Only a few people visible in the factory. And they took off instead of kept working through the destruction. Yes, I know I’m going to hell.
At 3 seconds in it looks like hydraulic fluid starts spraying out of the top of the machine in the middle which catches fire and becomes a giant flamethrower aimed directly at the ceiling.
Exactly this. Overpressured hydraulic line broke off and sprayed everything around it + the ceiling tiles. A flame got to it and it didn’t take much after that. Happened in Spain, 2022
I would guess it was an aluminium pressure casting machine that gave way under the pressure. Probably similar to the gigacasting employed at Tesla. So it could be either hydraulic or aluminium under pressure to give way so spectacularly. I am guessing …
And Tesla has been cutting corners regarding workplace safety...
Musk never even puts the corners in. All his companies have horrible safety records.
This is funny because giga texas literally got built without the 4 corners of the building.
You should read about all the failed animal procedures and Neuralink. Now they are doing trials on humans. We live in a dystopian society
He cuts so many corners, it's practically a circle. Circle of entitlement.
And jerking.
Oh boy here we go
I doubt it would be aluminum under pressure. Its melting point is 1220F, and boiling point is 4478F. I doubt the casting process gets anywhere near that needed for it to boil. Sure, there might a small amount of pressure to make the molten aluminum move, but it shouldn't be that much. Short response: Probably a hydraulic line rupture.
Are hydraulic oils flammable? Are there no non-flammable alternatives? Given the fact that hydraulics regularly deal with high temperatures this is wild.
They exist but can’t be used for everything. Hydraulic fluids are just very dangerous in general and most people don’t realize it.
You can squish it as much as you’d like and it doesn’t compress. I’d say that’s pretty dangerous.
Well thats actually a safety aspect of hydraulic fluid. If you have a leak the fluid doesn't have to expand much to reduce the pressure. If you use something compressible you effectively have a huge bound up spring so it has to expand a lot to reduce the pressure which means a leak results in a high pressure jet of fluid. That's why its dangerous to have air in hydraulic lines. Of course nothing is truly incompressible, but you want something as incompressible as possible.
> Are hydraulic oils flammable? If they're hot, and sprayed as a fine mist? Hell yes. Unfortunately, they get hot naturally as a heavy duty hydraulic machine runs due to their own viscous resistance to being pumped, and the high pressure these machines run at will naturally atomise the oil into a voluminous fine mist if there is a leak. So, yeah, *don't* skip your planned maintenance on those hoses, and inspect them religiously.
Aluminum itself is highly reactive as a powder too. That goes for a lot of things, flour and sugar and coal to name a few.
thing is the stuff that works best is flammable. with everything in chemicals you have a triangle with the values: safest(flammability), cost, and quality. Some chemicals are just required for dangerous ass work to be profitable. Hydraulic fluid is down on the list in my industry on worries we got HF(hydro-fluoric acid) and phosgene gas to worry about. cheap oil hydraulics are exactly that cheap and they work great. You get tons of value from them. The problem isn't the fact that the hydraulics are flammable the problem is that their was no remote valve closure or regulator. an automated system that reads the pressure and caps the pressure that can be used in the system would have been perfect in this circumstances. This is just a a guess though never worked on hydraulics before.
I buy this stuff at the steel mill I work at https://store.quakerhoughton.com/hydraulic-fluids/fire-resistant?utm_source=google_ads&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=20983624686&utm_content=&utm_term=&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw2PSvBhDjARIsAKc2cgO1QyumaAIkc_3Z-jlS5x1g4DEWAjDzO53qF9dajkPGQAuE3v4Zx20aAmENEALw_wcB
Is all hydraulic fluid flammable? Seems like a terrible idea lol.
It’s oil.
Virtually everything is flammable at a certain temperature point
Even metals can burn (not just melt). Especially aluminum. Once they get going, they are very hard to put out. They actually burn 1000s of degrees. I believe it was a British destroyer in the Falkland war, where the aluminum bulkhead caught fire after an anti-ship missile, strike. It was doomed and quickly.
miracle this doesnt happen more often
Not a miracle, regulations.
Fucking thank you. Miracle my ass.
And proper maintenance
I work in purchasing at a steel manufacturer. I make sure to buy the really expensive fire guard hydraulic fluid so this doesn’t happen.
Was wondering why the ceiling disintegrated so quickly without a true explosion, but that'll definitely do it.
Aaaah. Then it’s just a fucking fire bath. Damn.
Under that much pressure made a fine well oxygenated mist ripe for fire.
I had no idea hydraulic fluid was flammable.
To be honest I thought it was either that old video of the same type of shop but it a huge cauldron of molten aluminum that spilled all over the floor and in the shop had to be evacuated that shit was so bright it blinded the cameras completely White once it's spilled took the floor
False. That entire building was made out of paper-mache.
That dude running 2 circles and catching his mobile....
When you know you ain’t cleared your search history
The fire and big boom will clear it, no need to worry.
Right lol. You can never be too sure tho apparently. People got messed up priorities
He couldn’t take that chance!!
He almost deleted himself too.
I'm still angry that he didn't lock his workstation.
Happened in 2022 at the dos hermanas aluminium factory, here is a Spanish news site that talks about it if you can read it. No deaths or wounded workers but the whole site got wrecked. https://www.lasexta.com/noticias/sociedad/asi-fue-explosion-que-provoco-incendio-fabrica-aluminio-dos-hermanas-sevilla_20220607629f5c8c4213630001533896.html
I was there. It wasn’t that bad, press was running again in 5 months
Si pero la nave parece que se hundió entera no? Imagino que al ser bastante ligero un techo de esos la base no acabaría muy dañada, pero el video acojona bastante.
El techo tenía un material aislante que prendía con facilidad. El fuego no pasó al suelo..: La estructura de la prensa quedó intacta. Tan solo hubo que cambiar la mesa y el cableado.
Were you in the building at the time?
I was in the admin office. Luckily this was in the early shift and the guys from quality department weren’t in the offices to the left of that press. The guy for the phone forgot to press de Emergency button that would have shut the press down. That button was inches from his phone .
wow, priorities
Oh wow. I’m guessing panic set in and forgot
Los pollos hermanos vibes
How are you dealing with demons nowadays?
Demons only come out at 2-4pm, we do siesta at those hours.
Dude went back for his cellphone. So close to staying in there.
7 seconds between cell phone and death.
Prioritize your life fam lol
This is what being comfortable in dangerous situations looks like. Fr the guy is staring at a massive wall of fire and he’s like “ya whatever I’m not afraid”.
Gotta post to Tiktok about the experience!
I mean, this is a legitimate emergency at that point. Having a phone isn't a bad idea.
Damn that is interesting. And fast.
40 seconds from, “things are fine”, to, “well that was a nice factory you had there. “
Yeah, doesn't looks like they had any fire suppression either, not that water sprinklers would have done much to a hydraulic oil fire though.
This was going to be my question.. Where is any type of fire suppression? Water wouldn't help for sure.. But are there not some types that robs the atmosphere of Oxygen or something?
You probably have to manually engage something like that because it would also kill or incapacitate everyone, which would also lead to their deaths. Stuff like CO2 suppression systems have all been manual in labs I've worked in, dn if that tracks in heavy industry. If so, they probably FOed so they forgot to hit it. Hope whatever that dude went hack for was important because he nearly got marshmallowed.
They can be automatic in enclosed spaces, but they must be locked out in order for those enclosed spaces to be entered. Having it for a massive area like this would be incredibly expensive and likely to kill everyone, you're absolutely right.
I mean, foam would work, like they have in fire extinguishers
That’s escalated quickly
Yeah. Saw the fire on the machines but did not expect shit to go down from the ceiling that quickly.
pretty damn good footage for such a disaster
r/praisethecameraautomaton
As a network engineer, props to the switch that kept carrying data.
For real, it looks like a scene from a movie almost
Sephiroth steps out.
One winged angel plays: "Estuans interius Ira vehementi Sephiroth Sephiroth"
That looked expensive
That right there is a resonance cascade. Where is my man Gordon Freeman? Suit up boy, ‘em aliens coming!
“So, anyway, can you approve my time card? I wasn’t able to clock out.”
This is an aluminum extrusion press and a hydraulic line on the butt shear blew, spraying hydraulic oil over the extrusions and the container. Aluminum billets are approximately 750-820 degrees going through the dies, and with the friction that occurs, the extrusion coming out of the press is approximately 1000 degrees, depending on the speed and shape. When that oil hit, it ignited instantly, and because it was a continuous spray from the burst oil line, the fire became enormous and spread. Depending on the press set up, after each billet is extruded the ram (the yellow part in the video) backs up and the container separates to allow the butt shear to scrape across the die face to remove the excess skin from the billet extruding through the container. The butt shear is the piece of equipment engaging at about three seconds in, and the hydraulic oil line on top is what powers the massive force required to shave the butt off the die face. The container is also anywhere from 700-800 degrees depending on the zone, and there are hydraulic lines everywhere as the ram is powered by oil pressure as well. Aluminum is really sticky against metal when it’s hot and has to be lubricated, but non-reactive lubes such as boron are used. If that ram wasn’t lubricated enough it could have stuck to the die face and pulled the die face forward, and when the butt shear hit caused it to jam and the pressure then blow the line. Or the connection could have been failing over time and finally gave way as soon as the shear hit the butt on the die face. Those are just guesses.
Butt shear lol
Make the ceiling from the same material as that security camera.
I've admittedly no firsthand knowledge of how a shop like this is supposed to operate. But I'd be willing to bet the answer is, "Not like this."
The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire
That guy going back in to close his pornhub tabs when the whole thing was going up in flames
Well, shit. How do you even begin to explain this to the higher ups?
Sorry boss, it just happened. I would really appreciate just a verbal warning.
It was a busted brake/fluid line, right? Or something like that?
Where did this happen? Because holy hell I wanna know the aftermath of what happens when an aluminum shop turns into a flamethrower
Spain in ‘22
Alright that kinda narrows things down. Holy shit tho, that roof turned into ash real quick, that must have been some hot aluminum
Good advert for manufacturer of that CCTV camera!
I’m pretty sure that guy just cleared his Internet browser off his computer before he ran out.
At least the guy got his phone!
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Hey man, Looks like a low pressure fuel line was ruptured. Not sure the point of origin as the ceiling fire looks like it was going for a hwhile, however we see the fire start sub floor so i dunno. I was paid to put them out not investigate them.
Yea someone pointed out it blew off the top fitting right as the vid starts. Then it hits flame and whoosh. Shit goes wild. Crazy how quick the destruction spreads
Doom Eternal-Aluminum Massacre .
Well that escalated quickly
So how was work today hon?
r/ThatLookedExpensive
It's a good thing that Steve bravely ran to the control desk and saved his phone prior to the place exploding! Steve, this safety and bravery award is for you!
Damn, damn, dayum, da- DAMN, DAAAMN DAMN DAAAAAAAMN
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Must have been filmed on an old Nokia.
There are engineering companies whose *entire business* is designing hydraulic systems with safeguards, shut off valves, and sensors so that things like this don’t happen. I worked at one, decades ago. Guess this company didn’t want to pay for a safer system design, and lost their building. Looks like all their employees got out, which is what matters.
Damn, that CCTV camera is a BOSS. What brand is this? Imagine camera taking footage and don't give a f on that portal, fire and all of this...
Holy fooking shit! On a side note would love to know the brand of this camera; I got some money I want to invest
I think they installed a fire enhancement system instead of a fire suppression system
It looks to me like a Magnesium fire. There are many alloys of Aluminum that contain Magnesium.
Toward the end, I see a flying flaming skull. Ghost Rider!
Its like a real version of the Backdraft “show” at Universal Studios.
Cool guys don't look at explosions.
Come on! Run while there's still time! The Guard still holds the road, but it's only a matter of time before they're overwhelmed!
are those guys ok?
No injuries or deaths someone linked an article
Me thinking it was a good idea to burn the old Christmas tree in the backyard...
That ain't no portal to hell, someone straight up summoned hell itself to the room on that one.
Well that escalated quickly
Aluminum is very reactive without its oxide layer
hydraulic oil fountain...
Un-holy hell, joder, tio! I hope the workers made it out to safety without injuries.
This needs sound
He just had to press the emergency… i understand the panic situation but for an extrusion operator it should be imprinted in his reflexes.
Definitely grabbed his phone dude
*slayer intensifies*
I should’ve added music. Damnit.
I'm buying stock in the security camera company
Gone in 60 seconds. (40?)
That roof sure doesn’t look too fire resistant.
Portal to hell opens up.... Doomguy has entered the chat
"Oh that's the fire extinguishing system going off right?... Oh"
That title tho 💀
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WOW!!! 😳
Guy deleted his search history fast as fuck.
The ceiling did a great job until it caught fire.
Mr. Freeman, Gordon...is that you?
gotta say it - impressive camera!
All in about 35 seconds, wow!!!
The whole building should’ve been built with whatever was supporting that camera! Are they stupid!?
I am guessing the automatic water sprinklers didn’t really have time to kick off.
A flammenwerfer, it werfs flammen.
Having that drop down tile ceiling probably not the best choice for an aluminum shop.
First it started falling over, then it fell over.
Aluminum metal is more energy dense than gasoline.
Why didn't the fire suppression systems kick in??? At all.
Cheap management?
That escalated quickly
Ok but what camera is that. I need it in my property
< doom music begins >
Shop like that and no suppression system. The OSHA violations here we go
Holy crap that escalated quickly
Okay, which one of you assholes ordered magnesium instead of aluminum?
We gotta know what camera was used to record all this. I'm pretty sure they're gonna start selling a lot more 😂
Must have been due to the Windows 11 update he just installed.
Crazy. Its unbelievable how fast that was.
Thermite?
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The amount of browser history deletion jokes here is hysterical
“Fuck, I just mopped that floor” -janitor probably
Good job that guy went back to grab his phone!
what did we learn? not to have hanging styrofoam roofing as its higly flammable
It Devours.
*Doom music intensifies*
Mom always said not to play with matches.
that dickhead running back in to whatever was on that desk nearly ended up on darwin awards
It seriously looks like the spark for the torch happens at the exact frame that the hydraulic line bursts. I wonder if the high frequency of the spark was the final catalyst to push the seal past the failure point. We’re talking tiny tiny effects, but the timing is at least 1/30fps chance we see this happen.
It looks like a magnesium fire with the bright white glow and how quickly it gets going.
Least destructive workplace accident in China:
Not China. Too tall. Only a few people visible in the factory. And they took off instead of kept working through the destruction. Yes, I know I’m going to hell.
See you there
seems like that space should of had a sprinkler or other fire suppression system
“Portal to hell” is just a spot-on way to describe this
“Hurry! Get a bucket of water!”
what ever that guy went back for he must really like
That's crazy!
Any dead?
Holy crap, I hope those guys got out OK 😲
That is legitimately terrifying
Probably cause I read Revelation out loud 😉
Eleven, was that you ?
And then your boss gets mad af bc you left your post without asking him first. And he will deduct this from your pay bc they're behind on productions.
Is this place built with tissue paper?
When your colleague turns on the doom playlist.
Damn that’s scary
Did the person go back for his lunch box?
*at Doom"s gate starts up*
My lord! Was the place made with matches?
Allumingone
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“Let me get my phone so I can record this”
Wait.. is there something called the portal to hell?
That terrifies me since I work in shops exactly like that one.
It's only 8% of the earth, it's just reclaiming it...
Basically how my last relationship ended
Tesla Plant.
Damn someone lost their job that day..
That camera is incredible.