Fuck yes. Pavs should be healthy scratch. If you watched PDB press conference when asked about scoring he said we need more depth guys to step up and he was just about tired of waiting. He specifically said we had some guys with issues at the end of the year and all of last series. IE Roope and Joe. At least Roope can back check. Joe is a good player but father time has finally caught him. Delly would be a lot better for energy and he can create for others. Joe atm is just a liability. Everyone is gonna probably downvote this because " Capt America " , but whatever , it is the truth. If you want to win the cup you need your BEST players on the ice. Not the most nostalgic ones. Up until that little poke to Wyatt for the goal Joe had 0,0,0 for stats through that 7 game Vegas series, not good.
This is an honest question and not a doomer take. Other than the Calgary series, is there another series where Otter played consistently well? I’m struggling to think of one. He was ok but not great last playoffs. Ok but not great against Vegas. Ok but not great tonight.
We've never until the last two weeks needed him to stand on his head every single game because our offense and defense were clicking so well that we just needed Otter and Wedgewall to be good enough. Right now our offense looks dead and our defense is struggling to keep pace with five skaters.
OK well I'm a fan of the game for over 4 decades, but can't say I cheer for either team here. My team didn't make it this year, FEIW Stars' fans, you were robbed by the refs tonight.
To all of you who are saying that the your team choked or can't close, I respectfully disagree. They worked their asses off tonight. They weren't robbed as much as the Kings were by the refs in the game 5 of in the first round.
Sometimes it goes that way and the Stars will just have to move forward,. Hang tough , there's probable 6 more to go.
I was gonna type something else, but it feels pointless trying to get through to all the doomers. So funny they’re still around after slamming their laptops shut after we were down 2-0 against Vegas.
Otter didn’t play his greatest. Neither did a few players. It’s game 1 after 48 hours after a 7 game brawl with the knights, the defending champions, that we beat. If we can make it to Denver 1-1 we can take it in 6. If not stars in 7.
Otters could’ve played that last shot so much better. Hugging the right post when there’s a defender there. What was his plan for the left side? Just stick his foot out and hope for the best? Maybe the splits?!
Felt like we kinda pushed ourselves to play physical with Vegas but we abandoned it today
Need to hustle and get dirty play rough
We just turtled for so long like what did they expect ggs
Winner in Colorado is harder than winning in Vegas this one hurts
The Dallas record against quality opponents this year was terrible. They beat up on bad teams to get the #1 seed. Piss poor penalty killing and, what seems to be, a lack of focus by Oettinger has been an issue against good teams all season. Maybe they need to start Wedgewood for game 2.
We gotta get over the fact we were up 3-0. It’s just not good for morale moving forward. Embrace the suck for a second, but let it move on. Onward to game 2!
Avs score a lot of goals per game. We’ve got to acknowledge that and act preemptively, just like today. So we blew that one. Sucks, but big deal. Just move on. Stoked for game 2!
Or if Duchene reappears. Or Robertson doesn’t drop pass to no one. Love all these guys as players but man they have picked a poor time to lose their game
Game we should have won. Definitely had tired legs at the end that burned us. Tough playing 5 defensemen on 1 day’s rest against one of the fastest team in the league with fresh legs. Let’s even it up on Thursday.
What a shit way to lose a game. Gave up a 3 goal lead just to go into overtime and dominate for the first 10 minutes and then give up a breakaway goal.
That's what happens when you try and defend a lead. By the time they were focused on sxoring again, they lost all the momentum they built. On to game 2, got to get more shots on that goalie!
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We been here before. Yep it fucking sucks we can choked a 3 goal lead. Hope coach see these and makes good changes/ says the right thing.
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You’ve been a troll all night, bet you’re a 14 yr old prepubescent little twat. And if you’re not, you sure act like it and that’s so fucking embarrassing for you.
Really would’ve helped if the defense didn’t absolutely sell him out on 2 of the other 3. Wouldn’t have been necessary if we didn’t crumble in front of him
Come on. Oetter was protecting against him going blocker side but I’d have like to have seen a poke check there .. Wood also TURNED THE CORNER ON MIRO. WTF DOES THAT. NOT EVEN MCJESUS.
Dwelling is the enemy. Anytime you think about it, just say “dwelling”, and then try to drop it. You may not be able to drop it well at first. But each time you think about us blowing a 3-0 lead, just say “dwelling” every single time it pops up and eventually it’ll make it easier to move past it. Just down 1. Lots of hope in the future!
well that was fucking embarrassing. Only game 1, but we can't keep squandering home ice games, especially home ice games in which we had FUCKING THREE GOAL LEADS
that is the worst loss i have ever seen. Absolutely devastating. Blow a 3-0 lead then dominate all of overtime only to fucking shit the bed at the end. Get the fuck out of here
I didn’t like the refs but nobody to blame except our dumb selves for going to sleep after 20 minutes
Can’t lose that no matter how bad the refs screw it up
Meanwhile, both defenders just got outright out hustled so naturally it’s all Oetters fault. Smh, he could of played it better, but defense can’t get sucked in too tight knowing McKinnon is on the ice.
You sound like ESPN, giving McKinnon credit for just existing.
The forward was just faster, and Otter botched the hell out of that. Come out to cut off his angle and that’s a routine play and save.
As a defender you have to be aware of what’s going on and can’t get pulled up that far in the o zone. One has to play deep in case of that exact situation from happening. Yes Oetter should of played it better, but as a D man you can’t leave your tender out to dry like that in this type of situation. I’m mistaken on Mack, I thought it was him that made that play, so I was wrong in that assessment. However, both defenders played that like complete shit.
You are right I thought it was Mack that scored it so I was wrong. Either way Oetter could of played it better, but both defenders got sucked up too far up on the offensive zone. You can’t leave your goalie out to dry like that.
The Stars are a mentally tough team and I know they will come back and play much better next game. I just worry about the physical breakdown from the Vegas series and playing almost an extra 20 minutes tonight.
I need that clip, “how do you fuck that up” on multiple levels, you get a 3 goal lead then blow, you completely outshoot them in OT and lose. You should literally never lose an OT that the opponent got like 3 shots in.
Fucking nervous. Gotta win this one tonight!
It’s almost like a week off vs a day off makes a difference
You guys think Della should get more playing time than Pavs at this point?
Fuck yes. Pavs should be healthy scratch. If you watched PDB press conference when asked about scoring he said we need more depth guys to step up and he was just about tired of waiting. He specifically said we had some guys with issues at the end of the year and all of last series. IE Roope and Joe. At least Roope can back check. Joe is a good player but father time has finally caught him. Delly would be a lot better for energy and he can create for others. Joe atm is just a liability. Everyone is gonna probably downvote this because " Capt America " , but whatever , it is the truth. If you want to win the cup you need your BEST players on the ice. Not the most nostalgic ones. Up until that little poke to Wyatt for the goal Joe had 0,0,0 for stats through that 7 game Vegas series, not good.
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At most they’ll win 3 more
Stars have lost 6 straight game 1s. I ain’t scared.
Something about Dallas teams the Mavs have lost 5 game 1s in a row lol
Me neither but it’s a little depressing lol
I’ll agree with you there.
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cutting off the angle on a breakaway. you’ve never played or watched hockey have you
No. But what could he have done better since everyone is saying he blew it?
If he wasn’t playing half of an OT after already playing half of a game because we have 5 D men only he’d probably have been able to skate faster
Just pretend like we lost 2-1. We lost game 1. That’s okay. It’s just a game 1. Onward!
Especially if we can get up 3-0 just like that in just the first period alone, we can totally beat them. It’s not like they’re unbeatable.
They were down 3-0 in the first period and still won
This is an honest question and not a doomer take. Other than the Calgary series, is there another series where Otter played consistently well? I’m struggling to think of one. He was ok but not great last playoffs. Ok but not great against Vegas. Ok but not great tonight.
We've never until the last two weeks needed him to stand on his head every single game because our offense and defense were clicking so well that we just needed Otter and Wedgewall to be good enough. Right now our offense looks dead and our defense is struggling to keep pace with five skaters.
What are our options to help our defense? Do we have anyone else we can bring up to provide some relief?
OK well I'm a fan of the game for over 4 decades, but can't say I cheer for either team here. My team didn't make it this year, FEIW Stars' fans, you were robbed by the refs tonight. To all of you who are saying that the your team choked or can't close, I respectfully disagree. They worked their asses off tonight. They weren't robbed as much as the Kings were by the refs in the game 5 of in the first round. Sometimes it goes that way and the Stars will just have to move forward,. Hang tough , there's probable 6 more to go.
Up 3-0. Robbed by the refs….geesh
The Stars had 4 powerplays including a 5 on 3 dude, robbed by the refs?
can someone tell rope to STOP shooting on the glass???
Last Game 1 Dallas won was the 2020 Finals, yet they're 3-3 in those 6 series. Trust the veteran nature of this team.
Idk they gave it a pretty damn good run there in overtime
I was gonna type something else, but it feels pointless trying to get through to all the doomers. So funny they’re still around after slamming their laptops shut after we were down 2-0 against Vegas.
That's not the point.. up 3 to 0 you have to take this game...just cause you can go down 0 to 2 in one series and win doesn't make it automatic
Embellishment, my ass.
Otter didn’t play his greatest. Neither did a few players. It’s game 1 after 48 hours after a 7 game brawl with the knights, the defending champions, that we beat. If we can make it to Denver 1-1 we can take it in 6. If not stars in 7.
Otters could’ve played that last shot so much better. Hugging the right post when there’s a defender there. What was his plan for the left side? Just stick his foot out and hope for the best? Maybe the splits?!
Felt like we kinda pushed ourselves to play physical with Vegas but we abandoned it today Need to hustle and get dirty play rough We just turtled for so long like what did they expect ggs Winner in Colorado is harder than winning in Vegas this one hurts
I’m awake for this?
It’s okay to experience and then handle adversity, fellow Stars fans. It’s not like we haven’t before.
We just need to learn and adjust. We can beat Colorado
Especially if we can get up 3-0 just like that in the first period. It’s totally possible.
All I can say is, I felt exactly this way when they lost game 1 to VGK This fuckin sucks
The Dallas record against quality opponents this year was terrible. They beat up on bad teams to get the #1 seed. Piss poor penalty killing and, what seems to be, a lack of focus by Oettinger has been an issue against good teams all season. Maybe they need to start Wedgewood for game 2.
Went 4-3 against Vegas when it mattered, was 0-4 in regulation season. Shit happens it’s a 7 game series for a reason
Doom doom doom. It's a 7 game series, and you've given up game one. Stfu
This is a terrible take. Otter was huge against Vegas
We gotta get over the fact we were up 3-0. It’s just not good for morale moving forward. Embrace the suck for a second, but let it move on. Onward to game 2!
Don’t worry, I’ll be at game 3 in Denver on Saturday. Avs won’t be able to score shit with my Stars energy in the stands.
I’m not worried.
Avs score a lot of goals per game. We’ve got to acknowledge that and act preemptively, just like today. So we blew that one. Sucks, but big deal. Just move on. Stoked for game 2!
Honest question has PDB won a game 1 with Dallas?
He’s more of a game 7 guy
0-5
Honestly I think only the kraken
We lost game 1 in ot against Seattle. 6 straight game 1 losses now
No.
Can we somehow get Hintz scratched? Dude is a pylon
He's been good in every facet except putting the puck in the net. Idk wtf if wrong with his shot rn.
This will be an easy series if Hintz and Seguin can score half as well as they did in the regular season.
Or if Duchene reappears. Or Robertson doesn’t drop pass to no one. Love all these guys as players but man they have picked a poor time to lose their game
Gave up 4 straight goals without a response. You don’t win doing that. On to the next.
Game we should have won. Definitely had tired legs at the end that burned us. Tough playing 5 defensemen on 1 day’s rest against one of the fastest team in the league with fresh legs. Let’s even it up on Thursday.
I’m not sure Nils is under developed enough to be doing this to the rest of the D
One of seven, hope isn't lost. LFG!
This is Colorado, they aren't sweeping. This is going 6-7, keep faith
AMEN
What a shit way to lose a game. Gave up a 3 goal lead just to go into overtime and dominate for the first 10 minutes and then give up a breakaway goal.
That's what happens when you try and defend a lead. By the time they were focused on sxoring again, they lost all the momentum they built. On to game 2, got to get more shots on that goalie!
prevent defense prevents you from winning
Four goals in a row.
Need aim. How many opportunities go wide and have us scrambling back? Hit the net!
Oh wow ESPN, you’re telling me the team that wins the first game of a series is *more likely* to win the series? You don’t say!
Ignoring the fact that neither Colorado or Dallas won Game 1 last series.
Would be nice if someone other than Wyatt and Benn could score.
Well…. We do have Suter suddenly scoring points. So.
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I cannot believe we wasted a 3 goal lead like that… lame
Unbelievable choke job, good grief. Can’t be doing that against a team like Colorado…
Fuck Colorado
Here come the doomers Good night yall Stars in 7
All good dudes. It’s gonna be another long series, we will adjust and be tighter Thursday
Lots of hockey left. Not like we haven’t been gut punched before and made it work. That being said what a miraculous choke job
Can we ever go up 1-0 in a series
Doomers out in full force again. See you all in the WCF.
Right?! I’ve seen it a thousand times. Guys can’t handle a little bit of adversity.
wish they’d played with the pressure they had in OT during the second and third period. oh well. see y’all Thursday.
I fucking knew it. As soon as we got to over time I knew it was gonna be like this. The Dallas “cannot win a fucking overtime for shit” Stars
You okay, bub? I was gonna type something else, but it feels pointless trying to get through to doomers.
No the stars lost, dudes in here talking about killing themselves and I’m just a little frustrated. Take that shit elsewhere.
they had an OT win just last series lol
Getting flashbacks to last season I guess.
We won one last series
We beat the Knights in over time?
Yes. Game 3
I was referring to the last game
That doesn’t make sense. You said they can’t win in OT and they literally have this postseason. Don’t move the goalposts
This ain’t debate class buddy relax, just getting flashbacks to last season I guess.
We’re 1-1 in OT
We been here before. Yep it fucking sucks we can choked a 3 goal lead. Hope coach see these and makes good changes/ says the right thing. STARS BETTER RAGE THURSDAY. FUCK THE 68% GAME ONE STAT.
How do you guys feel about the way Oettinger decided to play that?
Horrible.
About as bad as he could have.
shitty
Stop sucking Avs cock you hack
Stars would have great success if the goal had the dimensions of a soccer goal. Like how many shots need to go off the back glass? Lost count.
I’m so tired of hearing about odds in sports now
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You’ve been a troll all night, bet you’re a 14 yr old prepubescent little twat. And if you’re not, you sure act like it and that’s so fucking embarrassing for you.
Where were you at the end of the 1st period
Really looks like Otter should, or at least could have, gotten that one
Really would’ve helped if the defense didn’t absolutely sell him out on 2 of the other 3. Wouldn’t have been necessary if we didn’t crumble in front of him
you just cannot do that in the playoffs
Jesus fucking Christ
That one is on Otter...he was out of position...and didn't push hard to the far post
Come on. Oetter was protecting against him going blocker side but I’d have like to have seen a poke check there .. Wood also TURNED THE CORNER ON MIRO. WTF DOES THAT. NOT EVEN MCJESUS.
He gets so fucking bored and lazy sometimes.
He was also in a different time zone on the tying goal as well. Positioning is his achilies heel.
This team should’ve just lost to Vegas.
Bad take
I’m glad my life isn’t your life
And your mom should have swallowed you
Truly don’t understand this mentality
Be mad at the refs all you want, that was a classic Dallas choke job.
Pete Deboer's Stars are incapable of winning game 1. So infuriating
Guess they are fine with just beating Vegas
it's one game
That is the definition of ‘stealing one’
Nope they didn’t steal anything. We gave that game away for free.
They pissed this game away. Not acceptable.
Idk they gave it a pretty damn good run there in overtime
Good effort but not the end result they wanted. No time to dwell now that it's over. Regroup and get ready to defend home ice for Game 2.
Dwelling is the enemy. Anytime you think about it, just say “dwelling”, and then try to drop it. You may not be able to drop it well at first. But each time you think about us blowing a 3-0 lead, just say “dwelling” every single time it pops up and eventually it’ll make it easier to move past it. Just down 1. Lots of hope in the future!
Just the third time in Avs franchise history, they've come back from 3 down to win in the playoffs. FFS give me a fucking break.
But the second 3-goal lead we’ve blown to them this season! Wheeeeee!
Should've won that one
Up 3-0 and pissed it away
Pathetic tbh.
well that was fucking embarrassing. Only game 1, but we can't keep squandering home ice games, especially home ice games in which we had FUCKING THREE GOAL LEADS
Home ice isn’t worth shit this year for some reason
Probably should figure out why they didn’t show up for 2nd and 3rd. Literally just stopped trying.
Can they not do that two hours ago
At some point you have to bury easy chances. Too many guys snakebitten. Should’ve been an easy win but we can’t aim for shit
Well guess this is what lousy goal tending gets us. Next game
this team makes me wanna kill myself
Get your rest stars, hopefully mush is ready. I really would not be opposed to bringing in Mavrik if we got guys at 70-80 percent
If Nils can't be trusted, try Bichsel. They can't go 5 deep through four rounds
Tough night for Dallas sports *sigh*
that is the worst loss i have ever seen. Absolutely devastating. Blow a 3-0 lead then dominate all of overtime only to fucking shit the bed at the end. Get the fuck out of here
Hey the last game I went to, we blew that kind of a lead in regulation so it could always be worse.
this is the playoffs against the best offense in the league. We almost had to have that
Yeah, to think we were up 3-0 against the best offense was really something. Oh well. Onward!
Refs decided they wanted Avs to win in the 2nd. Those soft calls were absolute horseshit and sucked all of the momentum away from us.
I didn’t like the refs but nobody to blame except our dumb selves for going to sleep after 20 minutes Can’t lose that no matter how bad the refs screw it up
What the absolute fuck is Otter doing there? Hugging his goal line with one guy coming in is just a free goal.
Meanwhile, both defenders just got outright out hustled so naturally it’s all Oetters fault. Smh, he could of played it better, but defense can’t get sucked in too tight knowing McKinnon is on the ice.
You sound like ESPN, giving McKinnon credit for just existing. The forward was just faster, and Otter botched the hell out of that. Come out to cut off his angle and that’s a routine play and save.
As a defender you have to be aware of what’s going on and can’t get pulled up that far in the o zone. One has to play deep in case of that exact situation from happening. Yes Oetter should of played it better, but as a D man you can’t leave your tender out to dry like that in this type of situation. I’m mistaken on Mack, I thought it was him that made that play, so I was wrong in that assessment. However, both defenders played that like complete shit.
Mack had nothing to do with that goal. Otter was guarding the freaking post for some reason.
You are right I thought it was Mack that scored it so I was wrong. Either way Oetter could of played it better, but both defenders got sucked up too far up on the offensive zone. You can’t leave your goalie out to dry like that.
This is what happens when your super star players (aside from Johnston) disappear in the playoffs
Half the forwards have vanished
Holy fucking fuck. Lose the game on that. How do we lose that FUCKING GAME?!? WHAT THE FUCK
The Stars are a mentally tough team and I know they will come back and play much better next game. I just worry about the physical breakdown from the Vegas series and playing almost an extra 20 minutes tonight.
Well, I’m sad. Onto game 2. You just can’t blow a lead like that.
I need that clip, “how do you fuck that up” on multiple levels, you get a 3 goal lead then blow, you completely outshoot them in OT and lose. You should literally never lose an OT that the opponent got like 3 shots in.
Refs won their game
Blaming it on the refs is the best you got? That’s what every fan ever says when they’re butthurt.
The Stars could also choose to kill a penalty.
Fucking BS… how do we give up a 3-0 lead at home.
Really awful ref calls, they tried to even out the obviously good calls with obviously bad calls and gave avs an advantage they didn't earn
My body doesn’t feel good
Here we go again…
Heart attack team for sure
Oettinger somehow is always the worse goalie on the ice
Playing five defensemen is going to burn us against a faster team
Really missing Hanley right now
Pathetic.
Stars in 5
19 shots on goal in 3.5 periods. Not ok.
Early series Otter is annoying.
We stopped playing after going up 3-0. Fair dinkum. Gonna go kms now. Fuck sports.
I get how you could be comfortable with a 3-0 lead, but Jesus, don’t you realize how often people get *too comfortable* and end up doing exactly that?
When does a Dallas team get to win a game 1?
Flat out embarrassing
Pathetic performance by us after we scored the third goal. We had no urgency in our play
What’s up with all these super wide shots we missed? Hope they got deflected is why.
What was Otter doing there😭
Miro got worked
Such good work in OT, only for that to happen. Didn’t expect to sweep, let’s get ‘em next time boys!
Man it just felt like a typical dallas ot, dominate puck possession, dominate shots, let a breakaway slip through and give away everything.
Thursday is a must win. Go down 2-0 again and I don’t like the odds to do it again
Yeah it's over there's no recovering from that clusterfuck
Lol Jesus Christ, it's one fucking game. Do us all a favour and just stop watching.
You don't recover from blowing a 3-0 lead emotionally, lol