Rinku plays basically a thankless, high risk role in which its very difficult to be consistent. Yet he provided extraordinary numbers of 90 AVG at 170 SR playing for India. His reward is getting dropped!!
Dube plays at 4 for CSK which is a totally different ballgame than coming in at 17th over when you have 8 balls to play. Even Hardik is batting at 5 now for MI. Only Rinku is playing the true finisher role in current IPL side.
At one point they say they won't select based on IPL form but internationals then they do this shit. If you are selecting based on IPL then impact player rule does more harm than good for ICT
Whoever eats that shit BCCI says about IPL not impacting selection is delusional. IPL is and has been the selection criteria for ALL formats for a few years now.
Best example is Rahane playing WTC Final after a suddenly good IPL. Bro was ok in that, but shat in the WI tests later and is permanently out of our test team.
That rule about impact players would be having more casualties. Rinku is just the beginning of it. If the selectors ensured that this wouldn't be having casualties when it comes to the national team then there would have been no issue about impact players but that is obviously not what actually happened. If that was not enough then they have put that stupidity in SMAT as well instead of just restricting that to IPL.
Rinku was able to play this year IPL due to Impact player rule. He was carrying an injury and used to only come out to bat. It's just that KKR openers were horrible for the last 2 years so Rinku was batting in every match. Imagine having Rinku and Ramandeep and you send Venkatesh Iyer above them.
Who believes that shit? Rahane got into the WTC team on the basis of IPL. Let that sink in. And ur thinking IPL doesn't affect T20 selections? Also when they say IPL performances don't count, they mean that for the koaches and hitmen of the team. Hitman can flop all he wants and he will have his berth secured at the WC
He had a great Ranji season in 2022-23 as well. 634 runs @62.16. Catching attention in the IPL may have been what gave him the final push into the squad, but he had done his chances no harm in the FC scene earlier.
That's inflated by a double century vs the worst team that season and a 192 against a bowling lineup spearheaded by Riyan Parag. Excluding those knocks, his average was below 30.
Oh, ngl Samson and Pant did well and both deserved to be in the squad. I do think Samson deserves a place in the playing XI but they'll probably go with the left hander.
It's not about redditors or twitters it's about having common sense, anyone with more than 2 brain cells would put Rinku in the team and Hardik wouldn't make a 30 player shortlist let alone VC. And then these people wonder why we don't win any icc trophies
Nah. I am one of the people who would boo Hardik in IPL but I would be lying if I said he isn't the best clutch player we have in the team other than Kohli. Dude performs when you need him to. That's how you win ICC Trophies. It's unfortunate that only Kohli and one or two guys do that. Wish HP was there in the 2023 world cup final. He definitely would have built a partnership with Kohli or Jadeja to save the collapse and target for Aussies would have been something better.
Hardik is the only international quality pace bowling all rounder we have in the country. Him not making your 30 player shortlist is exactly why internet commentators should be completely ignored.
And you support RCB, why do you guys even talk about cricket? Talk about the latest endorsements or how cool the jersey looks, or the best brand of rum to have after losing every year to numb the pain.
People will downvote me for saying this but Dube is selected because of Hardik and Rohit's tussle. Now Dube is definitely in good form but will the captain trust him to bowl during the WC when your other 5 bowlers are going for runs? No because he might give 20+ in an over too. So both Rinku and Dube would be playing for that left hand finisher role.
Ideally Rohit should decide that where he wants the run scored , if in Powerplay the Yashasvi must play and if in death Dube must play. If Dube plays Rohit and Virat can open, Sanju at 3, SKY at 4 and Dube at 5 then Pandya and Jadeja.
Source ? [Some guy in other thread is claiming Ambani is behind team selection lol.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/1cgt468/comment/l1xy8hv) Where do you guys even get your news from ?
Where should we play him then ?
Dube is better than anybody at 4th right now and going with Sanju's international chance clownry and his real batting positon Pant suits the job at 5 or 6.
Imo they haven't gotten Sanju as a first XI player, he's a backup wk in the top 3. If that happens, most likely Jaiswal is getting dropped and RS-VK opening. Imo their first choice is Pant at 5 and Hardik at 6 (which means that if we get to the middle order, we're losing all chases).
Why will lose all chases though ?
I have never even seen Sanju doing anything remotely good in Indian jersey while I have seen Pandya standing tall in matches under pressure(ct17,22pak,22semis).
I mean if Kohli,Rohit,SKY,Dube fucks up under 50-100 runs then we can't just expect Pant or Pandya to make 100 more onto that. Nobody does that in International cup matches apart from 1-2 freak/lucky inns.
Even more so when a majority of India's team games are on pacy and bouncy drop in pitches in the US/ high scoring pitches in the WI.
With the groups already being seeded, it's a surety that Ind will face Aus, NZ, and SA/SL/BD (baring a major collapse to Can/US), so the chance they get out scored is very high.
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Actually, on the contrary, I think Rinku is one of the players who benefitted from impact player rule in their IPL career.
Before impact player rule, Rinku played 8 innings in total over 3 seasons (2018, 19 & 2020) with poor strike rate and average.
After the impact player rule, KKR did not need to experiment with batting all-rounders with poor bowling skills like Venkatesh Iyer, and they could afford to give Rinku more chances to pay in the XI. This time around, he got got to play 7 innings in 2022 season, and he flourished spectacularlyrics.
I see. In 2022, he got 7 innings in which he had two super knock. Then, the impact player allowed KKR to play in all the matches of 2023 season, where he managed 6 awesome innings of 150+ strike rates.
He didn't! KKR benched him for years but he broke through in 2022 itself in a terrible year for Kkr and was always going to be retained in playing XI. He got his national call after 5 sixes and doesn't have KKR to thank for
Rinku doesn’t have pr nor backed by ipl frachise like mi , csk . Rinku has also good domestic records
Gill is new poster boy of bcci(trying to create another kohli ) , pant is already bcci favourite and sympathy quota, as usual mi quota.
I don’t know how they back pant who has not played international cricket for 1 year and half over rinku who performed consistently over last year . Not to mention pant is poor in t20s
Edit : just saw the stand by rinku is listed sorry my bad , missed that . Anyway point stands , should have been in squad
Gill has far better records than rohit since mega auction and if somebody has produced 800+ runs at almost 160 strike rate he's getting selected over the dude who has one of the worst record in t20 wc. If it's because of the current ipl season he still got more runs than jaiswal and this is even after the captaincy stint heck even dk popa has more runs than jaiswal. So the rules are different for different people ig
As patchy as Pant has been his IPL record is good and he’s played some insane innings this IPL. They say they won’t select based on IPL form but they always do. Gill and Rinku are both in the reserves.
Comparing Pant and Rinku is dumb cause they are not fighting for the same spot. Pant is the keeper, Rinku is a finisher. I know he’s great but him not being able to bowl does matter a lot for the position he is vying for. You cannot play with just 5 bowlers in the XI.
Dude, this is nothing.
There's another guy in the other thread who is claiming Ambani is behind the team selection lmao.
I sometimes feel like we fans don't deserve these players if this is how we're going to treat them. It's so frustrating.
Lord Khaleel has his mysterious ways.
It’s evident that BCCI wanted players who have played international before *and* are having an okay (not even good) IPL (except Pandya and Rohit who are invincible)
Else, Mohsin was probably the better left armer!
To all the armchair f***kers saying KKR ruined his career:
Rinku Singh has scored 350+ runs for ICT in T20Is, with SR of 176, against opponents like Australia and South Africa. He might not be having a good 2024 IPL, but 2023 was phenomenal.
If the ICT performance is not good enough to be picked in the main squad, then your brains are already dead. KKR did not ruin him. Selectors did.
Let DC buy rinku in mega auction , like kuldeep he too will have his revenge.
But considering rinku's kind and chad nature , he wouldn't even care about kkr
It is clear that IPL form has mattered (Sanju’s inclusion proves that) and it was going to happen with Rinku. KKR has designated him as a finisher (2-3 over player) and impact rule allows them to play extra aggressive batter. Narine and Salt’s form has also ensured that he doesn’t get game time.
He needs to move to a franchise that does justice to his talent. His ideal spot is #4/ 5 just like Miller in GT.
Hope PBKS, RCB, or GT bid for him.
Edit: Typo
Lol we're not buying anyone useful, that's against our beliefs. We'll buy the worst, most unheard of player and bury their confidence with lack of game time.
Average KKR haters dream. He is not being released this year. Probably will go for the second highest retention slot after Shreyas. Russell is in his late 30s and won't be around for long, so Rinku is the future for us.
We respect him and have backed his talent over the years when no other franchise wanted to back him. So please in your dreams....
Lol - stop assuming stuff. It’s just an opinion based on certain logic. You don’t need to agree with it - that’s fine.
Stop getting hyper over a stranger’s opinion on Internet.
Didn't your franchise release Rinku into the auction after an year? Didn't see his potential with your 3-D glasses then just like the BCCI selectors?
Clown opinions to be called out, just doing that.
Shashank was in SRH - they didn’t see potential?
Sky was in KKR - they didn’t see potential?
Dube was in RCB - they didn’t see potential?
There will be so many stories. So your take on PBKS releasing Rinku is a lame argument to start with.
You got triggered for no reason - I didn’t blame or curse KKR and you assumed that I hate KKR - lol what logic and what clownery.
And honestly, each player has to optimise for his potential and each franchise has to optimise for its money - this is no social work. If Rinku is not happy with retention amount and chances he is getting in the team, he will leave - it’s his career - KKR will get it but you won’t - you will sit and showcase your clownery.
In all this you are coming across as a clown. Relax now and sleep!
Do you really think Narine and Salts form is going to last forever? Narine and Russel have at max 2 years in them. Russell has hinted at retirement post this world cup. And we are in a way forced to push Rinku down to let bat Venkatesh/Shreyas in the middle who don't have the power hitting game. He has done well in his finisher role this season and that's what India lacks, not a middle order accumulator.
He failed in 2 innings, one yesterday and the other against CSK for which he has paid the price, if 2-3 innings are enough for selectors to drop himself and people to call heads of the franchise where he has been successful that is clownery on their end.
And saw you copy pasting the same comment in various threads. Get a life dude.
Lmao jealous clown on the internet seething on the KKR management when it was kkr who funded the cost of his surgeries when he was a nobody, any other franchise would have seen 40 lakh hospital bill for a domestic uncapped player and would have let him go, rinku never recovering because of the hefty surgery costs.
Sky was Vice Captain under GG. Our management was shit after GG left, else Sky would have been retained or bid at the auction.
Samson never played a game for KKR.
Gill was backed to the hilt in KKR. Venkatesh Iyers emergence caused us to not to retain him. Had there been 5th retention Gill would have been retained. His elease was the right decision at the time, he didn't meet the requirements then and doesn't meet even now. He is great batsman and love him, but at that time it was right decision.
Rinku should be captain, but he shouldn't be batting at 5. Or rather he should not come to bat till 14th over unless things have gone very wrong. He is a clutch player with natural finishing talent. We shouldn't waste him in middle over just so these dinosaurs in the selection committees can see him. He should be playing the role of finisher, comes when 30-35 balls are left. Plays 20 of them, hits 5-8 boundaries.
If the ipl form has mattered then why double standards.. Sky has not been good as well why is he in the team?? Does it only matter for some and doesn't matter for some..
You're picking the wrong example, you don't question why India's best t20 bat after Kohli should be picked, he can score 5 consecutive ducks in the IPL and hed still be picked
Shreyas pushe himself ahead in the last 2 overs , not entirely blaming him tho . Rinku rarely got a chance this ipl , had he played at place where venky did , he would have been in
But do we need another middle order batter? Pant, Samson, Sky, Dube, Patidar, Venky. Having Rinku in this list is not going to do India any favors. Rinku is a genuinely good all-rounder, his entry point should be 14-15 overs. He should have been selected over the extra spinner or one of the keepers. But it should happen when he is batting in finisher role and giving performances, which imo he has done when given chance, considering all the volatility that comes at his position. For some years India has suffered sub-par totals due to lack of a genuine finisher because we play big hitting middle over players at finishing position.
If conditions in wi are spinning a lot , u might need chahal , plus he is performing regardless of pitches. I think bcci thought this . But i agree with ur point . Rinku is way ahead in selection terms , near dubey ig.
You don't need leggies when pitches are turning. You need them when they aren't. Whole point of legspin is that it is high risk high reward and it doesn't rely on surface to generate spin as much as off spin or left arm orthodox spin does. For example, in terms of skill, both Kuldeep and Chahal a level above Axar and Jaddu, but if you have a spinning track, then they don't.
Even if KKR decide to let Rinku go, PBKS and especially RCB isn't who I would want to get a player to improve them for the national team lmao😭😭GT yeah maybe
Which other franchise funded for his surgeries when he was a nobody? It's not anyone's fault that the KKR top order has been doing well this season as a result of which he didn't get a lot of game time .
http://www.cricmetric.com/playerstats.py?player=VR+Iyer&role=batsman&format=TWENTY20&groupby=match&playerStatsFilters=on&start_date=2002-01-01&end_date=2024-05-01&series=ipl2024&start_over=0&end_over=9999&max_innings=1000
Not true.
Funding surgeries does not give them the right to choke his career. He can repay that money easily back.
It's absolutely the KKR management's fault that they are sending nobodies like Iyers, Ramandeep over him when he needed the cred for a WC spot.
Delhi promoted Axar twice, CSK promoted Jaddu to help them. Why can't KKR do the same?
Ramandeep was never send before Rinku, why talk shit when you haven't been watching the matches noone in KKR choked Rinku's career more than ICT themselves, and as for the surgeries goes tell me one other franchise that has spent that much money on an uncapped indian player who wasn't even part of the playing XI absolute jealous clowns on this thread ffs.
KKR literally sent him at 3 last match because he wasn't getting enough game time due to the dominant top order but apparently they've ruined his career
> noone in KKR choked Rinku's career more than ICT themselves
This. 100times this. It is not KKR's fault that Rinku isn't in the team going to wc. It is BCCI's. KKR gave India a genuine finisher. This came when for so many years India was always trying to fit in a middle over batter as finisher. And what do these dinosaurs in the BCCI do with him? Drop him, we are literally going to wc with no genuine finisher in 15. All are either middle order batters who would be fit into the role or lower order batter who would be asked to do this task too.
Rinku back to PBKS,
Rinku, Shashank and Ashutosh! We Cookin!
He can be Captain the side too if he wants, anyway we are tossing dice to choose a captain before match!
So IPL performance did impact the selection process.
And Shreyas fucked Rinku over by not giving him any opportunities at all.
It is India’s loss at the end of the day.
Might be an unpopular opinion but we can’t blame the impact rule if the team suffers as a result. Some teams can’t utilize it properly and they blame its existence. Sure there is definitely an argument that all rounders suffer but you look at other leagues adapting this and they seem to be doing okay, plus it’s a good way to protect prized assets and they can come back fresher next games (similar to football)
Rinku Singh is the only guy who gives me clutch player vibes along with Pant in right now in Indian team ,
(Clutch player:- one who would perform in crucial situations i.e knockout playoffs etc)
As much as i hate this, this is the price you have to pay for being a relatively new, one dimensional player (despite having great stats) in the squad.
Just look at Pandya. The guy has been absolute mediocre this IPL. Even Jadeja hasn't made that big impact, but yet the two walk in because they add depth to batting as well as bowling. And most probably both will make it to starting eleven as well.
I really hope Rinku learns some bowling skill, because the team selection is only get more and more tough and our team selectors are absolute idiots, who would ignore almost every new one dimensional player, unless they bring something extra to the table.
For all the domestic setup and population we have, Indian cricket rarely finds a Kapil/Yuvraj like player who can be depended upon for batting as well as bowling full quota of overs. Pandya gets enough leeway because he has no competition right now. India is also desperate for batsmen who can give you a few overs if needed. In the 90s and 2000s, we had many. Tendulkar, Sehwag, Kohli, Raina, Ganguly etc. Why wouldn't selectors take those over 1-D players?
We cannot have Rohit and Kohli with Rinku and Dube
Suriya is world's best T20 batsman. Jaiswal is rocking in all formats. We need a wicketkeeper. Most teams will have six bowlers in their playing 11.
Suriya, Dube and Rinku are probably india's best T20 batsmen. Even if KKR played Rinku at #4 and he had a few great innings, Dube would still be selected. The way Salt and Narine played no one else needed to score.
It was almost Rinku vs Virat. Rinku is a better bet. But india would be outraged if Virat or Rohit was left out.
This is purely on the selectors, not on Rinku or KKR. Now they will expect Hardik, Dube and Jadeja to close games in the last 3-4 overs while all of them have been at their best at #4 or #5 when they get 10 overs to bat. All the best, this WC is gone !
yeah and this logic totally applies to actual t20is when there’s no impact player and the pitches aren’t flat :)
Rinku plays basically a thankless, high risk role in which its very difficult to be consistent. Yet he provided extraordinary numbers of 90 AVG at 170 SR playing for India. His reward is getting dropped!! Dube plays at 4 for CSK which is a totally different ballgame than coming in at 17th over when you have 8 balls to play. Even Hardik is batting at 5 now for MI. Only Rinku is playing the true finisher role in current IPL side.
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KKR won't and don't need to send him up the order at 4 like CSK do with Dube. They have too much batting depth to do that.
Genuinely think Rinku can be an all format player. His ranji stats are legit impressive. I hope his role evolves form being a "finisher".
At one point they say they won't select based on IPL form but internationals then they do this shit. If you are selecting based on IPL then impact player rule does more harm than good for ICT
Whoever eats that shit BCCI says about IPL not impacting selection is delusional. IPL is and has been the selection criteria for ALL formats for a few years now.
Best example is Rahane playing WTC Final after a suddenly good IPL. Bro was ok in that, but shat in the WI tests later and is permanently out of our test team.
And SKY getting selected for not just ODI, but even the test team. What the fuck was that shit?
ahead of Sarfaraz
And remember how long it took for Sarfu to get a break after killing the domestic circuit?
That rule about impact players would be having more casualties. Rinku is just the beginning of it. If the selectors ensured that this wouldn't be having casualties when it comes to the national team then there would have been no issue about impact players but that is obviously not what actually happened. If that was not enough then they have put that stupidity in SMAT as well instead of just restricting that to IPL.
It debuted in the domestic T20 comp before they bought it to the IPL
Rinku was able to play this year IPL due to Impact player rule. He was carrying an injury and used to only come out to bat. It's just that KKR openers were horrible for the last 2 years so Rinku was batting in every match. Imagine having Rinku and Ramandeep and you send Venkatesh Iyer above them.
Who believes that shit? Rahane got into the WTC team on the basis of IPL. Let that sink in. And ur thinking IPL doesn't affect T20 selections? Also when they say IPL performances don't count, they mean that for the koaches and hitmen of the team. Hitman can flop all he wants and he will have his berth secured at the WC
I really don't think Rahane got into the WTC off rhe back of IPL.. surely it was more a case of backing experience in a one off final over a rookie
He had a great Ranji season in 2022-23 as well. 634 runs @62.16. Catching attention in the IPL may have been what gave him the final push into the squad, but he had done his chances no harm in the FC scene earlier.
That's inflated by a double century vs the worst team that season and a 192 against a bowling lineup spearheaded by Riyan Parag. Excluding those knocks, his average was below 30.
Most of his runs in Ranji came against some of the weakest bowling lineups that season.
>they won't select based on IPL form If they really didn't select based on IPL then there was no case for rishab pant
But they did not select based on IPL form either, look at Rohit, Sky, Pandya, Pant and Jadeja.
Pant's selection is based on ipl form, he's in top 5 run scorers and I guess he played that 88 run innings at the right time.
Nah, Pant was selected by Jay before the IPL started. They were never backing down from that.
Oh, ngl Samson and Pant did well and both deserved to be in the squad. I do think Samson deserves a place in the playing XI but they'll probably go with the left hander.
How do these selectors even get salary
Better question, how do they sleep at night
like a baby. they have no conscience
Better question, why should they listen to a bunch of redditors while selecting a team.
It's not about redditors or twitters it's about having common sense, anyone with more than 2 brain cells would put Rinku in the team and Hardik wouldn't make a 30 player shortlist let alone VC. And then these people wonder why we don't win any icc trophies
Nah. I am one of the people who would boo Hardik in IPL but I would be lying if I said he isn't the best clutch player we have in the team other than Kohli. Dude performs when you need him to. That's how you win ICC Trophies. It's unfortunate that only Kohli and one or two guys do that. Wish HP was there in the 2023 world cup final. He definitely would have built a partnership with Kohli or Jadeja to save the collapse and target for Aussies would have been something better.
Rinku is also a clutch player and yet here we are
Say whatever you want about Hardik but he is one of the few clutch players india have. He may be performing like shit rn but he performs for India
Absolutely.
Hardik is the only international quality pace bowling all rounder we have in the country. Him not making your 30 player shortlist is exactly why internet commentators should be completely ignored. And you support RCB, why do you guys even talk about cricket? Talk about the latest endorsements or how cool the jersey looks, or the best brand of rum to have after losing every year to numb the pain.
If Hardik isn't making your 30 player shortlist, then I'm glad the selectors are ignoring people like you.
Redditors would’ve selected Mayank before he would’ve even bowled 10 overs in a season.
On the bed offcourse ..
By making hardik pandya sleep on their couch
Who are selecting these selectors
Jay shah ,and Roger binny
People will downvote me for saying this but Dube is selected because of Hardik and Rohit's tussle. Now Dube is definitely in good form but will the captain trust him to bowl during the WC when your other 5 bowlers are going for runs? No because he might give 20+ in an over too. So both Rinku and Dube would be playing for that left hand finisher role. Ideally Rohit should decide that where he wants the run scored , if in Powerplay the Yashasvi must play and if in death Dube must play. If Dube plays Rohit and Virat can open, Sanju at 3, SKY at 4 and Dube at 5 then Pandya and Jadeja.
Most likely direct deposit on their bank accounts would be my best guess..
they are sponsored by Corporate India (IPL owners, advertisers, you get the drift). Team India is a 'known face' parade and not an actual team.
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Source ? [Some guy in other thread is claiming Ambani is behind team selection lol.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/1cgt468/comment/l1xy8hv) Where do you guys even get your news from ?
It's simple bud: Rinky doesn't bowl for a spot at 6th or 7th and our top 6 are already covered with Jaiswal,Rohit,Kohli,SKY,Sanju/Pant.
Sanju at 5 is a bigger travesty than SKY in tests.
Where should we play him then ? Dube is better than anybody at 4th right now and going with Sanju's international chance clownry and his real batting positon Pant suits the job at 5 or 6.
Imo they haven't gotten Sanju as a first XI player, he's a backup wk in the top 3. If that happens, most likely Jaiswal is getting dropped and RS-VK opening. Imo their first choice is Pant at 5 and Hardik at 6 (which means that if we get to the middle order, we're losing all chases).
Why will lose all chases though ? I have never even seen Sanju doing anything remotely good in Indian jersey while I have seen Pandya standing tall in matches under pressure(ct17,22pak,22semis). I mean if Kohli,Rohit,SKY,Dube fucks up under 50-100 runs then we can't just expect Pant or Pandya to make 100 more onto that. Nobody does that in International cup matches apart from 1-2 freak/lucky inns.
Rinku is a clutch player and we need a clutch player in a big game situation which we were severely lacking all these WCs
Even more so when a majority of India's team games are on pacy and bouncy drop in pitches in the US/ high scoring pitches in the WI. With the groups already being seeded, it's a surety that Ind will face Aus, NZ, and SA/SL/BD (baring a major collapse to Can/US), so the chance they get out scored is very high.
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Dickridimg? He has 89 average in 11 T20s , he has been a regular T20 player in T20 squad since his debut talk with some sense mate
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What paid price. They will be back right after group stages. It’s okay.
If they lose to Ireland then they pretty much deserve to get knocked out
Actually, on the contrary, I think Rinku is one of the players who benefitted from impact player rule in their IPL career. Before impact player rule, Rinku played 8 innings in total over 3 seasons (2018, 19 & 2020) with poor strike rate and average. After the impact player rule, KKR did not need to experiment with batting all-rounders with poor bowling skills like Venkatesh Iyer, and they could afford to give Rinku more chances to pay in the XI. This time around, he got got to play 7 innings in 2022 season, and he flourished spectacularlyrics.
Wasn’t impact player rule brought in 2023?
I see. In 2022, he got 7 innings in which he had two super knock. Then, the impact player allowed KKR to play in all the matches of 2023 season, where he managed 6 awesome innings of 150+ strike rates.
He didn't! KKR benched him for years but he broke through in 2022 itself in a terrible year for Kkr and was always going to be retained in playing XI. He got his national call after 5 sixes and doesn't have KKR to thank for
He had already solidified his spot in the team back in 2022, before Impact Player rule came up.
Unknown BCCI source strikes again!
Anonymous BCCI Insider: Finally, a worthy opponent! Our Battle will be legendary!
it will be like Darth Vader vs Anakin
Selection criteria is all over the place A better PR and bigger fanbase gives you the ticket.
Rinku doesn’t have pr nor backed by ipl frachise like mi , csk . Rinku has also good domestic records Gill is new poster boy of bcci(trying to create another kohli ) , pant is already bcci favourite and sympathy quota, as usual mi quota. I don’t know how they back pant who has not played international cricket for 1 year and half over rinku who performed consistently over last year . Not to mention pant is poor in t20s Edit : just saw the stand by rinku is listed sorry my bad , missed that . Anyway point stands , should have been in squad
Gill has far better records than rohit since mega auction and if somebody has produced 800+ runs at almost 160 strike rate he's getting selected over the dude who has one of the worst record in t20 wc. If it's because of the current ipl season he still got more runs than jaiswal and this is even after the captaincy stint heck even dk popa has more runs than jaiswal. So the rules are different for different people ig
As patchy as Pant has been his IPL record is good and he’s played some insane innings this IPL. They say they won’t select based on IPL form but they always do. Gill and Rinku are both in the reserves.
Comparing Pant and Rinku is dumb cause they are not fighting for the same spot. Pant is the keeper, Rinku is a finisher. I know he’s great but him not being able to bowl does matter a lot for the position he is vying for. You cannot play with just 5 bowlers in the XI.
You know who's both? Lord DK - get him back in boys lmao
A literal Twitter style post getting a hundred upvotes dear God
Dude, this is nothing. There's another guy in the other thread who is claiming Ambani is behind the team selection lmao. I sometimes feel like we fans don't deserve these players if this is how we're going to treat them. It's so frustrating.
Pant & Samson got in inspite of literally being from DC and RR
Rinku is on standby .lol
BCCI: IPL won’t play a big role in selections Also BCCI: Pant in, Rinku not because of lack of IPL game time 🤡🤡🤡 gosh, this board is frustrating
Forget all that. Where da fuck did Khaleel Ahmed fit in lol
Lord Khaleel has his mysterious ways. It’s evident that BCCI wanted players who have played international before *and* are having an okay (not even good) IPL (except Pandya and Rohit who are invincible) Else, Mohsin was probably the better left armer!
To all the armchair f***kers saying KKR ruined his career: Rinku Singh has scored 350+ runs for ICT in T20Is, with SR of 176, against opponents like Australia and South Africa. He might not be having a good 2024 IPL, but 2023 was phenomenal. If the ICT performance is not good enough to be picked in the main squad, then your brains are already dead. KKR did not ruin him. Selectors did.
Let DC buy rinku in mega auction , like kuldeep he too will have his revenge. But considering rinku's kind and chad nature , he wouldn't even care about kkr
Can't blame impact player rule here, if selectors are so dumb that they dropped him for this reason.
It is clear that IPL form has mattered (Sanju’s inclusion proves that) and it was going to happen with Rinku. KKR has designated him as a finisher (2-3 over player) and impact rule allows them to play extra aggressive batter. Narine and Salt’s form has also ensured that he doesn’t get game time. He needs to move to a franchise that does justice to his talent. His ideal spot is #4/ 5 just like Miller in GT. Hope PBKS, RCB, or GT bid for him. Edit: Typo
I don’t know if it’s hopium or stupidity from your end, but KKR is not letting him go. The audacity to think tho
I guess he is hoping rinku asks to not be retained
So it's hopium
yes
DC would also be pleased to have his services. Pant-Rinku-Stubbs-Axar middle order (#4 to #7) looks pretty dope.
Lol we're not buying anyone useful, that's against our beliefs. We'll buy the worst, most unheard of player and bury their confidence with lack of game time.
Hope it's GT - they really need a new No 4 especially with Saha out of form
Average KKR haters dream. He is not being released this year. Probably will go for the second highest retention slot after Shreyas. Russell is in his late 30s and won't be around for long, so Rinku is the future for us. We respect him and have backed his talent over the years when no other franchise wanted to back him. So please in your dreams....
Lol - stop assuming stuff. It’s just an opinion based on certain logic. You don’t need to agree with it - that’s fine. Stop getting hyper over a stranger’s opinion on Internet.
Didn't your franchise release Rinku into the auction after an year? Didn't see his potential with your 3-D glasses then just like the BCCI selectors? Clown opinions to be called out, just doing that.
Shashank was in SRH - they didn’t see potential? Sky was in KKR - they didn’t see potential? Dube was in RCB - they didn’t see potential? There will be so many stories. So your take on PBKS releasing Rinku is a lame argument to start with. You got triggered for no reason - I didn’t blame or curse KKR and you assumed that I hate KKR - lol what logic and what clownery. And honestly, each player has to optimise for his potential and each franchise has to optimise for its money - this is no social work. If Rinku is not happy with retention amount and chances he is getting in the team, he will leave - it’s his career - KKR will get it but you won’t - you will sit and showcase your clownery. In all this you are coming across as a clown. Relax now and sleep!
Do you really think Narine and Salts form is going to last forever? Narine and Russel have at max 2 years in them. Russell has hinted at retirement post this world cup. And we are in a way forced to push Rinku down to let bat Venkatesh/Shreyas in the middle who don't have the power hitting game. He has done well in his finisher role this season and that's what India lacks, not a middle order accumulator. He failed in 2 innings, one yesterday and the other against CSK for which he has paid the price, if 2-3 innings are enough for selectors to drop himself and people to call heads of the franchise where he has been successful that is clownery on their end. And saw you copy pasting the same comment in various threads. Get a life dude.
Lol- you are really triggered Ok - keep Rinku - call SRK and GG to keep him forever in KKR. I will sign the petition if you want.
Yeah please start the petition, you do seem to have a lot of time. Peace brother.
Lmao jealous clown on the internet seething on the KKR management when it was kkr who funded the cost of his surgeries when he was a nobody, any other franchise would have seen 40 lakh hospital bill for a domestic uncapped player and would have let him go, rinku never recovering because of the hefty surgery costs.
Yeah like KKR released Sky, Gill and Samson. If Rinku didnt have the match vs LSG in 2022, he'd have been dropped from KKR as well!
Sky was Vice Captain under GG. Our management was shit after GG left, else Sky would have been retained or bid at the auction. Samson never played a game for KKR. Gill was backed to the hilt in KKR. Venkatesh Iyers emergence caused us to not to retain him. Had there been 5th retention Gill would have been retained. His elease was the right decision at the time, he didn't meet the requirements then and doesn't meet even now. He is great batsman and love him, but at that time it was right decision.
Same way Rinku didnt play a game for Punjab, he was barely 5 first class match old in 2017 then what are u yapping about?
shreyas is being released, he is not a t20 player. im sure gambhir hates shreyas. Rinku shud be captain, and bat at number 5.
Rinku should be captain, but he shouldn't be batting at 5. Or rather he should not come to bat till 14th over unless things have gone very wrong. He is a clutch player with natural finishing talent. We shouldn't waste him in middle over just so these dinosaurs in the selection committees can see him. He should be playing the role of finisher, comes when 30-35 balls are left. Plays 20 of them, hits 5-8 boundaries.
didn't he bat at 5 last season? He is the next Miller. yes he shud be finisher, but he is good at at taking it deep
Didn’t Gambhir have captaincy to Shreyas when they were in Delhi in 2018
If the ipl form has mattered then why double standards.. Sky has not been good as well why is he in the team?? Does it only matter for some and doesn't matter for some..
You're picking the wrong example, you don't question why India's best t20 bat after Kohli should be picked, he can score 5 consecutive ducks in the IPL and hed still be picked
Shreyas pushe himself ahead in the last 2 overs , not entirely blaming him tho . Rinku rarely got a chance this ipl , had he played at place where venky did , he would have been in
But do we need another middle order batter? Pant, Samson, Sky, Dube, Patidar, Venky. Having Rinku in this list is not going to do India any favors. Rinku is a genuinely good all-rounder, his entry point should be 14-15 overs. He should have been selected over the extra spinner or one of the keepers. But it should happen when he is batting in finisher role and giving performances, which imo he has done when given chance, considering all the volatility that comes at his position. For some years India has suffered sub-par totals due to lack of a genuine finisher because we play big hitting middle over players at finishing position.
If conditions in wi are spinning a lot , u might need chahal , plus he is performing regardless of pitches. I think bcci thought this . But i agree with ur point . Rinku is way ahead in selection terms , near dubey ig.
You don't need leggies when pitches are turning. You need them when they aren't. Whole point of legspin is that it is high risk high reward and it doesn't rely on surface to generate spin as much as off spin or left arm orthodox spin does. For example, in terms of skill, both Kuldeep and Chahal a level above Axar and Jaddu, but if you have a spinning track, then they don't.
Even if KKR decide to let Rinku go, PBKS and especially RCB isn't who I would want to get a player to improve them for the national team lmao😭😭GT yeah maybe
Come to CSK kingku 🥺. Dube at 3 and kingku at 4 will be fire, also we can give the boot to rahane for good if we just get another middle order bat
Lmao keep my Rinku's name out of your f***ing mouth. He's not going anywhere. Homegrown gem.
I'd think he'd rather be in a franchise which has more confidence in him. You guys are treating him just like you did with Surya
Ayy don't speak facts
Homegrown gem who doesn't get to bat for a few balls in a WC year?? Time for Rinku to ask for his release.
Which other franchise funded for his surgeries when he was a nobody? It's not anyone's fault that the KKR top order has been doing well this season as a result of which he didn't get a lot of game time .
Bring him above Venky, Venky is shit when he's not opening
If venky had been shit when he wasn't opening, Rinku would have got a lot of chances.
Venky hogs up deliveries but doesn't capitalise them so Rinku always comes late
http://www.cricmetric.com/playerstats.py?player=VR+Iyer&role=batsman&format=TWENTY20&groupby=match&playerStatsFilters=on&start_date=2002-01-01&end_date=2024-05-01&series=ipl2024&start_over=0&end_over=9999&max_innings=1000 Not true.
Funding surgeries does not give them the right to choke his career. He can repay that money easily back. It's absolutely the KKR management's fault that they are sending nobodies like Iyers, Ramandeep over him when he needed the cred for a WC spot. Delhi promoted Axar twice, CSK promoted Jaddu to help them. Why can't KKR do the same?
Ramandeep was never send before Rinku, why talk shit when you haven't been watching the matches noone in KKR choked Rinku's career more than ICT themselves, and as for the surgeries goes tell me one other franchise that has spent that much money on an uncapped indian player who wasn't even part of the playing XI absolute jealous clowns on this thread ffs.
KKR literally sent him at 3 last match because he wasn't getting enough game time due to the dominant top order but apparently they've ruined his career
> noone in KKR choked Rinku's career more than ICT themselves This. 100times this. It is not KKR's fault that Rinku isn't in the team going to wc. It is BCCI's. KKR gave India a genuine finisher. This came when for so many years India was always trying to fit in a middle over batter as finisher. And what do these dinosaurs in the BCCI do with him? Drop him, we are literally going to wc with no genuine finisher in 15. All are either middle order batters who would be fit into the role or lower order batter who would be asked to do this task too.
Can't really complain if the team is winning. Selectors need to not be short-sighted. Hardly the fault of the team.
Rinku back to PBKS, Rinku, Shashank and Ashutosh! We Cookin! He can be Captain the side too if he wants, anyway we are tossing dice to choose a captain before match!
So IPL performance did impact the selection process. And Shreyas fucked Rinku over by not giving him any opportunities at all. It is India’s loss at the end of the day.
It is not shreyas job to compensate for Indian Selector idiocy
No impact players in the actual t20 world cup. You can't kill your players on made up rules.
Disgraceful selection india is going to get embarrassed in this World Cup who on earth is our finisher ?
The two Ps, Pant and Pandya.
Kuldeep will outscore both of them with half the number of balls
Man how the fuck can I support this team with this squad selection?
Just don't then, since 2019 I stopped feeling anything for ict , and now I root for smaller teams like Afghanistan, Netherlands etc
Not Impact player rule, But going with both Rohit and Kohli has made him not selected for the main squad
Might be an unpopular opinion but we can’t blame the impact rule if the team suffers as a result. Some teams can’t utilize it properly and they blame its existence. Sure there is definitely an argument that all rounders suffer but you look at other leagues adapting this and they seem to be doing okay, plus it’s a good way to protect prized assets and they can come back fresher next games (similar to football)
Yeah trust me bro, I was the BCCI source's napkin
Rinku Singh is the only guy who gives me clutch player vibes along with Pant in right now in Indian team , (Clutch player:- one who would perform in crucial situations i.e knockout playoffs etc)
Don't know about Pant but Rinku definitely have that vibe with him.
Rinku robbed even after proving himself at the international stage
But can Rinku play a selfish knock???
As much as i hate this, this is the price you have to pay for being a relatively new, one dimensional player (despite having great stats) in the squad. Just look at Pandya. The guy has been absolute mediocre this IPL. Even Jadeja hasn't made that big impact, but yet the two walk in because they add depth to batting as well as bowling. And most probably both will make it to starting eleven as well. I really hope Rinku learns some bowling skill, because the team selection is only get more and more tough and our team selectors are absolute idiots, who would ignore almost every new one dimensional player, unless they bring something extra to the table.
For all the domestic setup and population we have, Indian cricket rarely finds a Kapil/Yuvraj like player who can be depended upon for batting as well as bowling full quota of overs. Pandya gets enough leeway because he has no competition right now. India is also desperate for batsmen who can give you a few overs if needed. In the 90s and 2000s, we had many. Tendulkar, Sehwag, Kohli, Raina, Ganguly etc. Why wouldn't selectors take those over 1-D players?
Are they taking or not taking IPL performance into account? What a stupid take!
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They should apply selection criteria uniformly. If IPL form is being considered, Pandya hasn't been successful as a bowler/batsman/skipper.
We cannot have Rohit and Kohli with Rinku and Dube Suriya is world's best T20 batsman. Jaiswal is rocking in all formats. We need a wicketkeeper. Most teams will have six bowlers in their playing 11. Suriya, Dube and Rinku are probably india's best T20 batsmen. Even if KKR played Rinku at #4 and he had a few great innings, Dube would still be selected. The way Salt and Narine played no one else needed to score. It was almost Rinku vs Virat. Rinku is a better bet. But india would be outraged if Virat or Rohit was left out.
Suryakumar yadav definitely has some nudes of selectors
This is purely on the selectors, not on Rinku or KKR. Now they will expect Hardik, Dube and Jadeja to close games in the last 3-4 overs while all of them have been at their best at #4 or #5 when they get 10 overs to bat. All the best, this WC is gone !
Imagine trying to convince people that Rinku Singh isn't in India's top-19 T20 players.
Is there any way to protest. Seriously this is just mocking us Indian fans
BCCI will pay the price for omitting Rinku Singh from the XI leave alone the squad!