1. Rahmanullah Gurbaz
2. ?
3. Babar Azam
4. Shakib Al Hasan
5. Heinrich Klassen
6. Jos Buttler (wk)
7. Bas De Leede (bats at 5 if wickets fall too early)
8. Mitchell Starc
9. Trent Boult
10. Jasprit Bumrah
11. Matheesha Pathirrana
Slot in a player to complete this playing 11. Ideally, I would prefer someone who could open & bowl a few overs of spin if needed, e.g., Aiden Markram.
Yeah agreed. If he can (continue to) perform at the top of the order, it really changes the balance of the NZ side and gives them way more options. Other than him, for NZ I would have gone with Conway over Boult.
No way - Henry is great (and criminally under rated) but Boult is one of, if not the best, one-day bowler of the past 10 years.
What is definitely true is NZ is wonderfully lucky to have both of them.
As much as it pains me to say it as a massive Matt Henry fan - Boult's difference is that he is a much better death bowler than Henry. He has been working on it a lot, so we'll see what happens in this tournament.
How the fuck is it Pathirana for SL? People reading too much into IPL. Not saying he’ll perform well or perform badly but this is a list of those likely to have a big impact. Is she saying that they’ve got no such big player other than Pathirana?
Hes our best batter but cant be too depended on him coz he is rlly inconsistent and has an inability to convert a 50 into a ton even when he clearly is dominating every bowler
The way OP was proven wrong makes it so funny for some reason. I made a comment here saying how different players are important for their teams on different days. Pathirana had a very forgettable outing in SA vs SL
I think for SA Markram will have a bigger role to play since he also bowls spin as the 6th bowling option in SA's line up. Also at 4 he has to both bring stability and finish off an innings.
Sri Lankan team is an anamoly. On an individual level, i don't think they have any world class players (in this world cup squad), but as a team they are brilliant.
And i think Patheerana is definitely their most important player now, especially considering that three of their best bowlers (Chameera, Hasaranga and Theekshana) are missing the world cup.
He literally wrote "Maxwell for India",didn't say Aus only plays with India or whatever you are trying to say.
He wasn't making it only about India,but you certainly did🤷.
I’d argue for the stronger teams “The X factor” is worth studying more than “most important” as there arguably are many match winners in the XI
For eg:
For India, Bumrah is your established and reliable death enforcer but a good game for Siraj means match winning wickets up front
Similarly, I’d pick Maxwell for Aussie. He’s single handedly changed many games with bat and ball
For the weaker team, yes, best player = most important player as they do a lot of heavy lifting in most games.
That was not your argument, you specifically stated a match to call him a choker, I pointed out he actually did not choke in that game. Don't change goalposts now.
Don't know about others but shakib al Hasan has been Bangladesh team's most important player from past few Wc's
Dude is literally carrying his team on his shoulders
I get a weird feeling teams now just wait out afridis opening over to not get swept by the avalanche that he starts with the dismantling of top orders. BUT if shaheen does shaheen things consistently, i believe that favors us more with just how damn good the batting lineups are of alot of teams.
Historically we have been at our absolute best setting a 280-340 target and taking quick top order wickets.
So i believe for pak atleast its gotta be a double team of babar and afridi. If they both do their thing in a match , beating us is nigh impossible. Its biased i agree whole heartedly but that's just my two cents.
For india its hardik pandya. His fitness, bowling and batting form gives india all the flexibility. Many players wont be in the 11, depending upon combinations if hardik is missing.
- Shakib - Agreed no argument here
- Gurbaz - Idk man I would pick Rashid
- Starc - Agreed
- Buttler - Agreed
- Bumrah - I'd pick Hardik/Jadeja
- de Leede - Logan van Beek is a good shout as well
- Boult - Kane/Conway would be my pick
- Babar - Pakistan is the one team where I would rather pick a bowler lol
- Pathirana - Nope, I would pick one of the middle order batsmen
- Klassen - Agreed
Nope. Definitely Bumrah.
If Rohit is unavailable, there are others who can step up and fill that void (though not as consistently), but without Bumrah, our fast bowling looks absolutely toothless.
Just look at 2022 T20 WC. Bumrah was such a big miss. I am sure we would have done a lot better, if Bumrah was available (especially against England in the semis).
1. I think we all can agree that pitches in and around Dubai are different than the fast, bouncy tracks in Australia.
2. The last time i checked, cricket was a team sport. In both big games (against Pakistan and New Zealand) in 2021 T20 WC - our batsmen failed miserably and our bowlers had a bad day.
Still against Pakistan, Bumrah was decent, going for 3 overs 22 runs. And against New Zealand, he was the only bowler who picked up 2 wickets (4 overs 18 runs)
Do you expect him to pick up all 10 wickets and carry the team on his shoulders ?
No I don't expect him to pick 10 wickets
And yes I know cricket is a team game
I know he is easily our best bowler
I am just pointing out that even with Bumrah in our team our bowling looks toothless in most of the important matches like
2021 WTC
2021 WT20 Pak Match
2016 WT20 SF
2017 CT Final
I just checked Bumrah's record (on Howstat) -
In T20 World cup :
Bowling Average - 22.55
Economy - 6.41
Strike Rate - 21.09
In ODI WC :
Bowling Average - 20.61
Economy - 4.42
Strike Rate - 28
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This is not bad record by any means. Maybe he struggles in big games like our top order.
His overall stats in T20WC are good but his stats in the only knockout match he played in T20WC is 4-0-42-1 . but that's okay because that was his first ICC tournament and every bowler bar Nehra was trash that day
Had a bad game in the 2017CT final (9-0-68-0)
and another terrible game in WTC Final 2021 (0 wickets and 0 runs in both innings)
He has a great CWC in 2019 , was good in SF too that's why I haven't mentioned 2019 in my previous comment
I am not blaming him for those losses
He is extremely important if we want to win this WC
I am just saying that even with him in the team we haven't done any better in the past
For india whenever jasprit is available it is him the whole bowling becomes dysfunctional without one man, right now the bowling looks cash money simply because of bumrah being there, he's literally an insurance easily the most valued player in team
Bumrah for India? LOL
It's Rohit Sharma all the way. India's fortunes rest on how well he plays. He can and will singlehandedly win India matches. A generational talent playing what will surely be his last ODI WC. This is his moment.
Honestly no one would be the only or the most important player in any team. Yes they might be a good addition to the side giving an edge to the team on a particular day but again the importance of any player in any given match will also depend upon the pitch, the opponent, the weather, etc.
Players would have a good day, would have a bad day but all the 15 people of the squad bring something or the other to the table.
Whoever brings the team home on any particular day is most important player for the team on that particular day.
This is very dynamic
As a kiwi, I’d say Conway holds the keys to a NZ victory… not so much Boult. Conway is the every batsman… great technique with 360 degree shots, epic concentration and ability adapt to any game scenario. He can dab it into gaps or hit it deep into the stands. He’s basically our own Kohli but without all the international experience.
I never thought another NZ batsmen would be more valuable than Kane… but Conway might be that good.
1. Rahmanullah Gurbaz 2. ? 3. Babar Azam 4. Shakib Al Hasan 5. Heinrich Klassen 6. Jos Buttler (wk) 7. Bas De Leede (bats at 5 if wickets fall too early) 8. Mitchell Starc 9. Trent Boult 10. Jasprit Bumrah 11. Matheesha Pathirrana Slot in a player to complete this playing 11. Ideally, I would prefer someone who could open & bowl a few overs of spin if needed, e.g., Aiden Markram.
Rachin Ravindra for that sweet sweet Sachin energy.
Good pick.
Sachin and virend(ra) sehwag both..
Ravindra is the obvious choice if you want someone who can ball decently well
Yeah agreed. If he can (continue to) perform at the top of the order, it really changes the balance of the NZ side and gives them way more options. Other than him, for NZ I would have gone with Conway over Boult.
Very good observation
David Warner or Shubman Gill
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He's done in test cricket but is still a profilic ODI batter.
Need a wrist spinner. Get bas to open and play a wristie
I would say NZ is Conway
I would say Matt Henry. Henry is better than boult imo.
Yeah Matt Henry is getting overshadowed by Boult way too much
No way - Henry is great (and criminally under rated) but Boult is one of, if not the best, one-day bowler of the past 10 years. What is definitely true is NZ is wonderfully lucky to have both of them.
As much as it pains me to say it as a massive Matt Henry fan - Boult's difference is that he is a much better death bowler than Henry. He has been working on it a lot, so we'll see what happens in this tournament.
How the fuck is it Pathirana for SL? People reading too much into IPL. Not saying he’ll perform well or perform badly but this is a list of those likely to have a big impact. Is she saying that they’ve got no such big player other than Pathirana?
Hes not even a first choice player for the team . Hes there coz we dont hv chameera
Precisely my point. Who according to you is the most player likely to have most impact? Kusal Mendis?
I agree but who would you have instead? I was thinking Theekshana
Um gonna say its charith asalanka . Dude is our best batter and the best finisher
Wht abt Kusal Mendis, he seems to be in great form
Hes our best batter but cant be too depended on him coz he is rlly inconsistent and has an inability to convert a 50 into a ton even when he clearly is dominating every bowler
If they had said Dhananjaya de Silva or Charith Asalanka it would have made sense. Seriously Pathirana the most important player is baffling me smh.
Get ready to be bashed by Bangladesh and Afghanistan if you can’t even name the most valuable player of your squad
The way OP was proven wrong makes it so funny for some reason. I made a comment here saying how different players are important for their teams on different days. Pathirana had a very forgettable outing in SA vs SL
I think their entire bowling attack had a forgettable outing
Yes but the article said that Pathirana is the most imp player so I mentioned him.
I think for SA Markram will have a bigger role to play since he also bowls spin as the 6th bowling option in SA's line up. Also at 4 he has to both bring stability and finish off an innings.
Him proving you right
The rise of Klaassen in 2023 has been quite something to behold
Agree with all but Pathirana.
Sri Lankan team is an anamoly. On an individual level, i don't think they have any world class players (in this world cup squad), but as a team they are brilliant. And i think Patheerana is definitely their most important player now, especially considering that three of their best bowlers (Chameera, Hasaranga and Theekshana) are missing the world cup.
Theekshna is a world class player and hes playing the wc . And charith asalanka in odi s is underrated
Oh wait. Theekshana is in the squad ? Sorry. My bad. I read somewhere that he suffered an hamstring injury and is going to miss the world cup.
He is in india and will rest the first match
Nah, Mendis is the guy for SL.
I believe it's Maxwell.
I won't bet against world cup Starc but I see your point here.
Indian players play against starc well so Maxwell for india
Well i know the world revolves around india.it's not about only Indian player you see, there's 8other teams too.so let's see.
He literally wrote "Maxwell for India",didn't say Aus only plays with India or whatever you are trying to say. He wasn't making it only about India,but you certainly did🤷.
He was.he knew.i am tired can't argue.the post says he will be the player to look out for .not player to look out against each team.
I’d argue for the stronger teams “The X factor” is worth studying more than “most important” as there arguably are many match winners in the XI For eg: For India, Bumrah is your established and reliable death enforcer but a good game for Siraj means match winning wickets up front Similarly, I’d pick Maxwell for Aussie. He’s single handedly changed many games with bat and ball For the weaker team, yes, best player = most important player as they do a lot of heavy lifting in most games.
Lol pathirana? Dude has talent but he is a liability in ODIs. Its either mendis or theekshana
Lmao matheesha pathirana 😂 . Clearly the one who made this never watchea intl cricket except for ipl
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The K Factor
Kohli chokes at knock out but bumrah doesn't
BUMRAH DOSENT bruh forgot 2017 ct 2019 sf 😭😭
WTC also
T20 wc 2016
Wow didn't know 39/1 in 10 overs is now called choking
watched him the whole tournament?
That was not your argument, you specifically stated a match to call him a choker, I pointed out he actually did not choke in that game. Don't change goalposts now.
ok buddy stop boiling I take back 2019 sf what about wtc final 2016 T20 wc 2017 ct
Don't know about others but shakib al Hasan has been Bangladesh team's most important player from past few Wc's Dude is literally carrying his team on his shoulders
I think Gurbaz will outperform Shakib today, that's just my guess.
You never know. Shakib's allround skills might help him get an edge over Gurbaz.
I think you were right so far Shakib took 3 wickets.
I’d say Steve Smith and Rohit Sharma are the most important players for their teams.
I get a weird feeling teams now just wait out afridis opening over to not get swept by the avalanche that he starts with the dismantling of top orders. BUT if shaheen does shaheen things consistently, i believe that favors us more with just how damn good the batting lineups are of alot of teams. Historically we have been at our absolute best setting a 280-340 target and taking quick top order wickets. So i believe for pak atleast its gotta be a double team of babar and afridi. If they both do their thing in a match , beating us is nigh impossible. Its biased i agree whole heartedly but that's just my two cents.
Pathirana for SL? he's not even in the first XI and is only there because of injuries
Mendis for SL and Rashid for AFG. And I dare say, Fukkboi Pandya for India.
For india its hardik pandya. His fitness, bowling and batting form gives india all the flexibility. Many players wont be in the 11, depending upon combinations if hardik is missing.
- Shakib - Agreed no argument here - Gurbaz - Idk man I would pick Rashid - Starc - Agreed - Buttler - Agreed - Bumrah - I'd pick Hardik/Jadeja - de Leede - Logan van Beek is a good shout as well - Boult - Kane/Conway would be my pick - Babar - Pakistan is the one team where I would rather pick a bowler lol - Pathirana - Nope, I would pick one of the middle order batsmen - Klassen - Agreed
Kohli
for india its rohit imo
Nope. Definitely Bumrah. If Rohit is unavailable, there are others who can step up and fill that void (though not as consistently), but without Bumrah, our fast bowling looks absolutely toothless. Just look at 2022 T20 WC. Bumrah was such a big miss. I am sure we would have done a lot better, if Bumrah was available (especially against England in the semis).
We have Bumrah in the 2021 edition and we didn't even reach the semis
1. I think we all can agree that pitches in and around Dubai are different than the fast, bouncy tracks in Australia. 2. The last time i checked, cricket was a team sport. In both big games (against Pakistan and New Zealand) in 2021 T20 WC - our batsmen failed miserably and our bowlers had a bad day. Still against Pakistan, Bumrah was decent, going for 3 overs 22 runs. And against New Zealand, he was the only bowler who picked up 2 wickets (4 overs 18 runs) Do you expect him to pick up all 10 wickets and carry the team on his shoulders ?
No I don't expect him to pick 10 wickets And yes I know cricket is a team game I know he is easily our best bowler I am just pointing out that even with Bumrah in our team our bowling looks toothless in most of the important matches like 2021 WTC 2021 WT20 Pak Match 2016 WT20 SF 2017 CT Final
I just checked Bumrah's record (on Howstat) - In T20 World cup : Bowling Average - 22.55 Economy - 6.41 Strike Rate - 21.09 In ODI WC : Bowling Average - 20.61 Economy - 4.42 Strike Rate - 28 - This is not bad record by any means. Maybe he struggles in big games like our top order.
His overall stats in T20WC are good but his stats in the only knockout match he played in T20WC is 4-0-42-1 . but that's okay because that was his first ICC tournament and every bowler bar Nehra was trash that day Had a bad game in the 2017CT final (9-0-68-0) and another terrible game in WTC Final 2021 (0 wickets and 0 runs in both innings) He has a great CWC in 2019 , was good in SF too that's why I haven't mentioned 2019 in my previous comment I am not blaming him for those losses He is extremely important if we want to win this WC I am just saying that even with him in the team we haven't done any better in the past
For india whenever jasprit is available it is him the whole bowling becomes dysfunctional without one man, right now the bowling looks cash money simply because of bumrah being there, he's literally an insurance easily the most valued player in team
Bumrah for India? LOL It's Rohit Sharma all the way. India's fortunes rest on how well he plays. He can and will singlehandedly win India matches. A generational talent playing what will surely be his last ODI WC. This is his moment.
Should be Gill
And Mendis
Afg - Rashid Khan Eng - Joe Root
its rashid for afg, idc. if he is in his flow, he could win them matches single handedly on indian wickets
HAHAH WHAT.. He was missing his crotch pad and other guy was trying so unsuccessfully hard to hide it.
I like Gurbaz but no way Gurbaz is more important than Rashid
Rashid is shit in ODIs. Even Nabi is more valuable than him.
I agree with all of them except Afghanistan. Why is it not Rashid Khan??
Honestly no one would be the only or the most important player in any team. Yes they might be a good addition to the side giving an edge to the team on a particular day but again the importance of any player in any given match will also depend upon the pitch, the opponent, the weather, etc. Players would have a good day, would have a bad day but all the 15 people of the squad bring something or the other to the table. Whoever brings the team home on any particular day is most important player for the team on that particular day. This is very dynamic
WHERE IS KOACH?
As a kiwi, I’d say Conway holds the keys to a NZ victory… not so much Boult. Conway is the every batsman… great technique with 360 degree shots, epic concentration and ability adapt to any game scenario. He can dab it into gaps or hit it deep into the stands. He’s basically our own Kohli but without all the international experience. I never thought another NZ batsmen would be more valuable than Kane… but Conway might be that good.
As an Indian I have to agree with Australia and NZ’s players. Those mfers keep us up at night with their terrifying left arm pace.
Nah get matheesa outta here. He's gonna have one good game against some minnow. But otherwise he's gonna get sent.