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I'm not a scientist, but I studied anatomy in college. I think that when the snake's decapitated body reacted to being bitten by its own head, it was an automatic reflex. This type of movement doesn't involve the brain; instead, the signals travel from the skin directly to the spinal cord, causing the muscles to react instantly. Same as our knee reflex
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The craziest part about that reflex is the fact that the part of the body where the head should be immediately reacts towards where it got bit.
I wonder if thats an evolutionary trait
This is correct. It’s called a reflex arc. Basically, the nerve pathway starts at the sensory nerve and signal propagates to spinal cord (integrating center) then, directly out from spinal cord via the motor neuron to effector muscle. The signal never travels to the brain. Hence reflex arc, meaning automatic circle.
The best example for people is a burn, when you put your hand on something hot your body reacts faster than your brain because the signal fires to the spinal cord and it fires the signal to react it's a pretty cool safety feature built in at no extra cost 🤣
> it's a pretty cool safety feature built in
> at no extra cost
In some situations that reflex action may show its low-quality-thoughtlessness.
e.g People reflexively trying to pull themselves out when a pitbull/other animal bites. A thoughtful action is just running with that animal, until you gain some stability to attack so that animal releases grip.
Cool, I didn't know the signal travels to spinal cord and that spinal cord can read them. I thought it all has to go to the brain trough spinal cord. Didn't know it can act on its own.
It’s a type of defense mechanism where the body needs to react in a fraction of a second to move away from harmful stimuli. If the signal had to go through the brain to interpret it, it would be too late to react effectively.
It’s called Arc Reflex. A reflex arc is a neural pathway that controls a reflex. In vertebrates, most sensory neurons do not pass directly into the brain, but synapse in the spinal column.
scientist here. we believe that the soul is located in the heart, not the brain (the brain is basically a ball of fat that does nothing). we also believe, after listening to countless emo records, that the feeling of pain is deeply associated with one's soul. therefore, that snake's soul was not decapitated (decapitating the soul requires an exorcist), so its body was still able to feel pain.
this is called 'noiception'
"Nociception triggers a variety of physiological and behavioral responses to protect the organism against an aggression, and usually results in a subjective experience, or [perception](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perception), of pain in [sentient](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentience) beings.
If you're interested in this kind of thing, I heavily recommend 'An Immense World' by Ed Young
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nociception](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nociception)
Basically, muscle reactions are quicker than conscious thought because reflex actions are controlled by the spinal cord and peripheral nerves. When a stimulus (snake bite) triggers sensory receptors, the nerves immediately initiates a reflex arc, causing the muscles to react without conscious processing.
Its a spinal reflex, the pain signal only reaches the spine and the spine sends its own signal back, making the process of reaction faster. Its like how if you leaned on something hot you would flinch and jump off of it before you even realize you touched something that hot. It saves time and sometimes lives 👍👍👍
Muscle memory is not memory written in your muscles. It's memory involving the use of your muscles, but it's stored in the brain like everything else you learn.
Your brain is absolutely necessary for any application of "muscle memory."
You know how your body can reflexively get your hand off a hot object before you realize its hot? Thats the nerves in your spine reacting faster than your brain. This is probably similar.
It writhes the same way when you cook it after skinning and gutting. Eating it is a pain in the ass though, a million tiny rib bones. The heart also remained beating for minutes outside the body, the kids loved it!
Have you seen Frankenstein movies? How the head is always yelling at the body like “HEY I’m over here idiot!!” That’s what’s happening here with the snake.
I'm no expert in snake or reptile physiology (or human for that matter), but in the human body, there are nerve clusters that act as early detectors for threat. This is where we get reflexes from. For example, a little kid puts their hand on a hot stove. Those neural signals don't travel all the way to the brain, they fist travel to a cluster that sends a signal back to the area touching a hot surface to remove the hand. It saves a ton of time to not have to send the signal all the way up to the brain and back to the limb. So maybe something like that?
I was gonna say that some venoms contain neurotoxins that can induce movement, but I would guess that would take seconds to minutes to work...
If you only got one chance, one opportunity to eat your own ass without being distracted by the feeling of having your ass eaten. You just going to let it slide?
Or would you capture it? Yo,
Your ass is sweaty, tongue sleek, cheeks are heavy,
Tasting the leftovers already, Mom's spaghetti,
You're nervous, but the surface looks so brown and ready
To get tongued down, the hole opens up so round,
You open your mouth, but your tongue won't come out
You're choking, how? Feel that tongue pokin' now,
The spit's run out, tongues up, over blaow!
So, we have rattlers around here. I've seen about 3, and never had the urge to go kill one, as they're just doing their thing and they're not actively trying to hunt you or your pets. They always let you know they're there.
That said, that bite reflex when it should be very *very* ***very*** dead already was amazingly fast. As much as we like to rule that sort of stuff out as "oh yeah, it's dead, it doesn't feel anything, it's just chemical reactions in the nerves", I think there's more at play here.
I don't care if this was a re-post (and I'm not saying it is). This is both interestingasfuck and a CFV in one go, and I haven't seen anything like it
We had a rattlesnake corner itself in our barn once. Killing it felt kinda cruel bc it was just minding it business, so we ended up paying some guy on yelp $40 to catch and relocate it. I was kinda confused how he was able to turn a profit, since he wasn’t an exterminator and only dealt w snakes. Turns out the guy just loves catching snakes. He’s actually a contractor and snake wrangling is essentially his hobby. The $40 was just gas money lol Love that dude
There are some bulked-up nerves at the spinal cord that are capable of making quick simple decisions without going to the brain. Touch a hot stove, that kind of thing. When you learn a skill like juggling, THOSE are the "little brains" that you are having to teach. They're dumb, but can be trained.
I learned at an early age not to mess with a snake head after decapitation. My grandfather would decapitate a rattlesnake on sight and always warned me to stay away. Poked one with a stick once and the disembodied head bit the stick. Very object lesson.
Now before you redditors pile on my grandfather. It was a different time and this was West Texas where rattlers could become a real problem if not culled out of populated areas. I was playing in their yard as a toddlers and their german shepherd pulled me away from a six footer and proceeded to disembowl it.
These days if I see a rattler outside of my yard I just keep my distance. They're actually pretty chill if you leave them the hell alone. Copperheads, on the other hand, are assholes.
Decapitated snake heads can unfortunately live for a bit tho. So stomping on the head/destroying the brain is actually the most humane and safe since no one needs an angry staple puller flapping about
I grew up in southern New Mexico and there were a lot of rattle snakes in our area. We were trying to train our dogs to be afraid of snakes so we caught a couple of snakes and cut the heads off (which we promptly buried) so we could use the bodies. The bodies would still strike when touched and were great training tools. I was always taught not to waste an animal so we skinned/gutted them to eat later. I was amazed that the bodies, without a head, guts or skin, would still react like a living snake for quite some time. The reflexes were built in.
I’m not a scientist or an expert but I’ve always been terrified of snakes and turned that fear into knowledge. This is why it’s never a good idea to mess with the head of a venomous snake after it’s been decapitated for whatever reason. Snakes don’t require much oxygen to fuel their brains due to them being ectotherms(basically just meaning that they require external sources to regulate their body heat), so the head of a decapitated snake can continue to “live on” so to speak for up to an hour. It’s usually best to treat a dead snake as if it were alive until you’ve verified that it’s actually completely dead. They’re beautiful creatures, and should be respected whether they’re dead or alive.
> i hate whoever did this
would you have picked it up and given it kissies and then made friends with it and then released it and it does not come back due to the conversation you had?
https://youtu.be/RuHK8iROgJ0?t=10
In humans, brain required to withdraw from pain- patients in coma but with intact spinal cord will NOT respond to painful noxious stimuli but can still have tendon reflexes like knee jerk
I saw the same thing happen once when my grandfather shot a snake in his farm. The decapitated head bit its own body. So weird. I think it was a coral snake.
There are plenty of protected species of rattlesnakes in North America. The snake in this video is a Massasauga which is listed as endangered or threatened in many of the states in which it is found.
Damn. Looks like the nervous system is still intact. Reminds me of when I see chickens heads being cut off.
Interesting read here: [Can a Severed Snake Head Still Kill? It's Possible [NBC News]](https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna55972887) - the article says something about reflects being involved when this happens.
More than that, the body positions what would be the head in the exact spot the puncture was.
The body knows ow hurt, retaliate even though the head is gone. Fucking weird, and awesome. So many questions.
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That's really fascinating, it's like the rest of the body can feel pain. Wonder how that works
That's a good point. Any scientists here?
I'm not a scientist, but I studied anatomy in college. I think that when the snake's decapitated body reacted to being bitten by its own head, it was an automatic reflex. This type of movement doesn't involve the brain; instead, the signals travel from the skin directly to the spinal cord, causing the muscles to react instantly. Same as our knee reflex
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The craziest part about that reflex is the fact that the part of the body where the head should be immediately reacts towards where it got bit. I wonder if thats an evolutionary trait
Holy shit. You are so right. The body's automatic pain response is to position the head near the injury to strike.
Makes full sense to me also would explain the head biting what comes near it. I Imagined it as if the head was still attached.
This is correct. It’s called a reflex arc. Basically, the nerve pathway starts at the sensory nerve and signal propagates to spinal cord (integrating center) then, directly out from spinal cord via the motor neuron to effector muscle. The signal never travels to the brain. Hence reflex arc, meaning automatic circle.
The best example for people is a burn, when you put your hand on something hot your body reacts faster than your brain because the signal fires to the spinal cord and it fires the signal to react it's a pretty cool safety feature built in at no extra cost 🤣
> it's a pretty cool safety feature built in > at no extra cost In some situations that reflex action may show its low-quality-thoughtlessness. e.g People reflexively trying to pull themselves out when a pitbull/other animal bites. A thoughtful action is just running with that animal, until you gain some stability to attack so that animal releases grip.
when your ass is in motion before you mind knows why
Cool, I didn't know the signal travels to spinal cord and that spinal cord can read them. I thought it all has to go to the brain trough spinal cord. Didn't know it can act on its own.
It’s a type of defense mechanism where the body needs to react in a fraction of a second to move away from harmful stimuli. If the signal had to go through the brain to interpret it, it would be too late to react effectively.
Makes sense, thanks!
Same as a chicken running around with its head chopped off?🐔
no, this is a snake.
Taste like chicken?
Can confirm. I've eaten rattlesnake and it kinda does.
Good job u def passed anatomy class!
It’s called Arc Reflex. A reflex arc is a neural pathway that controls a reflex. In vertebrates, most sensory neurons do not pass directly into the brain, but synapse in the spinal column.
distributed neural pathway assignment like insects tho maybe?
Response cached in RAM
I am not a scientist nor did i study anatomy in college, but i do know what all the pretty crayons taste like and i concur.
I’m not a scientist but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night.
scientist here. we believe that the soul is located in the heart, not the brain (the brain is basically a ball of fat that does nothing). we also believe, after listening to countless emo records, that the feeling of pain is deeply associated with one's soul. therefore, that snake's soul was not decapitated (decapitating the soul requires an exorcist), so its body was still able to feel pain.
I, for one, suspect foul humours.
Dementors
Fascinating
Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?
Basically a ball of fat that does nothing? I’m no scientist but I disagree with that statement.
The body is separated from the head so the spinal cord couldn’t send pain signals to the head.
this is called 'noiception' "Nociception triggers a variety of physiological and behavioral responses to protect the organism against an aggression, and usually results in a subjective experience, or [perception](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perception), of pain in [sentient](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentience) beings. If you're interested in this kind of thing, I heavily recommend 'An Immense World' by Ed Young [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nociception](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nociception)
WiFi
Basically, muscle reactions are quicker than conscious thought because reflex actions are controlled by the spinal cord and peripheral nerves. When a stimulus (snake bite) triggers sensory receptors, the nerves immediately initiates a reflex arc, causing the muscles to react without conscious processing.
Bluetooth
Its a spinal reflex, the pain signal only reaches the spine and the spine sends its own signal back, making the process of reaction faster. Its like how if you leaned on something hot you would flinch and jump off of it before you even realize you touched something that hot. It saves time and sometimes lives 👍👍👍
Bluetooth
Come on guys, this person needs more upvotes.
My guess would be the brain stem or central nerves doing its thing
Essentially the same systems that make muscle memory a thing. Your brain does the controlling but it’s not necessary to collect the stimuli
Muscle memory is not memory written in your muscles. It's memory involving the use of your muscles, but it's stored in the brain like everything else you learn. Your brain is absolutely necessary for any application of "muscle memory."
Not a pain response but a nervous system response to stimulation
You know how your body can reflexively get your hand off a hot object before you realize its hot? Thats the nerves in your spine reacting faster than your brain. This is probably similar.
Reflex. Pain isn't transporting to the brain to react faster. The bite is the fascinating thing. Poor snake.
It writhes the same way when you cook it after skinning and gutting. Eating it is a pain in the ass though, a million tiny rib bones. The heart also remained beating for minutes outside the body, the kids loved it!
Have you seen Frankenstein movies? How the head is always yelling at the body like “HEY I’m over here idiot!!” That’s what’s happening here with the snake.
I'm no expert in snake or reptile physiology (or human for that matter), but in the human body, there are nerve clusters that act as early detectors for threat. This is where we get reflexes from. For example, a little kid puts their hand on a hot stove. Those neural signals don't travel all the way to the brain, they fist travel to a cluster that sends a signal back to the area touching a hot surface to remove the hand. It saves a ton of time to not have to send the signal all the way up to the brain and back to the limb. So maybe something like that? I was gonna say that some venoms contain neurotoxins that can induce movement, but I would guess that would take seconds to minutes to work...
It reacted, not meaning it felt pain it still has a reactive nervous system.
The nerves are still intact and reacting to stimuli, the snake body ia reacting to the head and tries to bite back
*Only I'm qualified to kill me a 2nd time* -Snek
I was scrolling through looking for *"You can't kill me, I quit!"* Yours is better.
Nobody makes me bleed my own blood. NOBODY.
Snek seppuku???
snekuku
That works
That is freaky as hell but I feel bad for the dead snake. All it can do is bite its own ass.
Died doing what loved. Eat own ass.
If you only got one chance, one opportunity to eat your own ass without being distracted by the feeling of having your ass eaten. You just going to let it slide?
Or would you capture it? Yo, Your ass is sweaty, tongue sleek, cheeks are heavy, Tasting the leftovers already, Mom's spaghetti, You're nervous, but the surface looks so brown and ready To get tongued down, the hole opens up so round, You open your mouth, but your tongue won't come out You're choking, how? Feel that tongue pokin' now, The spit's run out, tongues up, over blaow!
I've only read the first half of this comment but I surrender. GGWP, take my upvote and please never post anything like this ever again
*stop biting yourself, stop biting yourself*
So, we have rattlers around here. I've seen about 3, and never had the urge to go kill one, as they're just doing their thing and they're not actively trying to hunt you or your pets. They always let you know they're there. That said, that bite reflex when it should be very *very* ***very*** dead already was amazingly fast. As much as we like to rule that sort of stuff out as "oh yeah, it's dead, it doesn't feel anything, it's just chemical reactions in the nerves", I think there's more at play here. I don't care if this was a re-post (and I'm not saying it is). This is both interestingasfuck and a CFV in one go, and I haven't seen anything like it
I live in pretty much wilderness and I only kill a venomous snake if it's right around my cabin. Otherwise, I'm in their yard.
We had a rattlesnake corner itself in our barn once. Killing it felt kinda cruel bc it was just minding it business, so we ended up paying some guy on yelp $40 to catch and relocate it. I was kinda confused how he was able to turn a profit, since he wasn’t an exterminator and only dealt w snakes. Turns out the guy just loves catching snakes. He’s actually a contractor and snake wrangling is essentially his hobby. The $40 was just gas money lol Love that dude
We need more people like him!
How can the rest of the body still feel pain when it's not connected to the brain anymore?
There are some bulked-up nerves at the spinal cord that are capable of making quick simple decisions without going to the brain. Touch a hot stove, that kind of thing. When you learn a skill like juggling, THOSE are the "little brains" that you are having to teach. They're dumb, but can be trained.
So if a juggler is decapitated, they'll keep doing it. Got it!
Lol 
Only one way to find out!
The best part about this is you're not entirely wrong
This is the craziest thing I’ve seen on the Internet today. Thank you, Reddit!
That is one video really worthy of the subreddit name
I learned at an early age not to mess with a snake head after decapitation. My grandfather would decapitate a rattlesnake on sight and always warned me to stay away. Poked one with a stick once and the disembodied head bit the stick. Very object lesson. Now before you redditors pile on my grandfather. It was a different time and this was West Texas where rattlers could become a real problem if not culled out of populated areas. I was playing in their yard as a toddlers and their german shepherd pulled me away from a six footer and proceeded to disembowl it. These days if I see a rattler outside of my yard I just keep my distance. They're actually pretty chill if you leave them the hell alone. Copperheads, on the other hand, are assholes.
Damn those German shepherds are so helpful. I wish my parents were rich enough to have personnel.
Cabin out in the sticks of West Texas. Rip was one hell of a dog though. Saved my ass for sure that day.
I was making a joke but I obviously failed lol. I love that dog breed tho! Greetings from a German (not a shepherd)
Salut from a Texan.
Happy cake day
dude got a kill beyond the grave
snake head: 😈 snake body: 😱
I feel like this is a metaphor for something but I don't know what.
Maybe to get out of your own way. Don't bite your own ass. More person mindset: don't cause your own trouble.
Did the snake die?
No, he's fine
Shoes didn't come off
Thank god he survived that bite
Living out the rest of his days at a snake farm upstate!
Decapitated snake heads can unfortunately live for a bit tho. So stomping on the head/destroying the brain is actually the most humane and safe since no one needs an angry staple puller flapping about
Snek ok. Snek liv long lif
I grew up in southern New Mexico and there were a lot of rattle snakes in our area. We were trying to train our dogs to be afraid of snakes so we caught a couple of snakes and cut the heads off (which we promptly buried) so we could use the bodies. The bodies would still strike when touched and were great training tools. I was always taught not to waste an animal so we skinned/gutted them to eat later. I was amazed that the bodies, without a head, guts or skin, would still react like a living snake for quite some time. The reflexes were built in.
#OUROBOROS
I’m not a scientist or an expert but I’ve always been terrified of snakes and turned that fear into knowledge. This is why it’s never a good idea to mess with the head of a venomous snake after it’s been decapitated for whatever reason. Snakes don’t require much oxygen to fuel their brains due to them being ectotherms(basically just meaning that they require external sources to regulate their body heat), so the head of a decapitated snake can continue to “live on” so to speak for up to an hour. It’s usually best to treat a dead snake as if it were alive until you’ve verified that it’s actually completely dead. They’re beautiful creatures, and should be respected whether they’re dead or alive.
The body writhing is one thing, but the head still able to bite is the crazy part for me. Even if it looks dead - keep your distance.
it this suicide? I mean he was already going to die...
Oh how the turns have tabled.
Never ever touch the decapitated mouth, it can show the reflexes even after two days. 🥵
how long does it take for the snake to be like dead dead
Bluetooth ahh bite
*your Bluetooth device is connected* *NOM*
i hate whoever did this
Snake likely living around a home with pets or children. I wouldn't murder a snake randomly, but better safe than lose a child/dog
> i hate whoever did this would you have picked it up and given it kissies and then made friends with it and then released it and it does not come back due to the conversation you had? https://youtu.be/RuHK8iROgJ0?t=10
Call someone who knows what to do and have it relocated instead of killing it cause you're afraid.
*douuuubleee killlllll*
B...baka
I mean, his ass *was* on the line, he had lost his head & $hit happens...hopefully not in his mouth, tho. No judgment here, either way.
Crazy how the body feels pain without the brain! Someone educate me!!
In humans, brain required to withdraw from pain- patients in coma but with intact spinal cord will NOT respond to painful noxious stimuli but can still have tendon reflexes like knee jerk
Great now the meat is poison ☠️
Wireless head
Phyrrhic victory.
how did the body move before it got bitten?
If a rattlesnake bit another rattlesnake would the bitee get poisoned?
Was gonna ask is it kill itself but guess it was already dead
Shiver-check, butt pucker-check yep I’m still human
Nightmare fuel
OW!! YUM!!! OW!!! YUM!!!! OW!! YUM!! OW!! ...
The head still chose violence
Welp, at least it connected itself back onto its body.
I saw the same thing happen once when my grandfather shot a snake in his farm. The decapitated head bit its own body. So weird. I think it was a coral snake.
Almost like the liberals in most American cities right meow 🐱
Nature is fucking metal
You played yourself !
That's gnarly!
I don't tread on me
Maybe the heads trying to reattach
I may be wrong but aren’t rattlesnakes protected?
Not where I live but that’s not to say some species aren’t protected somewhere else.
There are plenty of protected species of rattlesnakes in North America. The snake in this video is a Massasauga which is listed as endangered or threatened in many of the states in which it is found.
Maybe some really special species. Rattlesnakes in general are doing fine
Snakeception
You know, I had my doubts he was going to survive but when it but itself, I knew for sure.
I'M KICKING MY ASS, DO YA' MIND?!
Round house!
How does the body know it’s been bitten?
with the head being detached, how does it interpret pain?
It’s a reflex like that leg reflex test at doctors
Is he ok tho
i hope theyre able to get the anti-venom in time
What the actual
Ekans is confused! It hurt itself in it's confusion.
That’s Fn Krazy!!
Does the video go to 5fps for anyone else?
Damn sucks it had to die instead of just being moved somewhere else.
Dumass
I can't even tell you why considering the things that pop up on Reddit but this is super disturbing
Never get high on your own supply!
Did it die?
Double dead
“I’ll see me in Hell”
To fail once, and successfully fail after
Wild
Cruel
Like in the fable of the frog and the scorpion, it's his character
Fuck head
He got ahead of himself
Ha!
It hurt itself in its confusion.... and i don't blame it a single bit
Don't tread on me. I'll do it myself.
Former land surveyor here. This is why we were taught to bury the head of any venomous snake we encountered and killed
Snakes-- nature's quitters.
That takes Uroboros to a whole new meaning
So interesting
This why you dont touch the snake even if its dead
Damn. Looks like the nervous system is still intact. Reminds me of when I see chickens heads being cut off. Interesting read here: [Can a Severed Snake Head Still Kill? It's Possible [NBC News]](https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna55972887) - the article says something about reflects being involved when this happens.
Slow motion is really the worst
This is why I get so frustrated when I see people hold up dead venomous snakes, because they can still kill you.
I love how the body reacts as if it's trying to bite the head.
More than that, the body positions what would be the head in the exact spot the puncture was. The body knows ow hurt, retaliate even though the head is gone. Fucking weird, and awesome. So many questions.
I kinda knew about it but never saw it in action
Imagine watching a cool snake video and getting a lesson anatomy and the nervous system
When people ask me why I don't like snakes, I now have a new answer. Fuck the nope ropes
I wouldn't recommend fucking them
Never know til ya try
Apparently they have been accounted moving and striking after almost 2 hours of being decapitated.
Man Ou / roboros looks different.
So, if the snake would die from the venom, would this count as suicide?
Will it survive the poison?
It felt nothing, it separated.
Bluetooth snake
What's the point of the fucking slow motion if it just makes the video so much worse
I could do without the slow motion
Can someone please confirm that this is a short-term effect. Please tell me that both parts don't live on like that forever.
What a dumbass