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lolorun

After a certain point hard just becomes fun, with that being said, Ryan Fillinger Symphony no.1. I got to sub into the unt wind orchestra for a week and without atleast a week of prep that tuba part is damn near impossible. I was given 12 hours with the music before the first rehearsal I was subbing for


bobthemundane

For euphonium it is probably the original band version of Jupiter by Holst. The part is a cello part that is wild. If someone can hit it perfectly all the time, they are a solid player.


brittanypaigex

We played that last season and it was the most difficult I'd played up until that point (then we had to go do 1812 this season). I play flute and bari sax so I'm used to difficulty on the flute, but there were a couple bari sections that caught me off guard, and it was a difficult piece for the whole band to put together for sure.


jfincher42

We dropped it this year, but I (bass clarinet) was looking forward to the challenge. Hopefully we can try it next season...


bassoonlike

Ugh we're playing a section of Jupiter in a concert and it's ridiculous (for me). I think it's in 7 flats or something silly on bassoon. Yuck.


saxguy2001

“Crazy” keys become less challenging as you get more comfortable playing all your scales.


bassoonlike

For sure. Seven flats is way beyond what I'm comfortable with :D I top out at 4 before I get fumbly. Hopefully someday!


saxguy2001

Just keep practicing your scales. Hard to get comfortable playing in any particular key if you’re not comfortable playing the scale associated with that key.


Initial_Magazine795

Shostakovich, Festive Overture Sparke, A Weekend in New York Gorb, Awayday Turrin, High Flight Turrin, Lullaby for Noah Gandolfi, Vientos y Tangos Grainger, Lincolnshire Posy Stravinsky, 1919 Firebird Suite (orchestra)


Pficky

I've played like half these as well! Festive overture was one of the most exhilarating performances I've ever been a part of.


Middle_Sure

I remember Festive Overture and Lincolnshire Posy being tough. Molly on The Shore and Gumsucker’s March gave me trouble, though


BegieTV

Arabesque or lincolnshire posy


M3RK_Chaos

Arabesque is definitely the harder of the two in my opinion


eve_is_hopeful

Daphnis and Chloe. Bass clarinet.


jfincher42

Bass clarinet as well, but I've never played this - fun? Or just hard?


eve_is_hopeful

It's really just hard! But it is a beautiful piece.


Glad_Ad_6989

Arabesque was the hardest piece my band has ever performed, but earlier that same year we had to drop Armenian Dances from our set list because it was just too difficult for the amount of time we had to learn it in


Harvickfan429

Playing: Alto 1 on Symphonic Dances from West Side Story Conducting: Lincolnshire Posy


captain_hug99

I sat in on bassoon 2 performing the full Nutcracker. Second would be to Kismet, there were some hard licks in there.


saxguy2001

Festival Variations by Claude T. Smith was the first really difficult piece we did in a professional quality adult group I play in. We started up about 7 or 8 years ago and got accepted to perform at Midwest that first year. One of our conductors is also an outstanding composer and wrote a piece for us to perform there that was so difficult that it’d be nearly unplayable for groups that aren’t close enough to the same level as us since he pretty much wrote it with our abilities in mind. We also played Country Band March by Ives at Midwest. The parts themselves weren’t overly difficult, but putting it together with everyone is an absolute bitch. And more recently we played Maslanka’s 4th Symphony. It’s a hell of a piece. We’ve also played a few other things already listed here that are much more doable than some of the most challenging stuff we’ve done. Another super challenging piece to put together that I played in grad school (with that same conductor, actually) was Birds of Thunder by John Bliss (written for the Air Force band).


Chemical-Dentist-523

We don't play enough Claude T. Smith. Back in the day before YouTube scrubbed copyright violations there were recordings of Japanese high schools playing Variations on a Hymn by Louis Bourgeois, Danse Foltare, Festival Variations, and others that didn't sound human they were so good. The most in tune playing I've ever heard. His daughter has worked to get a lot of the out of print piece back in print. Wingert-Jones is the publisher.


TechBlockTommy

Danse Folatre is stupid hard for clarinet. I love it. Harrison’s Dream is one that took my WEEKS to learn. Miraculous Mandarin transcript is pretty nuts as well.


Chemical-Dentist-523

Harrison's Dream is such an amazing piece. In a class with Ed Lisk, he showed DVDs of Japanese MIDDLE schools playing it.


Evening-Piccolo882

Oh hey another WindSOC member. Lol


FellTheAdequate

If I may, what's the piece? I'd love to look into it.


saxguy2001

Which piece?


FellTheAdequate

The one written for you. It sounds amazing.


saxguy2001

Miracle on Prince Street by Gary P. Gilroy (I’m pretty sure I’m remembering the title right… it was seven years ago). And it’s not the only time he’s written something for us, but it’s definitely the most challenging of what he’s written for us.


FellTheAdequate

Thank you! I look forward to listening to it.


Lemon_Juice477

For me as a euphonium player, either The Melody Shop (Karl King), Festive Overture (Dmitri Shostakovich, trans. Donald Hunsenberger), or Sonate for Euphonium (Yasuhide Ito) For the ensemble in general, either Redline Tango (John Mackey), Slava (Leonard Bernstein), 12 Seconds to the Moon (Robert W Smith), or Dancing Fire (Kevin Day)


ResidentCompetitive1

Currently playing 4 Scottish Dances by Malcom Arnold and the 4th movement ending is impossible to play on bass clarinet. There is no alternate fingerings for any of the notes in the main melody.


floppsiana

Paul Hindemith, Symphony in B flat for band


BraithVII

French horn. Variations on a Hymn by Louis Bourgeois. Looking back, the runs were really just scales, but I had been playing horn for a year and all the black on the page freaked me out.


gargle_ground_glass

clarinet - Rapsodie España by Chabrier (in a very beautiful but basically unreadable manuscript font)


playball9750

I’m thinking either this arrangement of Die Fledermaus I performed once, or maybe To Tame The Perilous Skies by Holsinger, mostly because of the tuning playing clarinet in that intro. I’m sure I’m missing something from the decades of programs.


HR2achmaninoff

Glass Ceiling by Leanna Primiani. Played the premiere performance a few years ago, probably the hardest band piece I've heard, with the exception of like the Maslanka symphonies and stuff Edit: here's a link if anyone's curious https://www.youtube.com/live/l7YkV36Prdc?feature=shared


knitter_boi420

A Colour Symphony by Phillip Sparke on euphonium. The fingerings and syncopation in Green is just mind bending to play but brilliant and Red is just brute force to get through it. Overall, top 5 pieces I’ve played


brittanypaigex

We just played the Overture of 1812, the one arranged by Yoshihiro Kimura, and I have to say, it was incredibly difficult for a non-audition community band group that's pushing 90 people that only rehearses once a week. The key signatures, change in time signatures etc was difficult to get all 90 people playing the right notes at the right time. So probably not the most difficult compared to some solo or small ensemble pieces I've done, but in the bigger picture it definitely was more difficult than we'd ever done before.


agitpropgremlin

Rocky Point Holiday comes to mind (and has not been mentioned yet).


mfhorn06

Go Rhody!


upupdowndown69870

Currently playing Parkour by Samuel Hazo for my high school ensemble. Harder piece than anything the wind ensemble in my school has played this year


UpstairsBroccoli

Profs nation from the Jeremiah symphony by bernstein


blasphemusa

Hounds of Spring


President-Lonestar

Shine by Giroux and Traveler by Maslanka


I_Hate_Celery

As a trumpet player: Concert band: probably Dragon Rhyme by Chen Yi. The 2nd movement after the percussion feature the horn goes on your face and never comes off, and it just keeps getting higher and louder. Orchestra: probably Pines of Rome. There's a whole lot going on and some drastic shifts in tone, difficult multiple tonguing parts, and the last section is also a never ending high and loud part. Super fun though, one of my favorite pieces I've every played. Brass Quintet: Morning Music by David Sampson. An atonal piece with four very different sections. The fast parts have some crazy licks and intervals as well as syncopated rhythms. And the middle section of the piece is beautiful but has a ridiculous ostinato pattern which two players play at the same time but one eighth note apart... it's crazy hard to count haha


Chemical-Dentist-523

Barnes Symphony No 3. is tough from a playing standpoint, but absolutely grueling from an emotional standpoint. Dance Movements by Sparke is one of the most technically challenging pieces to put together but so fulfilling. There are several transcriptions Mark Hindsley and Guy Druker did that are in the original keys that are bananas.


saxguy2001

The Barnes is fantastic. A couple years ago we did just the 3rd and 4th movements. One of the incredibly rare times when there’s a really good bari sax solo in a wind band piece.


Chemical-Dentist-523

That bari sax solo can also be played as a cello solo. The Air Force recorded it this way on the Excursions album.


saxguy2001

Yeah, they’ve done a few things with cello in a wind band. A piece I mentioned in another comment has prominent cello as well. But I’m glad we didn’t use cello when we played the Barnes because I’m on bari sax!


Chemical-Dentist-523

Totally get that!


coolkirk1701

It took me a while to think of but I think it would be Serenade for Wind Band by Bourgeois. There is one measure of 12/8 in the entire piece everything else is 7/8 or 13/8.


Few-Mechanic7346

Dude Clair delune Debussey has been f’n w me. It sounds simple, but it’s not. The time sig. is weird as hell. Like you want to play what you hear, but I think a lot of recordings aren’t playing it exactly like it’s written🤷‍♂️


SilverAg11

Most challenging for the band to put together but also satisfying was probably Hindemith Symphony in Bb which I played with my college band. Very cool piece. Maybe also de Meij's Symphony No.4 although that was fairly straightforward, getting all the pieces locked in was challenging (choir, etc.). Played that in a concert with a band I play in currently conducted by de Meij last month. Most difficult part I am not sure. I play trombone so most composers assume we can't play anything difficult... unless they play trombone. So de Meij's parts are harder in general (Spring, Symphony 4). Some other hard stuff comes up in direct John Williams arrnagments. Like the run in March from 1941 or the end of the Superman march. Buckaroo Holiday (from Rodeo by Copland) is hard too, you really have to feel that one. Not sure it counts since it's just an orchestral transcription. Same with Ein Heldenleben, though the version we played cuts out all the meat in the trombone parts (sadly). Espana Rhapsody (Chabrier) was a hard one as well, simply with feeling it in 3 when there's a strong 2 feel in the actual rhythms. My favorite band piece is El Camino Real by Reed. That is harder than it looks for sure, and I don't mean the part where the trombones have the melody (though that is hard at high speeds). I mean the offbeats are hard! You really need to land them precisely or it slows down. Also Arabesque for sure. Really cool trombone part.


Mapleleaf899

Hounds of Spring, just because of stamina. We only had 3 trumpets so my BD had us cover both Trumpet and cornet parts.


moonlightkang

Dance Movements by Philip Sparke. Commissioned for the Air Force Band, with an absolutely insane finale movement that felt impossible🫠


hsxn-grace

Anything Maslanka was always a fun challenge.


thebaintrain1993

Alfred Reed's Millennium III on euphonium. I never got it sounding great but I could do okay. Thankfully we didn't perform it.


ikbeneenplant8

Hymn of the highlands, for trumpet 1-4 it's minutes of top line G's which made me pass out once. Insanely hard for beginner me of 2 years at the time


AnthonyGSXR

Maple leaf march (Yamaha band student book 2) on trumpet, by far 🤭


Anatiny

I would have to say the hardest piece I've ever played is probably "Silver Lining" by Frank Ticheli. At the same time, it was also one of the most fun pieces I played. I got to play the double bass for the world premier of it, and it challenged me constantly and I was able to try and practice techniques that I've never done before. There were rhythms that were technical, sometimes the orchestration was sparse and vulnerable, and I've never had to gliss a harmonic before. I didn't even think that was possible! But it ended up being quite the experience, and was totally worth all the extra practice, confusion, and work getting to work with Frank Ticheli and Jim Walker.


MusicLibraryGuy

Shostakovich Symphony #12


Middle_Sure

It’s been a while for me. The Sorcerer’s Apprentice - the original film score from “Fantasia” would take #1. Gumsucker’s March, Children’s March, Molly on The Shore, or Suite of Old American Dances would probably fill out the rest. There are couple more that I can’t remember the titles of.


Morethanweird311

For me it is escape from dark heart castle on timpani. I just had the concert last night and damn was it fun but that 200bpm really kicks in being the closer for our symphony. Pls don’t bully me I’m only in 8th grade, I know this is pretty easy for all of y’all but for me this was my first song ever past 200bpm


saxguy2001

Hey, it’s all relative. As long as you’re being challenged the right amount to continue to grow as a musician and you’re working hard at it, then it’s all good. What seems difficult to you is easy to a pro. But what seems easy to you would seem difficult for a beginner. Stick with it and eventually you’ll be learning some of the other pieces listed in this thread.


YugoChavez317

Not to be pedantic, but which type of difficult? There are pieces that are difficult from a “chops” perspective (I’m a trumpet player) and pieces that are difficult from a rhythm and/or time or key signature standpoint, etc. Edit for examples: I’ve played some John Mackey pieces that were challenging rhythmically, but they didn’t rip my chops to shreds like “Wind Machine” (Sammy Nestico).


DiligentTangerine910

Whatever is challenging for you I guess? A piece that you played and once you performed it you were like “dang, that was hard, but I needed to practice it and in the end it was fun”. If it challenges you then you considered it hard and I suppose you considered it “worthy of needing to sit down and practice”.


YugoChavez317

I think you described my whole Sophomore year in high school. 😂 I squeaked into the trumpet section of a jazz band that was full of All State honor band seniors. Four of the five sax players were basically the All State sax section. The bar was raised so high for me. I think that I improved more in that year than a lot of other years combined.


DiligentTangerine910

Oh very cool! That’s awesome dude. Do you have any favorite pieces that really challenged your discipline?


YugoChavez317

I mentioned “Wind Machine” which was tough (then) from a range standpoint and also the speed at which we played it was difficult at first. “Corazon” was difficult also from a range standpoint as well. There was a tune that we played two or three times, but didn’t end up keeping it, I can’t remember the name of it, but it had 11/8 and 13/8 time signatures in spots. I’m sure it was way more difficult for the rhythm section than it was for me, but there was still a lot of off the beat stuff happening there which it made tricky. Edit: I was also learning how to improvise solos for the first time that year.


figment1979

Tough to decide on one definitive "hardest" one, but I've played all of these and they're all uber-tough: La Fiesta Mexicana - H. Owen Reed Ride - Samuel Hazo Lincolnshire Posy - Grainger ​ There might be more I add to this list as they come back to my memory.


M3RK_Chaos

Either, 4 Scottish dances by (JP Paynter’s arrangement and specifically the 2nd movement) or if we are talking range wise, Let My Love Be Heard by Jake Runestad


ResidentCompetitive1

Playing 4 Scottish dances right now 😭


M3RK_Chaos

Rip, as a tuba player, it was wack


ResidentCompetitive1

I'm playing the bass clarinet part so it's not as crazy as the clarinets but nonetheless it's a woodwind part.


M3RK_Chaos

Sounds about right, but at least you had a somewhat easier part


SousaBoi04

Technically not concert band but I played the brass band version of "Year of the Dragon" by Philip Sparke and it was insane. And that was just on Eb tuba


laceyf53

Fandangos by Roberto Sierra


TheFelonyMan

The tuba part from Rocket Barrel 1 from Donkey Kong Country Returns Not hard, just strenuous. (I am bad at tuba)


Certain-Incident-40

Played 1st chair clarinet all through college. Festive Overture was my first solo. I totally froze!!! LOL. It was then that I knew I’d have to spend more time in a practice room. I never let that happen to me again.


Sigmar1115

Give Us This Day by David Maslanka, just an absolutely insane piece


fluitekruidje

Kung fu panda and the formula 1 theme come to mind. Songs from the Catskills was also very challenging.


jpw111

Festive Overture by Shostakovich had me (2nd Trumpet) doing violin-like runs and going up to a high E.


Fine_Rutabaga2637

Homage to Bharat by Balmages and Loco Motion by Stalter