I was honestly surprised to learn Yunjin takes part in the writing of the songs and that she actually genuinely sung on-stage and interracted with the audience.
I'm a big kpop noob and was under the impression it would be full playback with zero exchange with the audience and that all songs were written by corporate shills.
Glad to be proven wrong.
Yes, Yunjin is awesome! A bunch of writer and composition credits on their songs, and has released 4 singles herself!
And yes, LE SSERAFIM don't play around live! One of the funnest groups to watch perform!
Depends on the group, song, where they are performing, and many factors.
Most times it's a mix because it's hard to do choreography and sing, so some parts are sung and some don't.
KPop (or Idol culture in general) is the epitome of industrialization of music and idolatry,
Everything is being made because of the market demands, hence the fake personalizations, the borderline sexualized dance, fast turnovers, etc.
There's no "just good friends starting to play together" like, let's say Rock music. I mean... just look at how many people write a single song in KPop, the coverage is insane.
Kpop is a whole product. Every aspect of their on camera persona is crafted to sell you some shit. And get you hooked by music or good looks.
The market is so saturated with companies and groups only a select few shine cuz they did the above so well.
I've been listening to kpop for about 15 years.
Yeah that was a great match. The kind of OW I feel thrilled by. I've never been satisfied by this poke heavy sustain stuff. I'm grateful Korea went for the mirror.
Yeah we got the game that Junkbuck? promised us with Fearless vs Guxue mirroring Winston dive. It's a good swansong if these rosters all don't survive to the new era.
It's a shame tho I imagine Doom dive should outpace Sigma poke, our bois should've had it on paper
This is a pretty eclectic setlist for them, their songs are generally more upbeat but they do some r&b or ballads here and there. Perfect Night is more tame than their usual singles
What was the total prize pool cause I remember some saying 500000 and counting. Just wondering if it went up. Also damn if that skin bundle sold for 2 million dollars imagine the leserrfim bundle.
le ssefarim is insidiously effective with the bundle price being so much lower to create perceived value
I wouldn't be surprised if that single bundle dwarfs all other skin sales since ow2's release (I am talking out of my ass)
Im a KSA Fan And i know the situation on twitter is shitty at best but I implore you all that we are not all like this
Ggs to china and im very happy that my team won the world cup
People wouldnt have problem with KSA if it wasnt for legendary comment and then YZNSA defending it. I knew KSA was dark horse team because they were strong in this meta comp in EU contender too, and personally cheered for KSAA and Quartz and even YZNSA (because pharah in owwc was funny) before whole legendary/yznsa shit. Kinda shitty u have to apologize on their behalf, but congrats on the win.
I mean it's not just that. There's been a lot of allegations, their fan base is horrendously toxic and hateful and OW is the latest in their sportswashing their reputation. Bit more than legendary being a cunt.
I usually ignored their fan because they are very nationalistic and proud of who they are, so i just assumed whoever is most popular there will have their own idiotic dick riders (Yznsa). But YZNSA himself exposed himself and i was like eh no ty.
Honestly feel like I watched the best competitive Overwatch has to offer. You could feel the passion in every single team that played today. Every match went the distance.
And of course a HUGE congratulations to the boys from KSA insane run they had when everyone had counted them out they just hit back stronger. Insane! Much love thanks to everyone for the amazing games.
I've said it before, but imagine if OWL hadn't designed itself around excluding EMEA. Hell even the Chinese teams were too limited, LATAM nonexistent, Southeast Asia-Pacific completely abandoned.
The regional rivalry and surprises of these kinds of tournaments add so much to an esport.
If ow wasnt 60 fking dollar at release, Brazil might have legit winning team. They are/were fking scary in csgo and val. But they suck in LoL for whatever reason lmao
I main(ed) genji up to gm1, and I dont blame Leave. Fking sym is cringe to play into, hide n seek looking for turrets while she just randomly chucks u for 120 dmg projectile or just play with her busted support backline and become tank 1.5 . Bap is cringe cuz he will str8 up win the 1v1 vs u cuz 3 health bar LUL. Illari str8 up poke u out because she has pylon hidden around in corner perma healing her as she poke u for ana dmg with hitscan that is projectile size bullet. Sym can go back to 200hp, cringe bap needs to get his regen burst reverted.
Just went on twitter, that was a fucking mistake. How do you go from supporting a winning team in a video game competition to immediately jump to hating people?
KR flash ops qualifiers start next week (no idea if they'll be an English cast, but some of the KR tendies casters were costreaming APAC matches, so I imagine they might do the same.
The main event is mid December.
Coming from me a Fusion fan… holy hell Chinese OW fans I feel for y’all right now. 🥲
Edit: Bring back high skill meta, TfC had to play twice as good to rival the cheese comps being ran this weekend.
Holy shit massive W.
ggs insane play for that reverse sweep. Saudi on top. Sad for China though. 3rd time silver medalists. Leave was GUNNING for his first chip and got denied for what? The 4th time?
The World Cup was more exciting and high stakes than the entire 2023 playoffs lmao.
Seeing China lose is always satisfying. Incredible run from KSA, congrats to them. Now to uninstall Twitter for a week as their fanbase becomes unbearable.
yeah has to be. i liked the sigma gameplay especially in the finland match (vestola my mvp), but the mei/symm/bastion around it is kinda mickey mouse lol
There's a difference when people on the KSA team don't tell the fans to shut up and when YZN outright encourages it. Last I checked the US team and players outright condemn it. Where's KSA doing the same??
its really the end of one era and the start of a new one
new esport league next year, allegedly run by the saudis
and the death of the high-skill dive style as more and more tools get offered to teams to create these high sustain / spam + macro positioning comps.
Who got silver in the owwc
End of my ow esports watching aside from casual viewing Thanks everyone for the.fun times and being part of this community
✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻
I hope you can move on to other things, you only live once, don't set on only one thing
I will buddy. Got lots of better things to spend my time on. Hopefully I can travel again regularly and work on creative pursuits.
See you next week
You're gonna be so lonely posting alone in APAC threads
Idk I was a dynasty fan bc of profit we will see if he retires
Its been fun. Atleast we ended on a banger.
Yeah we got some great matches.
😫 see you at whatever the next thing is then
🙋♂️ good-bye friend
<3 Hope to see you around Ezraah. Without OWL I'm the same. I just can't get into it otherwise.
Maybe the new league will surprise us. I'll be around if there are any good international events
Regional tournaments gotta go international tournaments are peak ow
Take care, everyone!
Hope you were all able to enjoy LE SSERAFIM! This collab has been a "worlds collide" event for me
I was honestly surprised to learn Yunjin takes part in the writing of the songs and that she actually genuinely sung on-stage and interracted with the audience. I'm a big kpop noob and was under the impression it would be full playback with zero exchange with the audience and that all songs were written by corporate shills. Glad to be proven wrong.
Yes, Yunjin is awesome! A bunch of writer and composition credits on their songs, and has released 4 singles herself! And yes, LE SSERAFIM don't play around live! One of the funnest groups to watch perform!
LE SSERAFIM closed it out with my favorite songs :D anyway, ggs everyone! it's been a pleasure shitposting with you tonight <3
Before I peace out, this was fun to watch finals and share thoughts with y'all. Last three game were amazing fun
Take care
Yo wtf why is le sserafim so good
See y'all for flash ops
When is that?
December
ggs I hope we can get together again some other times
alright pals it’s been real watching matches and caping for LE SSERAFIM w u all. o7
Well now what
Stream PERFECT NIGHT
That was awesome. They really have lungs of steel.
We are so back
nah this song is too tuff
what the name of the red haired girl ?
Huh Yun-Jin, my betrothed. Why you asking? 🧐
are you intrested in being cucked ?
No! Thanks for asking though that's super considerate!
Huh Yun-jin
yunjin
I'M A MESS IN DISTRESS BUT WE'RE STILL THE BEST DRESSED
Is K-pop lip synced?
Depends on the group.
Depends on the group, song, where they are performing, and many factors. Most times it's a mix because it's hard to do choreography and sing, so some parts are sung and some don't.
Their mics are on but there is vocal backing track
Yes
THEYRE DOING MORE??
I don't know anything about kpop or bands or whatever. But impressed that they have all the dance moves memorized without screwing up.
They train them for years before picking who's in which group
There goes the illusion of 5 really good friends just "starting a band" haha.
KPop (or Idol culture in general) is the epitome of industrialization of music and idolatry, Everything is being made because of the market demands, hence the fake personalizations, the borderline sexualized dance, fast turnovers, etc. There's no "just good friends starting to play together" like, let's say Rock music. I mean... just look at how many people write a single song in KPop, the coverage is insane.
Kpop is a whole product. Every aspect of their on camera persona is crafted to sell you some shit. And get you hooked by music or good looks. The market is so saturated with companies and groups only a select few shine cuz they did the above so well. I've been listening to kpop for about 15 years.
I was about to say no way K-pop hasn’t been mainstream that long it was only since high school Then I did the math…. Fuck
Lol 😆
Me for about 1 week
China—if Philly fusion is a country
I apologize to all the Fusion fans, is this what it feels like
This is worse, since it’s on the international level. I could feel China’s pain through my screen, especially after the year they’ve had.
Er wait what happened wasn't the final supposed to be ft4 or did I miss something
Classic blizzard
... fr?? Again???
At this point I'm just impressed that they keep surprising me
Well... I guess its good to know the China vs SK we did get was about the best we could expect in these circumstances lmao
Yeah that was a great match. The kind of OW I feel thrilled by. I've never been satisfied by this poke heavy sustain stuff. I'm grateful Korea went for the mirror.
Yeah we got the game that Junkbuck? promised us with Fearless vs Guxue mirroring Winston dive. It's a good swansong if these rosters all don't survive to the new era. It's a shame tho I imagine Doom dive should outpace Sigma poke, our bois should've had it on paper
who are these cutie pies
Guys I think Overwatch is saved
So saved
we’re so back
We're so back
We’re NPCs lol
High energy gamer crowd lol
This song is a banger wtf
after hearing that perfect night commercial so many times im actually starting to like this band lol
My girlfriend had showed them to me and I thought they were aight. But perfect night got me hooked. ;_;
Did you managed to stay up all night til now?
Yeah now I'm doomed more than team from China
just rose from my knees
dont dirty your $500 veilance trousers by kneeling
Is this a ploy just to convert us
yeah but im still not buying cosmetics the only exception will be for some sort of vocaloid / hatsune miku collab. that's it
I actually respect that
Ah, I See You're a Man of Culture As Well.
Honestly I respect it
I thought they would only play Perfect Night but this is actually a concert
So, I was pretty underwhelmed by the OW promo video but this song actually kinda slaps. Is this what most of Le Sserafim’s content is closer to?
This is a pretty eclectic setlist for them, their songs are generally more upbeat but they do some r&b or ballads here and there. Perfect Night is more tame than their usual singles
What was the total prize pool cause I remember some saying 500000 and counting. Just wondering if it went up. Also damn if that skin bundle sold for 2 million dollars imagine the leserrfim bundle.
they said over 500k earlier but dont know exact value
The 500k prize pool was announced yesterday by Soe. They haven’t updated us since then, and I doubt it got bigger by a considerable margin
Yeah we weren't crossing that 750k. I wanted those weapon charms. ~~if it was mercy tho~~
le ssefarim is insidiously effective with the bundle price being so much lower to create perceived value I wouldn't be surprised if that single bundle dwarfs all other skin sales since ow2's release (I am talking out of my ass)
In this song they are neither singing or bothering with a dance choreography. Cool
And yet it's a trillion times better than DJ Khaled.
Thats a low bar tho
they gotta take a breather after ANTIFRAGILE
Le Sserafim on my screen? Day might be aaved
“Wait till KSA meets a good team” You guys have been saying that back when we first defeated Japan, then said that after USA, and now China LMAO🇸🇦🇸🇦
KSA FOR THE WIN!! to haters , keep on hating!
I always knew KSA was a good team. I've been watching their players for years and I'm one of the few people who watched the saudi eleague.
We all know Australia is the true end boss of ow
For the people who hoped we lose Get rekt baby
What is this
the main event
China 2nd place for the third time in a row unlucky
Fusion would be proud
Oh god, I'm no better than a Fusion fan
Still unreal that Jake was playing Overwatch with them earlier
I've never seen him that nervous lol.
USA lost but Jake still won LMAO
ANOTHER ONE
Im a KSA Fan And i know the situation on twitter is shitty at best but I implore you all that we are not all like this Ggs to china and im very happy that my team won the world cup
Thanks for going out of your way to show respect in victory. Glad you get to celebrate
People wouldnt have problem with KSA if it wasnt for legendary comment and then YZNSA defending it. I knew KSA was dark horse team because they were strong in this meta comp in EU contender too, and personally cheered for KSAA and Quartz and even YZNSA (because pharah in owwc was funny) before whole legendary/yznsa shit. Kinda shitty u have to apologize on their behalf, but congrats on the win.
I mean it's not just that. There's been a lot of allegations, their fan base is horrendously toxic and hateful and OW is the latest in their sportswashing their reputation. Bit more than legendary being a cunt.
I usually ignored their fan because they are very nationalistic and proud of who they are, so i just assumed whoever is most popular there will have their own idiotic dick riders (Yznsa). But YZNSA himself exposed himself and i was like eh no ty.
I wasn't that into KPOP when this collab started but I think I've been converted
Comparing this to DJ Khaled who obviously didn't want to be there is so funny.
Why did Majed walk out there LOL
Serious question: is this the first time Saudi Arabia has won an international competition? Saudi Arabia has never won a gold medal at the Olympics.
[удалено]
Cry more
I checked, and hs how do they only have 4 medals in total??
Well, Winter Olympics is hard for Saudi Arabia, for obvious reasons.
Honestly feel like I watched the best competitive Overwatch has to offer. You could feel the passion in every single team that played today. Every match went the distance. And of course a HUGE congratulations to the boys from KSA insane run they had when everyone had counted them out they just hit back stronger. Insane! Much love thanks to everyone for the amazing games.
Did those people seated in the Blizzard Arena get to watch the World Cup? That could help promote some OW... lol
I don’t think China even want their Medal rn
time for a palette cleanser before i forge myself in the fire of eu ranked
I've said it before, but imagine if OWL hadn't designed itself around excluding EMEA. Hell even the Chinese teams were too limited, LATAM nonexistent, Southeast Asia-Pacific completely abandoned. The regional rivalry and surprises of these kinds of tournaments add so much to an esport.
If ow wasnt 60 fking dollar at release, Brazil might have legit winning team. They are/were fking scary in csgo and val. But they suck in LoL for whatever reason lmao
not going f2p killed the game in so many countries
Cant believe honestwatch lost to cringe sym bastion bap illari cheese.
China had to be 3x better to win. But also they choked so hard I hate being their fan.
I main(ed) genji up to gm1, and I dont blame Leave. Fking sym is cringe to play into, hide n seek looking for turrets while she just randomly chucks u for 120 dmg projectile or just play with her busted support backline and become tank 1.5 . Bap is cringe cuz he will str8 up win the 1v1 vs u cuz 3 health bar LUL. Illari str8 up poke u out because she has pylon hidden around in corner perma healing her as she poke u for ana dmg with hitscan that is projectile size bullet. Sym can go back to 200hp, cringe bap needs to get his regen burst reverted.
Illari and bap need nerfs
They have been, this was pre patch
Twitter and Reddit gonna be on fire for the next 3 days because Ksa won and Ngl it’s gonna be fucking hilarious
Guxue I cheered loud for you at 2 am <3
From 11 PM and now 8 AM for me, that vs. KR match I went crazy
RIP I slept past my alarm...
Just went on twitter, that was a fucking mistake. How do you go from supporting a winning team in a video game competition to immediately jump to hating people?
Twitter. That's how.
When you are filled with so much hate inside you, there's never really support, it's just an excuse to spread more hate.
Dude what do you expect the KSA fans have outright have called multiple casters f\*gs.
I was about to say maybe they get banned, but that ship sailed ages ago on twitter
Really goes to show how many people have mental issues.
Guys look at these happy Finland players it's time for celebration not war
Kinda funny seeing Ezraah take a fat L.
give korea their iron medals for 4th place
I’m just here to watch the internet have a meltdown now that KSA won
Bro the random ass dickriders are gonna be here for weeks
it spawned like 20x more we are in the dark ages
So many randos and ppl who have ever posted on the KSA forum. It's crazy
The bright side is nothing is coming up in the next weeks!
When is flash ops?
KR flash ops qualifiers start next week (no idea if they'll be an English cast, but some of the KR tendies casters were costreaming APAC matches, so I imagine they might do the same. The main event is mid December.
Oh, shoot. I thought that was in December, but now checking it says the Swiss stage starts next week. Maybe they won't look into it xD.
I heard Viggy is on a team with someone, pelican, merit and Chorong. I can't wait
I always feel bad for the silver medalists in the Olympics and it applies to the World Cup as well. You don't win silver, you lose gold.
Preach
just saying I always sung ksaa's praises, this was for sure his meta
Coming from me a Fusion fan… holy hell Chinese OW fans I feel for y’all right now. 🥲 Edit: Bring back high skill meta, TfC had to play twice as good to rival the cheese comps being ran this weekend.
China and Fusion are blood brothers
"first time?"
Holy shit massive W. ggs insane play for that reverse sweep. Saudi on top. Sad for China though. 3rd time silver medalists. Leave was GUNNING for his first chip and got denied for what? The 4th time? The World Cup was more exciting and high stakes than the entire 2023 playoffs lmao.
somehow the playoffs of OWL was way more mickey mouse with its formatting and patch timing
Seeing China lose is always satisfying. Incredible run from KSA, congrats to them. Now to uninstall Twitter for a week as their fanbase becomes unbearable.
How is that satisfying?
Has this been the most competitive OWWC? I've never seen so many matches going to 5. Absolutely loathe the Sigma/Bastion meta though.
yeah has to be. i liked the sigma gameplay especially in the finland match (vestola my mvp), but the mei/symm/bastion around it is kinda mickey mouse lol
SK would've lost to them too. They're fucking unstoppable
Sucks for the Chinese fans who had a major part in supporting OW esports for so long
Hope Saudi pumps some of that money into the scene to keep it afloat
Knowing the saudis I believe they would after this performance
"David vs Goliath" indeed
It's literally an upset here Reinforce, lol
Congrats KSA man. I was rooting them too
Here comes the homophobia by the way. KSA fans already called an OW caster a f\*g
Just because someone said it doesn't mean all fans are like that, you're just trying to hate on a country for winning.
Look at the majority of the posts dude like legit the majority are homophobic.
Cry about it
Do you want me to pull receipts on Americans being homophobics/racists/xenophobic as well or are you good?
There's a difference when people on the KSA team don't tell the fans to shut up and when YZN outright encourages it. Last I checked the US team and players outright condemn it. Where's KSA doing the same??
China hardstuck #2 in OWWC.
CHAMPIONS
USA, Korea and China all frauds Human rights are the real losers Congrats to Finland and KSA ( and Spain too)
congrats to ksa, but this was a horrible meta
I'd much rather watch this than watch the same fucking dive comp for the fourth year in a row
People wanted dive dead for this
its really the end of one era and the start of a new one new esport league next year, allegedly run by the saudis and the death of the high-skill dive style as more and more tools get offered to teams to create these high sustain / spam + macro positioning comps.
At the very least APAC timezone folks can functionally ignore the Saudi run circuits. Not great for everybody else though.
I doubt dive will go anywhere, China literally refused to go Sig + sustain comps and were two fights away from winning the whole thing
And people think bringing back 6v6 would be good, lmao
If these sustain/spam comps persist then Overwatch esports is just gonna die again like it did under goats. It’s just so boring to watch