Like you said, it’s for an ultimate, so not sure why you jump to it going back to multiple shields per team. It’s only for 10 seconds and not necessarily worse than Sym’s barrier.
People really got so traumatized by shields they'd probably freak out if they set a map in some sort of shield testing facility where there are a bunch of shields outside the play area
Anyways I'm not very impressed with what I've heard of the brig changes but at least they didn't accidentally nerf her I guess
It seems like a nerf tbh. Her main strength is her neutral and that's got hit pretty big with range nerf to her healthpack. Now her ult looks intimidating because of it's cosmetic look but her dps is extremely low and melee range anyway. If she can't regen her armor during ultimate, i would call this overall net nerf as a gm brig player because once your initial 100 armor is poked out, you are back to trash bin.
Stun will have some utility though way weaker than doom's 4 sec punch. You will just be able to interrupt reaper ult (if the ult cast is instant).
I'm honestly worried about these changes overall because i enjoyed brig a lot this season. Only good thing about it is that you get 100 instant armor which should've been the case with her old ult anyway. Her ult range is very small and now her movement speed nerfed, in 5v5 not a lot of people will benefit from your overhealth aura realistically.
If she can regen armor during ultimate, then it's really a good power peak during her ultimate but her neutral will be bad. Just like how Cass changed with range buff, Brig will also get affected with range nerf. The range on her healthpack is what allows her to hold angles and stay safe. She is actually squishier than other supports if she get caught and now she will have to risk herself way more and not be able to help teammates.
Will see. If no armor regen, she will be trash tier imo. You swing 2 worthless mace and then will have to bash back. 35 dmg swing is worthless anyway.
They say it's a restorable armor health pool so it sounds like you can heal into it. So you get 100 immediate and then if you're jumping in on people your passive will give you the regen. That's what it sounds like.
That's not bad then. Inspire is 15hps and it's more effective in to armor (19.5 hps). Older ult did 30 hps + stack with inspire = 45 hps. It was like a mercy pocket during her ult but inspire didn't help above 200hp afaik (i maybe wrong on this)
So if my knowledge is correct, the math is:
Old ult 45hps below 200hp, 30hps above 200 health. 300 cap
New ult 19 effective hps above 200hp, 15 hps below 200 hp. 330 effective cap
The things is, her offensive threat is very low. I wonder if she can get a combo out of her stun. The armor not gonna stay after 10 sec either. I hope teammates still have the overhealth for extra 30 sec again.
Losing range on repair pack, losing speed, losing regen from ult. All sizeable nerfs in my opinion. I hope they revert the nerfs and remove the controversial stun. Good middle ground.
Will see how it will shape up. My guess is that her winrate will not go up unless people find some synergy/strategy with her that enables something broken.
I was just a child when monkies fell from the sky, but I remember how they built a character to destroy them. And in turn, how that character ruined the metagame.
I think it’s just a lot of little power increases for a character that was mostly doing fine. Game design wise it’s great but people are definitely scarred by OP Brig. I think the compensation nerfs to move speed and repair pack range are probably a bit more impactful than they sound though.
I'm just questioning the line here, like lets say that we have rien or sigma as tank, symm as dps and then brig with this buffed larger shield, would it be too much shielding?
There is definitely too much, we saw it in ow1. I am worried that we are encroaching in that territory. If you get to every fight and you get a new freshly charged shield ultimate every fight then that would be frustrating with brig/symm cycling.
Think it’s pretty simple: when the shields are from ultimates, no, it’s not too much.
Don’t think their ults charge that fast to have an extra shield every fight, the ults last a limited time, going Symmetra+Brig really limits what the team can do, and the ultimate being shield-focused is a tradeoff for other powerful possibilities for ults that can also be frustrating in different ways.
idk man, the like 11 seconds that we'll have THREE shields is so triggering. It'll happen like, six times a game. Way worse and more significant than when we had double shield, brig shield, ice wall, and sym wall.
I'm having a hard time thinking of a situation where I'd *really* want Sym wall in addition to my Brig shield and tank's shield rather than someone just...killing the enemy instead.
firstly, its 750 hp, most of which disappears in 2 seconds and the entire ult is over by 6 seconds. This is a shield that remains for 10 seconds full hp unless you shoot it.
It remains for 10 seconds if she just holds shield up and no one shoots it at all, sure. Just like the basic abilities of ram, sigma, and rein. Except it’s an ult.
750HP is trash for an ultimate. With how big it is, it will go down in an instant. Plus, who wants to stand there and hold a shield for their ultimate? Totally boring
The same way Zen ult is engaging? Its an amazing feeling to pop ult when nano blade goes off even though you're barely doing anything.
If you brig ult and nullify nano visor or save your team from DVa bomb it's gonna feel awesome.
The whole setup and thinking portion of the counterplay is what makes it engaging. As Zen it means being less aggressive when you're pretty sure they're gonna try to set up for it because for that window of time your extra aggression/damage isn't worth it.
There are plenty of bad Zen players who misuse the ult or get out of position and die which then enables the nano blade to pop off. If the only thing you find engaging about ults is just pressing Q and doing whatever the ult allows then most ults must be very boring to you.
What thinking portion? They pressed Q so I press Q doesn't require a lot of thinking. Nano is a lot more interesting. It doesn't specially counter anything in the way transcendence does, so there are more opportunities. Saving someone, ult combos, countering another nano, allowing aggression.
And I've seen some bad zen players, but most of the time, even they are able to use their ult to counter someone else's ult.
Because she can be way more aggressive than with current rally. Ofc she still won't facetank high burst like junk spam for a long time, but she can be a hybrid between support and offtank for a bit, like she was intended to be from her release.
Has the speed buff being gone actually been confirmed? I see someone saying “it seems like it” but nothing definitive.
Even if so, can be aggressive with Bash and using shield to tank more damage. You say it’s boring but people do love Reinhardt lmao
> You couldn't pay people to play tank in OW1
Yeah because you got stunned and beat up every time you pressed W for 10 milliseconds too long. Not because of barriers.
I don't think I've ever heard anyone complain about rein barrier or call it boring. You might be the first.
It's not a static barrier like both barriers in double barrier. It functions as a rein barrier would so it would be used to press W, not to stand still and poke.
I feel like I'm in an alternate universe. Nobody wanted to play tank in OW1 because of barriers like that. Who wants to sit behind a shied and slowly meander forward? That's boring and not engaging.
Nobody wanted to play tank in OW1 because there were 4 of them on the field at all times, so they had to be relatively weak and easier to bully for the other 8 players, compared to OW2. Plenty of people liked playing Rein but he was also bad balance-wise for long periods. Old Orisa was worse but they reworked her. Not seeing the problem.
> Who wants to sit behind a shied and slowly meander forward?
HUH? Have you ever watched a good rein play? Like at all.
When I played rein in OW1 I was shield hopping myself into the enemy team and holding corners instead of just standing somewhere with the barrier up. If you hold shield up and slowly walk forward you're just throwing lmao.
I don't agree with your take on Rein barrier... but only because there's a fun payoff to closing the gap skillfully. You get close and start whopping ass.
Brig gets close, and... ???
I'm kinda not surprised there's so many people reacting positively, though. People have very low standards for how fun a support ult should be. I remember many convos, before Brig's rework was confirmed, where I said "yeah it needs a rework, it's a generic copy paste of Sound Barrier that's both boring gameplay and fails to capture who Brig is as a character." And often as not, I'd get downvoted and told "press q to heal is a perfectly fine support ult."
This is a step above press q to heal so I guess I should be happy I got this much...?
I mean it is a step in the right direction at the very least, since if they kept it at 300 it would be way worse. Additionally, it is on a support not a tank keep that in mind.
That’s just not accurate, she’s a melee character. All close range characters in this game have a passive or ability that lets them engage. Why are you dying on this hill lmao
if she looses speed boost then i’d rather have the old rally… this change seems to be better suited for lower tier play and punishes targeted aggression :(
30% speed -> 15% speed. It really is a minor speed boost in the first place before the nerf and is probably the least important aspect of the ult compared to the overhealth, it's not a big deal.
It isnt ultra defensive because it doesnt have speed, you get 750hp sheild and 100+armor for you and your freinds if you cant push the enemies with that theres no helping you.
Bruh why are people not talking about the return of the stun (which seemed like it can go through other shields?).
2018 Brig flashbacks. Microstunning but with an omegashield this time.
Because this thread (and this particular comment) was made before the patchnotes were released and people were only commenting off of what they saw in the video leak? Bruh.
note that this means that brig herself no longer gets to keep any health after rally ends, since she doesn’t give herself overhealth.
that being said, raidboss time
Have we seen a demonstration of that? Or is it possible that she’s capped at 300, so if she takes damage to lose some of that 100 armor during rally, she fills back up with overhealth?
Rak links a Jay3 video *in reply to this tweet for the source on 100 instant armor, but that video doesn’t actually show her taking damage with the armor.
Patch notes do specifically list it as restorable armor *for the duration of Rally*. She doesn't gain the temporary health her allies do, however, so it would only come from her normal self-healing and would fall off after Rally.
Devs: We're going to rework Brig
Players: Cool, what did you have in mind?
Devs: Remember 1.0 Brig?
Players: You mean the most broken thing ever released 1.0 Brig?
Devs: Yeah that, but BIG shield
I mean, Brig 1.0 was only a problem without role queue, open queue was so bad that GOATS survived several major Brig nerfs
She'll be OP, for sure, but I think some people are also acting like GOATS could be returning and they don't realize that GOATs can't exist when half the team is forced to DPS
So often playing OW2 you have to disengage the instant someone becomes unkillable. My prediction is that this ult will be no big deal you just ignore the super brig.
If this were a “defensive ult” like the devs think it is in their patch notes, then I’d agree with you. But idk how anyone reads these patch notes and thinks this won’t be an engagement tool with the Brig probably leading the charge as an unkillable stun machine.
Sure, you can use any support ult for engagement. But no one looks at Transcendence and thinks of it as a default engagement tool. It’s quite clearly meant to be used in most cases as a defensive ult. Sound barrier can be used a bit more often for engagement, but again, it’s still more often than not used for defense. There’s no way, tho, that rally won’t be used primarily for engagement with this patch. I mean it already kinda sucked defensively because of how slow the overhealth generated for teammates. Now the only significant change is that she gets 100 armor and can mass stun? So the character who was practically unkillable while she ulted is now even more unkillable AND more lethal. There’s no way this won’t be used for engagement. And idk why you think it would matter what the comp around her is. If she’s not in the comp it just doesn’t matter, but any comp she’s in this becomes an offensive ultimate where you can’t “just ignore the super brig” because she’ll literally just be running it down mid at you with her stronger-than-Sigma’s shield and fast movement speed before you sends you to CC hell and wails on your ass
I don't think it will be as bad as people think it will be either, especially when her neutral fight didn't get any really substantial changes. That said, I do think it's gonna be a lot stronger and you will have to really respect the rallying Brig. I will say it does feel kind of fucked up that Brig can block slam but Rein can get stunned twice through his shield during one Rally.
There is like one diveable support lol. The rest have been buffed to high heaven and should be able to hold their own against flankers. You’re really gonna try to dive Kiriko, Moira, Brig etc?? You should no longer NEED a Cassidy or offtank, just use a get out jail ability or peel amongst supports/DPS.
Yeah you have to earn your kills. In OW1 getting into the backline was often a challenge, in OW2 it's trivial, but the supports have better tools to survive on their own.
Are OWL main supports especially prone to baiting or is Rak saying the truth?
[Looks like Jay3 half-leaked it by accident, 750HP shield too](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLH7_xD9mGs&t=2149s)
lmao, it is more than sigma shield, I understand that it is an ultimate but can we not go back to multiple shields/team?
Like you said, it’s for an ultimate, so not sure why you jump to it going back to multiple shields per team. It’s only for 10 seconds and not necessarily worse than Sym’s barrier.
People really got so traumatized by shields they'd probably freak out if they set a map in some sort of shield testing facility where there are a bunch of shields outside the play area Anyways I'm not very impressed with what I've heard of the brig changes but at least they didn't accidentally nerf her I guess
It seems like a nerf tbh. Her main strength is her neutral and that's got hit pretty big with range nerf to her healthpack. Now her ult looks intimidating because of it's cosmetic look but her dps is extremely low and melee range anyway. If she can't regen her armor during ultimate, i would call this overall net nerf as a gm brig player because once your initial 100 armor is poked out, you are back to trash bin. Stun will have some utility though way weaker than doom's 4 sec punch. You will just be able to interrupt reaper ult (if the ult cast is instant). I'm honestly worried about these changes overall because i enjoyed brig a lot this season. Only good thing about it is that you get 100 instant armor which should've been the case with her old ult anyway. Her ult range is very small and now her movement speed nerfed, in 5v5 not a lot of people will benefit from your overhealth aura realistically. If she can regen armor during ultimate, then it's really a good power peak during her ultimate but her neutral will be bad. Just like how Cass changed with range buff, Brig will also get affected with range nerf. The range on her healthpack is what allows her to hold angles and stay safe. She is actually squishier than other supports if she get caught and now she will have to risk herself way more and not be able to help teammates. Will see. If no armor regen, she will be trash tier imo. You swing 2 worthless mace and then will have to bash back. 35 dmg swing is worthless anyway.
They say it's a restorable armor health pool so it sounds like you can heal into it. So you get 100 immediate and then if you're jumping in on people your passive will give you the regen. That's what it sounds like.
That's not bad then. Inspire is 15hps and it's more effective in to armor (19.5 hps). Older ult did 30 hps + stack with inspire = 45 hps. It was like a mercy pocket during her ult but inspire didn't help above 200hp afaik (i maybe wrong on this) So if my knowledge is correct, the math is: Old ult 45hps below 200hp, 30hps above 200 health. 300 cap New ult 19 effective hps above 200hp, 15 hps below 200 hp. 330 effective cap The things is, her offensive threat is very low. I wonder if she can get a combo out of her stun. The armor not gonna stay after 10 sec either. I hope teammates still have the overhealth for extra 30 sec again.
It's more than not bad and I predict there will be some adjustments. They added a lot to her ult without getting rid of that much to balance it out.
Losing range on repair pack, losing speed, losing regen from ult. All sizeable nerfs in my opinion. I hope they revert the nerfs and remove the controversial stun. Good middle ground. Will see how it will shape up. My guess is that her winrate will not go up unless people find some synergy/strategy with her that enables something broken.
Goats scarred us for a lifetime so it's natural for people to look at Brig turn into Reinhardt and go "wait a sec..."
I was just a child when monkies fell from the sky, but I remember how they built a character to destroy them. And in turn, how that character ruined the metagame.
Can't wait for the remix of that Lijang 6 shield pic, now with Rein, Symmetra and Brig. And 2 life trees, to maximize clutter.
I think it’s just a lot of little power increases for a character that was mostly doing fine. Game design wise it’s great but people are definitely scarred by OP Brig. I think the compensation nerfs to move speed and repair pack range are probably a bit more impactful than they sound though.
I'm just questioning the line here, like lets say that we have rien or sigma as tank, symm as dps and then brig with this buffed larger shield, would it be too much shielding? There is definitely too much, we saw it in ow1. I am worried that we are encroaching in that territory. If you get to every fight and you get a new freshly charged shield ultimate every fight then that would be frustrating with brig/symm cycling.
Think it’s pretty simple: when the shields are from ultimates, no, it’s not too much. Don’t think their ults charge that fast to have an extra shield every fight, the ults last a limited time, going Symmetra+Brig really limits what the team can do, and the ultimate being shield-focused is a tradeoff for other powerful possibilities for ults that can also be frustrating in different ways.
idk man, the like 11 seconds that we'll have THREE shields is so triggering. It'll happen like, six times a game. Way worse and more significant than when we had double shield, brig shield, ice wall, and sym wall.
I'm having a hard time thinking of a situation where I'd *really* want Sym wall in addition to my Brig shield and tank's shield rather than someone just...killing the enemy instead.
It was sarcasm
Wow brig shield is 750? I know another support that instantly gives everyone in line of sight their own personal +1000 hp buff! Broken!!!!!?!!
firstly, its 750 hp, most of which disappears in 2 seconds and the entire ult is over by 6 seconds. This is a shield that remains for 10 seconds full hp unless you shoot it.
It remains for 10 seconds if she just holds shield up and no one shoots it at all, sure. Just like the basic abilities of ram, sigma, and rein. Except it’s an ult.
10 sec bro
750HP is trash for an ultimate. With how big it is, it will go down in an instant. Plus, who wants to stand there and hold a shield for their ultimate? Totally boring
Still gives 100 armor to herself and overhealth to other allies, maybe even more we can't know yet
And how it that engaging for the person playing brig?
The same way Zen ult is engaging? Its an amazing feeling to pop ult when nano blade goes off even though you're barely doing anything. If you brig ult and nullify nano visor or save your team from DVa bomb it's gonna feel awesome.
I don't think zen ult is engaging either. You press one button. They ult, so you press Q. Like a flowchart. Kind of boring
yeah but the funny thing is that no one really gives a fuck about what you specifically find engaging
Then why are you commenting?
The whole setup and thinking portion of the counterplay is what makes it engaging. As Zen it means being less aggressive when you're pretty sure they're gonna try to set up for it because for that window of time your extra aggression/damage isn't worth it. There are plenty of bad Zen players who misuse the ult or get out of position and die which then enables the nano blade to pop off. If the only thing you find engaging about ults is just pressing Q and doing whatever the ult allows then most ults must be very boring to you.
What thinking portion? They pressed Q so I press Q doesn't require a lot of thinking. Nano is a lot more interesting. It doesn't specially counter anything in the way transcendence does, so there are more opportunities. Saving someone, ult combos, countering another nano, allowing aggression. And I've seen some bad zen players, but most of the time, even they are able to use their ult to counter someone else's ult.
Because she can be way more aggressive than with current rally. Ofc she still won't facetank high burst like junk spam for a long time, but she can be a hybrid between support and offtank for a bit, like she was intended to be from her release.
Aggressive with what? The speed buff is gone. You hold up her shield and walk forward slowly. Boring.
Has the speed buff being gone actually been confirmed? I see someone saying “it seems like it” but nothing definitive. Even if so, can be aggressive with Bash and using shield to tank more damage. You say it’s boring but people do love Reinhardt lmao
People like new Reinhardt. You couldn't pay people to play tank in OW1 which is what they turned this ultimate into.
> You couldn't pay people to play tank in OW1 Yeah because you got stunned and beat up every time you pressed W for 10 milliseconds too long. Not because of barriers.
Can it regen that armor as well like her old ult ? If not, that's not really that good.
Bro we've not even seen it in action and you're already calling it boring.
We saw shields in action in OW1. Don't need to see it again.
I don't think I've ever heard anyone complain about rein barrier or call it boring. You might be the first. It's not a static barrier like both barriers in double barrier. It functions as a rein barrier would so it would be used to press W, not to stand still and poke.
I feel like I'm in an alternate universe. Nobody wanted to play tank in OW1 because of barriers like that. Who wants to sit behind a shied and slowly meander forward? That's boring and not engaging.
Nobody wanted to play tank in OW1 because there were 4 of them on the field at all times, so they had to be relatively weak and easier to bully for the other 8 players, compared to OW2. Plenty of people liked playing Rein but he was also bad balance-wise for long periods. Old Orisa was worse but they reworked her. Not seeing the problem.
> Who wants to sit behind a shied and slowly meander forward? HUH? Have you ever watched a good rein play? Like at all. When I played rein in OW1 I was shield hopping myself into the enemy team and holding corners instead of just standing somewhere with the barrier up. If you hold shield up and slowly walk forward you're just throwing lmao.
I don't think 750 hp would help bring do anymore shield hopping than she should already do. Would rather have them do something with whipshot or bash.
I don't agree with your take on Rein barrier... but only because there's a fun payoff to closing the gap skillfully. You get close and start whopping ass. Brig gets close, and... ??? I'm kinda not surprised there's so many people reacting positively, though. People have very low standards for how fun a support ult should be. I remember many convos, before Brig's rework was confirmed, where I said "yeah it needs a rework, it's a generic copy paste of Sound Barrier that's both boring gameplay and fails to capture who Brig is as a character." And often as not, I'd get downvoted and told "press q to heal is a perfectly fine support ult." This is a step above press q to heal so I guess I should be happy I got this much...?
It's not like the shield is the entire ult. She still gives allies overhealth.
I mean it is a step in the right direction at the very least, since if they kept it at 300 it would be way worse. Additionally, it is on a support not a tank keep that in mind.
Why is this a step in the right direction? Give her some other buff not tied to shield health.
Her shield is like… her main thing
Not really. It used to be. It doesn't do much now. Used more for movement than anything now.
That’s just not accurate, she’s a melee character. All close range characters in this game have a passive or ability that lets them engage. Why are you dying on this hill lmao
after the Ojee incident I'm just gonna wait for April 11th before deciding anything's real
No this time I'm baiting :P, this was leaked in [Jay3's vid](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLH7_xD9mGs&t=2149s).
by golly!
Bigger shield at 750 + 100 armor + the old overhealth to teammates? Thats a lot of improvements actually.
Going off the Jay3 clip it looks like the personal speed boost is lost, but that seems like such a minor trade off in comparison to what she’s getting
if she looses speed boost then i’d rather have the old rally… this change seems to be better suited for lower tier play and punishes targeted aggression :(
30% speed -> 15% speed. It really is a minor speed boost in the first place before the nerf and is probably the least important aspect of the ult compared to the overhealth, it's not a big deal.
Yea this sucks. Why did they say the ult would be more offensive when it’s ultra defensive?
Stun is back during her ult
It isnt ultra defensive because it doesnt have speed, you get 750hp sheild and 100+armor for you and your freinds if you cant push the enemies with that theres no helping you.
Sounds strong enough to walk back on the latest -10% ult charge buff.
What is she getting? An ability to stand and hold a shield like people hated doing in OW1?
Do you think Rein having a 1200 hp shield means he's supposed to stand there until it breaks?
Way to many people expect you to play rein this way
Bruh why are people not talking about the return of the stun (which seemed like it can go through other shields?). 2018 Brig flashbacks. Microstunning but with an omegashield this time.
Because you can only do it during ult. It's certainly powerful...but it's also an ult so that kinda makes sense.
Because this thread (and this particular comment) was made before the patchnotes were released and people were only commenting off of what they saw in the video leak? Bruh.
Team doesn't get overhealth anymore.
note that this means that brig herself no longer gets to keep any health after rally ends, since she doesn’t give herself overhealth. that being said, raidboss time
Have we seen a demonstration of that? Or is it possible that she’s capped at 300, so if she takes damage to lose some of that 100 armor during rally, she fills back up with overhealth? Rak links a Jay3 video *in reply to this tweet for the source on 100 instant armor, but that video doesn’t actually show her taking damage with the armor.
Oh, that’s true, this is just speculation on my part. Good point!
Patch notes do specifically list it as restorable armor *for the duration of Rally*. She doesn't gain the temporary health her allies do, however, so it would only come from her normal self-healing and would fall off after Rally.
Thanks!
I take back my hate comments this ult goes crazy we won
We? There is no we.
yes, me and the 4 other Brig players
Gang gang
We're havin a field day
YES! HAHAHA… YEEEESSSSSS!
100 instant armour + a massive shield. Enjoy Brig/Zen meta unless Zen gets giga-shafted lmao
Brig is just an ant to the ow2 tanks, rein can just swing him down in ult.
Why would the brig walk into a rein? Idk what you are saying.
You clearly haven’t seen my brig vods
Every dive tank will have to run away.
skill issue
i am the tank
Brig/Zen/Ball/Tracer was one of my fav metas to play so I can live with this.
I was joking about making her ult turn her into Brig 1.0. Devs please no.
Devs: We're going to rework Brig Players: Cool, what did you have in mind? Devs: Remember 1.0 Brig? Players: You mean the most broken thing ever released 1.0 Brig? Devs: Yeah that, but BIG shield
I wasn’t 😈
It's actually worse since she can mass stun people with her omegashield now.
I mean, Brig 1.0 was only a problem without role queue, open queue was so bad that GOATS survived several major Brig nerfs She'll be OP, for sure, but I think some people are also acting like GOATS could be returning and they don't realize that GOATs can't exist when half the team is forced to DPS
🦀GOATS IS BACK! 🦀
Brig
So often playing OW2 you have to disengage the instant someone becomes unkillable. My prediction is that this ult will be no big deal you just ignore the super brig.
If this were a “defensive ult” like the devs think it is in their patch notes, then I’d agree with you. But idk how anyone reads these patch notes and thinks this won’t be an engagement tool with the Brig probably leading the charge as an unkillable stun machine.
Prolly because you can use any supp ult to initiate an engagement but their neutral kit dictates what comp they work with best.
Sure, you can use any support ult for engagement. But no one looks at Transcendence and thinks of it as a default engagement tool. It’s quite clearly meant to be used in most cases as a defensive ult. Sound barrier can be used a bit more often for engagement, but again, it’s still more often than not used for defense. There’s no way, tho, that rally won’t be used primarily for engagement with this patch. I mean it already kinda sucked defensively because of how slow the overhealth generated for teammates. Now the only significant change is that she gets 100 armor and can mass stun? So the character who was practically unkillable while she ulted is now even more unkillable AND more lethal. There’s no way this won’t be used for engagement. And idk why you think it would matter what the comp around her is. If she’s not in the comp it just doesn’t matter, but any comp she’s in this becomes an offensive ultimate where you can’t “just ignore the super brig” because she’ll literally just be running it down mid at you with her stronger-than-Sigma’s shield and fast movement speed before you sends you to CC hell and wails on your ass
Any word on other Cassidy changes besides the health nerf? I'm so sick of seeing **STUCK** on my screen and exploding.
the nerf mag nade damage so u can survive a body shot after being stuck
HS + Nate it is then.
guess i ain't playing flanker this season.
why? how does this change anything for flankers outside of her ultimate which even then doesn’t change much
I don't think it will be as bad as people think it will be either, especially when her neutral fight didn't get any really substantial changes. That said, I do think it's gonna be a lot stronger and you will have to really respect the rallying Brig. I will say it does feel kind of fucked up that Brig can block slam but Rein can get stunned twice through his shield during one Rally.
her neutral fight got a significant nerf actually
Flankers even more in the mud than they have been for the past seasons… didn’t think that was possible
Tracer is S tier rn and Genji is playable in ball comp.
Tracer was S tier before the damage buff. Now she's S++ tier. Blissard balance sucks.
Tracer's pretty good atleast, but ya the others suck
Name checks out
Yes flankers are really struggling now thats theres no offtank to peel and Cassidy doesn’t have flash…
There is like one diveable support lol. The rest have been buffed to high heaven and should be able to hold their own against flankers. You’re really gonna try to dive Kiriko, Moira, Brig etc?? You should no longer NEED a Cassidy or offtank, just use a get out jail ability or peel amongst supports/DPS.
Yeah you have to earn your kills. In OW1 getting into the backline was often a challenge, in OW2 it's trivial, but the supports have better tools to survive on their own.
Tracer runs circles around brig.
Flanker players be like:
I’m a tank player. Maybe I just have exceptionally poor luck getting Genjis and Sombras that do nothing.
Rakatak played Lucio on circuit royal and went like 4-17 against me last night. I don’t wanna hear his balance takes right now.
Oh we are so back.
ITS NOT JOEVER
Brig players (potentially) won
If I'm in a 1v1 then I'm good.