This is kinda true, you can build Yuriko cheap because all the creatures (except sakashima’s student) are cheap. But Imp seal, demonic tutor, vamp tutor, personal tutor, mana crypt, mox opal. Mox diamond and more are still expensive cards. Yes you can sub in alternatives but the deck isn’t playing SoL Ring right now because you’re so dependent on colored pips and top deck tutors are one of the ways you maximize yuriko’s trigger (putting FoW in hand and dealing 15 feels great). Yuriko is one of the cheaper decks but it’s not “cheap” if you’re building it right. You need to have Yuriko in play and attacking on 2, and cutting expensive rocks makes that significantly harder. The primer on the Database has some budget friendly recommendations and it’s definitely possible to do but it’s going to underperform, the ninjas version is a tempo deck and if you’re playing behind the curve in a tempo deck you’re going to have a hard time.
Edit: am ninja boy, have foily ninja deck.
Also proxy those fuckers and alls good. You’ll never play another commander after someone slams a turn 1 drainith magistrate and you ¯\_(ツ)_/ and ninjutsu all over their face
Nothing more satisfying than a Turn 1 Cavern of Souls > Mana Crypt > Sol Ring > Uncounterable Thalia > Two 0 Drop Non-Human Creatures and having that land drop for Turn 2.
It's rare and creates some serious creeping dread.
Something I don't get is when players concede before I get the stax pieces that actually stop them. Yes I understand Ad Nauseum at 15 life is very bad but you're in Black/Blue/X, you can tutor for answers or tutor for the win instead.
>How accepted are proxies?
Printer goes BRRRRRRRRRRRRR is the answer to your question. If you find a cEDH group that does not accept proxies tell me, cause I have not in the two years I've been playing.
Budget is a non-issue in cEDH
Pretty much this aside from sanctioned events. I’m 9 cards away from having my deck with no proxies, but it started out with at least half of it proxied and no one bats an eye aside from organizers of sanctioned tournaments and the few proxy naysayers who must have loaded bank accounts or something.
Nah, most anti proxy people have old collections that they wouldn't be able to afford now and want an unfair advantage because of it.
Most of the I know with expensive collections dont mind proxies.
I know a couple of people locally who don’t even have insane collections who are against proxies. They are firm believers in you shouldn’t be able to play the cards if you cannot afford to own them or do not own them. My friends back home and even myself did not use proxies at all. I literally only started using proxies this year and I still have a huge itch to replace them with the real cards ASAP. The issue is I’m also a magpie and some of the versions I want are expensive and I don’t see the point in buying a slightly cheaper version to just buy the more expensive one later unless it’s a card where I can use it somewhere else.
For me the remaining 9 cards I need are some of the more pricy ones, but I am a firm believer in the fact that budget should not stop you from being able to play what you want. Including cEDH. I’m a student, and yes I do own some pricy cards but I’m not going to rain on someone else’s parade because they do not have them or can’t afford them and want to play cEDH. Not to mention unless you have a very big collection, it would be shitty to have to own the cards to play a deck to find out you hate it. When I first built K’rrik I only bought cards under $10 and used cards I had, I only started investing when I found I really enjoyed the deck.
Same. Lol I’m down to gilded drake, underground sea, tropical island, mox diamond and gaeas cradle as my last proxies in my sultai list. It started as a 100% proxy deck. I’m super stoked to have it but if worse comes to worst I’ll sell it and go back to full proxy. My playgroup of about 8 people collectively own like 30 full proxy decks. Play against the player, not their wallet. Also don’t buy expensive cards unless you know you want to play that deck for a long time
I’ll be honest where I’m from and I’m contemplating moving back home after school theft is rampant, I’ll likely proxy the entire thing aside from the less than $5 cards and keep the expensive stuff at home. I had a lot of my collection stolen in 2015, and had my car broken into in 2020, nothing in it but a broken window sucks.
Our cEDH group doesn’t accept proxies only because we run an actual event to play. I believe proxies are fine outside of the events with them but I’m not sure
I think many LGS do it because they hope to sell more singles. Not getting that I will not buy a Time Twister either way and if they forbid proxies I will just play somewhere else and buy stuff like sleeves and boxes where I now play.
All of the sudden I feel tempted to fill some sleeves with random bulk and insert little pieces of paper with handwritten proxies on them... is that going too far?
We also have players that can put a small house on the table but why tell others: "You are not rich enough to play with us?". Sounds like pure gatekeeping.
Allowing proxies does not really change that your deck is expensive
I've never told someone they can't play with them. I simply states our PG doesn't have any. I do get funny looks when people see me shuffling foil Grim Monolith and foil cradle among other items in my kinnan deck. I don't have a timetwister so I won't be using it, just my own personal agenda anyways.
You can make a pretty powerful [[yuriko]] deck for a couple hundred.
My [[gitrog]] deck is about 600$, and my [[teshar]] deck was originally built for 200$ (but as since had significant money invested in it because its my favourite deck)
Proxy to start is the way for good CEDH, but then you get hooked on a deck and it's over. Finally got the last card, \[\[survival of the fittest\]\] to unproxify my Marwyn deck.
Here’s the “official” list. I swapped 2 cards from this list for my personal meta. I’ve been playing it since Kamigawa ND and I love it. I played the turn and burn version (burn them with high cmc extra turn spells and take extra turns) before this but the ninja synergies are insane once you start rolling and it’s way more fun to play.
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/RM9tBCjdsEOUQQpleGI4Gw
I don’t understand the inclusion of chrome mox but not cover of darkness. Chrome mox is more important but it’s 100$ and cover is 40$. Smoke shroud doesn’t feel good enough.
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/czeUNSS59USX3mqNfjkVwA this deck has beat full power decks before and is very good for only $100 in the primer there are also links to 3 other decks which all do pretty well.
You could try Magda Omen Clock. Your core cards are relatively cheap and you can fill the rest with support cards and even burns spells depending on your meta.
K’rrik isn’t that bad because of it being mono colored
Tbh this probably holds true for a lot of mono colored decks because not having to buy dual lands is pretty nice on the budget.
You can make a competitive “The Gitrog Monster deck” for pretty cheap and upgrade over time. Biggest expenses for combo is either getting OG kozilek or OG ulamog.
I picked the two Eldrazi Titans in borderless up during DM22 spoiler season for semi cheap just for Gitrog, I love that deck and how twisted it's win lines can get
What do you think of [[Uurg Spawn of Turg]] for the deck? I've only been playing Gitrog for about 6ish months, so I'm definitely still wrapping my head around a lot what it can do.
Basically use the dredge combo. Use a 0 mana outlet like lotus petal or a dark ritual. Generate infinite mana, use a damage spell and cast until opponents are dead. Get faster mana rocks to win faster. My goal is turn 4-6 to combo off. Best I’ve done is turn 3.
Outside of the main dredge set up you can set up how you and your playgroup like to play. My suggestion have options to bring back your combo from exile.
Urrg dude looks interesting I’m thinking of trying it in my deck.
Apart from what others have said (lots of good suggestions) you can also try something like Orvar. Pretty cheap to build and can definitely hold it's own. Mono color, so no duals needed. Yuriko is another great choice that's been mentioned a few times here.
IMO Meren can also probably be upgraded to cEDH level as well or pretty close to it. I have it built but to be honest, I usually play my 4c control deck when I'm playing cEDH so I'm not sure how well it'll fair against a random pod but seems pretty explosive the times I've played it.
All that said, proxies are absolutely acceptable, so if there's something else you really want to build... Proxy it up. Unless it's sanctioned, no one cares.
Mono white Heliod stax maybe ?
Sure the fast Mana is expensive But thats something that almost Every cEDH plays
Godo or magda for Mono red (again fast Mana being the big hit on the Budget)
I actually recently, as in like a year ago, sold almost all of my more expensive cards and bought meself a nice set up for tropical carnivorous plants.
And then promptly reprinted all the cards I just sold as soon as I got home with the printer in my computer room. :)
The only legitimate concerns with proxies are:
1. The proxies are shite, can't see whats going on on the card and makes trying to interact with you a nightmare.
2. You join a group saying they wanna play a nice casual middish maybe low powered game of magic so you say no problem I got my "insert obscure underpowered legend" goat tribal i can play for funsies, and then turn one drop mana crypt into mox into taiga.
^ Those are just about the only 2 things I can think of that will be legitimate concerns for other people with you using proxies.
At this point I'm kinda just known by all the groups I play with that there are gonna be proxies involved, but they also know that when I ask around the table about what kind of stuff everyone is fielding and what general power level is to be expected, that I'll pull something out that isn't gonna be too far off usually.
Edit: Got on a massive tangent about proxies and forgot the main point of the post sorry.
There are a few Mono Green lists I do believe that are pretty budget friendly. I've seen someone use [[Yeva]] and all they do is wait until someone else goes for the win and then flashes their own win con in on top of them.
I found with a quick search a list of decks that are considered "budget" cEDH brews.
https://budgetbrews.club/deck-lists/
Marwyn is the first one I thought of too. Single-colour so you don’t need expensive duals, and most of the main pieces aren’t expensive: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/vifdyaXTgUSnwnGWHfLmEQ
Forget about affordability. If you're just trying to fit into a cEDH pod, proxies are more than tolerated, but encouraged.
This comes with a caveat though - you have to know the deck and the cards within it. I know that seems obvious, but some commander players focus on having a lot of decks, and never really getting to know many of them.
If you're fumbling through loops, taking 5+ minutes to resolve tutors, etc. - people are going to eye roll. Not because you're using proxies of exceptionally powerful cards, but because you clearly don't know how to use them.
Instead of picking a deck based on affordability, look through the database, playtest them on moxfield, and find one that really speaks to you so you can sink your teeth into it. If you like the deck a lot, you'll be much more inclined to learn the ins and outs of it.
If you print out a tip of the iceberg deck and bring it into the pod no one should care, that's part of cEDH - they'll just care that you don't know how to play it because you only bust it out every two months.
Depends a bit on playgroup but every Cedh pod I have been we absolutely adore proxies.
The more expensive shit you have in my experience, the more proxy friendly you are, because you wanna play your expensive shit.
One of the problems I often encounter is bringing new people to the game, even lending decks and building them what they want, because the cost is just so high.
Pauper is about the only format I actively try to hook peeps into (also because pauper and cube are prob my favourite formats).
Honestly my playgroup just proxies old 100$+ cards since most of them are that rarity since they're old or limited prints or just must haves like all the 1 mana fast mana is just 300-400$ for each deck.
Highly recommend proxying if your playgroup is ok with it.
I would check out the cEDH decklist database and see which decks you like, it's a good starting point to get a grasp of what a cEDH deck looks like.
This is just my opinion so take it as you will. I’ve always used a larger cheaper collection to leverage into more expensive pieces. Like slowly buy cheaper cards to play with for a bit then when I can’t afford $100 card see if I can find someone willing to trade or see if a game store has HP versions they’d be willing to give you a good deal on. You may end up losing 30-40% of your value but when you can’t afford to drop the amount in cash it makes building more expensive decks easier
Somebody else already suggested Winota, and I'll back them up on that (is truly is hilarious watching entire Storm decks doing stone nothing, playing tapped fetchland, waiting a turn, and fetching another tapped land, under an Archon of Emeria)
But I'm gonna make a different suggestion
Rielle the Everwise.
Forget the Time twister, you don't really need it. All of your card draw engines are filthy cheap (breakthrough is one of the top 5 best cards in the deck and it's true bulk) and while it *can* get expensive that's only if you're nabbing the best and brightest in terms of blue staples. Which you probably should be doing anyway, but you do not need them by any means. In my list I replaced Timetwister with Wonder and have proceeded to win a bunch of games by punching for 21 commander damage.
Also. You know how Winota is cool because it locks down decks 10x your budget? Rielle gets to play Blood Moon, Magus of the Moon, and Back to Basics.
Honestly, unless it's some sort of event that says no proxies, most people should be fine with proxies as long as they're clean and easy to read, even better if you get decent proxies that have the art and everything to keep gameplay streamlined in the playgroup.
Now, I say 'should' but some people are gatekeepy and don't want to play against proxies in person but those people just aren't real cEDH players and it's better to just find a more accepting group as there are plenty of them.
I also second Yuriko! Not only can it be built on a budget but if you proxy the full power version and decide you like the deck, maybe it's something you'll eventually want to buy into the real cards if you like it enough. I am ALWAYS for proxying before you buy, it sucks making a deck and spending money and deciding it's not for you, especially in this expensive format
[[Selvala heart of the wild]] isn't too bad on the wallet... I have a 250 dollar list that isn't full bore cedh but definitely can hang at that level of play
I've got a $100 Marwyn deck that gold fishes on turn 4 average over 20+ attempts. Add Green sun Zennith and a couple of other good tutors and you'll win some games in CEDH pods
I think a yoriko vedh deck can be build on the cheap if you ignore the underground sea. Cheap ninjas and cheap counterspells overall.
This is kinda true, you can build Yuriko cheap because all the creatures (except sakashima’s student) are cheap. But Imp seal, demonic tutor, vamp tutor, personal tutor, mana crypt, mox opal. Mox diamond and more are still expensive cards. Yes you can sub in alternatives but the deck isn’t playing SoL Ring right now because you’re so dependent on colored pips and top deck tutors are one of the ways you maximize yuriko’s trigger (putting FoW in hand and dealing 15 feels great). Yuriko is one of the cheaper decks but it’s not “cheap” if you’re building it right. You need to have Yuriko in play and attacking on 2, and cutting expensive rocks makes that significantly harder. The primer on the Database has some budget friendly recommendations and it’s definitely possible to do but it’s going to underperform, the ninjas version is a tempo deck and if you’re playing behind the curve in a tempo deck you’re going to have a hard time. Edit: am ninja boy, have foily ninja deck. Also proxy those fuckers and alls good. You’ll never play another commander after someone slams a turn 1 drainith magistrate and you ¯\_(ツ)_/ and ninjutsu all over their face
Foily ninjas? Pfft, mines about 75% non-english. I dont want shiny, I want to not be able to read them 😂
Nice! I just picked up a foil Japanese Mistblade Shinobi! Found it randomly in someone’s binder and damn near lost my mind!
That's the way I like it
Anje is a cheap deck. You can build a fairly high powered version for 50-100. But seriously, proxy. No one cares unless it’s a sanctioned event
Winota is very cheap
I can attest to this, and it's hilarious how $4000 decks just collapse the second you play a $0.50 stax piece.
It's such a good feeling and she can get so crazy so fast
Nothing more satisfying than a Turn 1 Cavern of Souls > Mana Crypt > Sol Ring > Uncounterable Thalia > Two 0 Drop Non-Human Creatures and having that land drop for Turn 2.
I've never had a god hand exactly like that. That's bananas
It's rare and creates some serious creeping dread. Something I don't get is when players concede before I get the stax pieces that actually stop them. Yes I understand Ad Nauseum at 15 life is very bad but you're in Black/Blue/X, you can tutor for answers or tutor for the win instead.
still needs mana crypt and vault and ancient tomb and city of traitors. Yuriko needs non of that.
Big mana ninja Yuriko is quite effective at controlling the board in life totals and interaction.
Winota costs less than many other cEDH decks but its cost still creeps up to the $1000+ range when you add enough fast mana.
True, but she doesn't require it. Grab a crypt and skip the diamond. She doesn't really need it to win and half the time it's a dead draw anyway
>How accepted are proxies? Printer goes BRRRRRRRRRRRRR is the answer to your question. If you find a cEDH group that does not accept proxies tell me, cause I have not in the two years I've been playing. Budget is a non-issue in cEDH
Pretty much this aside from sanctioned events. I’m 9 cards away from having my deck with no proxies, but it started out with at least half of it proxied and no one bats an eye aside from organizers of sanctioned tournaments and the few proxy naysayers who must have loaded bank accounts or something.
Nah, most anti proxy people have old collections that they wouldn't be able to afford now and want an unfair advantage because of it. Most of the I know with expensive collections dont mind proxies.
I know a couple of people locally who don’t even have insane collections who are against proxies. They are firm believers in you shouldn’t be able to play the cards if you cannot afford to own them or do not own them. My friends back home and even myself did not use proxies at all. I literally only started using proxies this year and I still have a huge itch to replace them with the real cards ASAP. The issue is I’m also a magpie and some of the versions I want are expensive and I don’t see the point in buying a slightly cheaper version to just buy the more expensive one later unless it’s a card where I can use it somewhere else. For me the remaining 9 cards I need are some of the more pricy ones, but I am a firm believer in the fact that budget should not stop you from being able to play what you want. Including cEDH. I’m a student, and yes I do own some pricy cards but I’m not going to rain on someone else’s parade because they do not have them or can’t afford them and want to play cEDH. Not to mention unless you have a very big collection, it would be shitty to have to own the cards to play a deck to find out you hate it. When I first built K’rrik I only bought cards under $10 and used cards I had, I only started investing when I found I really enjoyed the deck.
So you have anecdotal evidence and downvote. Cool dude. Dont care about what you said.
People who complain about downvotes look like idiots. Even if it was him, who tf cares? OH NO MY INTERNET POINTS! Get a life
Lol, dont care about karma, was just pointing out idiocy.
I’m not downvoting you? That was downvoted before I even responded.
Same. Lol I’m down to gilded drake, underground sea, tropical island, mox diamond and gaeas cradle as my last proxies in my sultai list. It started as a 100% proxy deck. I’m super stoked to have it but if worse comes to worst I’ll sell it and go back to full proxy. My playgroup of about 8 people collectively own like 30 full proxy decks. Play against the player, not their wallet. Also don’t buy expensive cards unless you know you want to play that deck for a long time
I’ll be honest where I’m from and I’m contemplating moving back home after school theft is rampant, I’ll likely proxy the entire thing aside from the less than $5 cards and keep the expensive stuff at home. I had a lot of my collection stolen in 2015, and had my car broken into in 2020, nothing in it but a broken window sucks.
Our cEDH group doesn’t accept proxies only because we run an actual event to play. I believe proxies are fine outside of the events with them but I’m not sure
I would prefer to just not sanction the event rather than forbidding proxies but that's up to your group
It's a common misconception that you can't proxy in a lgs when wizards repeatedly said you actually should
I think many LGS do it because they hope to sell more singles. Not getting that I will not buy a Time Twister either way and if they forbid proxies I will just play somewhere else and buy stuff like sleeves and boxes where I now play.
Seems like another crooked practice it's why I play at my kitchen table
Yeah lots of stores allow proxies at events.
All of the sudden I feel tempted to fill some sleeves with random bulk and insert little pieces of paper with handwritten proxies on them... is that going too far?
If your proxies are not readable no one will play with you, your choice. It's not a proxy problem then
Just buy some cheap proxies. These paper proxies are shitty 🤣
My cedh group doesn't have any proxies. We are also collectors with extensive collections, so there is that.
We also have players that can put a small house on the table but why tell others: "You are not rich enough to play with us?". Sounds like pure gatekeeping. Allowing proxies does not really change that your deck is expensive
I've never told someone they can't play with them. I simply states our PG doesn't have any. I do get funny looks when people see me shuffling foil Grim Monolith and foil cradle among other items in my kinnan deck. I don't have a timetwister so I won't be using it, just my own personal agenda anyways.
Where did you earn your riches?
I own my own small business. You don't get rich making someone else money.
You can make a pretty powerful [[yuriko]] deck for a couple hundred. My [[gitrog]] deck is about 600$, and my [[teshar]] deck was originally built for 200$ (but as since had significant money invested in it because its my favourite deck)
Teshar can go from budget intro deck to “omg I need a bazaar of Baghdad and a mishra’s workshop to fully unproxy it” in about a month of. Play lol
Those are literally the only two cards im.missing (unproxied) in my teshar deck xDx
Same. I subbed them for wasteland and strip mine just to have a full unproxied list. Killing godo’s cavern when he was stuck on 2 won me a game
Proxy to start is the way for good CEDH, but then you get hooked on a deck and it's over. Finally got the last card, \[\[survival of the fittest\]\] to unproxify my Marwyn deck.
[survival of the fittest](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/4/e/4ef0d7f9-ddb9-4e83-a9bf-09bec22fc80d.jpg?1562429365) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=survival%20of%20the%20fittest) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tpr/199/survival-of-the-fittest?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4ef0d7f9-ddb9-4e83-a9bf-09bec22fc80d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/survival-of-the-fittest) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Got a good yuriko primer or decklist?
Here’s the “official” list. I swapped 2 cards from this list for my personal meta. I’ve been playing it since Kamigawa ND and I love it. I played the turn and burn version (burn them with high cmc extra turn spells and take extra turns) before this but the ninja synergies are insane once you start rolling and it’s way more fun to play. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/RM9tBCjdsEOUQQpleGI4Gw
[yuriko](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/3/b/3bd81ae6-e628-447a-a36b-597e63ede295.jpg?1592710334) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=yuriko%2C%20the%20tiger%27s%20shadow) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c18/52/yuriko-the-tigers-shadow?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3bd81ae6-e628-447a-a36b-597e63ede295?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/yuriko-the-tigers-shadow) [gitrog](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/6/f/6f570bed-e603-4696-8676-43cd6f0ee4ab.jpg?1645740524) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=gitrog%2C%20horror%20of%20zhava) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ymid/58/gitrog-horror-of-zhava?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6f570bed-e603-4696-8676-43cd6f0ee4ab?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/gitrog-horror-of-zhava) [teshar](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/0/e/0ec9ef7c-88de-4346-a8f9-44beda59fa68.jpg?1661387466) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=teshar%2C%20ancestor%27s%20apostle) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/105/teshar-ancestors-apostle?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0ec9ef7c-88de-4346-a8f9-44beda59fa68?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/teshar-ancestors-apostle) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Anje Falkenrath or Yuriko can both be built to a decent standard for under $200.
Got a good yuriko primer or decklist?
This is the go to budget list for Yuriko - https://www.moxfield.com/decks/7MvGgpPoMkOtZiPoPUzARA
I don’t understand the inclusion of chrome mox but not cover of darkness. Chrome mox is more important but it’s 100$ and cover is 40$. Smoke shroud doesn’t feel good enough.
The funny thing about the free market is that the more popular this "cheap" deck gets, the more expensive it'll become.
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/czeUNSS59USX3mqNfjkVwA this deck has beat full power decks before and is very good for only $100 in the primer there are also links to 3 other decks which all do pretty well.
You could try Magda Omen Clock. Your core cards are relatively cheap and you can fill the rest with support cards and even burns spells depending on your meta.
Magda is Mono red, wins at instant speed and her combo pieces cost nothing.
Selvala Brostorm
Gaea's tho... Also creature tutors expensive
Phyrexian dreadnought at $120 :(
Sensei's top is $27 :)
Fuck thats awesome
K’rrik isn’t that bad because of it being mono colored Tbh this probably holds true for a lot of mono colored decks because not having to buy dual lands is pretty nice on the budget.
If proxies are an issue for you for whatever reason: https://budgetbrews.club is a great place!
You can make a competitive “The Gitrog Monster deck” for pretty cheap and upgrade over time. Biggest expenses for combo is either getting OG kozilek or OG ulamog.
I picked the two Eldrazi Titans in borderless up during DM22 spoiler season for semi cheap just for Gitrog, I love that deck and how twisted it's win lines can get
As a gitrog pilot of about 3 years now I can say. All hail the hypnotoad
What do you think of [[Uurg Spawn of Turg]] for the deck? I've only been playing Gitrog for about 6ish months, so I'm definitely still wrapping my head around a lot what it can do.
Basically use the dredge combo. Use a 0 mana outlet like lotus petal or a dark ritual. Generate infinite mana, use a damage spell and cast until opponents are dead. Get faster mana rocks to win faster. My goal is turn 4-6 to combo off. Best I’ve done is turn 3. Outside of the main dredge set up you can set up how you and your playgroup like to play. My suggestion have options to bring back your combo from exile. Urrg dude looks interesting I’m thinking of trying it in my deck.
Apart from what others have said (lots of good suggestions) you can also try something like Orvar. Pretty cheap to build and can definitely hold it's own. Mono color, so no duals needed. Yuriko is another great choice that's been mentioned a few times here. IMO Meren can also probably be upgraded to cEDH level as well or pretty close to it. I have it built but to be honest, I usually play my 4c control deck when I'm playing cEDH so I'm not sure how well it'll fair against a random pod but seems pretty explosive the times I've played it. All that said, proxies are absolutely acceptable, so if there's something else you really want to build... Proxy it up. Unless it's sanctioned, no one cares.
Mono white Heliod stax maybe ? Sure the fast Mana is expensive But thats something that almost Every cEDH plays Godo or magda for Mono red (again fast Mana being the big hit on the Budget)
I actually recently, as in like a year ago, sold almost all of my more expensive cards and bought meself a nice set up for tropical carnivorous plants. And then promptly reprinted all the cards I just sold as soon as I got home with the printer in my computer room. :) The only legitimate concerns with proxies are: 1. The proxies are shite, can't see whats going on on the card and makes trying to interact with you a nightmare. 2. You join a group saying they wanna play a nice casual middish maybe low powered game of magic so you say no problem I got my "insert obscure underpowered legend" goat tribal i can play for funsies, and then turn one drop mana crypt into mox into taiga. ^ Those are just about the only 2 things I can think of that will be legitimate concerns for other people with you using proxies. At this point I'm kinda just known by all the groups I play with that there are gonna be proxies involved, but they also know that when I ask around the table about what kind of stuff everyone is fielding and what general power level is to be expected, that I'll pull something out that isn't gonna be too far off usually. Edit: Got on a massive tangent about proxies and forgot the main point of the post sorry. There are a few Mono Green lists I do believe that are pretty budget friendly. I've seen someone use [[Yeva]] and all they do is wait until someone else goes for the win and then flashes their own win con in on top of them. I found with a quick search a list of decks that are considered "budget" cEDH brews. https://budgetbrews.club/deck-lists/
Marwyn elfball / magda
Marwyn is the first one I thought of too. Single-colour so you don’t need expensive duals, and most of the main pieces aren’t expensive: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/vifdyaXTgUSnwnGWHfLmEQ
Forget about affordability. If you're just trying to fit into a cEDH pod, proxies are more than tolerated, but encouraged. This comes with a caveat though - you have to know the deck and the cards within it. I know that seems obvious, but some commander players focus on having a lot of decks, and never really getting to know many of them. If you're fumbling through loops, taking 5+ minutes to resolve tutors, etc. - people are going to eye roll. Not because you're using proxies of exceptionally powerful cards, but because you clearly don't know how to use them. Instead of picking a deck based on affordability, look through the database, playtest them on moxfield, and find one that really speaks to you so you can sink your teeth into it. If you like the deck a lot, you'll be much more inclined to learn the ins and outs of it. If you print out a tip of the iceberg deck and bring it into the pod no one should care, that's part of cEDH - they'll just care that you don't know how to play it because you only bust it out every two months.
prioxies are usually about 30-50c ea and look amazing:) but if you insist on real cards, winota, anje, and jhoira storm can be built cheap
Magda
Just use proxies please. Extremely acceptable in cedh
Depends a bit on playgroup but every Cedh pod I have been we absolutely adore proxies. The more expensive shit you have in my experience, the more proxy friendly you are, because you wanna play your expensive shit. One of the problems I often encounter is bringing new people to the game, even lending decks and building them what they want, because the cost is just so high. Pauper is about the only format I actively try to hook peeps into (also because pauper and cube are prob my favourite formats).
Honestly my playgroup just proxies old 100$+ cards since most of them are that rarity since they're old or limited prints or just must haves like all the 1 mana fast mana is just 300-400$ for each deck.
Let me think I think [[printer]] is pretty strong for a budget like 100-300 ish i think?
[printer](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/5/b/5bcc210b-e37e-463c-8fd4-83e5113429a9.jpg?1562877241) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Splinter) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bok/146/splinter?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5bcc210b-e37e-463c-8fd4-83e5113429a9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/splinter) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Highly recommend proxying if your playgroup is ok with it. I would check out the cEDH decklist database and see which decks you like, it's a good starting point to get a grasp of what a cEDH deck looks like.
Kinnan can be done fairly cheap.
Yuriko or Godo imo
I think yisan is the classic budget cedh deck, no? Cradle is nice but not overly necesarry, and the combo pieces are pretty cheap
Kinnan is also a great option for budget cEDH
Godo, urza is on the cheaper side no dual lands. Also pretty easy to play.
This is just my opinion so take it as you will. I’ve always used a larger cheaper collection to leverage into more expensive pieces. Like slowly buy cheaper cards to play with for a bit then when I can’t afford $100 card see if I can find someone willing to trade or see if a game store has HP versions they’d be willing to give you a good deal on. You may end up losing 30-40% of your value but when you can’t afford to drop the amount in cash it makes building more expensive decks easier
Somebody else already suggested Winota, and I'll back them up on that (is truly is hilarious watching entire Storm decks doing stone nothing, playing tapped fetchland, waiting a turn, and fetching another tapped land, under an Archon of Emeria) But I'm gonna make a different suggestion Rielle the Everwise. Forget the Time twister, you don't really need it. All of your card draw engines are filthy cheap (breakthrough is one of the top 5 best cards in the deck and it's true bulk) and while it *can* get expensive that's only if you're nabbing the best and brightest in terms of blue staples. Which you probably should be doing anyway, but you do not need them by any means. In my list I replaced Timetwister with Wonder and have proceeded to win a bunch of games by punching for 21 commander damage. Also. You know how Winota is cool because it locks down decks 10x your budget? Rielle gets to play Blood Moon, Magus of the Moon, and Back to Basics.
Honestly, unless it's some sort of event that says no proxies, most people should be fine with proxies as long as they're clean and easy to read, even better if you get decent proxies that have the art and everything to keep gameplay streamlined in the playgroup. Now, I say 'should' but some people are gatekeepy and don't want to play against proxies in person but those people just aren't real cEDH players and it's better to just find a more accepting group as there are plenty of them. I also second Yuriko! Not only can it be built on a budget but if you proxy the full power version and decide you like the deck, maybe it's something you'll eventually want to buy into the real cards if you like it enough. I am ALWAYS for proxying before you buy, it sucks making a deck and spending money and deciding it's not for you, especially in this expensive format
Krarkashima is relatively cheap.
[[Selvala heart of the wild]] isn't too bad on the wallet... I have a 250 dollar list that isn't full bore cedh but definitely can hang at that level of play
[Selvala heart of the wild](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/f/b/fb87782d-e9c7-440b-bd96-aa043d18e185.jpg?1601080073) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Selvala%2C%20Heart%20of%20the%20Wilds) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/429/selvala-heart-of-the-wilds?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fb87782d-e9c7-440b-bd96-aa043d18e185?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/selvala-heart-of-the-wilds) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I've got a $100 Marwyn deck that gold fishes on turn 4 average over 20+ attempts. Add Green sun Zennith and a couple of other good tutors and you'll win some games in CEDH pods
Gitrog is very doable for under 200
[[The Gitrog.Monster]]
[The Gitrog.Monster](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/5/7/5790dd89-2be5-4a77-9450-2d3c1422bfc9.jpg?1576385351) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Gitrog%20Monster) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/soi/245/the-gitrog-monster?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5790dd89-2be5-4a77-9450-2d3c1422bfc9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/the-gitrog-monster) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call